Just back from the Andy Burnham hustings down here in West Wales. Interesting, fluent speaker but I am still not convinced. Labour does need a fresh face, fresh ideas which I not sure that Andy brings to the table. I think he would make a good no 2. ps is Andrea about. I have a titbit that might be of interest.
Burnham is probably the most electable choice Labour have who can keep the party united
United in defeat? United in opposition? United against aspiration?
The party is the most important thing, after all.
Goes back to the whole original theme of this thread, Clarke may have attracted floating voters but would have divided the Tories and risked sending voters to UKIP, Kendall has the same issues with losing voters to the Greens and turning off Scotland
Burnham and Kendall both had positive net favourability ratings in the last public opinion poll overall, Cooper and Corbyn had negative ratings but the unity issue gives Burnham the edge
I know AB is your man, but he ain't gonna win back Scotland, and the radicals of this world would best be dropped. Far more centrist floaters than determined lefties will be voting in marginals...
Indeed, but Burnham generally polls better in Scotland than Kendall in the yougov Labour leadership polls and even a few seats in Scotland recaptured from the SNP would help Labour win a majority.
Have you heard of Jim Messina and voter targeting? Like EdM, AB will be popular with the voters in Labour constituencies, or the constituencies that Labour cannot win.
Do your posts constitute part of an x million number of conversations AB's troops are having with the country?
This was a poll of the public as a whole, not just Labour voters ie it included voters in marginals and Tory seats as much as those in safe Labour areas. The fact Corbyn came last confirms that
WG Indeed, it could have been a home for the Classics and philisophy and scientific advancement rather than Business Studies and Psychology! Apparently 'In order to gain university status it had to convince the Privy Council that a Royal Decree banning the establishment of a university in Northampton, signed by King Henry III in 1265 following the Battle of Lewes, should be repealed.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Northampton
Just back from the Andy Burnham hustings down here in West Wales. Interesting, fluent speaker but I am still not convinced. Labour does need a fresh face, fresh ideas which I not sure that Andy brings to the table. I think he would make a good no 2. ps is Andrea about. I have a titbit that might be of interest.
Burnham is probably the most electable choice Labour have who can keep the party united
United in defeat? United in opposition? United against aspiration?
The party is the most important thing, after all.
Goes back to the whole original theme of this thread, Clarke may have attracted floating voters but would have divided the Tories and risked sending voters to UKIP, Kendall has the same issues with losing voters to the Greens and turning off Scotland
Burnham and Kendall both had positive net favourability ratings in the last public opinion poll overall, Cooper and Corbyn had negative ratings but the unity issue gives Burnham the edge
I know AB is your man, but he ain't gonna win back Scotland, and the radicals of this world would best be dropped. Far more centrist floaters than determined lefties will be voting in marginals...
Indeed, but Burnham generally polls better in Scotland than Kendall in the yougov Labour leadership polls and even a few seats in Scotland recaptured from the SNP would help Labour win a majority.
Have you heard of Jim Messina and voter targeting? Like EdM, AB will be popular with the voters in Labour constituencies, or the constituencies that Labour cannot win.
Do your posts constitute part of an x million number of conversations AB's troops are having with the country?
This was a poll of the public as a whole, not just Labour voters ie it included voters in marginals and Tory seats as much as those in safe Labour areas. The fact Corbyn came last confirms that
Ok: you can take comfort in your snapshot polls, I'll take comfort in the poor judgement of Labour party members and he good judgement of the public at large in the only poll that matters. The 2020 general election.
This was a poll of the public as a whole, not just Labour voters ie it included voters in marginals and Tory seats as much as those in safe Labour areas. The fact Corbyn came last confirms that
Ok: you can take comfort in your snapshot polls, I'll take comfort in the poor judgement of Labour party members and he good judgement of the public at large in the only poll that matters. The 2020 general election.
Indeed, but it would be sensible for Labour to at least pick a reasonably credible leader to begin with, as they failed to do in 2010 despite polling evidence showing David much preferred by the public to Ed
A similar attempt was made in the 1330s by disaffected Oxford scholars who tried to found a new college at Stamford (and apparently a second at Newark) but it was blocked by Edward III after a petition from Oxford and Cambridge
Did they ever get a charter or licence? That's interesting. Did you have a reference or link for it?
I first heard the story when investigating the background to some mediaval buildings I was excavating at Hawton near Newark. The local vicar had done a load of research and come up with the story. I had not thought much of it until I came across some more official references at Oxford regarding the Stamford college. I am still unsure about the Newark angle as information on that is more patchy and not helped by the fact that a number of families involved ended up on the wrong side of the Lambert Simnel rebellion in 1487.
The Wiki page of Oxford Uni mentions the Stamford college attempt and I will see if I can dig out more details.
I think the Charter was refused by Edward III after representations from Oxford and Cambridge.
That's really interesting. Also thanks to the White Rabbit, and LiaMT.
The present Durham University's Grey College was at one point planned to be called Cromwell College in recognition of this attempt, but sadly the university got cold feet about it.
I went off Ken Clarke when, as Home Secretary, he refused to refer to the Court of Appeal the case of the four men wrongly convicted of killing Carl Bridgwater, even though by then there was already substantial evidence of their innocence. For that reason, I had a grudge against him for many years, which has only recently faded in its intensity in my mind.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Northampton_(13th_century)
Apparently 'In order to gain university status it had to convince the Privy Council that a Royal Decree banning the establishment of a university in Northampton, signed by King Henry III in 1265 following the Battle of Lewes, should be repealed.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Northampton
This was a poll of the public as a whole, not just Labour voters ie it included voters in marginals and Tory seats as much as those in safe Labour areas. The fact Corbyn came last confirms that
Ok: you can take comfort in your snapshot polls, I'll take comfort in the poor judgement of Labour party members and he good judgement of the public at large in the only poll that matters. The 2020 general election.
Indeed, but it would be sensible for Labour to at least pick a reasonably credible leader to begin with, as they failed to do in 2010 despite polling evidence showing David much preferred by the public to Ed
The present Durham University's Grey College was at one point planned to be called Cromwell College in recognition of this attempt, but sadly the university got cold feet about it.