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Ukraine has really had a shitty time of it. One of the most dumped-on nations in history.

Decimated by deliberate famine under Stalin, one of the biggest sources of war dead in WW2, under the Soviet yoke for decades culminating in bearing the brunt of the Chernobyl tragedy, run like a Mafia state post independence by a series of the most corrupt governments anywhere in the post Soviet sphere, then ground down by Russian aggression for a decade, subject to a bloody and ruinous invasion, and now sold down the river for money by the USA.

Big and slow handclap for all those [moderated] who said Trump would be better for Ukraine than Harris.

Harris was a dreadful candidate.

She was but I'll still take her over Tump, she would never have sold out Ukraine like this.

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Ukraine has really had a shitty time of it. One of the most dumped-on nations in history.

Decimated by deliberate famine under Stalin, one of the biggest sources of war dead in WW2, under the Soviet yoke for decades culminating in bearing the brunt of the Chernobyl tragedy, run like a Mafia state post independence by a series of the most corrupt governments anywhere in the post Soviet sphere, then ground down by Russian aggression for a decade, subject to a bloody and ruinous invasion, and now sold down the river for money by the USA.

So what’s your beloved EU doing to support it ?

@ChristopherJM

BREAKING: President Zelenskyy addressed Ukrainians from outside his presidencial office in Kyiv and told them the county is facing “one of the most difficult moments in our history” as its biggest ally presses it into a deal with the nation that has fought to destroy it for 11 years.

“Now the pressure on Ukraine is one of the most difficult. Now Ukraine may find itself facing a very difficult choice - either the loss of dignity, or the risk of losing a key partner. Either [the Trump administration] 28 points, or an extremely difficult winter, the most difficult and further risks. Life without freedom, without dignity, without justice and for us to believe the one who has attacked twice already. They will expect an answer from us.”

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1991887141090054644?s=20

"Returning to London after a year in the countryside, the signs of societal collapse are everywhere - even at 7am
By Amanda Williams"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15311313/london-societal-collapse-amanda-williams.html

If you don't believe the judgment of the many pb-ers who live in London and none of whom even vaguely recognise this societal collapse, perhaps consider the judgment of the free market? People are still willing to pay half a million quid for a small two bed flat or a million quid for an ordinary terraced house in much of London, why would they do so if it was so bad?

It is bonkers, outright fiction.

And very on topic, if the question of the day is "why do voters believe things that just aren't true"?

This seems...not good.

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1991352574390227129?s=20

Combine that story with the story about the Dutch chipmaker and you have a picture of how Europe is at the mercy of both the US and China. And compared to those two, Russia should be easy, but Europe isn't really dealing with the war with Russia with much in the way of decisiveness and strength.

I find it hard to understand the timidity of European leaders (among which, I include my own country’s). When reading about the 1930’s, I used to ask myself “how could they be so cowardly and stupid?” The question still applies.

I'd say European leaders have, on the whole, done a pretty good job over my 60-year lifetime. Democracy has spread throughout most of the continent, we still have some of the best standards of living in the world, and very few of us have had to fight or die in wars.

Edit: Ah, I just read the tweet that started this thread. I agree, that is appaling.