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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Blocked.Speaking of which, your regular reminder that several PBers have Bluesky accountsPBers blathering on how they stay away from Bluesky cos it's a woke echo chamber remind me a bit of those who kept endlessly reminding everyone of which other PBers they'd blocked. Why quietly ignore people/things when you can make a big song and dance about it is very much the zeitgeist.
https://bsky.app/starter-pack/mattwardman.bsky.social/3lfk4fvp5yv26
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
He's still alive.Poor Tom Lehrer - for some reason I can’t imagine him spinning smoothly in his grave. More jerking spasmodically all over the place..If only Kissinger was alive to pontificate on this form of statecraft.https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1937238008140562772Hahahaha.
Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was "set free," because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of their "system," and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
All it lacks after his name is "aged 79 and one fortieth".https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1937238008140562772The man is as mad as a March hare.
Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was "set free," because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of their "system," and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Chris
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Easily repelled attack against a largely abandoned US base ?
De-escalating move tbh
De-escalating move tbh
Pulpstar
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Just spent 5 mins on BlueSky. Discovered most people on there don't like Israel very much. Left the site.What is the point of debating in an echo chamber where everyone roughly agrees politically? A big part of PB's success over the last twenty years has been the very robust cross party political debate (with a special shout out to MalcolmG) as well as the knowledgeable contributions from so many of the posters on a range of issues/topics? I don't know how many times I came away from the site thinking every day is a school day here when I learnt something new on an electic range of subjects.
fitalass
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
*de-lurks*Can I plead with you to delurk permanently? The whys and wherefores of the last war seem meaningless compared to the direct realities of this new war. You are far closer than we are and your input to discussions would be very much appreciated.
Is World War III about to kick off?
*re-lurks*
Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Am I the only one who thinks Starmer is doing okay (just okay, not amazing)?I agree. Given a hypothetical choice, a world run by, say, Starmer and Macron would be considerably safer and saner than one run by Trump, Netanyahu and Putin.
I'm not so deluded as to think the UK is a world power, or even a major regional one anymore.
I don't think whomever is in charge could seriously turn things around; whether that be Badenoch, Starmer, Farage, Davey or Denyer.
We're living in bad times, with bad actors like Trump, Xi, Putin all pretending to be the good guys but doing horrible things, and no one really wants to make the tough choices to stop them, or explain to us that, yep, our economies are so interlinked if Trump fucks up America, he fucks up the world.....
Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Yes, first time I've got through.A contributor on LBC this evening said in the face of Trump and Netanyahu thank goodness for Starmer and Macron.Phew, thank goodness for that "arguably".Arguably the world was run by Starmers and Macrons in the past and their failure to address the underlying problems created the conditions that Trump et al could winAm I the only one who thinks Starmer is doing okay (just okay, not amazing)?I agree. Given a hypothetical choice, a world run by, say, Starmer and Macron
I'm not so deluded as to think the UK is a world power, or even a major regional one anymore.
I don't think whomever is in charge could seriously turn things around; whether that be Badenoch, Starmer, Farage, Davey or Denyer.
We're living in bad times, with bad actors like Trump, Xi, Putin all pretending to be the good guys but doing horrible things, and no one really wants to make the tough choices to stop them, or explain to us that, yep, our economies are so interlinked if Trump fucks up America, he fucks up the world.....
would be considerably safer and saner than one run by Trump, Netanyahu and Putin.
kinabalu
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Maybe best to leave it? You don't want to be a broken record on this.Physical location does not matter. Neither does stated attachments.Ah but will he be treated with courtesy and respect, or subjected to the usual PB purity test where not holding one view automatically makes you a shill for our enemies ?*de-lurks*Can I plead with you to delurk permanently? The whys and wherefores of the last war seem meaningless compared to the direct realities of this new war. You are far closer than we are and your input to discussions would be very much appreciated.
Is World War III about to kick off?
*re-lurks*
With his personal investment in both Ukraine and the Middle East why subject yourself to it from people thousands of miles away 🤔
You simply cannot support Ukraine and Trump. I treated @Sandpit with courtesy and respect, whilst pointing that out. I often liked his comments, and valued his input. But it did not detract from the fact you simply cannot support Trump and Ukraine.
If Sandpit would like to tell us how the first ~6 months of Trump's presidency has helped Ukraine, I'd be all ears.
You may think it's logically inconsistent, but he's hardly the only person to have logically inconsistent views...
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Re: Ipsos brings bad news for Starmer – politicalbetting.com
They’re what’s left of the Corbynites from 2015.Qatar threatening to respond to the attack. Regional war anyone?The Free Palestine lot won’t know who to back if Arab states join the war on Israel’s side.
In their minds the “bad” people are the UK, US, and Israel, and they’ll support anyone against those three nations.
Sandpit
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