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Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...

Why would anyone use snail mail?

Emails are free and instantaneous.

I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.

To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.

Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city

I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.

My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.

If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?

Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.

Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it

My family have stopped sending all cards

We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages

Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments

Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail

We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications

You still can't send parcels online

Yes, you can

Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home

So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example

What a bizarre response

As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected

Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door

Are you saying they are not an online business

I really do wonder about your thought processes

So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand

By hand to your door is online.

You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.

No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email

What on earth are you rabbiting on about?

I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.

Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.

My money is on the pirate!

Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.

There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.

Spoilsport; there'll be nothing to read this afternoon

Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...

Why would anyone use snail mail?

Emails are free and instantaneous.

I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.

To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.

Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city

I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.

My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.

If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?

Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.

Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it

My family have stopped sending all cards

We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages

Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments

Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail

We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications

You still can't send parcels online

Yes, you can

Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home

So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example

What a bizarre response

As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected

Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door

Are you saying they are not an online business

I really do wonder about your thought processes

So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand

By hand to your door is online.

You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.

No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email

What on earth are you rabbiting on about?

I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.

Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.

My money is on the pirate!

Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.

There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.

So the pirate has already won?

I might have to deploy the Farage photo at this rate.

Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...

Why would anyone use snail mail?

Emails are free and instantaneous.

I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.

To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.

Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city

I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.

My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.

If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?

Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.

Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it

My family have stopped sending all cards

We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages

Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments

Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail

We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications

You still can't send parcels online

Yes, you can

Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home

So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example

What a bizarre response

As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected

Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door

Are you saying they are not an online business

I really do wonder about your thought processes

So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand

The parcels are processed online and it is an online service

Sadly you have a real problem when you lose an argument which is well known across this forum

Leave him alone.

I'm looking forward to an explanation of how Amazon can conduct its business without the internet.

Please give me one example where a parcel is ordered online from Amazon and sent to the recipient online and the parcel is then printed off by the recipient with no need for a deliverer?

In fairness to both sides there's a very considerable amount of hair-splitting here. Big G is right when he says that all the COMMUNICATION ..... ordering, paying, advice of delivery time..... plus, probably the selection and packing in the warehouse is on-line. HYUFD is, though, right when he points out the actual delivery of the 'thing' is a physical act which requires a person to walk up one's front door with a parcel.

We have not, AFAIK, reached the stage where one's 3D printer can be accessed by Amazon to print off the required object.
Yet, maybe.

Amazon delivers music files online.

And books + videos.

Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...

Why would anyone use snail mail?

Emails are free and instantaneous.

I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.

To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.

Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city

I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.

My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.

If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?

Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.

Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it

My family have stopped sending all cards

We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages

Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments

Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail

We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications

You still can't send parcels online

Yes, you can

Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home

So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example

What a bizarre response

As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected

Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door

Are you saying they are not an online business

I really do wonder about your thought processes

So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand

The parcels are processed online and it is an online service

Sadly you have a real problem when you lose an argument which is well known across this forum

Leave him alone.

I'm looking forward to an explanation of how Amazon can conduct its business without the internet.

Please give me one example where a parcel is ordered online from Amazon and sent to the recipient online and the parcel is then printed off by the recipient with no need for a deliverer?

In fairness to both sides there's a very considerable amount of hair-splitting here. Big G is right when he says that all the COMMUNICATION ..... ordering, paying, advice of delivery time..... plus, probably the selection and packing in the warehouse is on-line. HYUFD is, though, right when he points out the actual delivery of the 'thing' is a physical act which requires a person to walk up one's front door with a parcel.

We have not, AFAIK, reached the stage where one's 3D printer can be accessed by Amazon to print off the required object.
Yet, maybe.

Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...

Why would anyone use snail mail?

Emails are free and instantaneous.

I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.

To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.

Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city

I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.

My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.

If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?

Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.

Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it

My family have stopped sending all cards

We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages

Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments

Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail

We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications

You still can't send parcels online

Yes, you can

Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home

So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example

What a bizarre response

As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected

Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door

Are you saying they are not an online business

I really do wonder about your thought processes

So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand

By hand to your door is online.

You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.

No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email

What on earth are you rabbiting on about?

I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.

Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.

To stop us all dying of cellular ennui I am putting an end to this discussion and made an editorial ruling that you CAN send parcels online.

My judgment is impeccable and I will entertain no further discussions about my ruling.

Ah, but can you receive parcels online? Perhaps ‘hybrid’ is the correct term for parcels of pizza.

Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

Just wrong

Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered

No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

Should maintain: 65%
Should not maintain: 11%

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1

Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...

Why would anyone use snail mail?

Emails are free and instantaneous.

I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.

To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.

Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city

I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.

My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.

If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?

Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.

Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it

My family have stopped sending all cards

We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages

Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments

Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail

We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications

You still can't send parcels online

Yes, you can

Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home

So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example

What a bizarre response

As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected

Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door

Are you saying they are not an online business

I really do wonder about your thought processes

So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand

By hand to your door is online.

You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.

No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email

What on earth are you rabbiting on about?

I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.

Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.

My money is on the pirate!

Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.

There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.