From the GuardianBelgium. Bloody Belgians.
"Zelenskyy has taken to X, formerly Twitter, to thank leaders who have posted their support on the social media platform.
They include the leaders of Germany, Spain, France, Poland, Sweden, Norway, Moldova, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Czech Republic, Finland, Portugal, Croatia, the European Parliament, the European Commission and European Council."
Can't help feeling there is something missing there.
Zelenskyy must be very confident that he is going to get massive support on Sunday. The man is incredibly brave but he is not an idiot and he is carrying his country on his back.I've not seen anyone point it out yet, so apologies if anyone has, but the 'mic drop' moment for me was when Trump said during the argument that if it wasn't for America the war would have been over in 2 weeks and Zelensky immediately retorted "in 3 days, I heard it from Putin".
Trump screamed at him that he had no cards. His cutting reply was that he wasn’t playing cards. But I suspect that he had an Ace in his back pocket.
In which event it will be Trump that has overplayed his hand.
Interesting summary here. This seems to be a take across left and right. Konstantin Kisin to Aaron Bastani have similar.The Aaron Bastani who publishes articles by Oliver Eagleton claiming the Ukraine war was essentially provoked by America?
I only saw a little bit after reading a few comments here as I was watching an old episode of New Tricks. A far more worthwhile endeavour, I may try to catch it later.
Zelenskyy went there and was going to get a deal but didn’t.
https://x.com/richardhanania/status/1895562922593841557?s=61
‘I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.
When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.
You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.
In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.
For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.
The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.
The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.
Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.
I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.’
That would 100% be the wrong thing to doThe King should withdraw the invitation.Johnson doesn’t give a toss about Ukraine.Ask Zelensky and Ukraine and see their response if you believe that nonsense
And do you support Starmer withdrawing the King's invitation to Trump?
Literally blowing my mind. The fucking head of intelligence in the US went on social fucking media and said the Ukr president is trying to organize a nuclear war.That is genuinely insane.
73 million americans voted for this absolute shit.
Tulsi Gabbard 🌺
@TulsiGabbard Thank you @realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President @JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
H.R. McMasterI thought it was pretty clear . Trump likes Putin and likes the way he governs and only seems to have any respect for vile autocrats . As for Bozos comments he really is fxcking clueless to suggest Zelenskyy and Trump are on the same side . That ship sailed a long time ago if it even left the port.
@LTGHRMcMaster
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It is impossible to understand why President Trump and Vice President Vance seem determined to put more pressure on President Zelensky while they seem to be coddling Putin - the person who inflicted this terrible war in Ukraine.