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Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

Every few months, a poster breathlessly comments about NEW AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION about ALIENS or UFOs.

And a couple of other posters (usually the same ones...) chime in about how it's going to be the BIGGEST WORLD-CHANGING NEWS!!!!

And every time, the information that was so important turns out to be a nothingburger. :)
Rather than being such a smug know it all, you should open your mind and go and read last year’s Schumer-Rounds amendment, written by the office of the Senate Majority Leader (so implicitly endorsed by the Biden White House) and sponsored and passed on a bipartisan basis, with the approval of Senate Gang of 8 leaders.

They are privy to much that we are not and thought it a priority to try and pass what must count as the most bizarre bill in US democratic history. Why? Then watch Schumer’s speech on the floor after Mike Turner and Mike Rogers killed it in House Committee, for confirmation of how high passions ran.

There is more than one answer to the question of wtf is going but it amazes me how unfascinated you are by the question. If the accusation was an equivalently sized criminal conspiracy in govt about any other area of public policy I suspect your interest level would differ.
I think part of the reason is that it has become an article of faith that UAP/UFO issues are for crazies, and that that cultural framing is very hard to overcome, particularly in a very often statistically-focused community like PB.

But recent political developments on UAP's, with the level of senior admissions of uncertainty, don't bear this out; this simply has yet to filter through to most of the media or wider public, though, because the social stigma on it, and worry of mockery, is still strong.
Get back to us when there's an Identified Flying Object.

Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

https://x.com/campbellclaret/status/1856357133299671371


ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Nothing I have seen or heard about the Smyth case has changed my view that
@JustinWelby
is a good man with a good heart, strong values and a commitment to public service. He was assured the police and other authorities were properly on the case. Yes, as he admits, he could have been more curious and checked in with exactly what was being done. He has apologised and I think many reasonable people will accept that. However he has chosen what all too few public figures do these days which is accept institutional responsibility. Ps for some reason I am getting calls from journalists who have been told I am handling his PR. I am not. I suspect that is being put around by those ultra conservative forces who have long wanted him gone, and who are aware that I see him from time to time.
That would have been a thoughtful and compassionate post except for the last line...
Alistair Campbell is a lying scumbag who has a problem coming to terms with the fact that people think he is a lying scumbag. People think that because he is proven, lying, scumbag.

And now he pops up to defend someone who tried to overrule and obfuscate….
We've actually had complaints from a number of lying scumbags about how unfair it is that they're grouped together with Alastair Campbell.

Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

“At least 14,000 children have had their ovaries or penises removed, breasts removed, or been surgically or chemically castrated in America in the past 5 years.”

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1856137706863997287?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

In 15 years we will look back on this insane era with a mixture of bewilderment and rancid shame
LeonLeon

Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

Betfair is back.
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Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

"Trump gained support from every racial group except white people, where he lost one percentage point when compared to 2020. You're going to chalk that up to racism?"

https://samharris.substack.com/p/the-reckoning
The Sam Harris piece is good, in particular his comment "everyone is in danger of believing that their pet issue explains everything that happened on Tuesday". Advice which he then goes on to ignore...

There's an old saying the success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.

Reality is very different. Look at almost any disaster (like the the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill): there wasn't one thing that went wrong, there many things that contributed. We all love simple explanations, [x] because of [y], but the reality is that many things contributed to the Democrats loss:

1. Economics / inflation
2. Border chaos
3. Identity politics
4. Biden's obvious infirmity (and who knew what when)
5. The lack of a clear message (other than Not Trump) for what the Democrats stood for
6. The Republicans generally better campaign
7. Fear of Trans
8. Harris being an average candidate (with the proviso that I think Newsom would have been worse)

Of these, I suspect that the first is the biggest issue (and I find it astonishing that since the 2022 Hungarian election, I can't find a single incumbent government that has gained votes), but they all played a role.

Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

The actual Dem campaign as opposed to the version being constructed by all the aftertimers.

The Serfs (youtube.com/theserftimes)
@theserfstv
"If what you want is a centrist campaign that's quiet on trans issues, tough on the border, distances itself from Palestinians, talks a lot about law and order, and reaches out to moderate Republicans, that candidate existed and she just lost"
~John Oliver on dems moving right
1:13 am · 12 Nov 2024

https://x.com/theserfstv/status/1856143282998284697
So we should disregard everything someone says or does before the official election campaign begins?

Harris wasn't "quiet on trans issues". She bragged about changing the policy in California to fund gender reassignment surgery for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention and previously said that she would use her executive authority as president to do the same for federal prisoners and detainees.

Re: Sauce for the goose – politicalbetting.com

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The actual Dem campaign as opposed to the version being constructed by all the aftertimers.

The Serfs (youtube.com/theserftimes)
@theserfstv
"If what you want is a centrist campaign that's quiet on trans issues, tough on the border, distances itself from Palestinians, talks a lot about law and order, and reaches out to moderate Republicans, that candidate existed and she just lost"
~John Oliver on dems moving right
1:13 am · 12 Nov 2024

https://x.com/theserfstv/status/1856143282998284697
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56516332

US President Joe Biden has put Vice-President Kamala Harris in charge of controlling migration at the southern border following a big influx of new arrivals.

Mr Biden said he was giving her a "tough job" but that she was "the most qualified person to do it".
And the Harris campaign was about what would be, not what has gone. The Dems were certainly promising to be tough on the border for all the good it did them.
You can't run on that as the incumbent party lol.
As the Tories found to their cost earlier this year.
TimSTimS

Re: A British Tradition – politicalbetting.com

The tragedy for Welby is that this will probably come to define his time as AoC. I don't think he's been particularly good in the role, but he will now be remembered for this.

If he has said: "Yes, I made a drastic mistake. I resign," then he would, at least, be seen as an honourable man. It would also give others who might be in a position to make such mistakes pause for thought (*); a precedent.

Not now.

(*) Yeah, right.
It would be a clear demonstration of the repentance that his church preaches.

Clinging on looks rather the opposite.
It’s pure NU10Kism

If a low level manager in an organisation systematically gundecked reports of abuse for decades, they’d be on “gardening leave” in 1 minute, followed by their possessions in a bag.

Then the organisation would be busy cooperating with the police about what charges etc, to try and “preserve their reputation”

Some solemn lectures about zero tolerance as the cherry on the cake.

Re: A British Tradition – politicalbetting.com

It's interesting, and I don't want to get all "told you so", but as recently as 18 months there was vociferous opposition on here to anyone who challenged identity politics with arguments to the effect that those who did were unhinged extremists prosecuting a culture war.

Turns out the mass of the people didn't like it either and if you put up a defence, it stops.