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Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
As we saw in the local elections in Surrey heath and Guildford last Thursday, once the Lib Dems get in, they quickly turn their electoral inroads into fortresses. The size of the majorities of Lib Dem MPs are on average substantially higher than the Tories- yes, bad as 2024 was for Sunak, it could have been so much worse. So its an asymmetrical fight on the Lib Dem/Conservative axis- easier for Lib Dems to take more Tory seats than Tories to recover seats from the Lib Dems, especially if RefUK are stealing more Tory votes.While Reform is Farage and Farage is Reform, have a look at how the LibDems organise. If they lost Ed Davey (and one can only hope) the LD ground game will continue as they are very effective locally. Reform's success or failure will depend on what kind of organisation they can build locally and all eyes should be on how they cope with the 11 Counties they have under their control. Don't write them off yet.Betting positions should be factoring in the What Happens If of Farage not being a political figure by the next election. It could be health, it could be his back story. 5 and 6 will both have chunky dossiers, accessible by the Government.Some consistent problems for Farage- questionable funding. Doubt we'll see a GBN investigation on this any time soon. However NF has quite the form here, who knows if it were to come out, at an inconvenient moment...@Gabriel_PogrundSssshhh!
EXCLUSIVE w/
@ManuMidolo
Nigel Farage’s partner is embroiled in a criminal fraud investigation
Lauren Ferrari ran a eurosceptic group, which, auditors said, spent up to €200K in public funds in breach of rules
“Serious irregularities” were passed to OLAF, EU anti-fraud office, which launched a parallel probe into a sister entity of which Farage was member
Now, it can be revealed, OLAF secretly passed the case involving the groups to law enforcement
A Brussels court will deliver a judgement on the case within weeks
https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1979653548850721004
Anyone really think Tice is going to inherit his mantle? If not and by the election Reform is on 3% rather than 30%, the world of domestic politics is almost unfathomable this far out.
Half of LibDem MP's have seats in the top decile (IMD measure). They dominate that decile having as many MP's as the other parties put together. That's incredible targeting.
I do not think that RefUK are going to come anywhere close to a majority, the combination of lurking scandal, tactical voting against them and the "capricious" nature of the leadership are head winds that they will find extremely difficult to overcome,. The vagaries of FPTP notwithstanding, I think it more likely that the Conservatives recover enough to cancel RefUK gains in most places outside Lincs and the former Red Wall. With the Lib Dems set to hold and maybe even make gains, the conundrum is what happens to Labour, and that is not yet clear- still years from the next election and many courses open to them. Then the return of twenty or even thirty SNP MPs also confuses the maths still more. The rise of the Greens is interesting too. The Corbyn chaos of "your" party will not, in my judgement be so significant- Corbyn will be almost 80 at the next GE.
I am not sure either punters or the politicos are factoring in this increasingly higher chance for No Overall Control at Westminster, and that could be very interesting. If the numbers for a Con/RefUk coalition do not add up, and Labour/Green/Nat do not add up, then with a big block of MPs behind him, Ed Davey might not just be Kingmaker, but maybe even King. So all those rushing in to back a 320 seat gain for RefUK should take note that such a surge has *never* happened, and the maths in each seat has to fall exactly right- and their record high poll has only been 35%. Winning a majority on a third of the vote is possible- Labour just did it- but is is a fluke when it happens. I don't think RefUK can do it, especially when we see the amateurish way they run councils and themselves.
More and more, therefore, I think the numbers speak to a hung Parliament, and one which will find it extremely difficult to construct a government. We may look back with nostalgia on this current time in British politics as the calm before the storm.
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Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
WellThe Grand Old Duke of YorkOh, the Creepy Old Duke of YorkIt also said abuse accuser, as opposed to abuser. Making it clear it was an accusation not a fact.The issue with that suggestion is that however we look at it, Giuffre had been trafficked. Which changes the equation with regard to consent.Prince Andrew tried to smear his teenage sex abuse accuser by passing her confidential information to police, it has been claimed.Or, two adults over the age of consent freely engaged in intercourse. The lack of consent seems to be vague. Dirty old man, clearly, but teenage sex abuser seems a stretch.
The Prince asked his taxpayer-funded police bodyguard to investigate Virginia Giuffre and passed him her date of birth and social security number, a leaked email revealed.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/10/18/prince-andrew-tried-to-dig-up-dirt-on-giuffre/
He had ten thousand women
He marched them up to the top of his hill
And he marched them down again
And while they were there he was up
And when they were gone he was down.
And when he was only halfway up
He sent for a teenage girl because he was a fucking clown.
He said he didn’t sweat,
So, why did he pay 12 million quid,
To a girl he’d never met!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFu8P7teOt8

Taz
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Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
The Grand Old Duke of YorkOh, the Creepy Old Duke of YorkIt also said abuse accuser, as opposed to abuser. Making it clear it was an accusation not a fact.The issue with that suggestion is that however we look at it, Giuffre had been trafficked. Which changes the equation with regard to consent.Prince Andrew tried to smear his teenage sex abuse accuser by passing her confidential information to police, it has been claimed.Or, two adults over the age of consent freely engaged in intercourse. The lack of consent seems to be vague. Dirty old man, clearly, but teenage sex abuser seems a stretch.
The Prince asked his taxpayer-funded police bodyguard to investigate Virginia Giuffre and passed him her date of birth and social security number, a leaked email revealed.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/10/18/prince-andrew-tried-to-dig-up-dirt-on-giuffre/
He had ten thousand women
He marched them up to the top of his hill
And he marched them down again
And while they were there he was up
And when they were gone he was down.
And when he was only halfway up
He sent for a teenage girl because he was a fucking clown.
He said he didn’t sweat,
So, why did he pay 12 million quid,
To a girl he’d never met!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFu8P7teOt8
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Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
No Kings is an utterly brilliant slogan. It's a slogan not analysis, they don't need to worry about constitutional monarchies or whatever. The proof that it's doing it right is that they've just mobilized the biggest nationwide demonstration since the Vietnam War and kept it almost entirely peaceful."No Kings" is a really stupid slogan, because as you say it completely ignores the existence of constitutional monarchies, and anyway Trump has never claimed to be a king. Presidential systems tend naturally towards dictatorships, and America (or France for that matters) would actually be better as a constitutional monarchy with a Parliamentary system, but then they'd basically be Canada or Australia, and have to question the whole revolution thing.On the "No Kings" protest: When the Loser came on the political scene, I quickly noticed that he was a monarchist at heart. He cozied up to the Saudis, to North Korea's Kim, and to the UK's monarchs. These three nations have little in common, but they are all monarchies of a sort.Most kings are highly constrained and aren't nearly as despotic as Trump. But I guess "No tinpot dictators" lacks the resonance of "No Kings"
And his promotion of his children is almost universal in monarchies.
So, by attacking him with "No Kings", they are attacking a central part of his thinking -- such as it is.
(Moreover, as your Walter Bagehot observed, monarchies are often attractive to low-information voters.)
What they actually mean is "No Dictators", which I think we can all sign up to. Trump has actually said he'd be a dictator, albeit only on Day One, which was a transparent lie, so I think it makes much more sense as a slogan, even though it has a three syllable word, which is probably at the limits of most Americans' comprehension.
1. It references the founding myth of the nation
2. It allows for fun fancy dress
3. It negatively polarizes the other side into saying "Yes, we want Trump to be King" which is a good thing to have out on the table
Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
On the "No Kings" protest: When the Loser came on the political scene, I quickly noticed that he was a monarchist at heart. He cozied up to the Saudis, to North Korea's Kim, and to the UK's monarchs. These three nations have little in common, but they are all monarchies of a sort.
And his promotion of his children is almost universal in monarchies.
So, by attacking him with "No Kings", they are attacking a central part of his thinking -- such as it is.
(Moreover, as your Walter Bagehot observed, monarchies are often attractive to low-information voters.)
And his promotion of his children is almost universal in monarchies.
So, by attacking him with "No Kings", they are attacking a central part of his thinking -- such as it is.
(Moreover, as your Walter Bagehot observed, monarchies are often attractive to low-information voters.)
Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
There's a perfectly well functioning constitutional monarchy a couple of hundred miles north of the protest lolI find it fascinating in America that they find "no Kings" a more effective political slogan than "no dictators".I can’t believe that George III had anything like the direct personal power over the lives of people in the now US than Trump has. They would be better with a constitutional monarch than an all powerful President.
I presume this is inherited myth-making from the original "Patriots", but George III was never an absolute monarch, and that was just propaganda.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93xgyp1zv4o
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Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
I don't know how to break this to you, but the Tories did a whole stack of things - including big tax rises - that they now decry Labour copying. Watching Coutinho slag off the policies she herself was doing as SofS is particularly amusing.Not with their family farm taxOn any traditional definition of political sides, Labour occupy the Centre Right position formerly taken by CameroonMorning allIt’s not just the right who dislike this government. Not by a long way.
As someone fairly ambivalent about Starmer and Reeves, I'm interested to see whether the antipathy toward them is personal or just the usual antipathy toward Labour Prime Ministers from those on the conservative side of the fence. I suspect, were Starmer to leave and another Labour PM to be in office, the antipathy would readily transfer to the new individual.
Ho hum...in any case, short of an outright Cabinet mutiny, the only two reasonable and legal ways Starmer leaves office are either a) voluntarily or b) democratically in an election. The latter isn't on the horizon and the former will only happen once a rubicon of sorts is crossed and he simply doesn't want to do the job any longer. He's been in the job 15 months not 15 years so I suspect for all the crap, he may went on to go on a little while yet.
We know the Budget is going to be horrible - it's the reckoning at the end of the party or the meal - the bill is on the table and we have to pay up. Reeves is going to raise taxes and cut spending - we know that as well. How imaginative she will be remains to be seen but it's going to be unpleasant - we all know that.
It’s that part of the left (nearly a fifth of the voters), that supports the Greens/Your Party. They see Israel/Gaza as the defining issue of our times, and can’t understand why that country is not subject to comprehensive economic, and even military, sanctions.
Domestically, they want a government that imposes punitive taxes on “the rich” (anyone earning £50 k +,) drives landlords out of business, rejoins the EU, and overturns the Supreme Court’s ruling on sex/gender discrimination.
They do, bizarrely but sincerely, see Starmer as a disguised right winger.
and One Nation Tories.
and NI rise on employers and bungs to train drivers and GPs and removal of hereditàry peers they don't. Labour under Starmer are basically back to Brown Labour not even Blairites.
There is a case to say Davey's LDs are Cameroon but not Labour
This cloth-eared tendency may be a good part of why you are so low in the polls...
Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
The UK is finished and there is no polite way to put it. What was once called a developed nation has become a playground for corrupt politicians, greedy corporations, and parasitic landlords feeding on people who are simply trying to survive. The working class has been gutted from the inside out. People are working full time, even taking on second jobs, and still cannot cover the basic cost of living. It is not about laziness or poor budgeting. It is that the system itself has been designed to bleed every last drop of effort, money, and dignity from the average person.Thing is Dimitri that in your country you get your oil refineries blown up by drones. Saying that we are finished just makes us laugh at you more.
Everything that once made this country liveable has been dismantled. A home that cost £700 a month a decade ago now costs £1,500 or more, often for damp, mouldy, low quality flats. Food prices have exploded to the point where a hundred pounds barely fills two carrier bags. Council tax, gas, electricity, fuel, water, and insurance all rise year after year while wages remain frozen. It no longer feels like you are earning money. It feels like you are temporarily renting it before it gets snatched away through endless hidden charges and taxes.
The government taxes income, property, spending, savings, fuel, and even death. You are taxed to live and taxed to die. Nothing is free and nothing is fair. Meanwhile the people who create nothing and contribute nothing keep pocketing bonuses, handouts, and expense claims that could feed entire families for a year. The rich buy influence, politicians sell out, and the rest of us are left fighting over scraps while being told to “tighten our belts.”
https://x.com/zthoupaul/status/1976892490247503997
Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
"I would like to have seen Montana..."Damn, my wife says we are NEVER getting to America.No, someone with far fewer redeeming features.Voldemort?This is Washington: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:z6rujpf4u56jfie7aqic2nfg/post/3m3ibpdshq22y?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2025%2F10%2F18%2F2349211%2F-No-Kings-Rally-LiveBlog
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I have never seen a protest this large in New York in my entire life.
I've lived here my entire life.
https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1979594998627860936
Its a hell of a lot bigger crowd than turned up for you know who's inauguration.
Re: Dominic Cummings is right – politicalbetting.com
Fireworks – Diwali soon.How is it different from "bonfire" night now?
So many villages, towns and schools have pulled the bonfire- what it's actually about, due to insurance and liability concerns - that kids now will have absolutely no idea of the significance of the fireworks or understanding of our history.



