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Every sane patriotic Brit - and that is surely most of us - has to vote Reform, now. It’s the only choice. It’s that or the abyss

Farage is a traitor. I'll take the abyss

Farage is the abyss.

lol

You live in Trumpland. Is your life falling apart? Get a grip you pitiful bleating no-mark

Better a no-mark than a skid-mark, perhaps.
You ranting old roué.

No one cares what you think, what you do, what you say. You’re some pitiful wandering mediocre middle manager in marketing who doesn’t even live in the UK

Why don’t you grow up and join an American politics site? That’s where you live. Because your views on here on the UK are increasingly irrelevant, clueless and awkwardly uninformed. So much so they become embarrassing

Perhaps. Though at least I don’t spam the site with fascist drivel and tasteless interior design content, like some kind of Laurence Llewellyn Bormann.

STATEMENT

I have been on this forum since 2014 and it is without doubt the outstanding place for political discourse, robust arguments, and hopefully influence to the powers that be

Throughout this time I have tried to contribute honestly and wherever possible provide links

I use a wide range of sources including Sky which is on most of the time, but also the BBC and articles from the telegraph, guardian, independent and some times guido and other media

I have consistently expressed my opposition to Farage and Reform, Trump and the far right, and my worries about the state of our politics

I openly support the conservative party, but am a one nation conservative who actually voted remain though am pleased we have exited the EU

However, overnight and whilst I was not on this forum @Gardenwalker made an ignorant and unsubstantiated accusation against me that has made me question why I contribute when my words can be taken so much out of context. He said:

'Why is @Big_G_NorthWales ranting about Antifa now? He needs to get off Guido or whatever alt-right nut-shop he’s frequenting'


The comments came from Sky last night in a live interview with the Chief Executive of Campaign against antisemitism and he commented as I posted


Ban these protests which are even taking place now

Also BBC cannot call Hamas terrorist

And Antifa in the UK is promoted

21% has entrenched antisemitic views, raising to 40% of young people

Blood of British Jews cries out from the ground


If @Gardenwalker had even bothered to find my post he would have seen the context and I believe he owes me an apology

It also seems that he (and others) have this obssession over my comments (and very many others) at the time of the beer and curry incident which were seeking the truth about Starmer's involvement and for which he was cleared and I accepted the due process was followed

I am thick skinned but @Gardenwalker crossed a line, and I have even considered whether I wish to continue but I am not going to let him win on this and hope he will have the decency to apologise for his unjust comments

Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.

Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.

If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.

But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.

*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.

You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".

We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.

Well, Hezbollah Hamas and ISIS are all terrorist organisations so waving their flags is illegal. Arrests should happen.

Who is calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide?

"From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" is arguably not a call for genocide. The Jewish occupation of Palestine is unfortunately yet another 19th/20th century colonial conflict that has yet to be worked out.

Don't be ridiculous. Yes it is a call for the slaughter of Jews as Hamas has made clear. Hamas has expressly urged its followers to kill Jews everywhere in the world, wherever they can be found. Israel was the homeland of the Jews long before the Palestinians even existed. Israel is not a colonial venture but a legally constituted state created by the UN. It has as much right to exist as Pakistan and Jordan which are also the result of colonialism, if you want to go down that route. If you want a colonial empire to blame, the various Arab, Ottoman and Persian empires are just as much to blame for the messes in that part of the world.

On a day when Jews praying on their most important holy day are murdered, common decency should have demanded a moment's thought for the Jewish community, not the waving of flags of those who are and have been gleeful at the murder of Jews.

Freedom of speech is the right to offend.

Yes if people were marching/driving through Finchley chanting for Jews to be killed, they should have been prosecuted. If not, the CPS should be required to say why. They are our servants.

Palestine was not a (particularly) Jewish homeland between the Roman sack of Jerusalem and the First Aliyah. The settlement was mostly Western colonialism taking advantage of Ottoman weakness.

Yes Israel has the right to exist, but the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is effectively a colonial war that needs to be settled.

Jews are not colonialists in Israel. If anything, they are more like the First Nation. And the atrocity today is why so many Jews, wherever they live, feel the need to have a homeland of their own because they cannot trust us to keep them safe, not to turn on them. I am ashamed that this should be so.

Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.

Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.

If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.

But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.

*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.

You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".

We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.

Well, Hezbollah Hamas and ISIS are all terrorist organisations so waving their flags is illegal. Arrests should happen.

Who is calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide?

"From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" is arguably not a call for genocide. The Jewish occupation of Palestine is unfortunately yet another 19th/20th century colonial conflict that has yet to be worked out.

Don't be ridiculous. Yes it is a call for the slaughter of Jews as Hamas has made clear. Hamas has expressly urged its followers to kill Jews everywhere in the world, wherever they can be found. Israel was the homeland of the Jews long before the Palestinians even existed. Israel is not a colonial venture but a legally constituted state created by the UN. It has as much right to exist as Pakistan and Jordan which are also the result of colonialism, if you want to go down that route. If you want a colonial empire to blame, the various Arab, Ottoman and Persian empires are just as much to blame for the messes in that part of the world.

On a day when Jews praying on their most important holy day are murdered, common decency should have demanded a moment's thought for the Jewish community, not the waving of flags of those who are and have been gleeful at the murder of Jews.