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Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
Comedy outcome* in Gorton and Denton is that King Andy takes the seat, then Labour lose the mayoralty to Reform.
Collapse of WWC vote in the northern/eastern boroughs such as Rochdale/Oldham to Reform, Labour vote splits between Greens and Independent nut job candidates. Galloway will probably annoy everyone by giving it a shot.
*As a GM resident, I wouldn't find a Reformer as Mayor amusing though, we could probably kiss goodbye to the tram extensions.
Collapse of WWC vote in the northern/eastern boroughs such as Rochdale/Oldham to Reform, Labour vote splits between Greens and Independent nut job candidates. Galloway will probably annoy everyone by giving it a shot.
*As a GM resident, I wouldn't find a Reformer as Mayor amusing though, we could probably kiss goodbye to the tram extensions.
Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
A pity, perhaps, that he reserves his ruthlessness for his party rather than deploying it to the UK's advantage.Starmer is clearly terrified of Burnham given the Labour members polls showing him far preferred to Sir Keir and the poll at the time of the Labour conference putting a Burnham led Labour narrowly ahead of Reform.Your analysis of Labour politics isn't nearly as good as your analysis of Tory politics. It would be absolutely disastrous for Starmer / the NEC to block Burnham on the grounds of gender/BME characteristics, so they won't do it. More likely, they'll try to persuade him not to put his name forward, as he'd be letting down his promises to the people of Greater Manchester if he did. But if he does go for it, Starmer will just ride it out and see what happens.
Hence he will try and use the NEC to block him being on the shortlist for the Gorton by election. As Burnham is a white male team Starmer putting forward an all BME shortlist for the Labour nomination is a convenient way for Starmer to kick the King of the North into touch
I suspect Starmer's ruthlessness is underestimated by many, and he'll see off Burnham if he has to. But I don't think he'll need to.
AnneJGP
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Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
What's the longest war Britain didn't change PMs for the duration?We also had 7 PMs during the Napoleonic wars - Pitt, Addington, Pitt, Grenville, Portland, Perceval and Liverpool. Also 2 in the Crimean war - Aberdeen and Palmerston.We changed PM twice in WW2.I know.
Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
If you are afraid of a contest, you have already lost.
Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
On the grounds that you want someone who isn't "annoying and whiny and swans around like the best thing since sliced bread" - you want Rayner?!Burnham will stand, Burnham will loseThat would be hilarious . I just find him really annoying and whiny and he swans around like he’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’d much rather Angela Rayner made a return to the cabinet and took over if Starmer goes .
Cookie
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Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
I doubt much money will be saved and there will be a lot of friction around choice of police cars. A focus on serious and organised crime is all well and good but what about shoplifting or phone thefts and other visible crime that people are concerned about. Localism matters.'The government is to radically reduce the number of police forces in England and Wales as part of what sources have called the largest reform of policing in decades.Of all the government, Mahmood is one that can't be accused of not being active trying to change things. If those chnages are good or not is another matter. I have to say 43 different police forces for the size of countries of England and Wales does seem excessive.
Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood will announce plans for police reform next week.
She will pledge to "significantly" cut the number of forces from its current level of 43, and tell them to focus on serious and organised crime. Police chiefs have been calling, external for the creation of 12 "mega forces" to save money and boost crime-fighting efforts.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwnn10rgk4o
Is Shabana Mahmood the Robert Peel of our time or merely another Rachel Reeves pushing through a decades-old civil service wishlist?
Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
I think we kept the same PM throughout the war with Zanzibar....What's the longest war Britain didn't change PMs for the duration?We also had 7 PMs during the Napoleonic wars - Pitt, Addington, Pitt, Grenville, Portland, Perceval and Liverpool. Also 2 in the Crimean war - Aberdeen and Palmerston.We changed PM twice in WW2.I know.
stodge
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Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
I foresee the following
1) Burnham is blocked from standing with a shortlist.
2) Labour manages to find a truly useless candidate.
3) Green and Reform go for it full on
4) Starmer & Co try to blame Burnham for polls showing they will lose the by election.
5) Burnham will do lots of campaigning there
6) Labour loses.
7) Starmer comes out if this more damaged, while elevating Burnham even more.
1) Burnham is blocked from standing with a shortlist.
2) Labour manages to find a truly useless candidate.
3) Green and Reform go for it full on
4) Starmer & Co try to blame Burnham for polls showing they will lose the by election.
5) Burnham will do lots of campaigning there
6) Labour loses.
7) Starmer comes out if this more damaged, while elevating Burnham even more.
Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
Be careful what you wish for.Burnham will stand, Burnham will loseThat would be hilarious . I just find him really annoying and whiny and he swans around like he’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’d much rather Angela Rayner made a return to the cabinet and took over if Starmer goes .
Re: We changed Prime Ministers during both World Wars – politicalbetting.com
'The government is to radically reduce the number of police forces in England and Wales as part of what sources have called the largest reform of policing in decades.Of all the government, Mahmood is one that can't be accused of not being active trying to change things. If those chnages are good or not is another matter. I have to say 43 different police forces for the size of countries of England and Wales does seem excessive.
Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood will announce plans for police reform next week.
She will pledge to "significantly" cut the number of forces from its current level of 43, and tell them to focus on serious and organised crime. Police chiefs have been calling, external for the creation of 12 "mega forces" to save money and boost crime-fighting efforts.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwnn10rgk4o
