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Parts of the right commentariat are utterly losing their minds at the moment:



Allison Pearson
@AllisonPearson

Trump can make life v uncomfortable for Starmer.
I’d like to see the US impose a Lucy Connolly tariff.

Yes nothing screams "I love my country" more than seeking a foreign power to engage in a hostile act against it.

I don’t love this country any more

I despise what it has become

Surely this must include the despicables who have repeatedly voted for what this country has become?

The Brexit dividend seems to be acute dislike of the country taken back under control.

The judge in the Ricky Jones case


"Her Honour Judge Dean is listed as a Diversity and Community Relations Judge (DCRJ), a role that involves promoting diversity and community engagement in the judicial system.

"HHJ Dean covers the area around Snaresbrook Crown Court. She has also supported diversity efforts, such as assisting with visits from Diversity and Community Relations Magistrates at Harrow Crown Court. Additionally, her participation in events like the London Law Collective, where she delivered a keynote speech, highlights her role in inspiring diversity in the legal profession.

"Diversity and Community Relations Judges across England and Wales undertake a huge amount of community engagement in a voluntary capacity. They also seek to encourage legal professionals from under-represented groups to consider a judicial career."

https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/list-of-members-of-the-judiciary/diversity-and-community-relations-judges-list/


It was probably her wise and expert legal guidance in the field of diversity that allowed the jury to return a verdict of Not Guilty, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, in just thirty minutes

So you’re trashing the judge because because she committed the sin of doing some voluntary work to encourage under-represented groups to think of a judicial career . And that term which now seems to drive some people into having a meltdown “ diversity “.

The judge in the Ricky Jones case


"Her Honour Judge Dean is listed as a Diversity and Community Relations Judge (DCRJ), a role that involves promoting diversity and community engagement in the judicial system.

"HHJ Dean covers the area around Snaresbrook Crown Court. She has also supported diversity efforts, such as assisting with visits from Diversity and Community Relations Magistrates at Harrow Crown Court. Additionally, her participation in events like the London Law Collective, where she delivered a keynote speech, highlights her role in inspiring diversity in the legal profession.

"Diversity and Community Relations Judges across England and Wales undertake a huge amount of community engagement in a voluntary capacity. They also seek to encourage legal professionals from under-represented groups to consider a judicial career."

https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/list-of-members-of-the-judiciary/diversity-and-community-relations-judges-list/


It was probably her wise and expert legal guidance in the field of diversity that allowed the jury to return a verdict of Not Guilty, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, in just thirty minutes

Only if the jury were as stupid as you are.

How do you think they reached a verdict of Not Guilty in THIRTY MINUTES, given the undisputed video evidence of him doing exactly and precisely what he was accused of doing?

Yes, there is undisputed(*) evidence of what he said. It surely then becomes a case of whether what he said was against the law in the context. And IANAL (and neither are you...)

It sniffs like a wrong verdict to me, but it's hard to judge cases and jury verdicts without being in the courtroom.

(*) Did the defence actually dispute it?

Looks like Apple have released some special new kit. Competition for Leon’s analogue devices.

Parts of the right commentariat are utterly losing their minds at the moment:



Allison Pearson
@AllisonPearson

Trump can make life v uncomfortable for Starmer.
I’d like to see the US impose a Lucy Connolly tariff.

Yes nothing screams "I love my country" more than seeking a foreign power to engage in a hostile act against it.

I don’t love this country any more

I despise what it has become

Don’t be negative, it’s crappy at the moment, compared to some countries I can’t think of, maybe Denmark but they have high taxes and their women sound like drains when they talk whilst looking attractive.

You despise what it “has become” because you were living in periods where it was the best place to be.

I love the country, I love what it was and what it could be. It’s not great at the moment and could go down several bad routes but I live in hope someone with a brain will find a way back.

I still have a hankering to live in the UK, I have my eyes on a specific house and do consider it, even if for tax reasons I’m limited in time I can spend there. It’s still a great place with a lot of fun people, we don’t take ourselves too seriously. A lot of great pubs and restaurants, great culture, great free museums.

It’s shitty if you don’t have much but where is good if you don’t?

I’ve only lived in Switzerland and France so they are my only good true comparisons and god they have their faults too, and they speak French just to make it worse.

It’s still on the whole, a good place to be.

I've lived in Switzerland, Austria and Denmark for periods long enough to feel fairly rootless - on the whole I like Switzerland and Denmark most, because of their majority of people keen to make society work, in a way that one doesn't see frequently in the UK (or Austria). But so many other things decide where one lives, and I'm happy living in the UK, and puzzled by people who feel vehemently against it.

Again, for the hard of thinking, I despise the British STATE, and virtually all its workings and doings, its corrupted judiciary and its diseased government, all of that

I still like pubs, I still (generally) like and even love London, I have a very nice life, I haven't suddenly developed a hatred of oak trees, the Yorkshire dales, proper pies, Test cricket, the works of John Constable, views of the Inner Hebrides, Kilpeck church or Georgian architecture. I despise the state, I want it overturned, and I want peaceful but serious revenge

Evening all.
Reference the court case earlier, the jury have at least blessed the country with a new wave of loathing for Labour and Starmer.
And they don't even have '14 years' to worm their way out of it.

Don't get that at all - it was a jury verdict.

People may be upset about that but I don't see why they should blame the Government. They might blame the prosecution lawyer for not building a strong enough case.

most of the bad feeling isn’t for the outcome of this particaular case, but that this case appears to have been settled quite differently to a number of similar cases seen elsewhere.

Seems to me that the perception of 'two-tier' comes about through the vastly different results for someone who's savvy and has a lawyer compared to those for someone who isn't savvy and doesn't have immediate access to a lawyer.

Has there been any time in history that hasn't been true?

Evening all.
Reference the court case earlier, the jury have at least blessed the country with a new wave of loathing for Labour and Starmer.
And they don't even have '14 years' to worm their way out of it.

Don't get that at all - it was a jury verdict.

People may be upset about that but I don't see why they should blame the Government. They might blame the prosecution lawyer for not building a strong enough case.

most of the bad feeling isn’t for the outcome of this particaular case, but that this case appears to have been settled quite differently to a number of similar cases seen elsewhere.

Seems to me that the perception of 'two-tier' comes about through the vastly different results for someone who's savvy and has a lawyer compared to those for someone who isn't savvy and doesn't have immediate access to a lawyer.

Every police station has a duty solicitor if you want one

Re the trial of the Labour councillor acquitted of encouraging violent disorder at Snaresbrook Crown Court. Had be been tried by a jury at Basildon Crown Court I venture he may well have been found guilty.

That is one of the drawbacks of jury trial it can depend on where the jury is drawn from, especially if a political, racial or religious element. However to his credit Jacob Rees Mogg still accepts that as he believes in juries in principle even if he disagreed with verdicts like the slave owner statue damage acquittal in Bristol.

Shame Cleverly and Philp did not follow JRM but jumped on the populist bandwagon earlier before thinking through the logic of their comments ie that all trials should be judge only with no juries at Crown Court level.

Speaking of which JRM owns Cleverly and Philp.

'This is self-evidently not an example of two-tier justice as this Councillor was cleared by a jury. Lucy Connolly offered a guilty plea so did not have a jury trial, although she probably could have done had she pleaded not guilty.'
https://x.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1956379270445752482

Has he spoken to his great friend Nigel Farage about his view ?

Perhaps he will educate Nigel on thinking a bit more before he speaks?

The only difference is Farage is leading the narrative and the polls and JRM is some rich entitled ex mp

So? Hitler was leading in polls in 1930s Germany, doesn't mean he was right! Polls are not everything

And to Hitler, Poles were nothing.

They were an Oder race to him.

He wasn’t very Neisse to them that’s for sure.

Re the trial of the Labour councillor acquitted of encouraging violent disorder at Snaresbrook Crown Court. Had be been tried by a jury at Basildon Crown Court I venture he may well have been found guilty.

That is one of the drawbacks of jury trial it can depend on where the jury is drawn from, especially if a political, racial or religious element. However to his credit Jacob Rees Mogg still accepts that as he believes in juries in principle even if he disagreed with verdicts like the slave owner statue damage acquittal in Bristol.

Shame Cleverly and Philp did not follow JRM but jumped on the populist bandwagon earlier before thinking through the logic of their comments ie that all trials should be judge only with no juries at Crown Court level.

Speaking of which JRM owns Cleverly and Philp.

'This is self-evidently not an example of two-tier justice as this Councillor was cleared by a jury. Lucy Connolly offered a guilty plea so did not have a jury trial, although she probably could have done had she pleaded not guilty.'
https://x.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1956379270445752482

Has he spoken to his great friend Nigel Farage about his view ?

Perhaps he will educate Nigel on thinking a bit more before he speaks?

The only difference is Farage is leading the narrative and the polls and JRM is some rich entitled ex mp

So? Hitler was leading in polls in 1930s Germany, doesn't mean he was right! Polls are not everything

And to Hitler, Poles were nothing.

They were an Oder race to him.

He was Danzig in the streets when he was elected.

But he left Germany with one hell of a Hanover Gdańsk to his behaviour.

Re the trial of the Labour councillor acquitted of encouraging violent disorder at Snaresbrook Crown Court. Had be been tried by a jury at Basildon Crown Court I venture he may well have been found guilty.

That is one of the drawbacks of jury trial it can depend on where the jury is drawn from, especially if a political, racial or religious element. However to his credit Jacob Rees Mogg still accepts that as he believes in juries in principle even if he disagreed with verdicts like the slave owner statue damage acquittal in Bristol.

Shame Cleverly and Philp did not follow JRM but jumped on the populist bandwagon earlier before thinking through the logic of their comments ie that all trials should be judge only with no juries at Crown Court level.

Speaking of which JRM owns Cleverly and Philp.

'This is self-evidently not an example of two-tier justice as this Councillor was cleared by a jury. Lucy Connolly offered a guilty plea so did not have a jury trial, although she probably could have done had she pleaded not guilty.'
https://x.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1956379270445752482

Has he spoken to his great friend Nigel Farage about his view ?

Perhaps he will educate Nigel on thinking a bit more before he speaks?

The only difference is Farage is leading the narrative and the polls and JRM is some rich entitled ex mp

So? Hitler was leading in polls in 1930s Germany, doesn't mean he was right! Polls are not everything

You bring Hitler into the conversation and then add ' Polls are not everything'

Your whole existence on here is based on polls meaning everything

You can be very strange at times but then that not unique in life