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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.
The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.
The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.
If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.
If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".
I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.
Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.
MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.
As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.
The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.
The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.
If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.
If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".
I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.
Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.
MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.
As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
If anyone is interested, I have written a Chrome plugin that scans any web page for any discussion about trans. If it find it, it sends the offending sections to the OpenAI API and asks it to rewrite it, so it is now about trains, and particularly about Deltics, but it retains the original style and ... oomph ... of the original author.
I reckon it will make the Web a more fun place to visit.
I reckon it will make the Web a more fun place to visit.
rcs1000
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
I get it. Corbyn says/likes something anti-semitic and unwilling to apologise = unfit to be leader or MP,Well it was completely acceptable in my local comprehensive. No Hitler love, but great hilarity around the Ethiopia famine for example. Shocking looking back, but Pretending this stuff was not going on is revisionist bullshit.Indeed. I'd go further. I'm older, and this notion that racist, or sexist, 'banter' was socially acceptable in the 70s and 80s just isn't true. Of course such banter existed, but both had been challenged since the mid-1960s by anti-racist and feminist groups and, though there remained much to do, such banter wasn't the norm any more, and its proponents were on the back foot, certainly by the mid-to-late 1970s.I'm NF's age. It wasn't any sort of cultural norm in the 70s to taunt and bully Jewish people about Nazi atrocities. He's flapping around desperately and dishonestly.Yes and you’re wrong. It’s perfectly valid point to make.That's what I said, didn't I?Isn't it?It's not much of a point, though, is it.The point is Farage was about 14 or 15 at the time, while the BBC, run by fully grown adults, was showing the Black and White Minstrel Show during the same period.This is Farage outbursts against the BBCWhile Farage is expert at whataboutery, straw men, rephrasing, non apologies and so on, I just draw attention to what, it is alleged, comes from the actual time when he was at school, written in 1981 by a teacher to the head. It includes these words:
https://news.sky.com/liveblog-webview/politics-latest-budget-taxes-reeves-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-12593360
“Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson. This master stated his view that this behaviour was precisely why the boy should not be made a prefect. Yet another colleague described how, at a Combined Cadet Force (CCF) camp organised by the college, Farage and others had marched through a quiet Sussex village very late at night shouting Hitler-youth songs.”
As contemporaneous evidence from decades before people knew he might be PM it is, if authentic (and Michael Crick says it is) it is of greater evidential value than all the (I have no doubt generally reliable) accounts from memories years later.
How important it is is a separate question. But I think Reform and Farage are troubled by this.
Societal cultural norms change over time. What’s acceptable now won’t be in a decade. The further you go back the more the change.
I rather suspect one of Farage's problems is that he perceived the banter of the posh-heads at Dulwich College (and subsequently in the City) as the norm.
Farage says "Gas 'em all" and refuses to apologise = glorious patriot standing up against multiculturism.
Foxy
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
What's doing for Farage, to the extent anything gets through the teflon, is not his teenage racism, it's his complete inability to say, "I did some horrible things when I was younger. I apologise to the people I hurt."Well obviously because a. he still believes it, b. he’d lose some of his core support if he disavowed it.
What the witnesses, and the written reports from the time all show, is that he was an outlier in his year group: a notable racist, enough to elicit repeated comment at the time.
Decades beforehand Wodehouse created Roderick Spode. That sort of character was also an outlier even back then. The idea we were all fascists in the 70s is nonsense.
MelonB
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
For someone the mythical ‘they’ tried to silence she’s been very vocal ever since she was defenestratedThe lettuce strikes back:I see Labour have equalled Liz Truss's record low:Lettuce see how that pans out.
https://x.com/FindoutnowUK/status/1996572051478282392
Find Out Now
@FindoutnowUK
Find Out Now voting intention:
🟦 Reform UK: 31% (-)
🔵 Conservatives: 20% (+2)
🟢 Greens: 18% (+1)
🔴 Labour: 14% (-1)
🟠 Lib Dems: 11% (-1)
Changes from 26th November
[Find Out Now, 3rd December, N=2,591]
https://x.com/trussliz/status/1996640749304402407
They tried to silence her. They failed.
The Liz Truss Show — December 5th.
It’s time to fight for the West.
Taz
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
I’m around 20 years older and went to a school with a significant number of Jewish boys. There was a bit of antisemitism but it was generally felt to be ‘bad form’. That was in despite the Morning Assembly being being segregated; Catholic and Jewish boys came in for the announcements.I'm NF's age. It wasn't any sort of cultural norm in the 70s to taunt and bully Jewish people about Nazi atrocities. He's flapping around desperately and dishonestly.Yes and you’re wrong. It’s perfectly valid point to make.That's what I said, didn't I?Isn't it?It's not much of a point, though, is it.The point is Farage was about 14 or 15 at the time, while the BBC, run by fully grown adults, was showing the Black and White Minstrel Show during the same period.This is Farage outbursts against the BBCWhile Farage is expert at whataboutery, straw men, rephrasing, non apologies and so on, I just draw attention to what, it is alleged, comes from the actual time when he was at school, written in 1981 by a teacher to the head. It includes these words:
https://news.sky.com/liveblog-webview/politics-latest-budget-taxes-reeves-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-12593360
“Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson. This master stated his view that this behaviour was precisely why the boy should not be made a prefect. Yet another colleague described how, at a Combined Cadet Force (CCF) camp organised by the college, Farage and others had marched through a quiet Sussex village very late at night shouting Hitler-youth songs.”
As contemporaneous evidence from decades before people knew he might be PM it is, if authentic (and Michael Crick says it is) it is of greater evidential value than all the (I have no doubt generally reliable) accounts from memories years later.
How important it is is a separate question. But I think Reform and Farage are troubled by this.
Societal cultural norms change over time. What’s acceptable now won’t be in a decade. The further you go back the more the change.
Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
I'm NF's age. It wasn't any sort of cultural norm in the 70s to taunt and bully Jewish people about Nazi atrocities. He's flapping around desperately and dishonestly.Yes and you’re wrong. It’s perfectly valid point to make.That's what I said, didn't I?Isn't it?It's not much of a point, though, is it.The point is Farage was about 14 or 15 at the time, while the BBC, run by fully grown adults, was showing the Black and White Minstrel Show during the same period.This is Farage outbursts against the BBCWhile Farage is expert at whataboutery, straw men, rephrasing, non apologies and so on, I just draw attention to what, it is alleged, comes from the actual time when he was at school, written in 1981 by a teacher to the head. It includes these words:
https://news.sky.com/liveblog-webview/politics-latest-budget-taxes-reeves-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-12593360
“Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson. This master stated his view that this behaviour was precisely why the boy should not be made a prefect. Yet another colleague described how, at a Combined Cadet Force (CCF) camp organised by the college, Farage and others had marched through a quiet Sussex village very late at night shouting Hitler-youth songs.”
As contemporaneous evidence from decades before people knew he might be PM it is, if authentic (and Michael Crick says it is) it is of greater evidential value than all the (I have no doubt generally reliable) accounts from memories years later.
How important it is is a separate question. But I think Reform and Farage are troubled by this.
Societal cultural norms change over time. What’s acceptable now won’t be in a decade. The further you go back the more the change.
kinabalu
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Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
I like the programmes where they start by saying it "contains moderate language". It sounds like they might be drafting a resolution on sheltered housing at a Lib Dem conference.This is Farage outbursts against the BBCHe does have a fair point here. Many BBC shows now have ‘trigger warnings’ even Little Britain and, yes, racist TV shows and shows that would fall foul of today’s modern sensibilities were in abundance on all three channels back then.
https://news.sky.com/liveblog-webview/politics-latest-budget-taxes-reeves-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-12593360
You also have the MSM trying to give the guy from Oxford Uni who gloated over Charlie Kirk’s death friendly interviews to plead his case as he shouldn’t pay for saying silly things when young. I don’t think that’s unfair. What Farage said over 40 years at school, who cares, it what he is now that matters.
Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
Indeed. I'd go further. I'm older, and this notion that racist, or sexist, 'banter' was socially acceptable in the 70s and 80s just isn't true. Of course such banter existed, but both had been challenged since the mid-1960s by anti-racist and feminist groups and, though there remained much to do, such banter wasn't the norm any more, and its proponents were on the back foot, certainly by the mid-to-late 1970s.I'm NF's age. It wasn't any sort of cultural norm in the 70s to taunt and bully Jewish people about Nazi atrocities. He's flapping around desperately and dishonestly.Yes and you’re wrong. It’s perfectly valid point to make.That's what I said, didn't I?Isn't it?It's not much of a point, though, is it.The point is Farage was about 14 or 15 at the time, while the BBC, run by fully grown adults, was showing the Black and White Minstrel Show during the same period.This is Farage outbursts against the BBCWhile Farage is expert at whataboutery, straw men, rephrasing, non apologies and so on, I just draw attention to what, it is alleged, comes from the actual time when he was at school, written in 1981 by a teacher to the head. It includes these words:
https://news.sky.com/liveblog-webview/politics-latest-budget-taxes-reeves-starmer-labour-badenoch-farage-12593360
“Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson. This master stated his view that this behaviour was precisely why the boy should not be made a prefect. Yet another colleague described how, at a Combined Cadet Force (CCF) camp organised by the college, Farage and others had marched through a quiet Sussex village very late at night shouting Hitler-youth songs.”
As contemporaneous evidence from decades before people knew he might be PM it is, if authentic (and Michael Crick says it is) it is of greater evidential value than all the (I have no doubt generally reliable) accounts from memories years later.
How important it is is a separate question. But I think Reform and Farage are troubled by this.
Societal cultural norms change over time. What’s acceptable now won’t be in a decade. The further you go back the more the change.
I rather suspect one of Farage's problems is that he perceived the banter of the posh-heads at Dulwich College (and subsequently in the City) as the norm.
Re: The worm that turned? – politicalbetting.com
Off topic, but I think most of you will enjoy this picture, which I captured on the day I suggested looking at Mt. Rainier web cams:

(This early in the winter here, clear weather for an entire day is uncommon.)

(This early in the winter here, clear weather for an entire day is uncommon.)
