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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
It may well be about saving money.Not just chairs but desks too. As the tweet makes clear.Why are HMRC spending £11m on office furniture?Because it has 60,000 staff and £160 a chair is good value?
https://x.com/lnallalingham/status/2003029277759979530
If you have staff sitting at a desk x hours a day, then you have an obligation to provide furniture that protects the staff against bad back, RSI etc.
Plenty of companies have been sued and had to make large settlements for this.
One reason for the popularity of the Herman Miller Aeron chairs in offices, was that they provided a bulletproof protection against such claims - “We spent over a thousand per person on buying the most ergonomic chairs on the planet”. I was told, by an HR person, that buying them meant that the company insurance policy against such things was a fraction of what it otherwise would be.
So you get expensive chairs, monitor arms (easy adjustment) and the latest - the powered, adjustable height desks.
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
The details of the contract are going to matter here. Is this 11 million for a one off complete refurb of all offices? Or is it 11m to provide new desks and chairs and replace broken ones "on demand" over the next five years? Is it a one off up front payment, or in installments over years? This could be a great value for money deal, or it could be spaffing money up the wall on something that didn't even need replacing -- we can't tell merely from "it costs 11 million".It’s not that some of them need new furniture, it’s that they’re spending £11m on one order for furniture. Surely they’re not buying a desk and chair for their whole staff all at the same time?Why are HMRC spending £11m on office furniture?Er, HMRC have loads of offices and will sometimes need new furniture. You're not expecting people to work on the floor are you?
https://x.com/lnallalingham/status/2003029277759979530
What a weird thing to complain about.
(As it happens it looks like it's a two year contract: https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/Notice/c2ebc7d5-e787-4fd4-95ec-133629f52f74 )
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
There’s a lot of new government hubs opening around the country and older offices being sold. Would make total sense to do a lot at once in that context, and who knows when the legacy estate was last done.It’s not that some of them need new furniture, it’s that they’re spending £11m on one order for furniture. Surely they’re not buying a desk and chair for their whole staff all at the same time?Why are HMRC spending £11m on office furniture?Er, HMRC have loads of offices and will sometimes need new furniture. You're not expecting people to work on the floor are you?
https://x.com/lnallalingham/status/2003029277759979530
What a weird thing to complain about.
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Once the true facts of Buggate emerge, the SNP are finished.Morning HYUFD,I suspect Labour will actually get about 20%, win London overall still and do better than expected in Scotland where Holyrood polls suggest Labour gains from the SNP as in the Hamilton by election. That will stop a bad night for Starmer becoming a catastrophe and may save his jobLabour won a NEV of 35% in 2022, and will probably win about 10-15% in May. Reform won nothing in 2022, and will probably win 25-30% next year. The Greens would surge, but the traditional outperformance in local elections by the Lib Dem’s will take a lot of votes that would otherwise go to them. The Conservatives will probably win 20-25%, compared to 30% in 2022.I think it depends on how desperate Labour becomes, which itself depends on how catastrophic the local elections are. If Labour has a true mare - for example losing control of London Boroughs which they currently run with large majorities - then switching to Streeting might be on the cards. The one caveat is if the big winner in the cities happens to be the Greens, Labour members might conclude that being more radical and passionate and tacking left is what's required.There's a lot of engineering him into position I think, and Starmer is clearly on board - not sure how else someone openly campaigning for the top job is still in the Cabinet. He is the annointed successor - and always was.Doubt he is anointed. There was number 10 briefing against him about a month ago.
For that reason, I don't think he makes it.
IMO wouldn't be surprised if Starmer sacks him, says he needs to bring someone in to end the strikes.
What that likely means is Labour being hit on multiple fronts.
Boroughs like Barnsley, Wakefield, Sunderland, Halton, Sandwell, Thurrock will go Reform.
Islington, Hackney, Camden, Lambeth, Birmingham, Southwark, Brent, South Tyneside, will be lost to NOC at least (Your Party will also be challenging in some).
The Tories will lose a string of counties and new unitaries to Reform, but pick up Westminster, Barnet, Wandsworth,
And of course, the results in Wales and Scotland will be horrid.
Otherwise agree with Reform and the Greens likely the main winners next year plus Plaid in Wales and the LDs treading water as the Tories and Labour collapse
I'm not so bullish over Labour in Scotland, they aren't polling as well as pre Hamilton, recent by elections in working class areas were poor for them. Right now they are losing voters to Reform and only slightly more competitive in white collar areas, and they are up against a party with only 1 MSP and effectively no Scottish leader.
Sarwar needs a very clear message and to take the fight on all flanks, to Reform, SNP and the wider electorate. It's easier said than done. He is going hard on the NHS, but needs to attack the SNPs record more. I don't share the view that Labour are heading for multiple gains over the SNP, they have both dropped, but Slabs vote has been squeezed more. Mr Starmer could find himself in big trouble once the votes are all counted up here. It all could change though
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
This is an sad case in Edinburgh: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-dad-paralysed-after-horror-36433511They used wanton and furious driving in this caseSince when has death by dangerous cycling, death by careless cycling or serious injury by dangerous or careless cycling been UK law for cyclists unlike the equivalent death or serious injury offences by dangerous or careless driving for drivers of vehicles?Mark Pack is standing down as Lib Dem President from January 1st, so he will have more time on his hands (as if!).One would think the ID card Bill, and rejoining the EU moving the agenda, are both in the LibDem’s favour?Mark Pack is a good scout and he has been dutifully recording the LD's ups and downs since the GE. It's been generally a pattern of modest progress, and I would expect that to continue through the May contests.You may see some LD gains from the Tories, Labour and SNP but offset by some LD losses to the Greens and Reform and PlaidWith both Tories and Labour down, I'd be surprised and disappointed if the LDs just tread water. National opinion polls during the 2022 local campaign period had Labour on around 40%, the Tories on around 34%, with the LDs at 10%. The political situation now is hugely better for the LDs in relation to both the major parties, notwithstanding Reform's huge surge from just 5% back then.I suspect Labour will actually get about 20%, win London overall still and do better than expected in Scotland where Holyrood polls suggest Labour gains from the SNP as in the Hamilton by election. That will stop a bad night for Starmer becoming a catastrophe and may save his jobLabour won a NEV of 35% in 2022, and will probably win about 10-15% in May. Reform won nothing in 2022, and will probably win 25-30% next year. The Greens would surge, but the traditional outperformance in local elections by the Lib Dem’s will take a lot of votes that would otherwise go to them. The Conservatives will probably win 20-25%, compared to 30% in 2022.I think it depends on how desperate Labour becomes, which itself depends on how catastrophic the local elections are. If Labour has a true mare - for example losing control of London Boroughs which they currently run with large majorities - then switching to Streeting might be on the cards. The one caveat is if the big winner in the cities happens to be the Greens, Labour members might conclude that being more radical and passionate and tacking left is what's required.There's a lot of engineering him into position I think, and Starmer is clearly on board - not sure how else someone openly campaigning for the top job is still in the Cabinet. He is the annointed successor - and always was.Doubt he is anointed. There was number 10 briefing against him about a month ago.
For that reason, I don't think he makes it.
IMO wouldn't be surprised if Starmer sacks him, says he needs to bring someone in to end the strikes.
What that likely means is Labour being hit on multiple fronts.
Boroughs like Barnsley, Wakefield, Sunderland, Halton, Sandwell, Thurrock will go Reform.
Islington, Hackney, Camden, Lambeth, Birmingham, Southwark, Brent, South Tyneside, will be lost to NOC at least (Your Party will also be challenging in some).
The Tories will lose a string of counties and new unitaries to Reform, but pick up Westminster, Barnet, Wandsworth,
And of course, the results in Wales and Scotland will be horrid.
Otherwise agree with Reform and the Greens likely the main winners next year plus Plaid in Wales and the LDs treading water as the Tories and Labour collapse
I hope to engage him in suggesting ways in which members of the House of Lords can be held to account when they waste the time of the HoL repeatedly spouting inane bollocks into the national conversation, displaying the hinterland of a lobotomised slug.
(That follows a particular recent debate on aspects of 'cycling' where there were peers reading out bits of the Telegraph, and proposing amendments to introduce laws that have already been in law for nearly half a century already.)
Where a dozy woman was looking at her phone and walked out on the road and the guy was using a not road legal bike.
I had a little sympathy for the cyclist. She should be paying attention when crossing the road.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41028321
It's why I always cycle in the centre of the lane in the middle of the city. I don't know if there are criminal proceedings against the woman - not sure if that is even possible.
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
That’s a truly awful case. Where I cycle I’m always wary of pedestrians and dog walkers. Off road provision is decent here. I’ve had more problems with pedestrians and being chased by uncontrolled dogs than I’ve ever had with cars.This is an sad case in Edinburgh: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-dad-paralysed-after-horror-36433511They used wanton and furious driving in this caseSince when has death by dangerous cycling, death by careless cycling or serious injury by dangerous or careless cycling been UK law for cyclists unlike the equivalent death or serious injury offences by dangerous or careless driving for drivers of vehicles?Mark Pack is standing down as Lib Dem President from January 1st, so he will have more time on his hands (as if!).One would think the ID card Bill, and rejoining the EU moving the agenda, are both in the LibDem’s favour?Mark Pack is a good scout and he has been dutifully recording the LD's ups and downs since the GE. It's been generally a pattern of modest progress, and I would expect that to continue through the May contests.You may see some LD gains from the Tories, Labour and SNP but offset by some LD losses to the Greens and Reform and PlaidWith both Tories and Labour down, I'd be surprised and disappointed if the LDs just tread water. National opinion polls during the 2022 local campaign period had Labour on around 40%, the Tories on around 34%, with the LDs at 10%. The political situation now is hugely better for the LDs in relation to both the major parties, notwithstanding Reform's huge surge from just 5% back then.I suspect Labour will actually get about 20%, win London overall still and do better than expected in Scotland where Holyrood polls suggest Labour gains from the SNP as in the Hamilton by election. That will stop a bad night for Starmer becoming a catastrophe and may save his jobLabour won a NEV of 35% in 2022, and will probably win about 10-15% in May. Reform won nothing in 2022, and will probably win 25-30% next year. The Greens would surge, but the traditional outperformance in local elections by the Lib Dem’s will take a lot of votes that would otherwise go to them. The Conservatives will probably win 20-25%, compared to 30% in 2022.I think it depends on how desperate Labour becomes, which itself depends on how catastrophic the local elections are. If Labour has a true mare - for example losing control of London Boroughs which they currently run with large majorities - then switching to Streeting might be on the cards. The one caveat is if the big winner in the cities happens to be the Greens, Labour members might conclude that being more radical and passionate and tacking left is what's required.There's a lot of engineering him into position I think, and Starmer is clearly on board - not sure how else someone openly campaigning for the top job is still in the Cabinet. He is the annointed successor - and always was.Doubt he is anointed. There was number 10 briefing against him about a month ago.
For that reason, I don't think he makes it.
IMO wouldn't be surprised if Starmer sacks him, says he needs to bring someone in to end the strikes.
What that likely means is Labour being hit on multiple fronts.
Boroughs like Barnsley, Wakefield, Sunderland, Halton, Sandwell, Thurrock will go Reform.
Islington, Hackney, Camden, Lambeth, Birmingham, Southwark, Brent, South Tyneside, will be lost to NOC at least (Your Party will also be challenging in some).
The Tories will lose a string of counties and new unitaries to Reform, but pick up Westminster, Barnet, Wandsworth,
And of course, the results in Wales and Scotland will be horrid.
Otherwise agree with Reform and the Greens likely the main winners next year plus Plaid in Wales and the LDs treading water as the Tories and Labour collapse
I hope to engage him in suggesting ways in which members of the House of Lords can be held to account when they waste the time of the HoL repeatedly spouting inane bollocks into the national conversation, displaying the hinterland of a lobotomised slug.
(That follows a particular recent debate on aspects of 'cycling' where there were peers reading out bits of the Telegraph, and proposing amendments to introduce laws that have already been in law for nearly half a century already.)
Where a dozy woman was looking at her phone and walked out on the road and the guy was using a not road legal bike.
I had a little sympathy for the cyclist. She should be paying attention when crossing the road.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41028321
It's why I always cycle in the centre of the lane in the middle of the city. I don't know if there are criminal proceedings against the woman - not sure if that is even possible.
I once hit an old lady in Brum. She just walked straight into the road and didn’t look. A car driver stopped. We checked her over. She was okay. Refused an ambulance but I was probably doing 12 MPH.
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Hunt's book, Zero, is worth popping on your list to Father Christmas, for his reflections on running the NHS.Hunt followed Andrew Lansley who was widely. and as far as I know correctly, held to be a catastrophic health minister. It was impossible for Hunt not to be an "upside".That's an overstatement, I'm afraid; Kenneth Robinson, Harold Wilson's first one, was widely held to be excellent.Hunt seemed to manage it.
In response to Mr eek's statement that:
All Heath Secretaries fail - it's a complete impossible job that is all downsides with zero chance of an upside...
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Interesting article in the Telegraph saying Help to buy has created a whole set of housing problems at great expense to tax payersThe problem with building lots of social housing is that the same costs for building will apply to the public sector.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/a783b34855474f85
It's so left field I wonder what the long term agenda is for reform - actively building social housing?
Especially since they will be commissioning one of the Big House Builders to build estates of ugly boxes, with no amenities.
All the same farces of pointless paperwork, inadequate enforcement of standards etc etc.
The only difference would be the insistence on a “public housing spec” - which will be more expensive to build, uglier and poorer quality. I mean, that’s what they’ve *always* done.
So the government builds expensive houses. Which it then rents out cheaply. And has to find the money for the difference.
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
There's a tweet in reply that says it's a framework contract. There isn't literally an order for £11m worth of furniture to be delivered in one go, but there's been a tender for a supplier so that all orders for new furniture for the next period of time are under that contract, up to a limit of £11m.It’s not that some of them need new furniture, it’s that they’re spending £11m on one order for furniture. Surely they’re not buying a desk and chair for their whole staff all at the same time?Why are HMRC spending £11m on office furniture?Er, HMRC have loads of offices and will sometimes need new furniture. You're not expecting people to work on the floor are you?
https://x.com/lnallalingham/status/2003029277759979530
What a weird thing to complain about.
This way the central bureaucracy controls the contract for furniture, but the local offices are able to order what they need as and when they need it.
Obviously, if you were able to dig into the detail it's possible that it's terrible value, but the actual sessions of the contract doesn't show that at all.
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Which parties should have oversight of a whelk stall? Please show your workings.At the moment it's a nothingburger of a story, both complex and supposedly already resolved in Employment Tribunals.Once the true facts of Buggate emerge, the SNP are finished.Morning HYUFD,I suspect Labour will actually get about 20%, win London overall still and do better than expected in Scotland where Holyrood polls suggest Labour gains from the SNP as in the Hamilton by election. That will stop a bad night for Starmer becoming a catastrophe and may save his jobLabour won a NEV of 35% in 2022, and will probably win about 10-15% in May. Reform won nothing in 2022, and will probably win 25-30% next year. The Greens would surge, but the traditional outperformance in local elections by the Lib Dem’s will take a lot of votes that would otherwise go to them. The Conservatives will probably win 20-25%, compared to 30% in 2022.I think it depends on how desperate Labour becomes, which itself depends on how catastrophic the local elections are. If Labour has a true mare - for example losing control of London Boroughs which they currently run with large majorities - then switching to Streeting might be on the cards. The one caveat is if the big winner in the cities happens to be the Greens, Labour members might conclude that being more radical and passionate and tacking left is what's required.There's a lot of engineering him into position I think, and Starmer is clearly on board - not sure how else someone openly campaigning for the top job is still in the Cabinet. He is the annointed successor - and always was.Doubt he is anointed. There was number 10 briefing against him about a month ago.
For that reason, I don't think he makes it.
IMO wouldn't be surprised if Starmer sacks him, says he needs to bring someone in to end the strikes.
What that likely means is Labour being hit on multiple fronts.
Boroughs like Barnsley, Wakefield, Sunderland, Halton, Sandwell, Thurrock will go Reform.
Islington, Hackney, Camden, Lambeth, Birmingham, Southwark, Brent, South Tyneside, will be lost to NOC at least (Your Party will also be challenging in some).
The Tories will lose a string of counties and new unitaries to Reform, but pick up Westminster, Barnet, Wandsworth,
And of course, the results in Wales and Scotland will be horrid.
Otherwise agree with Reform and the Greens likely the main winners next year plus Plaid in Wales and the LDs treading water as the Tories and Labour collapse
I'm not so bullish over Labour in Scotland, they aren't polling as well as pre Hamilton, recent by elections in working class areas were poor for them. Right now they are losing voters to Reform and only slightly more competitive in white collar areas, and they are up against a party with only 1 MSP and effectively no Scottish leader.
Sarwar needs a very clear message and to take the fight on all flanks, to Reform, SNP and the wider electorate. It's easier said than done. He is going hard on the NHS, but needs to attack the SNPs record more. I don't share the view that Labour are heading for multiple gains over the SNP, they have both dropped, but Slabs vote has been squeezed more. Mr Starmer could find himself in big trouble once the votes are all counted up here. It all could change though
Now the SNP probably shouldn't be given the right to run a whelk stall but that's on Scottish voters to decide.


