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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
The Tories need to work out what they're for first.
They still haven't bothered to do that.
They still haven't bothered to do that.
Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
The Supreme Court is due to rule on women shortly. Various news organisations will cover it live.I hope @Cyclefree is doing OK and well enough to follow it.

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I get so exasperated with this story. On occasions, when time allows, I draft a speech for the opposing party. It is the best way to identify the weaknesses and strengths of your own position.So you are confirming what I have always believed that the true architect of Brexit was the man who held two letters in his jacket pocket because he wasn't entirely sure whether he was a Leaver or a Remainer. Fantastic!Farage very nearly crashed the Brexit vote with his illl-judged poster campaign that was all about Me! Me! Me! Frage trying to wrest attention away from the person who REALLY delivered Brexit. Which was Boris Johnson.What preposterous bolloxThe problem is that the star quality that Farage has is eerily similar to that of Jeffrey Archer. He has charisma, but he also has no real anchor, neither personal, political, nor-lets face it- moral.Jenrick would solve some problems for the Conservatives. He is undoubtedly less lazy than Badenoch, and has a surer finger on the pulse of what Conservative-inclined voters care about.Farage offers NOTA. The old parties have failed, try my new panacea (see also Brexit). Jenrick personifies that history of failure – for Farage, for voters, and for Keir Starmer at PMQs.Although what is the point of Farage when the Tories have Honest Bob (although the opposite is equally applicable)?I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.None of that changes under Jenrick.
- they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
- Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
- almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
Jenrick's latest pronouncements are against Islamist gangs running prisons, which, as Starmer will remind everyone, started under the Conservatives, along with prison overcrowding, access to boiling oil and so on and so forth.
Most damning of all, Jenrick is a Cambridge-educated lawyer.
Set against that, there's the whole Tawdry Bob thing.
But the big issues would remain. He was part of the 2019-24 government, and that failed utterly. Farage wasn't. Furthermore, Nigel has started quality in a way that is in a different league.
This is a guy who has taken the money to front the Russian state propaganda channel, who has burned through several political parties and eventually fallen out with all his colleagues. He lacks gravitas as much as he lacks anything except the most facile solutions to the mostly fake problems that he identifies, so he is a media creation, not a statesman.
After Trump, I think the danger of these media creations is now far more evident, so although I can certainly see a scenario where Farage does well in the short term, this is more to do with the ongoing death rattle of the Tories than any particular virtues, or lack of them, that Farage has.
In short, am unconvinced that Farage can control his own destiny, and at 61, time is against him.
Farage is nothing like Jeffrey fecking Archer
Farage - like it or not - is a deeply skilled politician who changed British history - by securing Brexit - and now threatens to do it again by taking a new party to second or even first place in a general election
Jeffrey Archer became chairman of the Tory party, wrote some books, went to jail
A Brexit fronted by Farage would have failed.
Frankly, anyone who thought Brexit was a simple question with an obvious solution is an idiot ( yes Nigel, that includes you). There were points to be made on both sides. Setting out both sides so he could recognise that and be prepared for the counter argument is one of the main reasons Boris won. If the remainers had done the same they might have had a chance.

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Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
From the BBC report on Robinson's appeal, showing that even imprisonment has its upsides:
Baroness Carr said the court had carefully considered Yaxley-Lennon's complaints about his treatment in prison when coming to its decision.
"He says that he cannot now watch GB News."
Baroness Carr said the court had carefully considered Yaxley-Lennon's complaints about his treatment in prison when coming to its decision.
"He says that he cannot now watch GB News."
Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
My son joined Llandudno RNLI in 2021 and with intensive training, including in Poole, he has advanced to an inshore lifeboat helm [his first command] and inshore lifeboat head launcher and recently passed his tier 1 all weather lifeboat qualification and is on his way to passing tier 2Is this true?? You have family members who work in the lifeboats???It's not a joke in our family who have had several members drowned at sea over the years, and experienced the pain of a loved one never being found or returned to them and who value the RNLI with a passionIt’s a frigging joke. I’m making a joke that I’m so dementedly antiWoke I’m determined to crush the communist running dogs manning the lifeboatsOur son puts his life on the line to save lives at sea in weather you wouldn't believe, and he does it entirely free and that is only because he is part of the RNLI which is highly respected and any normal person would see your comment as utterly distastefulTOTAL VICTORY FOR TERFSOnly for people who never understood the vibe.BREAKING: Supreme Court rules the term sex refers to 'biological women'Another straw in the wind of the vibeshift
published at 10:02
10:02
Breaking
UK Supreme Court judge Lord Hodge announces that the Equality Act’s definition of a woman is based on biological sex.
He counsels not to see this as a triumph for one side over another and stresses the law still gives trans people protection against discrimination.
(some hope on the last point)
An entirely reasonable and understandable judgment and doesn’t take away from woke at all.
Now we have to bring down the RNLI
This is done in his own time, and on 24 hour call in all weather, and he provides his services along with his other dedicated colleagues entirely free but has the same legal liability as any full time RNLI paid crew member including coxswains
This is why I will defend the RNLI against unwarranted attacks
Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
He’s more of a fox hunter than a barrister.Jolyon not taking the Supreme Court Judgement wellI don't believe that he spoke to three KC's who said that the case brought by For Women Scotland was inarguable.
https://x.com/tonydowson5/status/1912439059579814218?s=61
Inarguable cases do not go before the Supreme Court.
Jolyon is more activist than lawyer.
Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
It's possible to like JenrickNo it isn't.
Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.
- they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
- Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
- almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
Re: Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com
Tommy Robinson loses his appeal.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.