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Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
Well tipped @TheScreamingEagles - I'm not sure I agree with this bit:
"There are a few reasons why I still think Labour have a chance of winning the next general election is because of that, people will coalesce around who is best placed to defeat Reform."
Labour are in government. That's a big problem. If support could coalesce around someone else (The Greens? The Lib Dems?), then that might be more plausible.
But in Scotland and Wales, Reform will clearly have an uphill task.
"There are a few reasons why I still think Labour have a chance of winning the next general election is because of that, people will coalesce around who is best placed to defeat Reform."
Labour are in government. That's a big problem. If support could coalesce around someone else (The Greens? The Lib Dems?), then that might be more plausible.
But in Scotland and Wales, Reform will clearly have an uphill task.
tlg86
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Re: Reform voters are going to hell – politicalbetting.com
I missed the Tommy Cooper statue in the background - just like that.I seem to remember Anna Soubry had some thoughts about this …Llyr Powell has arrived and has been speaking to BBC Wales’ Teleri Glyn Jones, saying he has been subjected to "attacks" on his property and office during the campaign.Farage seems happy though.
Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
Brexit is the perfect example, of course, of why it is essential not to let right wing populists win.Seems to me there's a strong echo here of the exercise we went through which ultimately led to Brexit. No worries, chaps, we can block out all the concerns that these stupid people are expressing.Well done to Plaid.Adonis has told Guardian he thinks it shows how a group of voters will get behind whoever seems strongest/likeliest at the time to block Reform.
But 0% to 36% in one election cycle is pretty impressive too. Or should that be pretty worrying?
Good morning, everybody.
Until it was too late.
Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
I think the important thing here isReform good for democracy ? If you don't vote you get Reform.
Turnout increasing at a by-election from the previous general elections feels unprecedented.
Which says
1) Reform are attracting voters who don't usually vote (which means the vote could be very soft)
2) In some places there are a lot of people willing to come out and vote to ensure Reform don't win.
Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
I don't think that is right at all. Labour is absolutely focused on fixing the asylum system so that those without a valid claim can be deported quickly, it is focused on cutting the huge backlog it inherited in the NHS, it is focused on housebuilding to deal with the massive housing shortage it inherited... but all of these things take time and so we will only see the results in coming years. To deal with the country's problems we need competence and steady progress, not populist slogans, scaremongering and scapegoating.The next general election is going to be all about tactical voting. Britons are very good at tactical voting and centre-left Britons are especially good at it. One thing that I am a little more sure about today is that there is a majority of us who really hate Reform and its dishonest and divisive approach to politics, and I think that this majority may be more effective than people expect at locking Reform out of power.Rather a shame, though, that there's unlikely to be any interest from that present majority to address the issues that motivate others to become Reform voters.
Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
Also rather amusing that Lefties, whose politicians do little but lie (see e.g. the current government) and sow division and resentment, get annoyed when they think Reform is beating them at their own game.The next general election is going to be all about tactical voting. Britons are very good at tactical voting and centre-left Britons are especially good at it. One thing that I am a little more sure about today is that there is a majority of us who really hate Reform and its dishonest and divisive approach to politics, and I think that this majority may be more effective than people expect at locking Reform out of power.Rather a shame, though, that there's unlikely to be any interest from that present majority to address the issues that motivate others to become Reform voters.
Fishing
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Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
But as I pointed out earlier it's easy in a by-election to see who you need to vote for to defeat Reform - that's not so easy in a General Election where you won't have local polling..Well done to Plaid.Adonis has told Guardian he thinks it shows how a group of voters will get behind whoever seems strongest/likeliest at the time to block Reform.
But 0% to 36% in one election cycle is pretty impressive too. Or should that be pretty worrying?
Good morning, everybody.
eek
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Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
Would be interesting to see if Labour and Lib Dem supporters would vote Tory if the Tories are the best chance to stop Reform or is that going too far? Has there been any polling on this?Well done to Plaid.Adonis has told Guardian he thinks it shows how a group of voters will get behind whoever seems strongest/likeliest at the time to block Reform.
But 0% to 36% in one election cycle is pretty impressive too. Or should that be pretty worrying?
Good morning, everybody.
boulay
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Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
The next general election is going to be all about tactical voting. Britons are very good at tactical voting and centre-left Britons are especially good at it. One thing that I am a little more sure about today is that there is a majority of us who really hate Reform and its dishonest and divisive approach to politics, and I think that this majority may be more effective than people expect at locking Reform out of power.
Re: Plaid Cymru prove to be the big cheese in Caerphilly – politicalbetting.com
The next general election is going to be all about tactical voting. Britons are very good at tactical voting and centre-left Britons are especially good at it. One thing that I am a little more sure about today is that there is a majority of us who really hate Reform and its dishonest and divisive approach to politics, and I think that this majority may be more effective than people expect at locking Reform out of power.Rather a shame, though, that there's unlikely to be any interest from that present majority to address the issues that motivate others to become Reform voters.
AnneJGP
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