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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
I have been having lots of tests as my mobility and health disappoints but the good news is my tests were OK but as I long suspected it is all age related and pain management going forward
However, as I said to my doctor this am if I hadn't had my DVT 2 year's ago and with tests that followed they may not have found out my heart was knackered and my life saved by a pacemaker
My wife and I, and my family, are all so grateful to have been given more time and at least, as my wife starts our Christmas card list, I am still causing chaos on PB at times when several.on our list have passed on
Sometimes we get too bound up with politics when we should make the best of every day and accept our blessings when so many are suffering terribly through ill health, wars, famine, and yes Donald Trump
However, as I said to my doctor this am if I hadn't had my DVT 2 year's ago and with tests that followed they may not have found out my heart was knackered and my life saved by a pacemaker
My wife and I, and my family, are all so grateful to have been given more time and at least, as my wife starts our Christmas card list, I am still causing chaos on PB at times when several.on our list have passed on
Sometimes we get too bound up with politics when we should make the best of every day and accept our blessings when so many are suffering terribly through ill health, wars, famine, and yes Donald Trump
Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
Starmer does have a point regarding the OBR and the timing of the productivity report .
They waited 15 years to conduct a review and only did that when Labour came to power .
Hunt would not have been able to blow a hole in the finances with his unaffordable NI cuts if the review had been undertaken earlier .
They waited 15 years to conduct a review and only did that when Labour came to power .
Hunt would not have been able to blow a hole in the finances with his unaffordable NI cuts if the review had been undertaken earlier .
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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
"I’ll tell you what happens with impossible promises. You start with a far-fetched Brexit proposition. It is then pickled into a rigid dogma, a code, and you go through the years sticking to that, outdated, misplaced, irrelevant to the real needs, and you end in the grotesque chaos of the Daily Telegraph – the Daily Telegraph ! – publishing op-eds to post around the web, pointing out to its own readers that it was all a huge mistake."Hilarious the excitement of remainers over a Jeremy Warner hit piece.Nah, Warner's been at this for a decade.Telegraph (Jeremy Warner):Interesting, from this article one can deduce some important economic and political anaylsis:
Time to admit the truth: Brexit has been an unmitigated economic failure
Leaving the EU has reduced Britain’s GDP by up to 8pc, according to a devastating US study
Full article link, just to help the PB blood pressure:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/721ba488bba63fd4
Someone at the Telegraph has crunched the numbers and realised they are missing out on subscriptions from remainers......
Nigelb
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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
Reeves would be in trouble if she'd given a rosier account of the nation's finances than the OBR in advance of the budget. The fact that she gave a gloomier account than the OBR means she, and Starmer, will ride this out easily.
She should, however, learn from this by shutting the fuck up in advance of her next budget. The 'leaks' did her no favours, not did the early morning speech a few weeks ago.
She should, however, learn from this by shutting the fuck up in advance of her next budget. The 'leaks' did her no favours, not did the early morning speech a few weeks ago.
Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
@BestForBritain
Two more Conservative MP rejects hop over to Reform UK. Jonathan Gullis and Lia Nici.
More and more, Reform UK looks simply as if the Tories ran off stage, then came back on two minutes later, wearing a comedy moustache-and-glasses disguise. ~AA
https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1995431919161610616?s=20
Two more Conservative MP rejects hop over to Reform UK. Jonathan Gullis and Lia Nici.
More and more, Reform UK looks simply as if the Tories ran off stage, then came back on two minutes later, wearing a comedy moustache-and-glasses disguise. ~AA
https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1995431919161610616?s=20
Scott_xP
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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
So why did she lie to her Cabinet colleagues and why did Starmer connive in that lie?
I think the answer is reasonably straightforward. She was trying to prevent a series of claims for more money from the Cabinet and the back benches. She was trying to find enough leverage to at least cut the rate of growth of spending, even if it was beyond her party to actually make cuts as were required. She also found the run up to this budget deeply frustrating with every month's figures threatening to knock her off course or back on again. She wanted a buffer in future budgets because it would make it look like she was more in control rather than being tossed around like an autumn leaf in a storm.
All of which is quite sensible, really. There are two problems, firstly a Labour party which still cannot accept the idea of austerity because they remain hooked on the fantasy that this was a Tory "choice" and secondly a top team of Chancellor and PM who are simply dishonest and cannot be trusted. There will be a price to pay for both.
I think the answer is reasonably straightforward. She was trying to prevent a series of claims for more money from the Cabinet and the back benches. She was trying to find enough leverage to at least cut the rate of growth of spending, even if it was beyond her party to actually make cuts as were required. She also found the run up to this budget deeply frustrating with every month's figures threatening to knock her off course or back on again. She wanted a buffer in future budgets because it would make it look like she was more in control rather than being tossed around like an autumn leaf in a storm.
All of which is quite sensible, really. There are two problems, firstly a Labour party which still cannot accept the idea of austerity because they remain hooked on the fantasy that this was a Tory "choice" and secondly a top team of Chancellor and PM who are simply dishonest and cannot be trusted. There will be a price to pay for both.
DavidL
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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
Reeves said the glass was half empty, to justify a course of action. Others said the glass was half full, to justify a different course of action. That's to be expected, and I really cannot get excited about it.
Re: The one party coalition of chaos – politicalbetting.com
It will never not amuse me that the British Green party somehow manages to be against our only highspeed rail project, most of our actual offshore wind projects and most of our large scale solar projects.
https://x.com/stuarthammond14/status/1994798606948471105
Also nuclear.
https://x.com/stuarthammond14/status/1994798606948471105
Also nuclear.
Nigelb
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Re: The one party coalition of chaos – politicalbetting.com
Evening all 
While you've been talking about God knows what, I've been doing some politics and had a chat a party leader this afternoon.
No, not Kemi, Ed or even Zack but Mehmood.
Yes, that Mehmood, Mehmood Mirza, leader of the Newham Independents who had a stall in the High Street outside Poundland this afternoon. While Mrs Stodge dived for cover in the charity shop, I introduced myself to Mr Mirza, We had an interesting discussion on crime, housing and how badly Newham Council is run (in both his view and mine).
Mirza is adamant the Newham Independents will run a full slate of candidates as well as a Mayoral candidate next year and he thinks they can take control from Labour. He loathes Labour but has some time for the Greens - I told him I could see an easy route to 15 Councillors and possibly 23 but after that it would be much tougher.
His line was to blame the Government and the incumbent Council and unfortunately most of his solutions began with "if we had more money". That may actually convince quite a few in Newham but not me.
While you've been talking about God knows what, I've been doing some politics and had a chat a party leader this afternoon.
No, not Kemi, Ed or even Zack but Mehmood.
Yes, that Mehmood, Mehmood Mirza, leader of the Newham Independents who had a stall in the High Street outside Poundland this afternoon. While Mrs Stodge dived for cover in the charity shop, I introduced myself to Mr Mirza, We had an interesting discussion on crime, housing and how badly Newham Council is run (in both his view and mine).
Mirza is adamant the Newham Independents will run a full slate of candidates as well as a Mayoral candidate next year and he thinks they can take control from Labour. He loathes Labour but has some time for the Greens - I told him I could see an easy route to 15 Councillors and possibly 23 but after that it would be much tougher.
His line was to blame the Government and the incumbent Council and unfortunately most of his solutions began with "if we had more money". That may actually convince quite a few in Newham but not me.
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Re: The one party coalition of chaos – politicalbetting.com
I don't disagree with you but it was an outright lie that the government had a new fiscal blackhole. That lie kicked off months of speculation on tax rises which damaged investment and jobs. She needs to resign for that.Though you would surely have to be insane to run the fiscal headroom down to zero.It's not that either, they were talking about the fiscal headroom figure which is tangentially related to the deficit. It's the amount of money the government has available to overspend or undertax and still meet the fiscal rules of having debt falling over a 5 year cycle. The OBR told Reeves that she had £4.2bn in headroom available and then Reeves went on TV and implied that there was a big blackhole which would require tax rises, which was clearly not true."The current budget is the difference between total current spending (i.e. day-to-day spending excluding capital investment) and total current revenue. It is a similar measure to PSNB in that it includes all public sector current receipts plus current spending, however it excludes depreciation and capital spending." - OBRRidiculous reporting. Our journalist and MP classes are genuine morons. It's little wonder the country is fucked."At no point were the Cabinet told about the reality of the OBR forecasts."It told Reeves on October 31 that she had a £4.2billion surplus ...
https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1995233439767798232
She's done. Be gone.
No she f###ing does not!
The Budget deficit is in the hundreds of billions. There is no surplus! WTAF!? 😡😡😡
Presumably that means it is a kind of real-time measure of tax/revenue income vs day-to-day spending in that current year/quarter?
MaxPB
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