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OBR calls in cyber expert over botched release of Budget analysis
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Even though the document was not listed on the OBR website, journalists - including those at the BBC - were able to access by guessing its URL, which was very similar to one used in a previous official document.
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The BBC was able to access the PDF version of the OBR's key report at 11:45 on Wednesday by replacing the word 'March' with 'November' in the web address of a previous edition.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgmn991pz9jo

Dunno what's left for the OBR's expert to discover, except how much the OBR will pay external consultants in order to protect their bosses' jobs.

I often follow that approach so I am ready to download the document as soon as it is ready. I am very glad I didn't do that this time and end up seeing the document before the media reported the leak, or I would currently be having a serious compliance conversation around insider information!
Sounds like the OBR screwed this up.

Aren't there ANY PB'ers apart me thinking, There but for the grace of God....

If the use of a jury rather than specialists really is the best way to go about things, perhaps we should introduce them in other fields too. For example, doctors could be required to persuade a jury of the suitability or otherwise of a particular treatment regime, and the dimensioning of bridges could also be determined by random folk, with engineers taking an advisory role.

Who are the specialists in truth telling, lie detecting, deciding between experts who disagree, or applying the 'satisfied so that you are sure' test if it is not ordinary people?

AIUI, the job of a court is to determine whether or not defendants are guilty of breaking laws. I'd have thought the best people to decide on this would be those who are experts in law. That's how it works in every other field. The use of juries seems completely anachronistic to me.

I think there's a bit more to it than that. Having juries is a defence against 'but this is the process'. The fewer actual humans you involve, the greater the risk of the processing winning against common sense.
Personally I thought the Colston statue rioters were a bunch of smug pricks. But I absolutely want to live in a country where a jury can decide their fate rather than a judge. Because one day I might do something legally wrong but morally right and be reliant on a jury.

FPT:

Sky news reporting not good for Reeves

67 billion rises in taxes in 18 months

Newsnight good for Reeves and more important the market likes it (according toi Newsnight)

So if you want optimism change channels!

The market likes it because she has created 22 billion headroom by taxing everything and anything

She has chosen high taxes and high spending especially on benefits when she should have reduced spending and taxes

Anyway let's see where it all settles in public opinion

I'm still on she has I think taxed a lot of the wrong tings, and missed other important things out ... too much of it is half-baked and tactical.

I think they have now missed the opportunity to be a reforming Government, at least without a second term.

Lots more people being found guilty I reckon. Sentencing of course is going to remain the same orbit - so prisons will become more full of edge cases where a jury wouldn't convict but a judge would.

Unless it's an immigration case, where that may be reversed.

That's quite funny, CR, but it's a serious question and I should think there must have been some research done in this area, and also on the optimum size for a jury, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

From my now much overworked sample of four I can say that in two of the cases the judge would have found differently. In one of them, the guy was obviously guilty but the judge didn't blame the jury for getting it wrong. He blamed the prosecution for presenting the case so poorly. (It was the poor sod's first case and he got in a right mess.) In the other I think everyone present was surprised when we returned a guilty verdict. I remain convinced to this day that we got it right.

I'm conflicted about the abolition of jury trials for medium level cases. I've no problem with most of the bizarre decisions .... the Colston statue, for example, although I did scratch my head over that of the Duchess of Edinburgh's outrider. It's always seemed to me that juries had, or should have, local knowledge which should lead them to a sensible confusion. In that connection I recall reading (I'm not THAT old) of the pre-WWII case of the Welsh Nationalists who set fire to a RAF base in Gwynedd, and the trial was moved to London because a local jury had disagreed, and the judge, and the State, very definitely wanted a conviction.

Jury trial dates back to ancient times; yes, but do we, in the 21st century get more 'accurate' results than, say, the Scandinavians, the French or the Germans? Who, as far as I know, rely on judges and assessors. (I'm prepared to be corrected on this.)

Do continental criminal lawyers get quite as combative as ours seem to, and are witnesses treated better or worse? Has anyone actually done any dispassionate work on this? Or are we simply seeing a knee-jerk response to what I hope is a short-term problem?

I'd understood that the continental legal system requires people to prove their innocence, rather than innocence being the initial presumption.

I would hope not. There must be a huge number of crimes that I could not prove I did not commit.

Most European systems have a non confrontational approach to trials (there is a proper name for that, that I can't remember). Anglosphere countries like the confrontational method.

Yes, and it seems to work perfectly well. The conviction (hah!) that you have to have a prosecution and a defence pitted against each other in order to determine guilt isn't the axiom that many seem to think it is. It's also possible, and in my view preferable, to determine guilt by carefully considering the facts of the case from a neutral standpoint, as is the case in many other countries.

That is dependent on your belief that the State is neutral.

It isn't.