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Ah but the glorious unpredictability....Denyers not standing as Green LeaderYes of course but plenty on here seem to think a) Reform have won the election and Farage will be Prime Minister and b) Labour will be reduced to a level of MPs they've not had since the 1930s.Long way to go though, isn’t there?It's what always happens when a party which has been in Government for an extended period goes into Opposition.The Tory media team really do need to be sacked. Its been *brutal* all week on X. They put out post after post attacking Labour for things and practically every response calls out that they did the same / they did nothing about it / they had 14 years.All well and good but what else have they got? Until a few more years have passed everything will be easy to frame in the narrative of ‘look what the Tories did in 2019-2024’.
Best one? Attacking a Labour minister for (rightly) saying the weather affects small boat crossings, with someone posting the headline where PM Sunak did the exact same thing.
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Indeed, the Conservatives in Government were still trying to play the "Winter of Discontent" card against Blair in the 1990s when most people under 30 had no clue what it meant (though it wasn't for them of course).
The Conservatives governed for 13 years (1951-64), 18 Years (1979-97) and 14 years (2010-24). In the first two instances, they lost both the election which took them into Opposition and the following election. Indeed, until 2024, the defeats of 1966 and 2001 were two of the biggest since 1945 for the Tories.
Labour governed for 13 years (1997-2010) and lost in 2015.
On that basis, the prospects for Labour's re-election in 2028/29 are actually quite good but the current mood suggests otherwise.
Neither assumption is valid at this time and may not even be valid in 12 months let alone 36.
The glorious unpredictability of politics means almost anything could happen.
Perhaps Carla Denyer as LOTO staring across the dispatch box at Prime Minister Ed Davey - well, it's a thought....
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In essence they need the spirit of Cameron back. Make the case for conservatism (sound money, good governance,* small state) etc. Start to address the real concerns people have about immigration by explaining what it good and what is bad, and actually stop some of the worst abuses. Close these the HE colleges that are just excuses to get a student visa to then work in uncles curry house.A New Plan. They can't deny the past - that is being brutally demonstrated to them this week. They can't assume people are stupid as they are doing - even the ones who *are* stupid remember the failures of Stop the Boats.The Tory media team really do need to be sacked. Its been *brutal* all week on X. They put out post after post attacking Labour for things and practically every response calls out that they did the same / they did nothing about it / they had 14 years.All well and good but what else have they got? Until a few more years have passed everything will be easy to frame in the narrative of ‘look what the Tories did in 2019-2024’.
Best one? Attacking a Labour minister for (rightly) saying the weather affects small boat crossings, with someone posting the headline where PM Sunak did the exact same thing.
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I really do blame Kemi. There is a sneering arrogance about her leadership - she is faultless and flawless and how dare you say anything else? Worse, some of her shadow team openly look like they are going through the motions because they obviously are.
Start building homes.
Pledge to build HS2 properly to Scotland and all parts North.
But still people won’t listen for a good few years.
* Stop sniggering at the back Jenkins
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We should make really fat people on benefits go out and pick up all the litter. Win winMake them go out an pick vegetables, no risk of them eating the produce.

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Thats the first time I have seen the conservatives above Labour in a poll even if they are even
https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1955633517930676660?t=7IH_yaRNljvUfuqx6-U5Vg&s=19
https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1955633517930676660?t=7IH_yaRNljvUfuqx6-U5Vg&s=19
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If the politicians are managing to install VPNs, I back any teenager to do it.Have you met any kids lately? It's all Fortnite and Roblox. They've literally been raised by the iPhone and iPad. PB is so far behind the times on this its laughable. It's also interesting that the supporters of the government are making these weak arguments in favour of the OSA and the ignorance about tech literacy among kids is about the same level as the government. I guess you're one of those people that believes deleting emails will save water.Yes, but not everyone is a tech bro wanker at that age.Having been 15 during the age of the internet. Using a VPN is trivially easy. Every male over the age of 11 will have figured it out. The older kids in school will have helped the younger ones install them on their phones, probably charged them a fiver of pocket money to do it too.So what. VPN use rises and this mitigates the impact. Mitigates is not the same as eliminates.We know that VPN's became the most downloaded app in the UK, google searches for VPN's went through the roof and so on. Maybe that's all just so we can read the news that's been redacted?If you want that (imperfect) comparison it's like a price hike AND having to produce an "I'm a drug addict" card to complete the purchase.It’s the online equivalent of the Chancellor putting 10p on a pack of cigarettes in the Budget.Making an activity harder to do leads to fewer people doing it.Not an easy thing to measure, but if I were to bet on the number of people accessing such sites iths month vs last month, I’d say that the number will be pretty much identical.VPN yada yada. Fact is, there'll be fewer men and boys watching porn because some friction has been introduced into the access protocols. A good thing imo.More like big boost for VPN companies, who are all foreign owned. Great for the economies of a number of Eastern European countries.https://www.ft.com/content/618f07cb-3cd8-42ff-af63-29118d305cbeBig win for the OSA. We should see a boost to productivity.
UK porn site traffic plunges as age verification rules take effect
Pornhub loses more than 1mn visitors in two weeks after Online Safety Act comes into force
Why should viewing porn be an exception to this?
Anyway, we'll see who's right. There will be a consensus on the matter fairly soon.
What makes you think all porn users are doing this?
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The idea beloved of some Nats, that the Scots weren’t really eager participants in the British Empire, is one of the greatest triumphs of self-delusion in all modern politicsThe idea that this is some fresh killer point when pooped out by a Yoon for the millionth time is also pretty hot in the self delusion stakes.
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McMurdock says in a letter that the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards has cleared me of any wrongdoing.Very decent of him - but what were you accused of, Francis ?
https://x.com/JMcMurdockMP/status/1955653510445547529

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I like stats. They are warm and fuzzyI bow to your knowledge and thank youThats the first time I have seen the conservatives above Labour in a poll even if they are evenThey were ahead of them in the Jun 16 MiC poll 22 to 21
https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1955633517930676660?t=7IH_yaRNljvUfuqx6-U5Vg&s=19
They led Labour in 16 polls between GE 24 and LE 25

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Thats the first time I have seen the conservatives above Labour in a poll even if they are evenMore In Common had the Conservatives in front of Labour as far back as the middle of June !!
https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1955633517930676660?t=7IH_yaRNljvUfuqx6-U5Vg&s=19
It's a better poll for the Conservatives, no doubt, but it could be an outlier.
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I bow to your knowledge and thank youThats the first time I have seen the conservatives above Labour in a poll even if they are evenThey were ahead of them in the Jun 16 MiC poll 22 to 21
https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1955633517930676660?t=7IH_yaRNljvUfuqx6-U5Vg&s=19
They led Labour in 16 polls between GE 24 and LE 25