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Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
On topic, great thread here on how the Tory press reacted to previous extensions of the franchise:In my youth the most positive reason for a young man joining the Young Conservatives was the chance to meet a significant amount of posh totty.
https://bsky.app/profile/robertsaunders.bsky.social/post/3lucr7qlrqk2s
I thought this particularly accurate:
"There are perfectly fair arguments against votes at 16.
But the idea young people are inherently left-wing & that enfranchising them is "vote-rigging"is absurd.
The Tories used to have the largest youth wing in Europe. That they've given up on young voters says more about them than about the young"
Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
We all know the solution to this spies crisis, to activate PB's ownTraining video here - https://youtu.be/udQM_DbATFk?si=olZULsbR0eT8iVoZAgentPostman 47....
Note the critical mistake
Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
This is quite something. The ex-head of the UK’s Secret Intelligence Service is interviewed by CNN about “Israel, Syria and the Druze”
He makes the crucial point that the Druze are Muslims
https://x.com/hearnimator/status/1945790676131512454?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Only problem, the Druze are not Muslims. How come I know that - and he doesn’t? He was the head of the SIS. His job is to know basic facts like this
We are absolutely screwed. We are led by idiots. In all regards
He makes the crucial point that the Druze are Muslims
https://x.com/hearnimator/status/1945790676131512454?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Only problem, the Druze are not Muslims. How come I know that - and he doesn’t? He was the head of the SIS. His job is to know basic facts like this
We are absolutely screwed. We are led by idiots. In all regards

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Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
For the alternative take on Israeli intervention in Syria, try this:
https://x.com/RawaneOsmane/status/1946214480368816190
It does seem strange how the mainstream reaction to Israel acting against a brutal government is to accuse them of wanting to create a failed state. Thinking of Sawers it does feel like a lot of the westsplaining towards Eastern Europe regards Russia. We think we understand these places so much better than their actual neighbours do.
https://x.com/RawaneOsmane/status/1946214480368816190
It does seem strange how the mainstream reaction to Israel acting against a brutal government is to accuse them of wanting to create a failed state. Thinking of Sawers it does feel like a lot of the westsplaining towards Eastern Europe regards Russia. We think we understand these places so much better than their actual neighbours do.
Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
MI5 spies are quitting for better pay and work-life balanceSnowflake 007....
https://inews.co.uk/news/mi5-spies-quitting-better-pay-work-life-balance-3811639
Britain, 2025.
Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
Ha MI5, you therefore have less than a thousand agents!MI5 spies are quitting for better pay and work-life balanceSnowflake 007....
https://inews.co.uk/news/mi5-spies-quitting-better-pay-work-life-balance-3811639
Britain, 2025.

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Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
I’m sure @Malmesbury would agree that restricting the franchise to the NU10K would have no disadvantages at all. No, none whatsoever.Or just go back to 1832 on that basis and only the top 5% of property owners can voteOr you could turn it around the other way. If you don’t pay Income Tax or NI you don’t get to vote.I had the idea that age shouldn’t be a factor when it comes to voting, and that a better way was to only allow those who had four GCSE’s at C or above (or whatever the equivalent is now, a number?). The downsides would be that it rules out those who are clever but not academically minded, and immigrants who didn’t go to school here , although going to night school or learning at home in order to get the vote might improve assimilationSure. As long as the people who don't get to vote don't get to pay taxes.
Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
MI5 spies are quitting for better pay and work-life balanceBut, but, "gold plated pensions" ...
https://inews.co.uk/news/mi5-spies-quitting-better-pay-work-life-balance-3811639
ETA in unrelated news:-
Putin’s spies have infiltrated every section of British society
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/19/putins-spies-have-infiltrated-every-section-of-britain/ (£££)

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Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
27-19 loss a generous score for the hosts, who were nowhere for the first 3/4 of the match.They never really looked like losing, but that's not because the Lions were great it's because the Aussies were poor
Lions need to make sure they don’t let a good lead slide next weekend.
Need a few more Englishmen! Also where is that mad Scotsman, Van Der Merwe, is he injured? He's a superb player

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Re: Angela Rayner is in touch with the public (sadly they are both wrong) – politicalbetting.com
Precision bombing is great if you are targeting conventional military forces or governments.In an age where military technology makes precision bombing possible, the kind of carpet-bombing that prevailed in WWII is not.Good morning everyone, and theank-you for the header.Did Hamas surrender yet?
I'll fpt this one:
Post-midnight, so now I have my photo quota back, this is one before/after shot from the actions of Israel in Gaza.
This is comparing March 25 2025 and July 4 2025. Checking the timeline *, the ceasefire was January 19, 2025, which Israel broke on Match 18 2025.
I don't know if anyone else has comparisons, but I'm thinking of cities deliberately demolished to expel their people and prevent return, after occupation has been achieved. I'm not even sure if Mariupol or Warsaw 1944 are in that category. What comparisons can we make?
There's a whole series of Geneva Convention breaches here. Netanyahu will imo have Trump's support, as he wishes to destroy the international rule of law.
BBC piece, with fuller analysis.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-33fccfbe-abcc-4af1-bdd2-632b2787cf59
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire
The war continues. Bombing during war is legitimate.
To be blunt, I think that Netanyahu and his backers want a state of permanent war, because they see political advantage from it. Even if Hamas surrendered unconditionally, they would find a pretext to keep on fighting and bombing.
Precision bombing is pretty irrelevant if the enemy being bombed is an insurgency, or is willing to shelter amongst civilians. You just use fewer munitions to kill civilians as well as the target.
(Which makes Russia's use of precision weapons to target and destroy civilian infrastructure and civilians much worse. I wish the pro-Hamas shits in the west would do more to acknowledge the evils that Russia are committing.)