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Rather curious that at a time like this Zelensky has chosen to visit Ireland.

Where he was welcomed by President Connolly.

Wiki:

"Ideologically left-wing, Connolly describes herself as a socialist and pacifist.[4] A supporter of Irish neutrality, her foreign policy views were described by Politico as "often anti-Western";[5] she is critical of NATO, the European Union's increased military and defence spending and general European militarisation.[6] Connolly has condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine and has also described NATO's attitude toward Russia as "warmongering".

Fat lot of use she is.

You see the Irish have no experience of a neighbour invading and occupying them, if they did they would be more positive to Ukraine.

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This page of comments is certainly not in line with polling. It goes, to the best of my knowledge: Reform, [Reform? I assume], Tory, Tory, Reform, Tory, [?? I’ve no idea what Sunil votes], Tory, Tory, Reform, Lib Dem, Reform, and now Lib Dem.

Labour, Green, Reform and DNV are probably under-represented on here. Conservative and Lib Dem are over-represented.

I’d guess most here are far less swingy than the average voters.

I would say LDs are over represented on here, Tories and Labour and Green and SNP about average represented based on percentage of posters and their voteshare percentage wise UK wide.

Reform posters though are seriously under represented given Reform now lead the polls

Is any poster on this thread tonight willing to openly say they will vote Reform at the next GE?

I did at the last one. Not sure next time, I quite like Kemi

So with you and LuckyGuy we have potentially half a Reform voter each, so at most rounded up to a single Reform voter the entire thread

Aubrey Allegretti
@breeallegretti


Ed Miliband urges Labour MPs to keep the faith:

“Polls are not a forecast they’re a snapshot. If they were a forecast, I’d be currently celebrating my 10th year as prime minister,” he tells the @NewStatesman Christmas reception.

“I was 15 points ahead of David Cameron… Fatalism and pessimism never lifted a single child out of poverty, created a single job or won a single vote for the Labour Party.”

Miliband quotes a woman he met recently, who said she didn’t like Nigel Farage but still warned him: “If you don’t sort it out you’ll get extremism.”

But Miliband strikes a note of optimism: “Reform are incredibly vulnerable and totally beatable. I am absolutely confident we can beat them.”

https://x.com/breeallegretti/status/1995958479891144782

That woman is absolutely nailed on to vote Reform. That's exactly what you'd say if you were a Reform voter wanting to be polite to David Milliband, but still felt it was important to register some discontentment out of principle. David Milliband the silly man thinks that's a vote in his box.

You've used the American spelling of Ed Miliband.

Rather curious that at a time like this Zelensky has chosen to visit Ireland.

Where he was welcomed by President Connolly.

Wiki:

"Ideologically left-wing, Connolly describes herself as a socialist and pacifist.[4] A supporter of Irish neutrality, her foreign policy views were described by Politico as "often anti-Western";[5] she is critical of NATO, the European Union's increased military and defence spending and general European militarisation.[6] Connolly has condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine and has also described NATO's attitude toward Russia as "warmongering".

Fat lot of use she is.

You see the Irish have no experience of a neighbour invading and occupying them, if they did they would be more positive to Ukraine.

Even our Green Party, with probably reluctance, said NATO had a legitimate role to play though.

Russia is upset the mean Europeans aren't letting it gain through a 'peace deal' what it's failed to achieve through nearly four years of war and a million dead soldiers.

I have always felt that the crucial test for any Democratic candidate is whether you can imagine them being able to rock up to a bar and talk with ordinary working Americans.

You could imagine Joe Biden doing that before age did for him. But never, in a million years, Kamala or Hillary.

Mark Kelly? Yep.

Your crucial test is very much a bloke's test, so it's no surprise Kamala and Hillary fail. Same over here - the "who'd be good company and fun to have a pint with in a pub?" test has a male bias.

I’d imagine both Hilary and Kamala would probably be fascinating company over a drink. I appreciate I’m not the US presidential target audience, but I think Democrats are often guilty of drinking too much of the Republican koolaid.

John McCain once referred to Hilary as '...a hell of a gal.' I think we can take it they got on well. Not sure, but I think she likes a tipple and can hold her liquor.

But they are both swifts, and girly swots at that. For a small but apparently decisive slice of the US electorate, that's enough to rule them out. It shouldn't, but it does.

I thought for a moment you meant John McCain.

Same problem for him: being the inventor of the oven chip put him beyond the pale for many Americans, who call them fries.

"Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️‍⚧️
@LeftieStats

➡️ REF: 31% (+4)
🔵 CON: 21% (+1)
🔴 LAB: 20% (-2)
🟠 LD: 12% (-1)
🟢 GRN: 8% (+2)
🟣 YP: 4% (-4)

Via
@Moreincommon_
, 28 Nov-1 Dec (+/- vs July)"

https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/1995827789380157840

• This poll from MoreInCommon: https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/1995827789380157840
  
• The previous poll from MoreInCommon: https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/1991108455600644575
  

The current poll is being compared with a hypothetical MIC poll containing YP from July, not from the last MIC.

I know. That was the point I was making. They're picking the wrong comparator

Nah, YP are in the main prompts with this poll and the July poll, usually YP aren’t prompted, they are lumped in with others.

Delighted, if surprised, to see Yorkshire Party on 4% nationally. Assuming those voters are concentrated in Yorkshire, we'll likely see an SNP 2015-style near clean-sweep for YP. Bet accordingly (and DYOR!)