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Things I knew but didn't appreciate at the time: Ed Miliband was TALL: pic.twitter.com/z2Bh9oFD1u
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And there is a loud audio advert playing on the homepage!
Corbyn has to be greatest deep cover agent since Aldrich Ames
Reduced the Lib Dems from 62 MPs to 8 MPs (yes eight)
Just observing the formalities is impressive?
LOL not exactly setting the bar high
That east Europeans should want to remember the deportations and killings of "class enemies" by the Soviet Union during and after the war is entirely understandable. So is their pressure on Russia to account, say, for the killing of Polish officers at Katyn – even if Soviet and Russian acknowledgment of Stalin's crimes already goes far beyond, for example, any such apologies by Britain or France for the crimes of colonialism.
But the pretence that Soviet repression reached anything like the scale or depths of Nazi savagery – or that the postwar "enslavement" of eastern Europe can be equated with wartime Nazi genocide – is a mendacity that tips towards Holocaust denial. It is certainly not a mistake that could have been made by the Auschwitz survivors liberated by the Red Army in 1945.
The real meaning of the attempt to equate Nazi genocide with Soviet repression is clearest in the Baltic republics, where collaboration with SS death squads and direct participation in the mass murder of Jews was at its most extreme, and politicians are at pains to turn perpetrators into victims.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/09/second-world-war-soviet-pact
Nazi genocide.
Soviet repression.
That's OK then. Stalin was cuddly Uncle Joe after all, apart from a smidgen of over-enthusiasm by some officials.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/sep/12/highereducation.historyandhistoryofart
Corbyn's trying out New Politics for sure: identify your biggest negative, and make an appointment which confirms and magnifies it.
FPT What odds are you offering? That there will be a poll with Labour in the teens between now and the GE by a BPC-registered pollster.
Anyone know!
It's very poorly tailored to him. He should have gone for a fitting.
I thought he might have a "prior engagement".
Fun session tomorrow afternoon :
"A senior detective is expected to reveal to MPs his fury at being “undermined” by Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, over a VIP sex abuse investigation"
http://order-order.com/2015/10/20/corbyn-hires-seumas-milne-as-comms-chief/
“Rigby was a British soldier who had taken part in multiple combat operations in Afghanistan. So the attack wasn’t terrorism in the normal sense”.
He can fuck right off.
Need a tame interpreter, though!
But he couldn't avoided it.
Only to find out he was actually condeming the killers when shown in context
Nothing could signify a hard left takeover over the party's core operations than the appointment of Milne. This is surely a bigger single blow (even if, in the long run, its ramifications are less important) than the pooling of shadow ministers' advisers into a "spad bank" under centralised control. There must be some absolutely furious MPs. Including big beasts and the shad cab.
Nothing could signify a hard left takeover over the party's core operations than the appointment of Milne. This is surely a bigger single blow (even if, in the long run, its ramifications are less important) than the pooling of shadow ministers' advisers into a "spad bank" under centralised control. There must be some absolutely furious MPs. Including big beasts and the shad cab.
"huge resources" - like a slightly used pink van, and a somewhat tarnished block of stone?
Nothing could signify a hard left takeover over the party's core operations than the appointment of Milne. This is surely a bigger single blow (even if, in the long run, its ramifications are less important) than the pooling of shadow ministers' advisers into a "spad bank" under centralised control. There must be some absolutely furious MPs. Including big beasts and the shad cab.
The idea that Labour have any "big beasts" in or out of the shadow cabinet is unfortunately flawed. If they did the leadership would not be the unfunny comedy routine it is at the moment.
Owen Jones and Zoe Williams will be sharing the economic brief at this rate....on a similar note has that council of economic owls Corbyn appointed even met yet?
Who's got women's issues? Mrs Brown
Nothing could signify a hard left takeover over the party's core operations than the appointment of Milne.What about the appointment of McDonnell?
I think Corbyn is trying to make appointments to make him look like a moderate in contrast.
I just don't get it - particularly after the crap that was the last three. Merchandise is flying off the shelves.
Tony McNulty @Tony_McNulty 3h3 hours ago
@Markfergusonuk What an absolutely disastrous appointment - with bells, whistles and god knows what else on... Utterly dreadful.
Mark Ferguson
@Markfergusonuk
Seamus Milne? Seamus? Milne? Seamus Milne?
Right. Well. That’s happened then
Luke Akehurst
@lukeakehurst
Not sure why left is bothering to keep SWP out of Momentum if appointing Stalin-apologist to key role. At least SWP not Stalinist.
Is that what we are witnessing here? Is the Labour Party trying to deliberately make lots of bad decisions, and then when it gets to rock bottom, confound us all by getting it right??
nah..
I think Corbyn is trying to make appointments to make him look like a moderate in contrast.
The Cabinet team, yes, McDonnell was a real statement of intent about policy direction etc.
MPs always knew the policy direction wasn't going to go their way, but that's a storm they can weather out (so long as an election doesn't cost them their seat in the meantime).
I'm talking about the party's apparatus and organisation. "Moderate"/"Red Tory" MPs can't afford to let that get too far away from them. Otherwise they risk being a couple of hundred individuals (I'm being generous) with minimal support base in the membership and at odds with the party machine itself. On current trends, new blood into the parliamentary party is going to be very red indeed. The Labour "Right" (or frankly, traditional Centre) is being pushed into a corner. There's a time you have to fight, or die. There must be people tonight who feel that time has just edged closer.
As I point out at the many fun events I attend.
As Bertrand Russell put it:
The talking heads are saying it is looking increasingly like he will run. They reason he will be the backup in case Hillary gets to visit Club Fed.
If he gets in the race, his only other chance is to go negative and hard on Hillary from Day One.
As of Monday the Draft Biden movement agreed to go dark to let Biden speak for himself.
At least it means they'll surely send a strong team out to Bayern next time....
just before they then play Spurs at the weekend after that...
#spursfanalwayslookingforstraws2clutch
I think Corbyn is trying to make appointments to make him look like a moderate in contrast.
I think he's having to fish in a rapidly evaporating pool - the result of all the heat he's generating. It's one thing to be able to justify being supportive when asked, it's an entirely different thing to wear the regalia. Where is Uncle Len while all this is going on? What is he thinking?
(Is the Queen serving Peking Duck?)
That said, sometimes Westminster village stories matter because of the impact on the villagers. There are going to be huge numbers of hacked off Labour MPs tonight. They're going to be even more mutinous as a consequence.
http://failmuch.com/harper-suggests-republic-of-western-canada-separates-from-canada/
MPs always knew the policy direction wasn't going to go their way, but that's a storm they can weather out (so long as an election doesn't cost them their seat in the meantime).
I'm talking about the party's apparatus and organisation. "Moderate"/"Red Tory" MPs can't afford to let that get too far away from them. Otherwise they risk being a couple of hundred individuals (I'm being generous) with minimal support base in the membership and at odds with the party machine itself. On current trends, new blood into the parliamentary party is going to be very red indeed. The Labour "Right" (or frankly, traditional Centre) is being pushed into a corner. There's a time you have to fight, or die. There must be people tonight who feel that time has just edged closer.
Chamberlains or Churchills?
Although, in this case...
http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/simon-schamas-use-of-the-word-suburban-on-question-time-was-very-revealing/
whose opinion do I rely on?
hmm... I need SO to tell me on all things left {& spurs}
However, I’m not sure the Corbynista will see it that way.
http://labourlist.org/2015/10/seumas-milne-lands-top-corbyn-job/
No I'm not confident of a Clinton implosion. I doubt it'll happen. The threat to her campaign isn't implosion, it's indictment. Big difference.
Belief in a God of any kind is an act of faith.
Faith is, by definition, that which cannot be proven by science.
Hence science can only disprove the existence of God by disproving the *possibility* of the existence of God. They can't do it by arguing that there is no evidence - because it then just reverts back into being a matter of faith.
Though I suppose if Cameron can get by largely unscathed from Coulson I might be overestimating the impact. Maybe people expect this role to be filled by bastards.
The Netherlands currently faces a problem in providing asylum for girls who married in Syria but are below the Dutch age of consent, which some argue condones pedophilia. As many as 20 girls between the ages of 13 and 15 have been given legal permission to join their older partners in Dutch asylum centres, regional news channel RTV-Noord reports."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-nine-month-pregnant-14-year-old-goes-missing-amid-anger-the-netherlands-is-allowing-a6701136.html
Gawd knows why JC hasn't tried to sign me up too!!!