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Re: From Russia with love – politicalbetting.com
Scheduling the World Cup draw at the same time as her show just proves the lengths they'll go to to silence her.Is there a report from the centrist Dad obsessives on the Truss video ?She is trying too hard to romaine in the public eye.
She seems to occupy a few people’s minds here rent free.
Re: Punters still think the Lib Dems will win more seats than the Tories – politicalbetting.com
The thing about this bet is that it's almost entirely about Reform, and not the Tories or Lib Dems.
If Reform at least double their vote share at the next GE then the Tories will lose dozens more seats. But the Lib Dems are not so vulnerable to a Reform surge. So the Lib Dems would expect to win more seats than the Tories without winning any extra seats themselves.
It's therefore worth comparing the odds for this bet with odds on Reform most seats, or first place in vote share, as they're likely to be related contingencies.
Reform most seats at 11/10 looks like a better bet than the Lib Dems to win more seats than the Tories at 8/11, and similarly Labour most seats at 27/10 is more attractive than the Tories to win more seats than the Lib Dems at 1/1.
If Reform at least double their vote share at the next GE then the Tories will lose dozens more seats. But the Lib Dems are not so vulnerable to a Reform surge. So the Lib Dems would expect to win more seats than the Tories without winning any extra seats themselves.
It's therefore worth comparing the odds for this bet with odds on Reform most seats, or first place in vote share, as they're likely to be related contingencies.
Reform most seats at 11/10 looks like a better bet than the Lib Dems to win more seats than the Tories at 8/11, and similarly Labour most seats at 27/10 is more attractive than the Tories to win more seats than the Lib Dems at 1/1.
Re: From Russia with love – politicalbetting.com
Record broken for wind power generated
https://grid.iamkate.com/
(In the UK, not what's going on at the FIFA draw)
https://grid.iamkate.com/
(In the UK, not what's going on at the FIFA draw)
CatMan
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Re: From Russia with love – politicalbetting.com
The fact nearly a quarter of voters think Farage sides with Putin's Russia in its conflict with Ukraine, far more than think any other main UK party leader sympathises with the Russians, gives clear ground for tactical voting to beat Reform. Though Farage would state the median voter thinks he is neutral on the Russia and Ukraine conflictLooking back one of the few saving graces of Boris was his stand on Ukraine. Never went full-MAGA and, at least in that respect, stayed true to Tory instincts.
Ukraine/Russia is why I think real Tories can never truly be reconciled to Farage. It's an instinctual, gut kind of thing. A "what kind of country are we?" feeling. Faragism goes too far across a certain line in the sand.
Re: Punters still think the Lib Dems will win more seats than the Tories – politicalbetting.com
Reminds me of the Jasper Carrott joke about calling his wife to warn her about a report of a car driving the wrong way on the motorway, to be told, "It's not just one. There are dozens of them."That’s a news article on the BBC then !The BBC. The finest news organisation in the worldMy wife won't drive on the motorway. I keep telling her that if she can drive in SE London she can drive on the motorway, to no avail.
‘ Why I'm terrified of motorways even though I've been driving for 20 years’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ylnw9g994o
Motorway driving is a doddle.
Re: Punters still think the Lib Dems will win more seats than the Tories – politicalbetting.com
Don't worry. When VC eventually does produce The Mangina Monologues there will be no shortage of obsessives willing to discuss "loos" for days on end. I hope we get some advance notice of its publication so I can sell my computer on Facebook Marketplace the day before.I think we should wait for viewcode to post the header (which has clearly taken considerable preparation) before debating bits of it here.@viewcodeThis debate is also persistently hampered by a confusion and mingling of two separate thing, sex and gender. The law should be concerned with the former, the latter being merely what an individual chooses to think of themself as.
I got your message on the previous thread and will respond as requested.
I note this comment from you, which is a view share by some other posters -
"I hold the Widdecombe position on trans: namely, those who have gone all the way surgically/hormonally and can reasonably function as the opposite sex should be allowed to be legally considered as the opposite sex."
I realise that people cannot be expected to follow the ins and outs of complicated areas of law. But the ECHR ruled in 2017 in the case of Garçon & Nicot v France (followed in a case against Italy in 2018 and Romania in 2021 saying the same) that countries could NOT insist on surgery (with a high risk of sterility) as a condition for recognising a change in gender in law. The ECHR has ruled that a change gender identity must in certain circumstances be recognised in law, regardless of a persons physical body. This therefore means means that you cannot link gender recognition to surgery/hormone treatment and must give it to, for instance, a man who has made no changes to his body whatsoever or to a woman trying to get pregnant, if they claim to have changed their gender (re this last, see the recent ruling by Mr Justice Hayden in the "W" case - in October 2025).
Ms Widdecombe, as a former MP and Minister in the Home Office, should have done her research before opining on this or putting this forward as some sort of solution or compromise. It isn't. It is unlawful. This debate is persistently hampered by politicians and commentators putting forward "solutions" which are unlawful. It is unfair and unkind to all concerned to offer false solutions and to mislead about what the law says and has said for some time, whatever side of the debate anyone is on.
Dura_Ace
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Re: Punters still think the Lib Dems will win more seats than the Tories – politicalbetting.com
This is a map (credit J Swarbrick originally, I believe) of local by-election winners since May..those Vikings who settled here would appear to have a lot to answer for...I suspect you may be right in North Dorset, and HYUFD in Essex.No, I really don't think so. Not round here anyway.More Con voters would tactically vote Reform than LD but more LD voters would tactically vote Con to beat Reform than would tactically vote ReformThe thing about this bet is that it's almost entirely about Reform, and not the Tories or Lib Dems.Also, I think Lib Dem voters are in general more averse to Reform than average, probably the most averse overall. It's just a gut feel, it would be interesting to see if polling evidence supported that.
If Reform at least double their vote share at the next GE then the Tories will lose dozens more seats. But the Lib Dems are not so vulnerable to a Reform surge. So the Lib Dems would expect to win more seats than the Tories without winning any extra seats themselves.
It's therefore worth comparing the odds for this bet with odds on Reform most seats, or first place in vote share, as they're likely to be related contingencies.
Reform most seats at 11/10 looks like a better bet than the Lib Dems to win more seats than the Tories at 8/11, and similarly Labour most seats at 27/10 is more attractive than the Tories to win more seats than the Lib Dems at 1/1.
The point being, if I am right the stronger Reform are the more likely LDs are to gain seats. Our North Dorset seat last time was Con 37%, LD 34%, Reform 16%. Yesterday's projection had N Dorset going to Reform, and it may well do but it's not likely to be the LD voters switching imo.
I could be wrong though (and I know you never are 😉) so as I said it would be good to see some polling. Is there something around 2024 vote switchers that would show this?

IanB2
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
AML rules cannot br ignored. The problem is not the bank clerks it is the rules.All people care about now is following policy and process, not actually helping anyone.You always used to be able to walk into any bank and, say, change a £20 note into two tens, etc, but if you try doing it now, they won't, unless you stick your bank card into the machine and effectively do it through your bank account, so it has to be your bank, not just any bank.Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.
The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.
If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.
If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".
I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.
Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.
MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.
As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.
And I assume the reason for this is something to do with money laundering. As if a money launderer would waste time walking into a bank with a few banknotes and change them into different denominations. Ridiculous.
These are an absolute nightmare. The hassle my 85 year old aunt went through proving "source of funds" when she gave £20 000 to her grandsons for a flat deposit was out of this world. She had cashed in some Premium Bonds that she had held for 2 decades and had to show where she got that money in the first place. Anyone working in conveyancing has similar stories every week.
Similarly, I am a Trustee for a couple of charities, and we have a number of accounts to manage our funds. We want to take advantage of better interest rates on our reserves, but opening any new account takes months (often the rate disappears in the meantime).
Abolishing or greatly reducing AML rules is the sort of deregulation needed in our economy. I cannot see anyone really engaged in money laundering doing it by either of these means.
AML rules date from 2014, I think.
Foxy
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.
The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.
The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.
If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.
If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".
I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.
Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.
MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.
As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.
The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.
The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.
If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.
If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".
I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.
Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.
MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.
As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
If anyone is interested, I have written a Chrome plugin that scans any web page for any discussion about trans. If it find it, it sends the offending sections to the OpenAI API and asks it to rewrite it, so it is now about trains, and particularly about Deltics, but it retains the original style and ... oomph ... of the original author.
I reckon it will make the Web a more fun place to visit.
I reckon it will make the Web a more fun place to visit.
rcs1000
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