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Re: Too many tweets… – politicalbetting.com
The Lib Dems have extended their list of target seats.I increasingly think the Tories will gain seats back from the Liberal Democrats.Yes, about 40% of the 2019 Conservative vote has gone Reform, another 40% has stayed Tory and the remaining 20% has gone Labour or LD.One major impact with defections is defectors go from being political enemies to being principled heroes who have seen the light on how brilliant your party is. The same goes for Reform in their treatment of the 3 Tory ex MP defectors todayOne of the ironies of the Tory/Reform switchers is that the very people who have laid the Tories low - those who indulged Boris, and then gave us Truss - are the very same people clambering aboard the Reform ship. Leaving the more sensible Tories who have remained, blinking in the twilight and hoping that there might be an outbreak of commonsense sometime soon.
Thoughts on Kemi. What she has proven is that she is not an IDS-type dud. She does possess something a bit special, but remains some considerable distance from being perceived by the public as a credible alternative PM. This is why I favoured Cleverly. But she has stifled Jenrick, so that's something and seems to be getting the hang of it, a bit. All the same, there is no movement in the polls and next May still looks grim. So, the long run it is.
For May, I think the Conservatives will need to learn from Kenneth Baker who, back in the day, managed to persuade the media to focus on the results in Westminster and Wandsworth, and overlook what was happening everywhere else.
Of the Conservatives who have gone Reform, from the likes of Dorries, Kruger and Gullis down they are all from the Boris loyalist wing which switched to backing Truss in 2022 v Sunak and backed Jenrick over Kemi last year. Ironically that may sure up Kemi's position and increase Cleverly or Stride's chances too as the more Jenrick backers go Reform, the harder it will be for Jenrick to replace Kemi as Tory leader before the next general election.
You are also right, while the Tories will likely suffer losses overall in the local and devolved elections next May, they could gain Westminster and Barnet and should hold Kensington and Chelsea which Kemi and her backers would highlight
They've convinced themselves it's all permanent because Values and Brexit, but the more they act like Santa's little helper the more voters in affluent English seats will make the choice they need to.
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Re: Too many tweets… – politicalbetting.com
How many more Tory defections until the LibDems become the Official Opposition?The same number as before today - these aren't MPs.
Re: Too many tweets… – politicalbetting.com
FPT - I agree that plenty of Tories are repellent but there's no shortage of nastiness to go round in politics, sadly.
Plenty on the Left practice class warfare, vindictiveness, thinking wealth creators are subhuman, believe in intersectionality and all Whites being advantaged - and should thus be structurally disadvantaged - or actively celebrate violence and the punishment of traitors, lyrics of the Red Flag being very clear.
Bigotry isn't confined to any one part of the political spectrum.
Plenty on the Left practice class warfare, vindictiveness, thinking wealth creators are subhuman, believe in intersectionality and all Whites being advantaged - and should thus be structurally disadvantaged - or actively celebrate violence and the punishment of traitors, lyrics of the Red Flag being very clear.
Bigotry isn't confined to any one part of the political spectrum.
Re: Too many tweets… – politicalbetting.com
I got home from work to a letter from SSE.; it was a cheque for £140 to compensate for the power cut
While I was opening the letter I put some music on, through my few years old Minirig 1 speaker and appreciated how clear and loud the sound still is
I then checked my email, and had one from Minirig offering me a massive £10 off the cost of their Minirig 4 speaker, bringing the cost down to £140
I ordered one straight away
I highly recommend Minirig. Their speakers are high quality, extremely durable and great value
They're made in Bristol, so we can buy British
I think they'd make an awesome Christmas present
https://minirigs.co.uk/speakers/bluetooth-minirig-4
Oh, and the massive tenner off is only until midnight tonight
While I was opening the letter I put some music on, through my few years old Minirig 1 speaker and appreciated how clear and loud the sound still is
I then checked my email, and had one from Minirig offering me a massive £10 off the cost of their Minirig 4 speaker, bringing the cost down to £140
I ordered one straight away
I highly recommend Minirig. Their speakers are high quality, extremely durable and great value
They're made in Bristol, so we can buy British
I think they'd make an awesome Christmas present
https://minirigs.co.uk/speakers/bluetooth-minirig-4
Oh, and the massive tenner off is only until midnight tonight
Re: Too many tweets… – politicalbetting.com
First thought - I had never heard of any of these people before today.
Second thought - Richard Tice's tweet to Gullis has a pretty nasty threatening tone to it. They're just not very nice people.
Second thought - Richard Tice's tweet to Gullis has a pretty nasty threatening tone to it. They're just not very nice people.
Re: Too many tweets… – politicalbetting.com
As a conservative I have no issue with ex conservatives defecting to Reform and by default accepting Farage's far right policies
Even if I am the last conservative standing, I will not vote for Reform or Labour
And on standing, I have finally been awarded a blue badge today that will help in my battle against my recent loss of mobility
Even if I am the last conservative standing, I will not vote for Reform or Labour
And on standing, I have finally been awarded a blue badge today that will help in my battle against my recent loss of mobility
Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
I got a cheap advent calendar off eBay.
I think it must be Russian, as I opened a couple of windows, and what looked like a general and a businessman fell out.
I think it must be Russian, as I opened a couple of windows, and what looked like a general and a businessman fell out.
Nigelb
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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
Or LD but only as a tactical vote, she is managing, on leave until January, thanks for askingOr LD if he's a Bath resident.Since he has been able to vote 90% likely he voted Labour or GreenIf he's a student he's probably only be able to vote for a couple of years.Of course I do, he was asked to serve at a Tory do so I suspect was looking for any bad behaviour in a way he probably wouldn't at a standard corporate do. So latched onto one Tory member's rude comment (which was standard banter in most schools sadly when I was growing up) and a comment made by probably less than 1% of attendees and then has endlessly whinged about it to you.You have zero evidence for the bit in bold. Zero. The student brought the story up un prompted when he saw me today.Anecdote - Why is the Tory party so full of shits and wankers?Not excusing the behaviour of the member who used 'retard' as an insult but that student was clearly anti Tory beforehand i suspect and would never have voted Tory anyway. Bath is also a seat the Tories failed to even win in 2019 when they won a landslide UK wide
One of my students works in a Bath hotel. Played host to the local Tory party Christmas do. Poor behaviour all round - called a member of staff 'a retard'.
That's one student never voting Tory.
Has he voted Tory at all in the last 10 years? if not, I rest my case!
Incidentally, Mr HYUFD, how is your wife doing these days? Coming to terms with the situation I hope.
HYUFD
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Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
Best wishes to you both, HY. Conscious that Christmas may be a challenging time for you.Or LD but only as a tactical vote, she is managing, on leave until January, thanks for askingOr LD if he's a Bath resident.Since he has been able to vote 90% likely he voted Labour or GreenIf he's a student he's probably only be able to vote for a couple of years.Of course I do, he was asked to serve at a Tory do so I suspect was looking for any bad behaviour in a way he probably wouldn't at a standard corporate do. So latched onto one Tory member's rude comment (which was standard banter in most schools sadly when I was growing up) and a comment made by probably less than 1% of attendees and then has endlessly whinged about it to you.You have zero evidence for the bit in bold. Zero. The student brought the story up un prompted when he saw me today.Anecdote - Why is the Tory party so full of shits and wankers?Not excusing the behaviour of the member who used 'retard' as an insult but that student was clearly anti Tory beforehand i suspect and would never have voted Tory anyway. Bath is also a seat the Tories failed to even win in 2019 when they won a landslide UK wide
One of my students works in a Bath hotel. Played host to the local Tory party Christmas do. Poor behaviour all round - called a member of staff 'a retard'.
That's one student never voting Tory.
Has he voted Tory at all in the last 10 years? if not, I rest my case!
Incidentally, Mr HYUFD, how is your wife doing these days? Coming to terms with the situation I hope.
Re: Not the headlines Starmer would want to wake up to – politicalbetting.com
Indeed, you never do but you learn to manage and cope I suppose and sorry to hear about your child's bereavement too, even though they clearly lived a full life it was nonetheless sadly cut short.One never gets over the loss of a child. Even when, as in our case the 'child' was an adult, with children of her own!Thanks. Yes, we are just having a quiet one this year in DartmoorBest wishes to you both, HY. Conscious that Christmas may be a challenging time for you.Or LD but only as a tactical vote, she is managing, on leave until January, thanks for askingOr LD if he's a Bath resident.Since he has been able to vote 90% likely he voted Labour or GreenIf he's a student he's probably only be able to vote for a couple of years.Of course I do, he was asked to serve at a Tory do so I suspect was looking for any bad behaviour in a way he probably wouldn't at a standard corporate do. So latched onto one Tory member's rude comment (which was standard banter in most schools sadly when I was growing up) and a comment made by probably less than 1% of attendees and then has endlessly whinged about it to you.You have zero evidence for the bit in bold. Zero. The student brought the story up un prompted when he saw me today.Anecdote - Why is the Tory party so full of shits and wankers?Not excusing the behaviour of the member who used 'retard' as an insult but that student was clearly anti Tory beforehand i suspect and would never have voted Tory anyway. Bath is also a seat the Tories failed to even win in 2019 when they won a landslide UK wide
One of my students works in a Bath hotel. Played host to the local Tory party Christmas do. Poor behaviour all round - called a member of staff 'a retard'.
That's one student never voting Tory.
Has he voted Tory at all in the last 10 years? if not, I rest my case!
Incidentally, Mr HYUFD, how is your wife doing these days? Coming to terms with the situation I hope.
For our part we have buried Theo's ashes in the Parish church near my parents with a nice view of the valley so at least convenient to visit
HYUFD
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