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Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
That's part of the problem. We might know that we ought to want reliable news and information, mostly we're not prepared to pay for it.Perhaps people should ask for their money back.Eh?You do not think users should be able to choose what they want to see, and block what they do not want under your "chronological only" rule? Would you apply "chronological only" to other media? Newspapers would become unreadable, as would medical journals. It sounds fine but it completely ignores reality.The simple solution to most of our Social Media related woes is to make any platform that uses an alogorithm other than chronological liable as any other media publisher. It would cut them down to size very quickly if they didn't shape up.That’s a fair argument, that it’s the same as a newspaper endorsement coming from the proprietor or editorial team. But what if they’re foreigners widely read in the UK.Elon Musk is retweeting Rupert Lowe again:Eh?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2064396727344320767
Musk’s comment:
Only Restore Britain can save Britain.
It is the only way.
That’s a nakedly partisan political comment to someone with likely several million UK followers, during a restricted election period.
Will one of the other parties ask for a ruling from the Electoral Commission on what might be the value of such posts, if they need to be included in by-election spending, and ask Lowe to produce any communications he may have had with Mr Musk?
So if Lord Sugar or Tony Robinson or other celebs who've endorsed Labour in the past make naked partisan comments, does that get counted against their budget?
Many ways to criticise Musk and Restore, but celebrities making comments is neither new nor actionable surely?
There’s plenty of both positives and negatives about Mr Lowe, but I was thinking it’s an issue that hasnn’t come up before, so might be worthy of somebody getting a ruling on what is or isn’t allowed.
Back in the day, on Facebook, say, your feed would be a reverse chronological order of posts by the people whose posts you wanted to see. That would be it. Same with twitter. And then you could actively search for other things, such as posts about a subject or place you were interested in.
Then the social media companies started using algorithms to curate what they showed you, so they'd shove all this crap in front of you that you hadn't chosen to see, but that would annoy you and keep you scrolling for longer, while you tried to find the posts from the people you wanted to follow.
The whole point is that social media is now a space where an algorithm edits your experience, in the same way that a newspaper edits what news it presents, and so if they want to use an algorithm they should abide by the same rules as newspapers.
If they're only a neutral place for other people to do their own thing then they should not use algorithms to interfere in what you see.
Talking of which, a new report on online non-news;
2 in 5 local Facebook groups and over four-fifths of X searches featured at least one piece of misinformation in their last 1,000 posts. Of 19 Nextdoor locations studied, 3 were found to contain misinformation.
Nearly 1 in 26 (4%) of news related posts on Facebook were misinformation; on X the ratio is over 1 in 4 (28%)
Places in local authorities with no or limited local news outlets (e.g. ‘news deserts’) had nearly 3 times as much fake news as a share of all posts as average on Facebook groups, albeit based upon 12 groups worth of data.
Conversely, places with a relatively high number of local news outlets (‘news oases’) have half as much misinformation as average, again based upon a limited sample (13 groups).
Places with local elections, on average, saw more misinformation in the run up to polling day than they did earlier in the year. Misinformation as a share of all posts increased from 0.12% to 0.15% (26% increase) and as a share of news grew from 8.2% to 12.9% (56%).
The rate of misinformation seen across four Gorton and Denton local Facebook groups was 26 times higher than in the wider Facebook analysis – 3% of 1,000 posts were identified as fake news, compared to 0.1% nationally. This is driven by far more news related posts on these groups, and a near doubling of the share of them being classified as misinformation.
Three in five misinformation posts (61%) in places with local elections in the week of the vote related to national politics or council issues, compared to 28% in the wider national analysis earlier in the year.
1 in 5 ‘fake news’ (19%) posts analysed on Facebook groups related to local issues, including planning, transport, local services and council politics. Our case studies revealed how planning applications could be misinterpreted into the “council selling off the beach”, or how local authority communications can be faked.
A third (32%) of misinformation found on X was anti-immigration or Islamophobic, far ahead of the next most common, h…
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Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
Indeed. No chance Boris shops at Lidl which is where Elvis works as a cashier these days."I have as much chance of becoming Prime Minister as of being decapitated by a frisbee or of finding Elvis." - Boris.Zelensky was a comic actor too. Perhaps there is something in this, might we have been happier with a PM Mirren or Grant? Maybe in the future Emma Watson?Has Andy Burnham got the gravitas to be PM?If Justin Trudeau, a former drama supply teacher, could be PM of a G7 nation for a decade I am sure Cambridge educated Burnham could manage.
I'm beginning to wonder.
Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
Norman Lamb: The mental health system is broken.
This is essential viewing imho
https://x.com/Channel4News/status/2064301955170668847
This is essential viewing imho
https://x.com/Channel4News/status/2064301955170668847
Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
Away from all this Twitter discussion, the area Lowe needs to be very careful is the Parliamentary watchdog investigation into him that he tried and failed to stop, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g0wre4k2zo , but the details of which are still unknown.More than just correspondance: see Blair's pilgrimage to Murdoch.What's the precedence for that?Sandpit asked whether Lowe had had communications with Musk. If someone endorsed you, that’s one thing. If a candidate arranges with someone for the equivalent of a paid ad, that’s something that could come under rules around election communications and donations.That's not new though, Murdoch has broadcast his messages to the world through platforms he owns for decades. When has it ever been expensed?But Musk isn’t just commenting. He’s broadcasting his message to the world through the social media platform he owns. Twitter is programmed to push his thoughts at people. That’s closer to if Lord Sugar took out a paid advert.Elon Musk is retweeting Rupert Lowe again:Eh?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2064396727344320767
Musk’s comment:
Only Restore Britain can save Britain.
It is the only way.
That’s a nakedly partisan political comment to someone with likely several million UK followers, during a restricted election period.
Will one of the other parties ask for a ruling from the Electoral Commission on what might be the value of such posts, if they need to be included in by-election spending, and ask Lowe to produce any communications he may have had with Mr Musk?
So if Lord Sugar or Tony Robinson or other celebs who've endorsed Labour in the past make naked partisan comments, does that get counted against their budget?
Many ways to criticise Musk and Restore, but celebrities making comments is neither new nor actionable surely?
Politicians have regularly had correspondence with Murdoch et al.
The one area where Lowe does need to be *slightly* careful, though, is to make sure he's disclosing all his Twitter/X earnings. If he really is taking in 10k+/month then that should be disclosed in the Register of Interests.
Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
PM Mirren would be good. No nonsense and great tits which is really what the country is crying out for - you have the votes of the luvvies, shire conservatives, and sun readers.Zelensky was a comic actor too. Perhaps there is something in this, might we have been happier with a PM Mirren or Grant? Maybe in the future Emma Watson?Has Andy Burnham got the gravitas to be PM?If Justin Trudeau, a former drama supply teacher, could be PM of a G7 nation for a decade I am sure Cambridge educated Burnham could manage.
I'm beginning to wonder.
boulay
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"A court has heard"...Per The Telegraph:Nothing new here. In fact, £140 million is a fraction of the loans to that one developer. Maybe the court case will make it more prominent to voters but I'm hundreds of miles away. Anyway, here is the Telegraph story if anyone wants to read it and possibly change their bets:-
"Andy Burnham’s Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) used a “deeply flawed” analysis to justify £140m in loans to a skyscraper tycoon, a court has heard.
The Mayor’s authority has been accused of failing to carry out basic checks on property developer Daren Whitaker before approving loans worth roughly half of its public housing investment fund.
The legal challenge has been brought by Aubrey Weis, a rival developer, who argues the loans amounted to an unlawful subsidy for projects linked to Mr Whitaker."
Burnham ‘relied on deeply flawed analysis’ to pay out skyscraper loans
Developer accuses Mayor’s authority of bypassing basic checks before approving £140m fund
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/01a9fcc213c566e4
Gift link so no paywall.
From a rival developer who didn't land the contract.
Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
Perhaps people should ask for their money back.Eh?You do not think users should be able to choose what they want to see, and block what they do not want under your "chronological only" rule? Would you apply "chronological only" to other media? Newspapers would become unreadable, as would medical journals. It sounds fine but it completely ignores reality.The simple solution to most of our Social Media related woes is to make any platform that uses an alogorithm other than chronological liable as any other media publisher. It would cut them down to size very quickly if they didn't shape up.That’s a fair argument, that it’s the same as a newspaper endorsement coming from the proprietor or editorial team. But what if they’re foreigners widely read in the UK.Elon Musk is retweeting Rupert Lowe again:Eh?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2064396727344320767
Musk’s comment:
Only Restore Britain can save Britain.
It is the only way.
That’s a nakedly partisan political comment to someone with likely several million UK followers, during a restricted election period.
Will one of the other parties ask for a ruling from the Electoral Commission on what might be the value of such posts, if they need to be included in by-election spending, and ask Lowe to produce any communications he may have had with Mr Musk?
So if Lord Sugar or Tony Robinson or other celebs who've endorsed Labour in the past make naked partisan comments, does that get counted against their budget?
Many ways to criticise Musk and Restore, but celebrities making comments is neither new nor actionable surely?
There’s plenty of both positives and negatives about Mr Lowe, but I was thinking it’s an issue that hasnn’t come up before, so might be worthy of somebody getting a ruling on what is or isn’t allowed.
Back in the day, on Facebook, say, your feed would be a reverse chronological order of posts by the people whose posts you wanted to see. That would be it. Same with twitter. And then you could actively search for other things, such as posts about a subject or place you were interested in.
Then the social media companies started using algorithms to curate what they showed you, so they'd shove all this crap in front of you that you hadn't chosen to see, but that would annoy you and keep you scrolling for longer, while you tried to find the posts from the people you wanted to follow.
The whole point is that social media is now a space where an algorithm edits your experience, in the same way that a newspaper edits what news it presents, and so if they want to use an algorithm they should abide by the same rules as newspapers.
If they're only a neutral place for other people to do their own thing then they should not use algorithms to interfere in what you see.
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Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
I think Facebook makes about $80 of annual revenue for each of its daily users, mostly from selling ads shown to them, while those users are riled up to increase their engagement.Perhaps people should ask for their money back.Eh?You do not think users should be able to choose what they want to see, and block what they do not want under your "chronological only" rule? Would you apply "chronological only" to other media? Newspapers would become unreadable, as would medical journals. It sounds fine but it completely ignores reality.The simple solution to most of our Social Media related woes is to make any platform that uses an alogorithm other than chronological liable as any other media publisher. It would cut them down to size very quickly if they didn't shape up.That’s a fair argument, that it’s the same as a newspaper endorsement coming from the proprietor or editorial team. But what if they’re foreigners widely read in the UK.Elon Musk is retweeting Rupert Lowe again:Eh?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2064396727344320767
Musk’s comment:
Only Restore Britain can save Britain.
It is the only way.
That’s a nakedly partisan political comment to someone with likely several million UK followers, during a restricted election period.
Will one of the other parties ask for a ruling from the Electoral Commission on what might be the value of such posts, if they need to be included in by-election spending, and ask Lowe to produce any communications he may have had with Mr Musk?
So if Lord Sugar or Tony Robinson or other celebs who've endorsed Labour in the past make naked partisan comments, does that get counted against their budget?
Many ways to criticise Musk and Restore, but celebrities making comments is neither new nor actionable surely?
There’s plenty of both positives and negatives about Mr Lowe, but I was thinking it’s an issue that hasnn’t come up before, so might be worthy of somebody getting a ruling on what is or isn’t allowed.
Back in the day, on Facebook, say, your feed would be a reverse chronological order of posts by the people whose posts you wanted to see. That would be it. Same with twitter. And then you could actively search for other things, such as posts about a subject or place you were interested in.
Then the social media companies started using algorithms to curate what they showed you, so they'd shove all this crap in front of you that you hadn't chosen to see, but that would annoy you and keep you scrolling for longer, while you tried to find the posts from the people you wanted to follow.
The whole point is that social media is now a space where an algorithm edits your experience, in the same way that a newspaper edits what news it presents, and so if they want to use an algorithm they should abide by the same rules as newspapers.
If they're only a neutral place for other people to do their own thing then they should not use algorithms to interfere in what you see.
Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
Just spent a couple of days in Liverpool and, my goodness, the people there are fantastic.Who is this aimed at
Re: The latest Makerfield betting – politicalbetting.com
We'll see..Very little needed. How much gravitas did Truss or or Johnson have?Has Andy Burnham got the gravitas to be PM?Very Little Gravitas Indeed
I'm beginning to wonder.
Let alone Trump!
I am predicting this will become a talking point/issue in say twelve months time.
Not sure the whole mate of the Smiths/could have been a guitar player in Stone Roses is gonna be working by next year as we enter a world of shit over EL Nino/Trump/Putin/Hormuz/inflation.
Edit: One of the iron rules I have of politics is there is always an overcompensation the other way after a premiership.




