Best Of
Re: A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
Inverness - maybe walk over to the Caledonian canal lock staircase and along the canal end to the sea lock. Maybe even a cruise along the canal into Loch Ness (which is some way away, but not too much). Good base also for side trips to eg Elgin, Strathpeffer, Cromarty.I'd agree with all that - but for the Penzance option: why not add on a short branch line hop (changing at St. Erth?) and finish at St. Ives?I went up to Scotland last week (I might have mentioned it). I hate trains but I like the idea of a posh train to somewhere nice. That leaves me the Night Riviera sleeper train to Penzance, the Caledonian Sleeper to Inverness, or the Eurostar to Lille. Not big places, smallish nice towns with nice places where I can sit down and read books, reasonably luxurious and historic with nice buildings. Anybody been to Penzance, Inverness or Lille?I’ve been to all of them. They’re all great in different ways, and with flaws
Penzance: real end of the line feeling. You are definitely at a terminus and it’s at the very end of Cornwall. The station is by the sea. You exit to ozone and gulls and fish and chips and saltiness. And you are surrounded by Wild West Cornwall
But Penzance is a bit run down. Druggies and shuttered shops
Inverness is quite a handsome town. Granite everywhere. It’s not as dramatic as Penzance but you’re definitely on the door of the highlands and the wilds. The train over to Kyle is spectacular
Can also be rundown. And cold
Lille is probably the most architecturally appealing in itself. Nice French Flemish feel. But much more boring in location and nothing to see - unless you like world war 1 battlefields, in which case it’s fab
On Lille - my daughter went on a school trip to Lille last winter to visit the Christmas markets - less famous than the German counterparts but just as worthwhile. Perhaps you could do that?
All that said, if it were me I'd definitely go for Inverness. Regardless of the city at the end, that's the best train ride.

2
Re: Life after Angela – politicalbetting.com
I'm not sure I've ever seen @Leon , @DavidL and I all on the same page, but this is spot on.Again, mind boggling“I think the first signs of Number Ten softening its support will come from “number 10 spokesperson or source” look there for possible backing away from Mandleson.”Spot on. The resignation of Mandelson a mere formality now - what the media and opposition leaders are chasing is the resignation of Starmer over this. He was very careful not to tell porkies at PMQ, but at expense of making it crystal clear he likely knew all this even more besides when making the appointment.Not quite sure this is right. How about this progression; could it be where the media/opposition go?Sure Mandelson will probably have to go. It makes almost no long term difference to Starmer. His fate rests on ending asylum hotels, a big reduction in the boats combined with the fluctuations of the global economy, not this.It's not Starmer resignation but Mandelson that is on the line but Starmer prevarication is not helping him at all(((Dan Hodges)))Hodges is wrong yet again, of course it is possible. How about "Starmer will not just have to resign, but will be found guilty of treason, hung, drawn and quartered, sent to hell for eternity, and be forced to become a Man United fan". I suspect that overstates it quite substantially.
@DPJHodges
·
33m
It’s not possible to overstate how much trouble Starmer’s now in on Mandelson, having backed him in the House.
1) Mandelson had a significant relationship with Epstein both before and after he went to prison for sex offences.including post prison business consultancy. (This looks certain)
2) M must have been fully vetted before the ambassadorial appointment. (This must be true)
3) Starmer must have been advised of the relevant facts. (This must be true, especially as M has form from the past, but no doubt attempts can be made to fudge it)
4) If 1-3 above are true and established, then M's appointment is a potential resignation issue for Starmer.
What do others think?
He hid behind “due process was followed” questions can be asked about that due process. Indeed LOTO asked for it to be published in full ASAP.
He hid behind “elements of due process that are strictly private” which he won’t get away with for it inevitably means he can’t close off “what did you know and when.”
Can Starmer latch on to something “new” to everyone for the sacking that saves him?
Is there anything new, something substantial not known during due process Starmer didn’t know? Otherwise Starmer is finished now by this “fluffy bed robe cover up”
I think the first signs of Number Ten softening its support will come from “number 10 spokesperson or source” look there for possible backing away from Mandleson.
At the moment they are not at all softening their stance, in fact number ten choosing to dig themselves deeper into the mire.
From live Grunidan Blog
No 10 says Mandelson subject to 'extensive' vetting before appointment as ambassador to US
At the post-PMQs lobby briefing the PM’s spokesperson would not discuss in detail what Keir Starmer knew about Peter Mandelson’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein before he appointed him ambassador to Washington. But he stressed that the pre-appointment vetting was “extensive” – implying No 10 did know quite a lot about this.
The spokesperson said:
We have been very clear that the victims of Jeffrey Epstein are at the forefront of our minds, he was a despicable criminal who committed the most heinous crimes and destroyed the lives of so many women and girls.
On the appointment process, any candidates for ambassador positions are subject to extensive vetting and background checks by the Foreign Office and Cabinet Office as a matter of course.
Asked if Starmer was surprised by the latest revelations, the spokesperson said that Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein “has been a matter of public record for some time and the ambassador himself has repeatedly addressed questions on it”.
This position cannot hold. Even if you accept Mandelson’s claim that he saw nothing and understood nothing, despite several visits to pedo island, and even if you accept that the cringey innuendo laden sexual banter in his ten page love letter to Epstein is all innocent - the fact is Mandelson stayed in Epstein’s house as Epstein’s guest when Epstein was serving time for pedophilia and trafficking
There is no plausible escape from that fact. Mandelson knew all that and still thought it was a great idea to accept hospitality from his best pal, the convicted pedophile Jeff
Mandelson must go.

1
Re: Life after Angela – politicalbetting.com
Here's Lord Frost's tweet:@TiceRichardWhy is Frosty the No Man involved?
Tomorrow at 10am I will be sharing a press conference with @DavidGHFrost and @SuellaBraverman
@KevinASchofield
Maybe Keir Starmer will finally catch a break and Suella will be defecting to Reform
Is he going as well, or are we talking internal Tory ructions?
David Frost @DavidGHFrost 2h
Looking forward also to joining @TiceRichard and @SuellaBraverman at @Prosperity_Inst tomorrow morning to help launch Suella's important paper on leaving the ECHR and its implications.
https://www.prosperity.com/media-publications/echr/
(I think these guys are another Legatum setup.)

1
Re: A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
BRACETrump's channelling Fabrizio Romano announcing a transfer deal.
https://x.com/annmarie/status/1965796550938186187
Re: A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
I don't think we can sack Farage, sadly.I see Farage is indirectly batting for Mandelson.Another reason to sack him. Today.
Re: A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
Yes, but we might try.Good luck with persuading the public on the need for politicians to be paid a lot more.Controversial take: we should pay them a lot moreSingapore approach. Paid well, but its your only job and even a hint of dodginess you are out with stronger law specifically around elected officials misconduct. None of this well i had a 3 homes, I lied about legal advice, soz, but off to the backbench plotting when to come back.
Reduce the number of MPs and Lords but give them much higher salaries. So they have less inclination to sleaze and much smarter people will try for the job
Right now we are ruled by morons as only morons fancy an underpaid career where they might get sacked any moment
For evidence, see Keir Starmer, a moron
One of the problems those of us who advocate this approach have is that the people whise job it is to convince the public of an argument are politicians. Whuch necessarily prompts a little scepticism about the altruism of the argument.

1
Re: Life after Angela – politicalbetting.com
I'm beginning to wonder if the McLibel Two should have had a different legal advisor. They might have got off altogether!Starmer won’t sack Mandelson. He’ll ask him to resign . Even if that happens this shouldn’t end the matter .That was a bizarre line. I had to play it back to make sure I’d heard it correctly.
He was made ambassador when it was known he had stayed in Epsteins apartment whilst he was in prison.
Any politician who isn’t a complete moron would have not gone anywhere near Mandelson .
And his comments about Rayner in attempting to embarrass Badenoch were a disgrace , to stab her in the back like that.
He actually did try to score a political point off the LOTO not asking the right questions about his own deputy’s wrongdoing?
Re: A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
Mandelsons defence seems to be that even though Epstein was convicted and in prison he believed that he wasn’t guilty as he was assured by him that he had done nothing wrong and he believed him and that’s why he stayed in his apartment and continued the friendship !
And the so called due process vetting didn’t raise this as a red flag ! And Starmer went along with this .
There were loads of choices for UK ambassador to the US who didn’t come with this baggage and who I expect could have been suitably sycophantic of Trump but apparently only Mandelson was capable of doing the job .
And the so called due process vetting didn’t raise this as a red flag ! And Starmer went along with this .
There were loads of choices for UK ambassador to the US who didn’t come with this baggage and who I expect could have been suitably sycophantic of Trump but apparently only Mandelson was capable of doing the job .

1
A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
67% of Britons see politicians as primarily out for themselvesOut for themselves: 67%Out for their party: 19%Out for their country: 4%yougov.co.uk/politics/art…

1
Re: A damning indictment on our politicians – politicalbetting.com
An interesting spin on Trump's disagreement with Epstein over him poaching under-age spa workers from Mar a Lago(((Dan Hodges)))If the story that Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein lasted beyond his original 2008 conviction holds up, then his position is untenable.
@DPJHodges
Inside No.10 there’s a mounting sense of crisis. And it’s centred around the following dynamic. They realise that politically they have to cut Mandelson loose. But strategically they feel they can’t, because of Trump’s proximity to the Epstein issue. It’s the perfect storm.
https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1965785548246876400
Trump himself had dropped Epstein well before that, supposedly after his behaviour towards Mar-a-Lago staff became a matter of concern.
“He hired help, and I said, ‘Don’t ever do that again.’ He stole people that work for me. I said, ‘Don’t ever do that again.’ He did it again,” Trump said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/28/trump-jeffrey-epstein-maxwell-workers.html