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Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
Was wondering the same. Sandpit must be spending a lot of time arguing with himself.I still can't work out how @sandpit can square his circle of Trump being one of the good guys whilst Trump is dumping all over Ukraine.Sandpit, you are going full Plato.Finally.The same Obama who, in 2012, sued the state of Arizona in order to establish federal supremacy of immigration law in the Supreme Court. That Obama?
Barack Obama
@BarackObama
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The killing of Alex Pretti is a heartbreaking tragedy. It should also be a wake-up call to every American, regardless of party, that many of our core values as a nation are increasingly under assault.
https://x.com/BarackObama/status/2015479691147149747
Perhaps he’d be better off telling Tim Walz to stand down the Antifa goons and obey the law like the other 49 states do.
Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
It's crazy how stubborn the LD voteshare of around 8-13% is.Lord Hayward on VoteUK forum:With Greens now favourites to win the byelection, it looks to me that Ladbrokes 15/2 on Greens taking the lead in a poll in 2026 quite good value.
"I have received Lord Ashcroft's latest data but, as far as I can see, without percentages expressed. After an enjoyable Sunday lunch I have calculated the percentages as:-
Ref 25 =
Con 21 -1
Lab 18 =
Grn 18 -1
LD 11 +1
Please correct as appropriate."
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/10136/oh-lordy-big-ashcroft-poll?page=8
kle4
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Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
Her's is a pink Range Rover.I thought that pink Cayenne belonged to Jordan.Twitter rumour: Simon Danczuk to stand for Reform.Fun fact, I've met his ex-wife, in the Malmaison in Piccadilly.
That would make a RefUK win much less likely.
Another fun fact, I've spent a lot of time in Levenshulme, had an ex from there, I kept on being mistaken for a drug dealer when I visited there due to the vehicle I drove at the time.
Third fun fact, at that time, my choice of vehicles is even more ostentatious than my footwear.
I had the silverish Porsche Cayenne Turbo.
Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
Also, Eden, Chamberlain, etc etcThe idea that PMs are somehow immune to challenge from in their party and it's undemocratic/evil to do so, is ridiculous.You seem to have taken this politics thing really badly?He's sold his lie to the remaining PB Tories. I can't understand how or why? Oh wait, you said what? "They also fell for Johnson's BS". Oh right.The problem with his statement is that it's obviously not true. If he had really wanted to avoid the 'divisive politics of Reform' he would have announced he wasn't seeking the nomination. If he had actually been genuinely interested in standing to get back into Parliament as a hefty figure who might be able to help out,* but not damage the Labour party, or Starmer, he could have sounded out the NEC privately about their views.Lord Hayward on VoteUK forum:The Gold Standard.
"I have received Lord Ashcroft's latest data but, as far as I can see, without percentages expressed. After an enjoyable Sunday lunch I have calculated the percentages as:-
Ref 25 =
Con 21 -1
Lab 18 =
Grn 18 -1
LD 11 +1
Please correct as appropriate."
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/10136/oh-lordy-big-ashcroft-poll?page=8I am not and haven't been defending Starmer all weekend. Burnham should have been allowed to stand and then hopefully crushed in Gorton and Denton.It is basically Burnham to blame for Starmer being a blank firing bollockGreat 12D chess I am sure. But it just makes Burnham look like a Jenrickian tw@t.Translation: I expect Reform to win and I will dump all the blame on Kier Starmer when it happens.It's been 14 mins and Andy Burnham still hasn't published part II, this is why he isn't fit to be an MP and the NEC were right to block him.Just appeared now
I am disappointed by today’s NEC decision and concerned about its potential impact on the important elections ahead of us.
To whoever is Labour’s candidate and to our members in Manchester and Tameside: you will have my full support and I will be there whenever you need me.
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https://x.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/2015480192093831340
Tomorrow I return with full focus to my role as Mayor of GM, defending everything we have built in our city-region over many years.
I decided to put myself forward to prevent the divisive politics of Reform from damaging that. We are stronger together and let’s stay that way. 💪🏻
Burnham was humbled in September. In the last 24 hours he's humbled himself and Starmer.
The only reason for doing what he did in the way he did was to damage Starmer and cause a crisis.
Trouble is, he's damaged himself too.
*Yeah, we have come to this.
Or are we to say that the oustings of Thatcher, Blair, Johnson and Truss were wrong?
Foxy
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Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
I tipped that at 10/1 #LegendaryModestyKlaxonLord Hayward on VoteUK forum:With Greens now favourites to win the byelection, it looks to me that Ladbrokes 15/2 on Greens taking the lead in a poll in 2026 quite good value.
"I have received Lord Ashcroft's latest data but, as far as I can see, without percentages expressed. After an enjoyable Sunday lunch I have calculated the percentages as:-
Ref 25 =
Con 21 -1
Lab 18 =
Grn 18 -1
LD 11 +1
Please correct as appropriate."
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/10136/oh-lordy-big-ashcroft-poll?page=8
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2026/01/01/a-10-1-and-a-6-1-tip-to-start-your-new-year/
Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
Lord Hayward on VoteUK forum:With Greens now favourites to win the byelection, it looks to me that Ladbrokes 15/2 on Greens taking the lead in a poll in 2026 quite good value.
"I have received Lord Ashcroft's latest data but, as far as I can see, without percentages expressed. After an enjoyable Sunday lunch I have calculated the percentages as:-
Ref 25 =
Con 21 -1
Lab 18 =
Grn 18 -1
LD 11 +1
Please correct as appropriate."
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/10136/oh-lordy-big-ashcroft-poll?page=8
Foxy
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Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
Shame. A better job of faking his style than most.Although it sounds like something he'd say, it's a fake postYes President Trump isn't all bad. He has come out in favour of gun control.Yeah they just elected a proper commie there. Doesn’t believe people should own property.Most Definitely! Spoke to a friend this morning who has deliberately avoided visiting New York on her way to her daughter's place in Canada. She and her husband quite fancied a short break in New York, and they still want to go, but say they won't do so for the forseeable future. On a walk with friends last Friday the discussion also turned to ways in which they could boycott US goods and services, as well as avoiding visiting there.My friends and acquaintances provide plenty of anecdotal evidence of a reluctance to travel to the States. Anybody else come across similar?The Trumpdozer effect.Those graphs are nearly a year old.
Europeans travelling to the US falling off a cliff.
https://x.com/ianbremmer/status/2015397168987697528?s=61
(FWIW these people are all retired professionals, well educated, with families and civic responsibilties. One family votes Labour, the other Green or Labour.)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-fake-trump-post-174823445.html
kle4
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Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
I thought that pink Cayenne belonged to Jordan.Twitter rumour: Simon Danczuk to stand for Reform.Fun fact, I've met his ex-wife, in the Malmaison in Piccadilly.
That would make a RefUK win much less likely.
Another fun fact, I've spent a lot of time in Levenshulme, had an ex from there, I kept on being mistaken for a drug dealer when I visited there due to the vehicle I drove at the time.
Third fun fact, at that time, my choice of vehicles is even more ostentatious than my footwear.
Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
I think the Gorton by election will be a close run thing.
I do not think Labour will be in the horse race.
Burnham would have won it I reckon.
I do not think Labour will be in the horse race.
Burnham would have won it I reckon.
Pulpstar
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Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
Sandpit, you are going full Plato.Finally.The same Obama who, in 2012, sued the state of Arizona in order to establish federal supremacy of immigration law in the Supreme Court. That Obama?
Barack Obama
@BarackObama
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1h
The killing of Alex Pretti is a heartbreaking tragedy. It should also be a wake-up call to every American, regardless of party, that many of our core values as a nation are increasingly under assault.
https://x.com/BarackObama/status/2015479691147149747
Perhaps he’d be better off telling Tim Walz to stand down the Antifa goons and obey the law like the other 49 states do.
bondegezou
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