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It will also drive perverse behaviour. One way to make less profit is to increase your payroll - so fat bonuses for the managers.glw said:
It is such a bad idea. Ed is once again focusing on the wrong things.david_herdson said:
Why not just legislate that everyone will make a profit of 5% - no more, no less - on everything and have done with it? Though that might make Bargain Hunt a bit boring.Scott_P said:@JohnRentoul: Glory be. Even the Guardian thinks EdM's cap on profits of NHS contractors is rubbish http://t.co/X350QfonC5
Who cares how much profit a company makes? It is the cost and quality of the service that matters to us as the customer. If a company can do a batter job, for less, and make a healthy profit on top we ought to celebrate that. What we will end up with is companies doing a lousy job but making a "fair" profit, as the smarter companies look elsewhere to make a return on their investment.
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That's a radical interpretation of the text.Scott_P said:@JohnRentoul: Glory be. Even the Guardian thinks EdM's cap on profits of NHS contractors is rubbish http://t.co/X350QfonC5
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A black swan is something that's never been seen or conceived of before, not just an unexpected event.DecrepitJohnL said:Expenses and benefit cut leaks -- black swans are like buses.
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Perhaps a Barnett formula for Scotch MP rents ? And an underpants levy to return value to the taxpayer.0
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Private sector % rage > profits cap > profits freeze > bonus cap> bonus levy > salary levy > new wage regulator > closed hospital > closed regulator > tax rises > new hospital > new hospital czar > repeat until country bust...JohnLilburne said:
It will also drive perverse behaviour. One way to make less profit is to increase your payroll - so fat bonuses for the managers.glw said:
It is such a bad idea. Ed is once again focusing on the wrong things.david_herdson said:
Why not just legislate that everyone will make a profit of 5% - no more, no less - on everything and have done with it? Though that might make Bargain Hunt a bit boring.Scott_P said:@JohnRentoul: Glory be. Even the Guardian thinks EdM's cap on profits of NHS contractors is rubbish http://t.co/X350QfonC5
Who cares how much profit a company makes? It is the cost and quality of the service that matters to us as the customer. If a company can do a batter job, for less, and make a healthy profit on top we ought to celebrate that. What we will end up with is companies doing a lousy job but making a "fair" profit, as the smarter companies look elsewhere to make a return on their investment.0 -
Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!
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If they have received government payments towards that property currently or in the past then it is taking the p as far as I am concerned.notme said:
Why? yes, if the house was done up on expenses, otherwise, no ones business.Paul_Mid_Beds said:Cant see what the benefit fuss is all about. Known they will cut £12bn not unusual to ask civil servants for advice on best way.
All jt really shows is that it will have to be exfended to pensioner benefits to make the numbers up. Extending the spare room subsidy rules to over 65s would be a good start and I don't think has been ruled out.
Re expenses. Anyone got a list of the 46.Any of them in seats where UKIP have a shout?
Charging rental/hotel expenses when u own a place and rent it out is taking the p in my book
No different in my book to someone renting out their house then claiming housing benefit on the replacement property they rented.
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I haven't watched Sherlock (should I?) but I am a big fan of Elementary. And I really can't see Mycroft/Mandelson in that one.Plato said:Are you talking about Sherlock or Elementary?
NickPalmer said:A friend tells me that the actor playing Mycroft in the current modern-day Sherlock said it's also based on Mandelson. A role model for our times, evidently. :-)
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Black Swans are a commonplace in Australia. Not as pretty as our Mute swan though.Freggles said:
A black swan is something that's never been seen or conceived of before, not just an unexpected event.DecrepitJohnL said:Expenses and benefit cut leaks -- black swans are like buses.
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"Who cares how much profit a company makes? It is the cost and quality of the service that matters to us as the customer."
More a matter of principle. If for example a charity said they were going to restrict their overheads to 5% I don't think anyone would object. Most people see the NHS in this light so I doubt many would see much wrong with Ed's principled idea however tricky to police.0 -
That's kind of the problem: it's a superficially popular policy which will hurt the quality of service and the care people receive in the long run. It's quintessential Miliband.Roger said:JL
"Who cares how much profit a company makes? It is the cost and quality of the service that matters to us as the customer."
More a matter of principle. If for example a charity said they were going to restrict their overheads to 5% I don't think anyone would object. Most people see the NHS in this light so I doubt many would see much wrong with Ed's principled idea however tricky to police.0 -
Popularity doesn't mean it is right, or practical, or will have a good effect.Roger said:JL
"Who cares how much profit a company makes? It is the cost and quality of the service that matters to us as the customer."
More a matter of principle. If for example a charity said they were going to restrict their overheads to 5% I don't think anyone would object. Most people see the NHS in this light so I doubt many would see much wrong with Ed's principled idea however tricky to police.
What Labour are proposing is just as stupid a policy as an arbitrary benefits cap, which is the sort of nonsense Tories like. Plucking some percentage or total out of thin air and calling it a fair limit is nonsensical. Measuring the cost and ignoring the value is no way to balance the books. We don't want to drive good companies out of providing service because they can do better elsewhere, any more than we should seek to penalise people who plainly do deserve more help.
This general election is once again going to come down to choosing the least incompetent out of a very dismal choice of parties.0 -
Is he going to refuse to purchase equipment, medicines and treatments for patients if businesses refuse to supply at his price?
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This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.0
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It could have the effect of creating a fall in supply alongside a drop in access to better quality (especially new) treatments on the NHS, whilst pushing those who can pay for better treatment to effectively opt out of the NHS to buy it at the price Ed refuses to meet.0
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3 in a bed MacNeill xD The lucky gitTheuniondivvie said:
Angus MacNeill is, I think, also on the list.DecrepitJohnL said:
Jim Murphy and SLAB generally might be in trouble provided there are no SNP names on the list.FrancisUrquhart said:Re the CH4 story, it is well known this is going on. Surprised it as few as 46 to be honest.
Next for a good inspection is the money merry go around of constituency offices...0 -
Not really. Oh OK you should as a part of shared culture. The conceit of the programme is brilliant and the early stories are clever - the Moriarty introduction for me is the start of a decline. If I were to miss an episode I would not be too bothered though. Cumberbatch is a classic Holmes though and Martin Freeman an equal as Watson if you overlook his typical acting method. A modern drama has to be 'dark'.GeoffM said:
I haven't watched Sherlock (should I?) but I am a big fan of Elementary. And I really can't see Mycroft/Mandelson in that one.Plato said:Are you talking about Sherlock or Elementary?
NickPalmer said:A friend tells me that the actor playing Mycroft in the current modern-day Sherlock said it's also based on Mandelson. A role model for our times, evidently. :-)
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5% profit margin on a contract....I wonder what companies could survive on that generally? I known mine couldn't.0
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More than one way to skin 5% you know.FrancisUrquhart said:5% profit margin on a contract....I wonder what companies could survive on that generally? I known mine couldn't.
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Everything in the NHS comes from the private sector. The state does not make bedpans. The state does no build hospitals.glw said:
Do you think that this policy and its implications have really been thought through?chestnut said:Is he going to refuse to purchase equipment, medicines and treatments for patients if businesses refuse to supply at his price?
The whole point of the current efficiency drives (aimed as Labour said in their manifesto to save £20 billion) is to use purchasing power to cut costs for contracts to the private sector - but that is economies of scale allied with open competition.
Miliband wants to pay lip service to contracting out medical services to the private sector but in effect make it unprofitable. Under Miliband we will see the increasing 'socialistisation' of the NHS and indeed the entire country. There can be little doubt about that. The SNP will support him all the way.0 -
On the whole, Sherlock has been brilliant. Cumberbatch is a great modern Holmes.Flightpath said:
Not really. Oh OK you should as a part of shared culture. The conceit of the programme is brilliant and the early stories are clever - the Moriarty introduction for me is the start of a decline. If I were to miss an episode I would not be too bothered though. Cumberbatch is a classic Holmes though and Martin Freeman an equal as Watson if you overlook his typical acting method. A modern drama has to be 'dark'.GeoffM said:
I haven't watched Sherlock (should I?) but I am a big fan of Elementary. And I really can't see Mycroft/Mandelson in that one.Plato said:Are you talking about Sherlock or Elementary?
NickPalmer said:A friend tells me that the actor playing Mycroft in the current modern-day Sherlock said it's also based on Mandelson. A role model for our times, evidently. :-)
Some of the plots have been a little weak, but mostly forgivable. Updating the stories to the 21st century has mostly been a success.
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Unlikely. This is (aiui) aimed at the contracts for routine treatments and diagnostic procedures where the NHS was left with the more complex treatments anyway.chestnut said:It could have the effect of creating a fall in supply alongside a drop in access to better quality (especially new) treatments on the NHS, whilst pushing those who can pay for better treatment to effectively opt out of the NHS to buy it at the price Ed refuses to meet.
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It's always far harder taking money away from some people than not giving other people extra money.
Look at the fuss re the "bedroom tax" - yet this year many benefits are increasing in nominal terms.
Rather than, eg, taking money off carers it would be far more palatable to just freeze all benefits for say five years. Cameron has talked about freezing some, but certainly not all, benefits for two years. I would freeze the lot for five years.
If he has to go for some specifics, have another go at cutting tax credits. We are still paying tax credits (on top of child benefit) to people with gross incomes a bit over £25k. Phase tax credits out at a somewhat lower level.0 -
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
Can i have four candles please?FrancisUrquhart said:
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
At least 15% of the NHS budget goes on drugs provided by the private sector. Why is it acceptable to buy in life-saving medicines but not services like blood tests? It does not make sense, unless the motive is to preserve NHS jobs not improve services.0
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I would mostly agree with that, plus Cumberbatch's mum is Wanda Ventham!!DaemonBarber said:
On the whole, Sherlock has been brilliant. Cumberbatch is a great modern Holmes.Flightpath said:
Not really. Oh OK you should as a part of shared culture. The conceit of the programme is brilliant and the early stories are clever - the Moriarty introduction for me is the start of a decline. If I were to miss an episode I would not be too bothered though. Cumberbatch is a classic Holmes though and Martin Freeman an equal as Watson if you overlook his typical acting method. A modern drama has to be 'dark'.GeoffM said:
I haven't watched Sherlock (should I?) but I am a big fan of Elementary. And I really can't see Mycroft/Mandelson in that one.Plato said:Are you talking about Sherlock or Elementary?
NickPalmer said:A friend tells me that the actor playing Mycroft in the current modern-day Sherlock said it's also based on Mandelson. A role model for our times, evidently. :-)
Some of the plots have been a little weak, but mostly forgivable. Updating the stories to the 21st century has mostly been a success.
However I feel that the mood of the stories spoils the excellent and clever updating. Some plots possibly suffer for attempting (worthily, humorously) to mimic or base themselves on the originals.0 -
Ed cares not for the patients - only the workers and their union subs.0
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Does that make Clegg, Grgrgrgrgrgranville?0
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@hendopolis: TELEGRAPH: Matt on fine form #tomorrowspaperstoday http://t.co/swhacVOl1h0
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And Foxy Knoxy cleared - result,0
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Quite, but it was always going to be this way though. If they had strayed too far from the source there would have been as many complaints.Flightpath said:
I would mostly agree with that, plus Cumberbatch's mum is Wanda Ventham!!DaemonBarber said:
On the whole, Sherlock has been brilliant. Cumberbatch is a great modern Holmes.Flightpath said:
Not really. Oh OK you should as a part of shared culture. The conceit of the programme is brilliant and the early stories are clever - the Moriarty introduction for me is the start of a decline. If I were to miss an episode I would not be too bothered though. Cumberbatch is a classic Holmes though and Martin Freeman an equal as Watson if you overlook his typical acting method. A modern drama has to be 'dark'.GeoffM said:
I haven't watched Sherlock (should I?) but I am a big fan of Elementary. And I really can't see Mycroft/Mandelson in that one.Plato said:Are you talking about Sherlock or Elementary?
NickPalmer said:A friend tells me that the actor playing Mycroft in the current modern-day Sherlock said it's also based on Mandelson. A role model for our times, evidently. :-)
Some of the plots have been a little weak, but mostly forgivable. Updating the stories to the 21st century has mostly been a success.
However I feel that the mood of the stories spoils the excellent and clever updating. Some plots possibly suffer for attempting (worthily, humorously) to mimic or base themselves on the originals.
Personally, the best modern Holmes is Robert Downey Jr. ;-)0 -
And if you limit the return that pioneering drug companies can make then there is no incentive for them to do the research and the endless billions of that cost will fall on the nation.Fernando said:At least 15% of the NHS budget goes on drugs provided by the private sector. Why is it acceptable to buy in life-saving medicines but not services like blood tests? It does not make sense, unless the motive is to preserve NHS jobs not improve services.
After a period then as far as I know most drugs are produced under or open competitive rules and become cheaper. France as an example is forcing its NHS to use more generic and cheaper drugs.
The floor for services like blood tests is the coast for the NHS to do it itself. It makes sense to cope with fluctuations in demand by contracting that demand out.0 -
I take that back, Jack!! More power to your ARSE!JackW said:
Certainly not.Sunil_Prasannan said:
ELBOW denier!JackW said:
A sample of two seems excessive to me. After all there is only one ARSE.NickPalmer said:
No, that's not a factor that plays a part in his model - and wouldn't do for a statistician like Fisher, since the sample is so small (2!).JackW said:
Possibly the now near ARSE prediction of Fisher is fuelled less by swingback but something more akin to the historical fact that since 1945 the Labour party has never increased its vote share in the first election after losing office.
More power to your ELBOW.
I have the greatest admiration for your pretty graphs that in their full and colourful grandeur brings much relief to PB lefties who are in much need of solace as Miliband's day of doom looms.
Next ELBOW due on Sunday! So far this week Lab and Con lead each other by... 0.0%!!!0 -
I adore that sketch! For me it is possibly the best bit of sketch writing and acting ever!notme said:
Can i have four candles please?FrancisUrquhart said:
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
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Of course that applies to essentially everything the NHS does. There are going to be all sorts of counter examples where companies supplying the NHS make a lot more than 5% profit but won't be penalised.Fernando said:At least 15% of the NHS budget goes on drugs provided by the private sector. Why is it acceptable to buy in life-saving medicines but not services like blood tests? It does not make sense, unless the motive is to preserve NHS jobs not improve services.
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Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
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Cue pictures of Miliband as a fah...fafafaahfah...failure.FrancisUrquhart said:
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
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Angus Macneil is on the list but his is a ludicrous case where he could no longer claim £250 a month mortgage payments but instead £1000+ pounds a month hotel bills.DecrepitJohnL said:
Jim Murphy and SLAB generally might be in trouble provided there are no SNP names on the list.FrancisUrquhart said:Re the CH4 story, it is well known this is going on. Surprised it as few as 46 to be honest.
Next for a good inspection is the money merry go around of constituency offices...
There was a bunch of news stories about him when the expense system was changed as he was preciously one of the lowest claiments under the old system.0 -
Not all bits of it. If your point is the bits you need open all hours already are, then I agreeDaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
Won't that substantially increase resources (taxpayer's money/ government borrowing) that need to be spent on it?Freggles said:
Not all bits of it. If your point is the bits you need open all hours already are, then I agreeDaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
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But - most importantly - who will play the part of the voluptuous Nurse Gladys Emmanuel? Can't see Hattie or Yvette in the role (aaaaaaarg, my mind is buuuuuurning)Flightpath said:
Cue pictures of Miliband as a fah...fafafaahfah...failure.FrancisUrquhart said:
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
Yes.weejonnie said:
Won't that substantially increase resources (taxpayer's money/ government borrowing) that need to be spent on it?Freggles said:
Not all bits of it. If your point is the bits you need open all hours already are, then I agreeDaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
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Eric Pickles?Anorak said:
But - most importantly - who will play the part of the voluptuous Nurse Gladys Emmanuel? Can't see Hattie or Yvette in the role (aaaaaaarg, my mind is buuuuuurning)Flightpath said:
Cue pictures of Miliband as a fah...fafafaahfah...failure.FrancisUrquhart said:
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
Try getting a sick kid to a GP at the weekend. And don't suggest A&E, a grim place full of shrieking, bleeding, drunk people with 3 hour waits is not where I want to be with a 5-year-old child with suspected flu.DaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
My GP is only available when I am at work. It would be better if it closed one or two days in the week and opened at the weekend. When I lived in London 20 years ago my GP had a 7.30 "commuters' surgery" twice a week and you could certainly get appointments up to 6pm , sometimes later. Surely any customerfacing organisation should seek to do the same.DaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
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Did he get free tartan trews like the great leader ?Alistair said:
Angus Macneil is on the list but his is a ludicrous case where he could no longer claim £250 a month mortgage payments but instead £1000+ pounds a month hotel bills.DecrepitJohnL said:
Jim Murphy and SLAB generally might be in trouble provided there are no SNP names on the list.FrancisUrquhart said:Re the CH4 story, it is well known this is going on. Surprised it as few as 46 to be honest.
Next for a good inspection is the money merry go around of constituency offices...
There was a bunch of news stories about him when the expense system was changed as he was preciously one of the lowest claiments under the old system.0 -
We can all chip in to make suggestions... but these leaked suggestions were not commissioned by politicians and not seen by Cameron or Osborne.MikeL said:It's always far harder taking money away from some people than not giving other people extra money.
Look at the fuss re the "bedroom tax" - yet this year many benefits are increasing in nominal terms.
Rather than, eg, taking money off carers it would be far more palatable to just freeze all benefits for say five years. Cameron has talked about freezing some, but certainly not all, benefits for two years. I would freeze the lot for five years.
If he has to go for some specifics, have another go at cutting tax credits. We are still paying tax credits (on top of child benefit) to people with gross incomes a bit over £25k. Phase tax credits out at a somewhat lower level.
When it comes to making cuts the civil service always produce the most unpalatable of lists and then of course if possible leak them. They are the last ones who want to see cuts.
Lets not forget that between 2000 and 2010 Brown increased spending by 50% in real terms. Its the biggest increase in peacetime spending ever. There was no way that was affordable. Brown ran the economy like a runaway train and in the end it hit the buffers.0 -
Said it before, GP all should have online booking as well. Failure by this government to really push GP's to have this. Even my local council owned gym has it FFS.JohnLilburne said:
My GP is only available when I am at work. It would be better if it closed one or two days in the week and opened at the weekend. When I lived in London 20 years ago my GP had a 7.30 "commuters' surgery" twice a week and you could certainly get appointments up to 6pm , sometimes later. Surely any customerfacing organisation should seek to do the same.DaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
Now I'm too scared to even turn the light off. Still, mildly better than John Prescott (actually, disturbingly, you can see the resemblance here: http://i1.cdnds.net/13/49/618x470/uktv-still-open-all-hours-still-9.jpg)FrancisUrquhart said:
Eric Pickles?Anorak said:
But - most importantly - who will play the part of the voluptuous Nurse Gladys Emmanuel? Can't see Hattie or Yvette in the role (aaaaaaarg, my mind is buuuuuurning)Flightpath said:
Cue pictures of Miliband as a fah...fafafaahfah...failure.FrancisUrquhart said:
Cue pictures of Cameron as AAAAAAAAAAAAAArkwright....TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw0 -
I think they should have to compete with each other, the crap ones would go bust.FrancisUrquhart said:
Said it before, GP all should have online booking as well. Failure by this government to really push GP's to have this. Even my local council owned gym has it FFS.JohnLilburne said:
My GP is only available when I am at work. It would be better if it closed one or two days in the week and opened at the weekend. When I lived in London 20 years ago my GP had a 7.30 "commuters' surgery" twice a week and you could certainly get appointments up to 6pm , sometimes later. Surely any customerfacing organisation should seek to do the same.DaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
But online booking would be great, you could select a time that suited you and would be able to play off convenience and choosing which doctor to see against urgency.
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GPs do compete with each other, except perhaps in the smallest hamlets. GPs are the bit of the NHS which is most in the private sector already. It turns out "the market" is not some sort of magic talisman that makes everything better.JohnLilburne said:
I think they should have to compete with each other, the crap ones would go bust.FrancisUrquhart said:
Said it before, GP all should have online booking as well. Failure by this government to really push GP's to have this. Even my local council owned gym has it FFS.JohnLilburne said:
My GP is only available when I am at work. It would be better if it closed one or two days in the week and opened at the weekend. When I lived in London 20 years ago my GP had a 7.30 "commuters' surgery" twice a week and you could certainly get appointments up to 6pm , sometimes later. Surely any customerfacing organisation should seek to do the same.DaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
But online booking would be great, you could select a time that suited you and would be able to play off convenience and choosing which doctor to see against urgency.0 -
Looking at the three victories in the local by-election - each of them offers tremendous encouragement for the SNP. Genrothes and Armadale are in seats which they would hope to take on a good day and on this evidence are heading to do just that and to do it comprehensively.
Buckie is in an NO voting area but of traditional SNP strength. This result demonstrates that the SNP are dusting down the opposition in the North East of Scotland.
These results are real votes in real ballot boxes. They count in my book for a great deal and confirm the ample evidence from elsewhere that the big shift is on in Scotland.0 -
Here in edinburgh, when our daughter had a terrifyingly high fever at 3 am, we went directly to the sick kids hospital and were triaged and seen too in quick time.Anorak said:
Try getting a sick kid to a GP at the weekend. And don't suggest A&E, a grim place full of shrieking, bleeding, drunk people with 3 hour waits is not where I want to be with a 5-year-old child with suspected flu.DaemonBarber said:
It is already open all hours.Freggles said:
Where will the extra money come from?TGOHF said:
Cams ideas much better for patientsPulpstar said:This 5% profit idea is completely daft. Contract values will just be inflated up, up and away.
@Telegraph: Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph front page: "Cameron: I'll make NHS open all hours" http://t.co/MxBVxZ6FOw
When I was a student I passed out due to excess alcohol at 3am and was taken to A&E. I was seen eventually.
In both cases, th nhs was open.
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According to the BBC, the proposals were "commissioned by Conservative Party officials" which might mean SpAds.Flightpath said:
We can all chip in to make suggestions... but these leaked suggestions were not commissioned by politicians and not seen by Cameron or Osborne.MikeL said:It's always far harder taking money away from some people than not giving other people extra money.
Look at the fuss re the "bedroom tax" - yet this year many benefits are increasing in nominal terms.
Rather than, eg, taking money off carers it would be far more palatable to just freeze all benefits for say five years. Cameron has talked about freezing some, but certainly not all, benefits for two years. I would freeze the lot for five years.
If he has to go for some specifics, have another go at cutting tax credits. We are still paying tax credits (on top of child benefit) to people with gross incomes a bit over £25k. Phase tax credits out at a somewhat lower level.
When it comes to making cuts the civil service always produce the most unpalatable of lists and then of course if possible leak them. They are the last ones who want to see cuts.
Lets not forget that between 2000 and 2010 Brown increased spending by 50% in real terms. Its the biggest increase in peacetime spending ever. There was no way that was affordable. Brown ran the economy like a runaway train and in the end it hit the buffers.
Much of the increase 2008 to 2010 was to counter the effects of the global financial crisis. Osborne is spending more.0 -
BBC under fire for failing to declare David Cameron as winner of Battle for Number 10
The Tories are furious that the corporation failed to report in clear terms that David Cameron had beaten Ed Miliband in the first debate.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11500709/BBC-under-fire-for-failing-to-declare-David-Cameron-as-winner-of-Battle-for-Number-10.html
Not as bad when they said Boris only just won, when his victory was the same size as Obama's, which they described as obviously as wiping the floor.0 -
the BBC needs putting out of its miseryFrancisUrquhart said:BBC under fire for failing to declare David Cameron as winner of Battle for Number 10
The Tories are furious that the corporation failed to report in clear terms that David Cameron had beaten Ed Miliband in the first debate.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11500709/BBC-under-fire-for-failing-to-declare-David-Cameron-as-winner-of-Battle-for-Number-10.html
Not as bad when they said Boris only just won, when his victory was the same size as Obama's, which they described as obviously as wiping the floor.0 -
This 5% profit thing is the daftest policy ed has come up with. It plainly shows that he has no understanding of how businesses work. We are an electrical contractor. If On all our projects we had only allowed a 5% profit we would go out of business pretty quickly, pure and simple. In order to cover stuff like bad debts, slow payers, training, plant, transport, health and safety and general investment in the company we have to work on a minimum of 12.5%. We would turn down work if the profit was only 5%. With the investment required in health providers I am sure such companies will work on a figure of around 20%.0
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GP weekend and home visits are areas where our service has certainly declined over the last generation and compares poorly with some other countries. In fact, when I lived in Switzerland, we had two home visits from a vet to treat a sick cat - one of them on Christmas Eve. We thought that was pretty awesome.Anorak said:
Try getting a sick kid to a GP at the weekend. And don't suggest A&E, a grim place full of shrieking, bleeding, drunk people with 3 hour waits is not where I want to be with a 5-year-old child with suspected flu.
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