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Sorry for the name dropping but two MPs from different sides (one government/one opposition) tell me the Parliament Act shithousery won't work.
The third reading only passed by 23 votes, they'd expect a swing from the assisted dying side to the other side even before the shithousery, so it won't pass the in the Commons again.
The third reading only passed by 23 votes, they'd expect a swing from the assisted dying side to the other side even before the shithousery, so it won't pass the in the Commons again.
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We're in the Salisbury-Addison convention territory now.The 1911Act, a mended by the Parliament Act 1949, which reduced the Lords' delaying power to one year, makes no mention of a manifesto pledge. That's just made up.But that's with commitments in the government's manifesto, this not a manifesto pledge, this would be as scandalous as the prorogation crisis.This is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
It is scandalous that the unelected body can frustrate the will of Parliament and of the large majority of voters. And it's a small minority in that unelected body that is doing the delaying.
The public support the death penalty in certain circumstances but I'm not seeing you advocate that.
I am sure you'd be raging if a Reform government tried this kind of shithousery with the death penalty.
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The 1911Act, a mended by the Parliament Act 1949, which reduced the Lords' delaying power to one year, makes no mention of a manifesto pledge. That's just made up.But that's with commitments in the government's manifesto, this not a manifesto pledge, this would be as scandalous as the prorogation crisis.This is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
It is scandalous that the unelected body can frustrate the will of Parliament and of the large majority of voters. And it's a small minority in that unelected body that is doing the delaying.
Re: Please exercise caution with this Find Out Now poll – politicalbetting.com
I don't think the 1911 Act says anything about private members bills - one way or the other. It uses the words 'public bills'.This is a private members bill not a manifesto pledgeThis is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
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According to the Guardian, the answer is no.Has it ever been used on a PMB?But that's with commitments in the government's manifesto, this not a manifesto pledge, this would be as scandalous as the prorogation crisis.This is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
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Has it ever been used on a PMB?But that's with commitments in the government's manifesto, this not a manifesto pledge, this would be as scandalous as the prorogation crisis.This is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
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Re: Please exercise caution with this Find Out Now poll – politicalbetting.com
This is a private members bill not a manifesto pledgeThis is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
Re: Please exercise caution with this Find Out Now poll – politicalbetting.com
I think you are conflating with the Salisbury convention - the lords doesn’t block manifesto commitmentsI thought the convention was that it would only be invoked on things in the government's manifesto - to avoid parties doing radical things with no consent.This is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
Re: Please exercise caution with this Find Out Now poll – politicalbetting.com
Wahay. I did Labour at a ludicrous 7 and can now lay back at 3.3. Which I will. Rude not to.
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Re: Please exercise caution with this Find Out Now poll – politicalbetting.com
This is a mistake.Is it? The 1911 act is precisely there to stop the Lords being undemocratic.
Assisted dying supporters ‘to force through bill with archaic Commons procedure’
Exclusive: MPs backing bill to use ‘nuclear option’ of 1911 Parliament Act if it continues to be blocked by Lords
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/28/assisted-dying-supporters-to-force-through-bill-with-archaic-commons-procedure
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