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Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
Starmer not making a statement either way is the correct approach, let's let everyone cool down and then try again. Getting Trump to stick to his promise to keep sanctions on Russia for a extra year that he gave to Starmer is much more important to Ukraine (and Europe) than the feel good factor of picking a side right now.
If Starmer is seen to be moving away from Trump or disrespecting him then that promise goes out of the window so cooler heads are needed
What we need is to get Trump in the room with Zelenskyy here in the UK without that idiot Vance and with Rubio and other more sensible Republicans. We should ensure that Vance isn't invited to the state dinner, make sure Mandy is in the White House for the weeks leading up preparing the ground with Trump and we need to get firm commitments from all across Europe to fund a much larger proportion of Ukraine's support so that the monetary factor goes away for Trump (which really seems to be the big sticking point) even if it means the European countries writing long dated loans to Ukraine at favourable terms so that they can pay back a big portion of US cash support they've given.
If Starmer is seen to be moving away from Trump or disrespecting him then that promise goes out of the window so cooler heads are needed
What we need is to get Trump in the room with Zelenskyy here in the UK without that idiot Vance and with Rubio and other more sensible Republicans. We should ensure that Vance isn't invited to the state dinner, make sure Mandy is in the White House for the weeks leading up preparing the ground with Trump and we need to get firm commitments from all across Europe to fund a much larger proportion of Ukraine's support so that the monetary factor goes away for Trump (which really seems to be the big sticking point) even if it means the European countries writing long dated loans to Ukraine at favourable terms so that they can pay back a big portion of US cash support they've given.
MaxPB
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Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
To all those trying to blame the Dems for Trump:
It's always someone else's fault.
It is really hard to counter lies; especially when the liar does not care about the consequences of those lies.
It's always someone else's fault.
It is really hard to counter lies; especially when the liar does not care about the consequences of those lies.
Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
Anyone think Trump hasn't been itching to manufacture an excuse to deliver this for his chum Putin?https://x.com/john_hudson/status/1895591435812159780Now that IS much more serious. That truly is music to Moscow ears.
🚨The Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to Zelensky’s remarks in the Oval Office on Friday and his perceived intransigence in the peace process, per senior administration official
That is the most shocking take out from today. 😧
I mean - really.
He's so fucking transparent.
Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
We’re still all assuming Trump and his cabal are rational actors. They’re not. They need to get hardball treatment, as Canada has shown.This is Starmer's momentI would rather he lowers the temperature than escalates for dramatic effect. We need to buy time.
And i think he is going to fuck it up
It took us 2 decades to realise that about Putin. Are we really going to make the same mistake again?
TimS
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Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
Nothing Zelenskyy said was particularly rude or disrespectful. Anyone objective watching that press conference would have felt they witnessed a nasty case of bullying.Zelenskyy must be very confident that he is going to get massive support on Sunday. The man is incredibly brave but he is not an idiot and he is carrying his country on his back.I hope you're right, David, but I saw a man who simply lost his cool amongst a den of fools.
Trump screamed at him that he had no cards. His cutting reply was that he wasn’t playing cards. But I suspect that he had an Ace in his back pocket.
In which event it will be Trump that has overplayed his hand.
Everything that Trump and Vance said was both rude and disrespectful.
TimS
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Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
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Scott_xP
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Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
What struck me is quite how poisonous Vance is. Trump is Trump. But the thought that next in line is someone quite as venomous as that is truly depressing. Feels like the end times.
Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
It’s time for cool heads and to remember that the US and Ukraine are on the same side.They aren't though
BoZo has indeed written two statements in a single Tweet.
Twat
Scott_xP
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Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
Notable on social media: the Tories have decided on a strategy, that they should support Ukraine and condemn Trump. Multiple conservatives all giving similar messages.I am very pleased to hear that and it is the right thing to do
So this is their kill-Reform strategy, I assume. From a domestic politics point of view it makes sense. Must be uncomfortable for MAGA-aligned politicians in the ranks, but they’re all at it. Kemi, Jenrick, IDS, Cleverly. Quite a brave tactical decision.
Re: I can’t remember how to write 1, 1000, 51, 6, and 500 in Roman numerals, I M LIVID
It was the right thing to do yesterday; nobody expected Trump to throw such a pathetic tantrum as this today. Maybe we should have done, but nobody did.This is a time for cool, wise heads. It’s an extraordinarily dangerous moment. The right move is to lower the temperature, but take the lesson and adapt to this new world.I genuinely don’t know what Starmer should do. I still think his approach yesterday was the right one although I now have some doubts.
The hard bit is what to do next. Over to you, Prime Minister.
