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@steverichards14

Powerful and much needed framing from Andy Burnham in the Guardian..should be repeated every day by ministers or they will find they are blamed for ‘broken Britain’:
“If the question at the centre of British politics is “who broke Britain?”, let’s be clear and unequivocal. The four horsemen of Britain’s apocalypse are deindustrialisation, privatisation, austerity and Brexit.
In my time in politics, there has been a tendency for too many in Labour to accept too much of the framing of the right, but we must firmly reject its narrative and call it out in no uncertain terms. Figures on the British right talk of taking back control, but people can see that they are the ones who gave it away.”

https://x.com/steverichards14/status/2014612676777779396?s=20

If Labour are to win the next election we MUST rejoin the EU. Starmer or Burnham must batter it through. No Referendums. Just a huge parlianentary majority. The full fat version including Schengen. We must put ourselves at the centre of Europe.

Labour have nothing to lose. They are sleepwalking to possible defeat at the hands of Farage. There is no form of REJOIN that would be a worse fate for this country than that.

Rejoin plus Euro means zero chance of Labour re election

Nobody is suggesting the Euro

Roger is (“…full fat version…”) in the comment HYUFD is replying to!

The reality of Rejoin is

1) We would be asked to follow the process that all applicants to the are do. The politics of Europe will not slow a special exemption - too many countries would get upset
2) So we would be signing up to “full fat” Europe
3) This means signing up for the Euro. Since this would remove a huge chunk of the mucking around with the economy the politicians love, this would be a matter of
I) Signing up to the Euro joining process
II) Never actually meeting he requirements and joining

@steverichards14

Powerful and much needed framing from Andy Burnham in the Guardian..should be repeated every day by ministers or they will find they are blamed for ‘broken Britain’:
“If the question at the centre of British politics is “who broke Britain?”, let’s be clear and unequivocal. The four horsemen of Britain’s apocalypse are deindustrialisation, privatisation, austerity and Brexit.
In my time in politics, there has been a tendency for too many in Labour to accept too much of the framing of the right, but we must firmly reject its narrative and call it out in no uncertain terms. Figures on the British right talk of taking back control, but people can see that they are the ones who gave it away.”

https://x.com/steverichards14/status/2014612676777779396?s=20

If Labour are to win the next election we MUST rejoin the EU. Starmer or Burnham must batter it through. No Referendums. Just a huge parlianentary majority. The full fat version including Schengen. We must put ourselves at the centre of Europe.

Labour have nothing to lose. They are sleepwalking to possible defeat at the hands of Farage. There is no form of REJOIN that would be a worse fate for this country than that.

Rejoin plus Euro means zero chance of Labour re election

Nobody is suggesting the Euro

Roger is (“…full fat version…”) in the comment HYUFD is replying to!

The reality of Rejoin is

1) We would be asked to follow the process that all applicants to the are do. The politics of Europe will not slow a special exemption - too many countries would get upset
2) So we would be signing up to “full fat” Europe
3) This means signing up for the Euro. Since this would remove a huge chunk of the mucking around with the economy the politicians love, this would be a matter of
I) Signing up to the Euro joining process
II) Never actually meeting he requirements and joining

@steverichards14

Powerful and much needed framing from Andy Burnham in the Guardian..should be repeated every day by ministers or they will find they are blamed for ‘broken Britain’:
“If the question at the centre of British politics is “who broke Britain?”, let’s be clear and unequivocal. The four horsemen of Britain’s apocalypse are deindustrialisation, privatisation, austerity and Brexit.
In my time in politics, there has been a tendency for too many in Labour to accept too much of the framing of the right, but we must firmly reject its narrative and call it out in no uncertain terms. Figures on the British right talk of taking back control, but people can see that they are the ones who gave it away.”

https://x.com/steverichards14/status/2014612676777779396?s=20

Almost at the fiftieth anniversary of Blame Thatcher. How long can they drag it out? I assume this is aimed at the Party Faithful.

I’ll remind you of this next time someone brings up the Winter of Discontent

The Greens certainly have a shot but less so than Remain voting Manchester itself as Gordon was 50% Leave.

Burnham should hold it as the popular Greater Manchester Mayor. It looks though like Starmer and the NEC will impose an all BAME shortlist to keep out Burnham for the Labour nomination which would benefit Reform

The Gorton constituency as at 2016 took in a lot more of the working class and multiethnic areas directly south of Manchester. I don't think the whole nature of the Manchester part of the constituency has changed that radically but, for instance, ethnic minority Brexit voters don't necessarily translate into Reform voters.

No but Gorton is still majority white working class and if an all BAME Labour shortlist is imposed to keep out Burnham that will boost Reform with them

@steverichards14

Powerful and much needed framing from Andy Burnham in the Guardian..should be repeated every day by ministers or they will find they are blamed for ‘broken Britain’:
“If the question at the centre of British politics is “who broke Britain?”, let’s be clear and unequivocal. The four horsemen of Britain’s apocalypse are deindustrialisation, privatisation, austerity and Brexit.
In my time in politics, there has been a tendency for too many in Labour to accept too much of the framing of the right, but we must firmly reject its narrative and call it out in no uncertain terms. Figures on the British right talk of taking back control, but people can see that they are the ones who gave it away.”

https://x.com/steverichards14/status/2014612676777779396?s=20

If Labour are to win the next election we MUST rejoin the EU. Starmer or Burnham must batter it through. No Referendums. Just a huge parlianentary majority. The full fat version including Schengen. We must put ourselves at the centre of Europe.

Labour have nothing to lose. They are sleepwalking to possible defeat at the hands of Farage. There is no form of REJOIN that would be a worse fate for this country than that.

Rejoin plus Euro means zero chance of Labour re election

Nobody is suggesting the Euro

@steverichards14

Powerful and much needed framing from Andy Burnham in the Guardian..should be repeated every day by ministers or they will find they are blamed for ‘broken Britain’:
“If the question at the centre of British politics is “who broke Britain?”, let’s be clear and unequivocal. The four horsemen of Britain’s apocalypse are deindustrialisation, privatisation, austerity and Brexit.
In my time in politics, there has been a tendency for too many in Labour to accept too much of the framing of the right, but we must firmly reject its narrative and call it out in no uncertain terms. Figures on the British right talk of taking back control, but people can see that they are the ones who gave it away.”

https://x.com/steverichards14/status/2014612676777779396?s=20

Almost at the fiftieth anniversary of Blame Thatcher. How long can they drag it out? I assume this is aimed at the Party Faithful.

I’ll remind you of this next time someone brings up the Winter of Discontent

@steverichards14

Powerful and much needed framing from Andy Burnham in the Guardian..should be repeated every day by ministers or they will find they are blamed for ‘broken Britain’:
“If the question at the centre of British politics is “who broke Britain?”, let’s be clear and unequivocal. The four horsemen of Britain’s apocalypse are deindustrialisation, privatisation, austerity and Brexit.
In my time in politics, there has been a tendency for too many in Labour to accept too much of the framing of the right, but we must firmly reject its narrative and call it out in no uncertain terms. Figures on the British right talk of taking back control, but people can see that they are the ones who gave it away.”

https://x.com/steverichards14/status/2014612676777779396?s=20

1970s nationalised Britain was a basket case, deindustrialisation is global but there are still high skilled manufacturers and industry in the UK and of course Trump was elected in the US to tariff imports especially from China and protect industry. No austerity from this high tax and welfare splurging Labour government. It was the British people themselves who voted for Brexit in the 2016 EU referendum against the advice of the then Tory PM

What Burnham’s thesis fails to grasp (and what many on the left also desperately avoid) is that for all the negative consequences of deindustrialisation (a policy of both parties) and the Thatcher reforms - and it is fantasy to suggest that there weren’t negative consequences - they were popular with huge parts of society and, after the turmoil of the 1980s, largely accepted by society at large for the next 20-30 years (depending on whether you think that stops at the GFC or not).