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Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
One of my best friend’s 100 year old mother died on Tuesday night, I confess I let out a sob when he called to tell me.I think this should be an annual event. A day in summer PBers should talk about when and why they last criedIn fairness, it wasn't an unreasonable conclusion to jump to without a careful reading of the post and/or particularly detailed knowledge of Leon's back story.LOL, Trump has got the USAF lining up F22s to meet Putin.I’ll deny it.
https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1956416191678820441
Difficult to deny he’s showing his strength to the enemy.
He’s a raddled old twat showing his pectoral implants to another raddled old twat. In Bone Spurs’ head the USAF is him.Sorry. I assumed your daughter was both you and your ex wife’s joint offspring. I should have read your post more closely. (Checks personal IQ and finds failures.)Er, what? Thanks for replying but this was my ex wife’s sketch pad. Nothing to do with my kids (which is a sadness in itself but another story)Ever so slightly off topic, I was clearing out a corner of my flat this afternoon. 20 years of accumulated crap. Mostly meaningless. Admin. Paperwork. A useless printer. All purged. YayGive it to your daughter and ask her to deal with it as she deems fit. If you want to keep it, drop hints to that effect.
But then suddenly I came across a sketch book that belonged to my ex wife (who I loved very much and only split with coz she wanted babies and I didn’t). It was full of her crazy funny eccentric drawings - even pages embroidered with wool. The epic of Gilgamesh in crayon. All her creativity and wit and uniqueness in o one pad of paper
And I sat there and, I confess, I slightly cried. Just a few manly tears but they were real
What is that? I was perfectly content - happy even. Then suddenly a land mine of emotion and memory exploded in my face and I was plunged into intense sadness
What is the psychology? The evolutionary explanation for these emotions? Very strange
It’s gone now. I’m fine again. But wow
It’s the mystery of consciousness. How can molecules and atoms - meat and blood - get together and make memory that makes “sadness” that makes salt water run down my face? And why? What’s the evolutionary purpose? To discourage divorce?!
And these are thoughts, not even thoughts in the moment - memories of previous thoughts….
I cried unexpectedly too today. I was (because they asked) telling the girls the story of our miscarriage before our eldest was born, and suddenly all the rawness of it came back. All is fiine now of course, and if we hadn't lost that one we wouldn't have the ones we have now - but no way of knowing that at the time.
Anyway, keeping it light, I've had a splendid day. Llandudno is wonderful. Like, I imagine, British seaside towns used to be - but somehow hasn't been killed off by cheap trips abroad like others have. And its setting is magical. The Great Orme derives its name from 'worm' in its ancient sense of wingless dragon, and I can completely see why.
Not obligatory but a nice contrast to the macho geekery
Also sorry to hear your story, glad it turned out ok in so many ways!
I cry at episodes of Car SOS nowadays though.
Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
It depends on the year. https://coinhunter.co.uk/year/How much is a shiny (=mint condition) sixpence worth nowadays?Stubbornness isn't consistent with a 30 minute verdict. Given the timeframe, it's pretty likely that they were all agreed.You only need 3 jurors to say 'Not Guilty, you can't change my mind" to guarantee an acquittal (or a retrial in specific situations)Even in Labour Walthamstow what are the chances that all 12 jury members would all be left-wingers? Even in the Colston Four trial there was 1 jury member who wanted them found guilty.The judge in the Ricky Jones caseNo, it was probably the fact the jury was from overwhelmingly Labour Walthamstow. Had the jury been from say heavily Reform Basildon the verdict may have been different.
"Her Honour Judge Dean is listed as a Diversity and Community Relations Judge (DCRJ), a role that involves promoting diversity and community engagement in the judicial system.
"HHJ Dean covers the area around Snaresbrook Crown Court. She has also supported diversity efforts, such as assisting with visits from Diversity and Community Relations Magistrates at Harrow Crown Court. Additionally, her participation in events like the London Law Collective, where she delivered a keynote speech, highlights her role in inspiring diversity in the legal profession.
"Diversity and Community Relations Judges across England and Wales undertake a huge amount of community engagement in a voluntary capacity. They also seek to encourage legal professionals from under-represented groups to consider a judicial career."
https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/list-of-members-of-the-judiciary/diversity-and-community-relations-judges-list/
It was probably her wise and expert legal guidance in the field of diversity that allowed the jury to return a verdict of Not Guilty, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, in just thirty minutes
Judges in criminal trials normally sentence on the law and guidelines whatever their political views
So the jury in the Jones case might have had just three stubborn individuals. And if there was bias, it might have been due to ethnicity rather than politics (but we don't know in this instance, of course)
I posted evidence earlier of racial bias in jurors in the USA. Black American jurors are far more likely to acquit black defendants than white defendants, whereas white jurors show little bias. It would be interesting to find out if there is a similar pattern in the UK
And given the different histories of racism in the UK and USA, a shiny sixpence says that the racial bias issue among juries is less of an effect here than there.
Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
Yesterday was emotional for the whole family as our eldest got his A level results, but the most remarkable, and touching, thing was his little 11 year old sister who went in with him to the hall of envelopes and emerged weeping profusely while clinging to his arm.Were his results that bad or impossible for her to match?

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Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
I'd fight.I love my country, and I'd like to think if we were in a WW2, or even WW1, situation, then I would volunteer. If they'd have me...
I love my country.
But would I fight for my country *whatever the cause*? I'd hope not, if (say) the government was fascist, or communist, or the cause was, in my view, unjust. But plenty of good Germans fought for Hitler, despite the cause being rather dubious, to say the least. And there are probably lots of normally 'good' Russians fighting an unjust war for their country in Ukraine.
Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
That probably counts me out. The popular computer game in my day was Moon Landing and I crashed every time.I'd fight.Can you fly a drone? That would appear to be the key skill needed.
I love my country.

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Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
Yesterday was emotional for the whole family as our eldest got his A level results, but the most remarkable, and touching, thing was his little 11 year old sister who went in with him to the hall of envelopes and emerged weeping profusely while clinging to his arm.

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Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
It's 12 years for me and Mrs Casino this weekend.Jeez, what’ve you been convicted of?
Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
How much is a shiny (=mint condition) sixpence worth nowadays?Stubbornness isn't consistent with a 30 minute verdict. Given the timeframe, it's pretty likely that they were all agreed.You only need 3 jurors to say 'Not Guilty, you can't change my mind" to guarantee an acquittal (or a retrial in specific situations)Even in Labour Walthamstow what are the chances that all 12 jury members would all be left-wingers? Even in the Colston Four trial there was 1 jury member who wanted them found guilty.The judge in the Ricky Jones caseNo, it was probably the fact the jury was from overwhelmingly Labour Walthamstow. Had the jury been from say heavily Reform Basildon the verdict may have been different.
"Her Honour Judge Dean is listed as a Diversity and Community Relations Judge (DCRJ), a role that involves promoting diversity and community engagement in the judicial system.
"HHJ Dean covers the area around Snaresbrook Crown Court. She has also supported diversity efforts, such as assisting with visits from Diversity and Community Relations Magistrates at Harrow Crown Court. Additionally, her participation in events like the London Law Collective, where she delivered a keynote speech, highlights her role in inspiring diversity in the legal profession.
"Diversity and Community Relations Judges across England and Wales undertake a huge amount of community engagement in a voluntary capacity. They also seek to encourage legal professionals from under-represented groups to consider a judicial career."
https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/list-of-members-of-the-judiciary/diversity-and-community-relations-judges-list/
It was probably her wise and expert legal guidance in the field of diversity that allowed the jury to return a verdict of Not Guilty, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, in just thirty minutes
Judges in criminal trials normally sentence on the law and guidelines whatever their political views
So the jury in the Jones case might have had just three stubborn individuals. And if there was bias, it might have been due to ethnicity rather than politics (but we don't know in this instance, of course)
I posted evidence earlier of racial bias in jurors in the USA. Black American jurors are far more likely to acquit black defendants than white defendants, whereas white jurors show little bias. It would be interesting to find out if there is a similar pattern in the UK
And given the different histories of racism in the UK and USA, a shiny sixpence says that the racial bias issue among juries is less of an effect here than there.

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Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
Credit where it's due - flying a B-2 right over Putin's head is good fun. I've doubled the chances of a good outcome for Ukraine from 1% to 2%.
https://x.com/Scavino47/status/1956435635818070211
https://x.com/Scavino47/status/1956435635818070211

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Re: 44% of the public are liars, in fact 59% of them are liars once you add Don't Knows
Four years and nine months ago on my own seeing my father in the funeral home in his coffin where I couldn’t conceive that he was him. Will never cry again because nothing else will be worth crying over.I think this should be an annual event. A day in summer PBers should talk about when and why they last criedIn fairness, it wasn't an unreasonable conclusion to jump to without a careful reading of the post and/or particularly detailed knowledge of Leon's back story.LOL, Trump has got the USAF lining up F22s to meet Putin.I’ll deny it.
https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1956416191678820441
Difficult to deny he’s showing his strength to the enemy.
He’s a raddled old twat showing his pectoral implants to another raddled old twat. In Bone Spurs’ head the USAF is him.Sorry. I assumed your daughter was both you and your ex wife’s joint offspring. I should have read your post more closely. (Checks personal IQ and finds failures.)Er, what? Thanks for replying but this was my ex wife’s sketch pad. Nothing to do with my kids (which is a sadness in itself but another story)Ever so slightly off topic, I was clearing out a corner of my flat this afternoon. 20 years of accumulated crap. Mostly meaningless. Admin. Paperwork. A useless printer. All purged. YayGive it to your daughter and ask her to deal with it as she deems fit. If you want to keep it, drop hints to that effect.
But then suddenly I came across a sketch book that belonged to my ex wife (who I loved very much and only split with coz she wanted babies and I didn’t). It was full of her crazy funny eccentric drawings - even pages embroidered with wool. The epic of Gilgamesh in crayon. All her creativity and wit and uniqueness in o one pad of paper
And I sat there and, I confess, I slightly cried. Just a few manly tears but they were real
What is that? I was perfectly content - happy even. Then suddenly a land mine of emotion and memory exploded in my face and I was plunged into intense sadness
What is the psychology? The evolutionary explanation for these emotions? Very strange
It’s gone now. I’m fine again. But wow
It’s the mystery of consciousness. How can molecules and atoms - meat and blood - get together and make memory that makes “sadness” that makes salt water run down my face? And why? What’s the evolutionary purpose? To discourage divorce?!
And these are thoughts, not even thoughts in the moment - memories of previous thoughts….
I cried unexpectedly too today. I was (because they asked) telling the girls the story of our miscarriage before our eldest was born, and suddenly all the rawness of it came back. All is fiine now of course, and if we hadn't lost that one we wouldn't have the ones we have now - but no way of knowing that at the time.
Anyway, keeping it light, I've had a splendid day. Llandudno is wonderful. Like, I imagine, British seaside towns used to be - but somehow hasn't been killed off by cheap trips abroad like others have. And its setting is magical. The Great Orme derives its name from 'worm' in its ancient sense of wingless dragon, and I can completely see why.
Not obligatory but a nice contrast to the macho geekery
Also sorry to hear your story, glad it turned out ok in so many ways!

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