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Anyway: this is it. This is PMQs for the next four years, or however long Mr Corbyn remains Labour leader. Any question he asks the Prime Minister, on any topic (today: the abolition of student maintenance grants), will be met with an onslaught of jeers about Trident, trade unions, terrorism, Marxism, patriotism, pacifism, the Falklands, Hamas, Stop the War, Nato, Paris, Syria and Hilary Benn. Helplessly scrambling to shield themselves, the Labour party will be unable to advance an inch.

I glanced down to where Mr Corbyn was sitting. All I could make out was a forlorn smudge of beige.

Wanderer said:

The person deepest underwater is Jeb.

MarqueeMark said:

Wanderer said:

The person deepest underwater is Jeb.

America has just spent 8 years cleansing itself of the memory of President George W. It's a couple of decades yet before the Bush brand is electable.

SquareRoot said:

Plato_Says said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/12111086/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-getting-crushed-at-PMQs...-and-theres-no-hope-in-sight.html

Anyway: this is it. This is PMQs for the next four years, or however long Mr Corbyn remains Labour leader. Any question he asks the Prime Minister, on any topic (today: the abolition of student maintenance grants), will be met with an onslaught of jeers about Trident, trade unions, terrorism, Marxism, patriotism, pacifism, the Falklands, Hamas, Stop the War, Nato, Paris, Syria and Hilary Benn. Helplessly scrambling to shield themselves, the Labour party will be unable to advance an inch.

I glanced down to where Mr Corbyn was sitting. All I could make out was a forlorn smudge of beige.

Wanderer said:

Trump's negative score is quite a lot worse than Hillary's. Worse in total (only candidate over 50% poor/terrible) and worse in that most of it is "terrible".

Morris_Dancer said:

I do wonder if this might somewhat backfire. Only on a small scale, but could it help the blues in Scotland win a couple of seats?

Moses_ said:

More trouble at mill... Matt Chorley The times

abour infighting claims Comrade Coleman
There is trouble in Team Corbyn.

Last night The Times broke the news that Neale Coleman, one of Jeremy Corbyn's top aides, was quitting over feuding in the Labour leader's office.Coleman is head of rebuttal and a former aide to both Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson.

He resigned after a row with Seumas Milne, the Labour leader's media and political adviser.

One senior Labour source said Milne had repeatedly briefed against Coleman and wanted him gone. The insider said: "Seumas thinks he's head of strategy, head of communications, head of policy and chief of staff all in one."

Kate Hoey, the Labour MP, tweeted that it was a "big loss" if Coleman had left, describing him as "someone who can see the wood from the trees".

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. G, a morris dancer is never silly.

rottenborough said:

CarlottaVance said:

Moses_ said:

He resigned after a row with Seumas Milne, the Labour leader's media and political adviser.

Curiously enough the Guardian had a different slant on the story from other outlets (including left wing ones) - something about him 'wanting to spend more time with his young family' and he's past it nearly sixty.....

I wonder where they got that story from...

Wanderer said:

Opinion in the cafe where I'm having breakfast in my corner of rural England: strongly anti-Trump; view that he should not be banned from the country but ignored if he turns up; connection drawn between his immigration policy and dispossession of Native Americans. VI is 100% Con, 0% Lab, 0% LD, 0% DK.

rottenborough said:

chestnut said:

Plato_Says said:

I rewound chunks of PMQs just to check it was as painful as it first seemed. Jezza's grumpy teacher mode is failing to control the classroom.

They'd be throwing paper planes if Bercow wasn't watching.

SquareRoot said:

Plato_Says said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/12111086/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-getting-crushed-at-PMQs...-and-theres-no-hope-in-sight.html

Anyway: this is it. This is PMQs for the next four years, or however long Mr Corbyn remains Labour leader. Any question he asks the Prime Minister, on any topic (today: the abolition of student maintenance grants), will be met with an onslaught of jeers about Trident, trade unions, terrorism, Marxism, patriotism, pacifism, the Falklands, Hamas, Stop the War, Nato, Paris, Syria and Hilary Benn. Helplessly scrambling to shield themselves, the Labour party will be unable to advance an inch.

I glanced down to where Mr Corbyn was sitting. All I could make out was a forlorn smudge of beige.

and its not a partisan piece, it just reflects what actually happened. I didn't hear the Beatles jokes as I was working, I only heard the initial exchanges, but its extremely painful to listen to .
How long Labour MP's will tolerate this is the burning question of the day.

As well as his London-centric base, he now has another group that he constantly mentions - circular students.

These are people who must have a grant for their new course because they already have a loan for their last course that apparently led nowhere in terms of a career.

These are the product of the 50% university graduate plan.

Jonathan said:

Plato_Says said:

I rewound chunks of PMQs just to check it was as painful as it first seemed. Jezza's grumpy teacher mode is failing to control the classroom.

They'd be throwing paper planes if Bercow wasn't watching.

That's quite an inditement of Tory MPs. There is something about that chamber that causes grown men and women to strop and shout like three year olds.

Jonathan said:

Plato_Says said:

I rewound chunks of PMQs just to check it was as painful as it first seemed. Jezza's grumpy teacher mode is failing to control the classroom.

They'd be throwing paper planes if Bercow wasn't watching.

That's quite an inditement of Tory MPs. There is something about that chamber that causes grown men and women to strop and shout like three year olds.

rottenborough said:

chestnut said:

Plato_Says said:

I rewound chunks of PMQs just to check it was as painful as it first seemed. Jezza's grumpy teacher mode is failing to control the classroom.

They'd be throwing paper planes if Bercow wasn't watching.

SquareRoot said:

Plato_Says said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/12111086/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-getting-crushed-at-PMQs...-and-theres-no-hope-in-sight.html

Anyway: this is it. This is PMQs for the next four years, or however long Mr Corbyn remains Labour leader. Any question he asks the Prime Minister, on any topic (today: the abolition of student maintenance grants), will be met with an onslaught of jeers about Trident, trade unions, terrorism, Marxism, patriotism, pacifism, the Falklands, Hamas, Stop the War, Nato, Paris, Syria and Hilary Benn. Helplessly scrambling to shield themselves, the Labour party will be unable to advance an inch.

I glanced down to where Mr Corbyn was sitting. All I could make out was a forlorn smudge of beige.

and its not a partisan piece, it just reflects what actually happened. I didn't hear the Beatles jokes as I was working, I only heard the initial exchanges, but its extremely painful to listen to .
How long Labour MP's will tolerate this is the burning question of the day.

As well as his London-centric base, he now has another group that he constantly mentions - circular students.

These are people who must have a grant for their new course because they already have a loan for their last course that apparently led nowhere in terms of a career.

These are the product of the 50% university graduate plan.

Wanderer said:

rottenborough said:

chestnut said:

Plato_Says said:

I rewound chunks of PMQs just to check it was as painful as it first seemed. Jezza's grumpy teacher mode is failing to control the classroom.

They'd be throwing paper planes if Bercow wasn't watching.

SquareRoot said:

Plato_Says said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/12111086/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-getting-crushed-at-PMQs...-and-theres-no-hope-in-sight.html

Anyway: this is it. This is PMQs for the next four years, or however long Mr Corbyn remains Labour leader. Any question he asks the Prime Minister, on any topic (today: the abolition of student maintenance grants), will be met with an onslaught of jeers about Trident, trade unions, terrorism, Marxism, patriotism, pacifism, the Falklands, Hamas, Stop the War, Nato, Paris, Syria and Hilary Benn. Helplessly scrambling to shield themselves, the Labour party will be unable to advance an inch.

I glanced down to where Mr Corbyn was sitting. All I could make out was a forlorn smudge of beige.

and its not a partisan piece, it just reflects what actually happened. I didn't hear the Beatles jokes as I was working, I only heard the initial exchanges, but its extremely painful to listen to .
How long Labour MP's will tolerate this is the burning question of the day.

As well as his London-centric base, he now has another group that he constantly mentions - circular students.

These are people who must have a grant for their new course because they already have a loan for their last course that apparently led nowhere in terms of a career.

These are the product of the 50% university graduate plan.

If they want him to stay until 2020 perhaps the Tories would be wise to tone it down a bit and give Jezza a break?

Mortimer said:

Wanderer said:

Opinion in the cafe where I'm having breakfast in my corner of rural England: strongly anti-Trump; view that he should not be banned from the country but ignored if he turns up; connection drawn between his immigration policy and dispossession of Native Americans. VI is 100% Con, 0% Lab, 0% LD, 0% DK.

I know several places like that. What is interesting is they are often full of just the sort of people who pollsters are struggling to get hold off: builders, small business owners, early 30s Mums whose husbands work in the private sector.

Safe havens from the tentacles of the Grauniad and stern geography teachers.

Perhaps pollsters should start doing face to face interviews?

FrancisUrquhart said:

Moses_ said:

More trouble at mill... Matt Chorley The times

abour infighting claims Comrade Coleman
There is trouble in Team Corbyn.

Last night The Times broke the news that Neale Coleman, one of Jeremy Corbyn's top aides, was quitting over feuding in the Labour leader's office.Coleman is head of rebuttal and a former aide to both Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson.

He resigned after a row with Seumas Milne, the Labour leader's media and political adviser.

One senior Labour source said Milne had repeatedly briefed against Coleman and wanted him gone. The insider said: "Seumas thinks he's head of strategy, head of communications, head of policy and chief of staff all in one."

Kate Hoey, the Labour MP, tweeted that it was a "big loss" if Coleman had left, describing him as "someone who can see the wood from the trees".

When Boris won London Mayoral election, Coleman was the one Red Ken placeman they kept, because they saw him as actually quite good at his job. Tells you all you need to know about why Team Corbyn have fell out with him, he isn't a total and utter numpty...wonder how many times he has been told to just f##k off and join the Tories?

DecrepitJohnL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Borough, disagree. Got to keep working to define Corbyn as the lunatic he is. The Conservatives were very effective with Miliband, although it must be the said the bacon-thwarted monolith-enthusiast didn't exactly help himself.

Like it or not, personal abuse of the Labour leader has been part of the Tory playbook since at least Gordon Brown and that is not going to change when Corbyn is replaced, and if David Miliband had beaten Ed, replace bacon with bananas, and the attacks on their father would have been exactly the same.

Mortimer said:

Wanderer said:

rottenborough said:

chestnut said:

Plato_Says said:

I rewound chunks of PMQs just to check it was as painful as it first seemed. Jezza's grumpy teacher mode is failing to control the classroom.

They'd be throwing paper planes if Bercow wasn't watching.

SquareRoot said:

Plato_Says said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs/12111086/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-getting-crushed-at-PMQs...-and-theres-no-hope-in-sight.html

Anyway: this is it. This is PMQs for the next four years, or however long Mr Corbyn remains Labour leader. Any question he asks the Prime Minister, on any topic (today: the abolition of student maintenance grants), will be met with an onslaught of jeers about Trident, trade unions, terrorism, Marxism, patriotism, pacifism, the Falklands, Hamas, Stop the War, Nato, Paris, Syria and Hilary Benn. Helplessly scrambling to shield themselves, the Labour party will be unable to advance an inch.

I glanced down to where Mr Corbyn was sitting. All I could make out was a forlorn smudge of beige.

and its not a partisan piece, it just reflects what actually happened. I didn't hear the Beatles jokes as I was working, I only heard the initial exchanges, but its extremely painful to listen to .
How long Labour MP's will tolerate this is the burning question of the day.

As well as his London-centric base, he now has another group that he constantly mentions - circular students.

These are people who must have a grant for their new course because they already have a loan for their last course that apparently led nowhere in terms of a career.

These are the product of the 50% university graduate plan.

If they want him to stay until 2020 perhaps the Tories would be wise to tone it down a bit and give Jezza a break?

What they are trying to do is tar the Labour Party with the Corbyn brush. That won't be so easy.

Mortimer said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Head of second Oxford college vetoes renaming computer room

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/12111523/Cecil-Rhodes-row-head-of-second-Oxford-college-vetoes-renaming-computer-room.html

Good. Now tell these ignorant f##kers to get on with doing some learning, for instance to start with why the computer room is called Rhodes i.e The Univ Rhodes Computer Room, off the Main Quad, was set up in 1983 after donations from a group of Univ’s former Rhodes Scholars to mark the 80th anniversary of the founding of the Rhodes Trust.

Good.

I do wonder if the Rhodes scholarship has disciplinary procedures - are the protesters bringing the fund into disrepute with their antics?

Would be quite poetic if the leader had his funding withdrawn after being so vocal.

SquareRoot said:

DecrepitJohnL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Borough, disagree. Got to keep working to define Corbyn as the lunatic he is. The Conservatives were very effective with Miliband, although it must be the said the bacon-thwarted monolith-enthusiast didn't exactly help himself.

Like it or not, personal abuse of the Labour leader has been part of the Tory playbook since at least Gordon Brown and that is not going to change when Corbyn is replaced, and if David Miliband had beaten Ed, replace bacon with bananas, and the attacks on their father would have been exactly the same.

.. err I think that's Labours' fault,.. Brown really was bonkers, Ed was useless and unelectable, then along came Corbyn who is bonkers , useless and unelectable..


Quite a trick that , choosing someone with all three of the worst possible characteristics for leader..

logical_song said:

SquareRoot said:

DecrepitJohnL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Borough, disagree. Got to keep working to define Corbyn as the lunatic he is. The Conservatives were very effective with Miliband, although it must be the said the bacon-thwarted monolith-enthusiast didn't exactly help himself.

Like it or not, personal abuse of the Labour leader has been part of the Tory playbook since at least Gordon Brown and that is not going to change when Corbyn is replaced, and if David Miliband had beaten Ed, replace bacon with bananas, and the attacks on their father would have been exactly the same.

.. err I think that's Labours' fault,.. Brown really was bonkers, Ed was useless and unelectable, then along came Corbyn who is bonkers , useless and unelectable..


Quite a trick that , choosing someone with all three of the worst possible characteristics for leader..

What about 'Demon Eyes' Blair?

TGOHF said:

Richard Nav is constantly asking outers to describe what the alternative is .

Daniel Hannan has done just that .

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/what-brexit-would-look-like-for-britain/

"What Brexit would look like for Britain - Life outside the EU could be very good for us"

DecrepitJohnL said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Borough, disagree. Got to keep working to define Corbyn as the lunatic he is. The Conservatives were very effective with Miliband, although it must be the said the bacon-thwarted monolith-enthusiast didn't exactly help himself.

Like it or not, personal abuse of the Labour leader has been part of the Tory playbook since at least Gordon Brown and that is not going to change when Corbyn is replaced, and if David Miliband had beaten Ed, replace bacon with bananas, and the attacks on their father would have been exactly the same.

CarlottaVance said:

JosiasJessop said:

Colour me surprised:

"Putin 'probably' behind Litvinenko murder"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35370819

"I find that the FSB (Russian Security Service) operation to kill Mr Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin" the report concludes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-35370717

MP_SE said:

TGOHF said:

Richard Nav is constantly asking outers to describe what the alternative is .

Daniel Hannan has done just that .

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/what-brexit-would-look-like-for-britain/

"What Brexit would look like for Britain - Life outside the EU could be very good for us"

Not specific enough unfortunately. Every tiny detail is required.

CarlottaVance said:

Neale Coleman, Jeremy Corbyn’s director of policy and rebuttal, had quit the top team. Why does this matter? Well, Coleman is one of the few highly experienced operators in the inner circle, having run the Olympics for Boris and worked closely for Ken Livingstone for years in City Hall before that. A key ally of Ken and of chief of staff Simon Fletcher, Coleman had clashed with comms chief Seumas Milne over Corbyn’s speech last Saturday.

What hasn’t helped matters overnight is what looks like a Milne briefing to the Guardian pointing out that Coleman is 60 and has young kids and may just want a new role with more family friendly hours. Steve Hawkes of the Sun has some nice intel with his Tweet that Fletcher spent a long time at party HQ yesterday "sorting Neale Coleman pay off on his own".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/21/the-waugh-zone-january-21_n_9037268.html

JosiasJessop said:

CarlottaVance said:

JosiasJessop said:

Colour me surprised:

"Putin 'probably' behind Litvinenko murder"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35370819

"I find that the FSB (Russian Security Service) operation to kill Mr Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin" the report concludes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-35370717

This is a difficult one for the government.

It should not be a difficult one for the Labour front bench, but given their current behaviour ...

LondonBob said:

CarlottaVance said:

JosiasJessop said:

Colour me surprised:

"Putin 'probably' behind Litvinenko murder"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35370819

"I find that the FSB (Russian Security Service) operation to kill Mr Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin" the report concludes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-35370717

Some people will believe anything, barely credible. Embarrassing actions from the government again, we simply can't allow our foreign policy with major or not nations to be dictated by fugitive criminals like Boris Berezovsky, William Browder and Mikhail Khodorkovsky spreading their largesse through the political media class.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2388237/Its-murder-mystery-causing-political-shockwaves-London-Moscow-But-radioactive-Russian-spy-killed-bungling-MI6-agents.html

“We have to reappropriate the concept of laïcité [secularism] so we can explain to our young pupils that whatever their faith, they belong to this idea and they’re not excluded. Secularism is not something against them; it protects them,” she said

France is a secular republic built on a clear separation of church and state, intended to foster equality for all private beliefs. The state remains neutral in terms of religion but must safeguard everyone’s freedom to practise their own faith. In 2004, France banned girls from wearing Islamic headscarves in state schools – along with banning all other religious symbols such as crosses or turbans – arguing schools must be free of all religion.