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Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
I remember visiting Newark for the by-election at which Jenrick was elected and the funny thing is it seems like it was about 5 years ago, but it was in fact in 2014. A lot of people thought the UKIP candidate Roger Helmer might win.I remember it quite well; Farage had to defend Helmer for having old fashioned views about gay marriage.
isam
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Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
Perhaps if trump had got a friendly judge on the international court circuit who ruled Greenland was not danish but American , Starmer would say fair enough and also think its fine Denmark pay 30 billion to give it away
Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
Can we not give Trump a 20 year lease to Greenland with a break clause at every US election cycle? The incoming POTUS will get rid as soon as.Who’s this “we” that is able to lease Greenland to anyone?
DougSeal
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Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
'Kemi Badenoch must seize one-nation opportunityIt’s the best strategy for the Tories, and the worst for the LibDems, if presenting the risk that instead of the Tories splitting the right wing vote and letting the LDs through, they might instead split the centre vote and be letting Reform through. It all depends on the relative poll ratings, as you often point out. However, even a cursory glance at ConHome, full of frothing Tory members for whom anyone in their own party who is left of Genghis Khan is a miserable wet LibDem, shows how difficult it is going to be for the Tory party to return to moderate politics, even shorn of a few of its more extreme MPs.
Shedding rabble to Reform gives Conservative leader a chance to fill a gaping hole at the centre of British politics'
'..And we have the Liberal Democrats. Perhaps you’d forgotten them? Seventy-two — yes, 72 — MPs and absolutely no impact. No profile, no policies anyone can remember and no tough response to the tough problems government faces, led by a politician, Sir Ed Davey, who falls so far below the level of the leadership an insurgent centre party needs that it’s baffling he largely escapes criticism because (they say) he’s “a nice man”. Which indeed he is: more than nice, privately heroic, but political jelly.What luck, then, for the Conservatives! What an opportunity for Badenoch! Between leftish ninnies like Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves and “right-wing” clowns like Farage and his new ex-Tory best friends yawns a huge hole at the centre of British politics. It’s where tens of millions of us sit: homeless, worried, ready — even eager — to respond to a unifying message from a sensible centre-right party.
For Badenoch it’s time, now the nutters have gone, for an olive branch towards men like Kenneth Clarke, Michael Heseltine, David Gauke, Dominic Grieve … all driven away by Johnson. James Cleverly and the sensible shadow chancellor Mel Stride could be her envoys to the wilderness into which moderate conservatives feel we have been cast.The metaphor of a broad church cuts both ways, and there’s a place for loyal Conservatives of the Rees-Moggian tendency and there are bullets moderates, too, must bite. Stern, even harsh control of unlawful immigration; more for defence and less for welfare; a critical review of membership of the European Convention on Human Rights; unblinking acceptance that the European Union ship has sailed and there’s no return.
There will be gulps among former Tory moderates, though fewer gulps, I think, among the electorate. Shorn of the distractions of populist fantasy, the reunification of the centre right will still be a hard ride but it should fall to Badenoch to lead the charge.She is not naturally emollient, not a born unifier, but may be surprised at how much the old broad-church Tory party wants to like her, if only she shows herself ready to be liked.'
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/kemi-badenoch-must-seize-one-nation-opportunity-rv6mqqxsx?gaa_at=eafs
IanB2
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Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
This is true and yet the mistake has been made long ago and we need the support of as many people as possible to deal with the consequences, so I guess we should refrain somewhat from damning people who come belatedly to the realisation that Trump is a clear and present danger. The twits.Daniel HannanHe's right - there's absolutely nothing in Trump's past behaviour that might have indicated that he might do something like this. /s
@DanielJHannan
A lot of good people are on a hook over Donald Trump. They voted for him for understandable reasons: to stop Hillary of Kamala, to prevent court-packing, to move the embassy to Jerusalem, to reduce regulations.
They rightly applauded his toughening of immigration policy. They began to feel invested in him. Sure, he was boorish and bombastic, but he was delivering most of what he was elected to do. Naturally, they bridled at criticism from people they disliked, some of which was indeed absurd.
But he has plainly now lost his mind . There is no other way of reading “I am going to threaten an ally with invasion because I didn’t get the Nobel Peace Prize”.
It is impossible to exaggerate how high the stakes are. If Putin had put an agent in the White House, what would would be doing differently?
We are talking about the survival of the Western way of life, about the world order of which the United States is the chief exemplar and beneficiary. That, surely, matters more than “liberal tears”. Doesn’t it? Because if it doesn’t, we are all damned.
https://x.com/DanielJHannan/status/2013248587442930084
This kind of excuse does not wash at all. If you voted for Trump, you knew exactly what kind of individual he was, and what the risks were of doing so. Character is important when it comes to nuclear weapons and the future of the free world, and no MAGA voter should get a pass for it. Irresponsible, childish people who I wouldn't trust with anything.
I think a fairer take is that the behaviour is escalating to quite an extraordinary degree. In retrospect, it's sickening that a term like "Trump Derangement Syndrome" even exists - anyone who spouted that previously looks like a complete bellend now. Any attempt to curtail this behaviour now will be just blown away. The time to stop Trump was after January 6th, should've been stamped out then.
There are two priorities.
One. Deal with the reality. Stand up to Trump. Do what needs to be done to secure British defence independent of the US.
Two. Avoid repeating the mistake. Absolutely nail Farage for his Russian connections. For his repetition of Russian talking points. For his Trump support and imitation.
We can see what a leader like Trump can do to a country's interests. We need to ensure that Britain's wannabe Trump is soundly defeated. Somehow. It would kinda help if the government was generally a bit less useless.
Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
Paging @viewcode & @Taz and all my fellow geeks.
‘Blake’s 7’ Reboot In The Works From ‘The Last Of Us’ Director Peter Hoar & ‘A Good Girl’s Guide To Murder’ Exec Matthew Bouch
https://deadline.com/2026/01/blakes-7-reboot-peter-hoar-matthew-bouch-multitude-productions-1236682580/
‘Blake’s 7’ Reboot In The Works From ‘The Last Of Us’ Director Peter Hoar & ‘A Good Girl’s Guide To Murder’ Exec Matthew Bouch
https://deadline.com/2026/01/blakes-7-reboot-peter-hoar-matthew-bouch-multitude-productions-1236682580/
Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
Daniel HannanExcept the evidence for what an unbridled horror he would be if the keys to the WH were to be returned to him was there for anybody with a braincell or a shred of decency to see for years beforehand. Good people my arse.
@DanielJHannan
A lot of good people are on a hook over Donald Trump. They voted for him for understandable reasons: to stop Hillary of Kamala, to prevent court-packing, to move the embassy to Jerusalem, to reduce regulations.
They rightly applauded his toughening of immigration policy. They began to feel invested in him. Sure, he was boorish and bombastic, but he was delivering most of what he was elected to do. Naturally, they bridled at criticism from people they disliked, some of which was indeed absurd.
But he has plainly now lost his mind . There is no other way of reading “I am going to threaten an ally with invasion because I didn’t get the Nobel Peace Prize”.
It is impossible to exaggerate how high the stakes are. If Putin had put an agent in the White House, what would would be doing differently?
We are talking about the survival of the Western way of life, about the world order of which the United States is the chief exemplar and beneficiary. That, surely, matters more than “liberal tears”. Doesn’t it? Because if it doesn’t, we are all damned.
https://x.com/DanielJHannan/status/2013248587442930084
kinabalu
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Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
As a thought experiment, what would it look like if we applied the Trump approach?Don't give @HYUFD ideas !!!!
I guess we’d invade Ireland, lock up all Scot Nats, and retake Cyprus?
All militarily feasible. All inconceivable.
Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
Daniel HannanIs this the same Dan Hanaan who thought delivering Putin's wet dream of a divided Europe was such a good idea?
@DanielJHannan
A lot of good people are on a hook over Donald Trump. They voted for him for understandable reasons: to stop Hillary of Kamala, to prevent court-packing, to move the embassy to Jerusalem, to reduce regulations.
They rightly applauded his toughening of immigration policy. They began to feel invested in him. Sure, he was boorish and bombastic, but he was delivering most of what he was elected to do. Naturally, they bridled at criticism from people they disliked, some of which was indeed absurd.
But he has plainly now lost his mind . There is no other way of reading “I am going to threaten an ally with invasion because I didn’t get the Nobel Peace Prize”.
It is impossible to exaggerate how high the stakes are. If Putin had put an agent in the White House, what would would be doing differently?
We are talking about the survival of the Western way of life, about the world order of which the United States is the chief exemplar and beneficiary. That, surely, matters more than “liberal tears”. Doesn’t it? Because if it doesn’t, we are all damned.
https://x.com/DanielJHannan/status/2013248587442930084
Re: Alas poor Jenrick, I knew him – politicalbetting.com
Trump is using the Gaza conflict - that remains unsettled - to set up a rival to the UN with its own charter, peace making role and funding. The text shows only Chairman Trump will determine membership - unlucky China - and the chairman will determine how votes are held.
https://x.com/patrickwintour/status/2013301490933260646
https://x.com/patrickwintour/status/2013301490933260646



