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Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
It's interesting reading some of the reactions from the mostly male PB commentators about Aberdeen south and above all Kemi Badenoch. There is much to criticize in the Tory party but I feel that some on the left remain affronted that the Tories have another woman in charge and moreover, a black woman. I think it gets to them, as the long wait continues in the Labour party for anything remotely similar. Sure she's made errors, but she works and last night she won. Give her and the party a break!Best to keep to that line that any anti-Kemi dialogue is due to her sex and colour. It provides a fig leaf of delusion so you don't need to look at her comparative career to date and her track record as LOTO.
Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
EnquiryGPT will be in prod in 1/2 an hour.I'll take notes for all of them I guess. Standard rates, AI misses the nuance.On condition that I chair the enquiry into your enquiry into the enquiry into your enquiry into the enquiry about enquiries.Can I take the job of chairing the enquiry into your enquiry into the enquiry about enquiries.I’ve already applied for the job of chairing the enquiry into the enquiry about enquiries.Oh goodness, not another Lords enquiry *please*
David Aaronovitch
@DAaronovitch
My friend @PeterKellner1 is the only polling expert I read who got remotely close to the actual result in Makerfield. It was so far away from what the polling organisations were showing that there's clearly an inquest to be had
https://x.com/DAaronovitch/status/2067839683703243034
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- it was a waste of money but did wonders for Mal’s retirement fund
Obviously.
This will deliver generic pseudo legalese bollocks on any meta level of enquiries.
This will facilitate the leveraging of AI to increase productivity in the Enquiry Industrial complex in all metrics and KPIs.
Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
I thought that was “avocado on toast” or is that just spendthrift 20-somethings?I love tofu! But "tofu eating wokerati" has become a term of abuse on the right, I believe.What do you have against tofu ?Those who were here earlier may be interested to know that the quiche has been discovered. I am off to retrieve it...I hope it wasn't sitting out in the sun somewhere all that time... give us an update on how tasty it is!
Is quiche still a kind of marker of being a pussilaminous hand-wringing metropolitan liberal I wonder, or has that role been superceded by tofu?
Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
I am warming to Meloni.
TRUMP SPARKS DIPLOMATIC CRISIS WITH ITALY: Italy’s Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani has canceled his planned June 21–22 trip to Washington after President Trump insulted Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, claiming she “begged” for a photo with him at the G7 and that he “felt sorry for her.”
Meloni released a video firing back at Trump’s comments, calling them “completely fabricated.”
“I am frankly appalled,” she said. “I don’t know why the President of the United States behaves this way towards his allies.”
She added that Trump appears to show more accommodation toward “the enemies of the West” than America’s allies and concluded by saying: “Italy and I never beg.”
https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/2067940653401596320
TRUMP SPARKS DIPLOMATIC CRISIS WITH ITALY: Italy’s Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani has canceled his planned June 21–22 trip to Washington after President Trump insulted Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, claiming she “begged” for a photo with him at the G7 and that he “felt sorry for her.”
Meloni released a video firing back at Trump’s comments, calling them “completely fabricated.”
“I am frankly appalled,” she said. “I don’t know why the President of the United States behaves this way towards his allies.”
She added that Trump appears to show more accommodation toward “the enemies of the West” than America’s allies and concluded by saying: “Italy and I never beg.”
https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/2067940653401596320
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Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
Apparently Starmer has now warned Labour against , "Turning on One and Other,!"
Presumably he is the One and they are all the Other!
Peter.
Presumably he is the One and they are all the Other!
Peter.
Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
Squint your eyes and blur your vision and you might assume it's a before and after photo about how being PM ages you.

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Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
There's a Cornish niche, where quiche with peach is pastiche nouveau riche.Those who were here earlier may be interested to know that the quiche has been discovered. I am off to retrieve it...Be quick to require the quiche. For its niche. And call your niece for a peach with your quiche, which would be nice.
Nigelb
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Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
The other reason for not wanting to be Prime Minister is Ed Miliband grew up politically under New Labour where Gordon Brown effectively ran domestic policy from the Treasury while Tony Blair dealt with world leaders. For a politician with no real interest in foreign affairs, Chancellor and de factor home PM might well look the better job.I don't think I believe him, but in any case, not wanting the job himself doesn't preclude him from thinking that he'd be better at it or being a disruptive presence.Ed Miliband has explicitly stated that he does not want to become Prime Minister or lead the Labour Party again.I've been thinking about the new Burnham Cabinet.If Burnham is ruthless enough to be a good prime minister, he should betray Miliband and send him to the backbenches. He doesn't need to repeat Blair's mistake of having a scheming backseat driver in Number 11 who thinks he would make a better PM.
He has to find room for Rayner and Streeting (and himself).
i think Reeves, Cooper and Lammy are for the chop.
The simplest and least disruptive is;
Rayner -> Deputy PM replacing Lammy (but Burnham first see below)
Miliband -> COE replacing Reeves
Streeting -> Energy replacing Miliband
Starmer -> Foreign Sec replacing Cooper.
Everyone else stays in place pro temp.
But a first step could be Burnham -> deputy PM replacing Lammy with Starmer staying in place for a few months to provide a managed handover.
This would a Blair/Brown type of relationship with an agreed timetable to minimise disruption.
The alternative is a nasty civil war with senior ministers taking sides.
I think Burnham, being a friendly accommodating chap, will seek to persuade Starmer to take the least disruptive route, and be rewarded with the role of Foreign Secretary - which I think he enjoys most and most suits him.
Check back here later to see what actually happens.
Addressing rumors that he might harbor desires to return to the party's helm, Miliband stated:
"I had the best inoculation technique against wanting to be leader of the Labour Party, which is that I was leader of the Labour Party."
He further solidified his refusal to seek a political comeback in the top role by adding, "Definitely not, being a Donald Trump, coming back for more.
Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
It's interesting reading some of the reactions from the mostly male PB commentators about Aberdeen south and above all Kemi Badenoch. There is much to criticize in the Tory party but I feel that some on the left remain affronted that the Tories have another woman in charge and moreover, a black woman. I think it gets to them, as the long wait continues in the Labour party for anything remotely similar. Sure she's made errors, but she works and last night she won. Give her and the party a break!Utter made up right wing nonsense.
Her gender, race, colour is immaterial.
She's useless
Thats a political judgement nothing elss
Re: Starmer calls peak Reform but says I fight on, I fight to win – politicalbetting.com
Lord almighty, I kinda agree with Aaron BastaniThe £100k gets too much emphasis given how few people earn that . Student loans and Stamp Duty are the big ones. The fetishisation of buy-to-let too, and the resultant squeeze on first time buyers.
Why did the Tories die?
Partly because they spent 14 years trying to destroy anyone who, sociologically speaking, might vote for them in the future.
That’s right. They purposefully tried to stop the re-production of the middle class.
https://x.com/AaronBastani/status/2067666479319793932
You could stretch to vibes around renewables too - my generation has lived through Ukraine and Iran, and will bear the cost of climate change.
Eabhal
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