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This seems like a quality Streeting plan – politicalbetting.com

That said I have said many times that ‘I consider Wes Streeting the least transfer friendly candidate under the alternative vote system Labour use to elect their leader.’

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  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,132
    Zeroth.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,128
    It cannot seriously be Ed.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    edited May 11
    A Survation Labour members poll finds Starmer would still beat Streeting and Ed Miliband, only Burnham and Rayner beat the PM with Burnham the only potential Labour leadership candidate to get over 50% of Labour members votes over the PM



    https://x.com/DamianSurvation/status/2053775444004962697?s=20'
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,542
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    Come on, Ed!!
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,726
    HYUFD said:

    A Survation Labour members poll finds Starmer would still beat Streeting and Ed Miliband, only Burnham and Rayner beat the PM with Burnham the only potential Labour leadership candidate to get over 50% of Labour members votes over the PM



    https://x.com/DamianSurvation/status/2053775444004962697?s=20'

    That's three months old.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,385
    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579
    edited May 11
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    You see, it can get worse. Labour MPs are jumping the gun. They should have seen the rest of the year out, let the Iran situation normalise, let the Gaza effect die down and become memory holed and then fired the starting gun.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579
    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    edited May 11
    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    No the confidence vote does work, we're back to the PM having the power to call elections, we're back to the Lascelles Principles.

    To be honest I think King Charles III would have the right to refuse an early election.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,132
    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    Lascelles #1 is surely met for grounds for refusal of a dissolution.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032
    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    I thought the prerogative was restored
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    No the confidence vote does work, we're back to the PM having all the power to call elections, we're back to the Lascelles Principles.

    To be honest I think King Charles III would have the right to refuse an early election.
    Labour has a huge majority, none of their MPs are going to vote for an early election and make Farage PM
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,956
    Come on get on with it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    Gallowgate said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
    I totally agree.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,144
    Sky

    Catherine West has 80 names
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    Gallowgate said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
    Streeting would beat Ed Miliband, Rayner would beat both but she needs to get 80 Labour MPs to nominate her first if their is a contest
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    RobD said:

    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    Lascelles #1 is surely met for grounds for refusal of a dissolution.
    Lascelles #3 too.

    Heck I reckon Lascelles #2 would also apply.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    No the confidence vote does work, we're back to the PM having the power to call elections, we're back to the Lascelles Principles.

    To be honest I think King Charles III would have the right to refuse an early election.
    Ah I didn't realise the PM had the power again, agree that Charlie could fairly ask if there was another Labour MP who could command the confidence of the house before agreeing to an early election because Labour have a huge majority.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky

    Catherine West has 80 names

    Which given she has said she is not standing for the leadership herself means sod all
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,956
    Pupils in Scotland have told the BBC they were left upset, hopeless and fearing for their futures after sitting a Higher Maths exam which they said was "totally unrecognisable" from what they had prepared for in class.

    More than 11,000 people have signed a petition, external calling for a review of the paper, which states it was "poorly worded, inconsistently structured, and out of step with every previous paper".

    One of the main complaints the BBC has heard is that some "command words" - the words that indicate how you should answer the question - were different to what pupils had been taught to expect, so they did not know what was being asked.

    Bloody snowflakes.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,144
    HYUFD said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky

    Catherine West has 80 names

    Which given she has said she is not standing for the leadership herself means sod all
    You really do not understand what is happening do you
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    edited May 11
    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,132
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    Lascelles #1 is surely met for grounds for refusal of a dissolution.
    Lascelles #3 too.

    Heck I reckon Lascelles #2 would also apply.
    Who needs a written constitution when you have the letters to the editor.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,853
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,128
    Mahmood has told PM to go
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    edited May 11
    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,132
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Pupils in Scotland have told the BBC they were left upset, hopeless and fearing for their futures after sitting a Higher Maths exam which they said was "totally unrecognisable" from what they had prepared for in class.

    More than 11,000 people have signed a petition, external calling for a review of the paper, which states it was "poorly worded, inconsistently structured, and out of step with every previous paper".

    One of the main complaints the BBC has heard is that some "command words" - the words that indicate how you should answer the question - were different to what pupils had been taught to expect, so they did not know what was being asked.

    Bloody snowflakes.

    Would be interesting to see examples. It sounds as though they’ve been taught to answer the exam, rather than actually understand the problem.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,847
    Gaussian said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky

    Catherine West has 80 names

    Must be a pain when filling out passport forms.
    Also a real PITA on the ballot paper at an election.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,429
    edited May 11
    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    A VONC now has the effect of causing the government to resign, followed by the possibility of an alternative configuration and leader commanding the confidence of the house, absent this there is an general election.

    The exact and silly rules of the FTPA, now repealed, have gone and, IMO, we are back with the old Victorian custom. This may have been legislated for but I haven't checked.

    Looking at the Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022 may shed further light, but life is short and will wait till tomorrow (except the rate of progress today means tomorrow may be too late).
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,956
    Totally O/T....if people are looking for some decent, I highly recommend Legends on Netflix.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,726
    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Ugh.

    A desire for panopticon AI “the eyes of the state can be on you at all times” surveillance is not desirable in a PM.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    Lascelles #1 is surely met for grounds for refusal of a dissolution.
    Lascelles #3 too.

    Heck I reckon Lascelles #2 would also apply.
    Who needs a written constitution when you have the letters to the editor.
    Indeed, the American can stick their constitution up their jacksies.

    When we get a bad PM we just kick them out, you leave the Mango Mussolini in charge.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,335
    Anyone have Mahmood on their bingo card?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,956
    RobD said:

    Zeroth.

    Is the number of Starmer supporters left in government?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 9,133
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    When power drains away it drains away fast. I admit I didn’t think they would have the guts to force the issue but it looks like it has become unsustainable.

    So passes one of the most disappointing premierships I can think of.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Anyone have Mahmood on their bingo card?

    Yes, she's a lawyer, lawyers are the best.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,297
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky

    Catherine West has 80 names

    That's nothing, Grant Shapps has at least 85.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,890
    numbertwelve said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    When power drains away it drains away fast. I admit I didn’t think they would have the guts to force the issue but it looks like it has become unsustainable.

    So passes one of the most disappointing premierships I can think of.
    Yes, all these goals from corners is just dull.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,956
    edited May 11
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RochdalePioneers said:

    Anyone have Mahmood on their bingo card?

    Yes, she's a lawyer, lawyers are the best.
    Your joking....not another one.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,335
    What the fuck do they do with the King's Speech? Parliament gets opened on Wednesday with no functioning government and no program to announce. At least not one that will last more than 5 minutes
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    This header is why I want Wes Streeting to win.

    He has the most punnable name, his name is quality Streeting.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 9,133
    I can’t see Streeting getting it.

    There will be another candidate.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,936
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    HYUFD said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky

    Catherine West has 80 names

    Which given she has said she is not standing for the leadership herself means sod all
    You really do not understand what is happening do you
    Starmer came second in council seats won; he's now untouchable under the rhyules
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579
    RochdalePioneers said:

    HYUFD said:

    A Survation Labour members poll finds Starmer would still beat Streeting and Ed Miliband, only Burnham and Rayner beat the PM with Burnham the only potential Labour leadership candidate to get over 50% of Labour members votes over the PM



    https://x.com/DamianSurvation/status/2053775444004962697?s=20'

    Congratulations HY. A governmental leadership crisis where you can just sit back with a bag of popcorn, knowing that you don't need to try and contort yourself into knots to defend or excuse it.
    How much relief have you got now that you've quit Labour?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,577
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    So that pep talk this morning went well then, Starmer.

    Twelve hours later and he is Billy No Mates.

    Sod them all - and call an election!

    Surely no majority for it, the old method of calling a confidende vote doesn't work does it?
    No the confidence vote does work, we're back to the PM having the power to call elections, we're back to the Lascelles Principles.

    To be honest I think King Charles III would have the right to refuse an early election.
    King Charles III exercised more leadership with one speech in America than Starmer has in 6 years.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,144
    Sky saying it's pizzas going into no 10, so not currry !!!!!!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RochdalePioneers said:

    Anyone have Mahmood on their bingo card?

    Yes, she's a lawyer, lawyers are the best.
    Your joking....not only one.
    Lammy too.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    A lovely birthday present to OGH (and may God keep him well)

    A proper leader assassination. And Labour, too!

    Skyr is surely no more. He is an ex-premier-manque
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,128
    HYUFD has been extremely poor on Labour.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,364
    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    25m
    The Cabinet Ministers are reported to be from different wings, and are not aligned behind a particular candidate.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    RochdalePioneers said:

    HYUFD said:

    A Survation Labour members poll finds Starmer would still beat Streeting and Ed Miliband, only Burnham and Rayner beat the PM with Burnham the only potential Labour leadership candidate to get over 50% of Labour members votes over the PM



    https://x.com/DamianSurvation/status/2053775444004962697?s=20'

    Congratulations HY. A governmental leadership crisis where you can just sit back with a bag of popcorn, knowing that you don't need to try and contort yourself into knots to defend or excuse it.
    True but it is not good for the country to constantly change PMs and there is little evidence in the polls any alternative bar Burnham would poll much better than Starmer. This now clearly looks like a push from the Labour right by Streeting backers and Mahmood but unless they can stop Rayner getting the 80 MPs she needs to go to Labour members we could end up with Rayner as PM who would be frankly worse than Starmer
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,936
    edited May 11
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    This header is why I want Wes Streeting to win.

    He has the most punnable name, his name is quality Streeting.

    Downing Street down Streeting

    or

    Streeting down Downing Street
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,429
    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Yvette Cooper is my John Major candidate.

  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    HYUFD has been extremely poor on Labour.

    He has. His antennae are wobbling

    He's letting wish become father to thought. Sir James Cleverly will be Tory leader. Starmer will stay on. It's all a hankering for the past
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 635
    Leon_VotedForStarmer said:

    A lovely birthday present to OGH (and may God keep him well)

    A proper leader assassination. And Labour, too!

    Skyr is surely no more. He is an ex-premier-manque

    His authority has drained away this evening.
    The herd has moved.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,577
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    She'll never win but she might be the best candidate from the point of view of winning an election.

    Of course, hardcore Progressives would probably hate her.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Labour members would never vote for Mahmood, she has more chance winning a Tory leadership race now than a Labour one
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,364

    Nick Robinson
    @bbcnickrobinson
    The herd is moving but even more striking than the growing number of backbenchers & PPS’s calling publicly for Starmer to go is the silence of so much of the Cabinet

    https://x.com/bbcnickrobinson/status/2053923925311045881
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,335
    Live footage from inside Number 10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNBdjVO04Y
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,726
    BlancheLivermore said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    This header is why I want Wes Streeting to win.

    He has the most punnable name, his name is quality Streeting.

    Downing Street down Streeting

    or

    Streeting down Downing Street
    Street Fighting Man
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,335
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky saying it's pizzas going into no 10, so not currry !!!!!!

    Our village curry house does a fantastic Chicken Tikka pizza
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,577
    Gallowgate said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
    I want good government, not craic.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    She'll never win but she might be the best candidate from the point of view of winning an election.

    Of course, hardcore Progressives would probably hate her.
    Sadly I can't see most of the Reform vote voting for a Muslim woman over Farage either
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,847
    RochdalePioneers said:

    What the fuck do they do with the King's Speech? Parliament gets opened on Wednesday with no functioning government and no program to announce. At least not one that will last more than 5 minutes

    Ealing comedy sets in with the King doing increasingly bonkers things to stall or cancel the speech.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,865
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky saying it's pizzas going into no 10, so not currry !!!!!!

    Our village curry house does a fantastic Chicken Tikka pizza
    Does it come with an added pineapple option too?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    edited May 11
    algarkirk said:

    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Yvette Cooper is my John Major candidate.

    Cooper is far more likely than Mahmood and as Foreign Secretary a strong contender given new PMs for a party in power always have held one of the 3 Great Offices of State, neither Burnham nor Streeting nor Rayner have. Labour are also hardly likely to go back to Ed Miliband either who led them to humiliating defeat in the 2015 GE
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,335
    londonpubman said:

    RochdalePioneers said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky saying it's pizzas going into no 10, so not currry !!!!!!

    Our village curry house does a fantastic Chicken Tikka pizza
    Does it come with an added pineapple option too?
    What kind of deviated prevert do you think I am?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,577
    HYUFD said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    She'll never win but she might be the best candidate from the point of view of winning an election.

    Of course, hardcore Progressives would probably hate her.
    Sadly I can't see most of the Reform vote voting for a Muslim woman over Farage either
    I don't think that matters.

    Most voters don't care about identity politics.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    Casino_Royale said:

    HYUFD said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    She'll never win but she might be the best candidate from the point of view of winning an election.

    Of course, hardcore Progressives would probably hate her.
    Sadly I can't see most of the Reform vote voting for a Muslim woman over Farage either
    I don't think that matters.

    Most voters don't care about identity politics.
    The Reform core vote do
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,132
    solarflare said:

    RochdalePioneers said:

    What the fuck do they do with the King's Speech? Parliament gets opened on Wednesday with no functioning government and no program to announce. At least not one that will last more than 5 minutes

    Ealing comedy sets in with the King doing increasingly bonkers things to stall or cancel the speech.
    A face-saving option would be for the Lords Commissioners to open Parliament.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,335
    An updated video from inside Number 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7qOV8xonfY
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 635
    Casino_Royale said:

    Gallowgate said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
    I want good government, not craic.
    Don’t be such a killjoy.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,853
    HYUFD said:

    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Labour members would never vote for Mahmood, she has more chance winning a Tory leadership race now than a Labour one
    Coronation.

    A contested election involving the unions, etc, would be a terrible look for Labour at the moment.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    HYUFD has been extremely poor on Labour.

    Yawn
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,128
    HYUFD said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    HYUFD has been extremely poor on Labour.

    Yawn
    I like you mate but you should occasionally hold your hands up.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,193
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Pupils in Scotland have told the BBC they were left upset, hopeless and fearing for their futures after sitting a Higher Maths exam which they said was "totally unrecognisable" from what they had prepared for in class.

    More than 11,000 people have signed a petition, external calling for a review of the paper, which states it was "poorly worded, inconsistently structured, and out of step with every previous paper".

    One of the main complaints the BBC has heard is that some "command words" - the words that indicate how you should answer the question - were different to what pupils had been taught to expect, so they did not know what was being asked.

    Bloody snowflakes.

    Note also the comments about past papers. At the uni the students constantly ask us for past papers as they have learnt this way at school (doing endless past papers to learn what’s coming). It’s not teaching them understanding, nor the ability to apply knowledge to new situations.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,128
    I still think a coronation is possible.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,861
    williamglenn said:

    HYUFD said:

    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Labour members would never vote for Mahmood, she has more chance winning a Tory leadership race now than a Labour one
    Coronation.

    A contested election involving the unions, etc, would be a terrible look for Labour at the moment.
    Mahmood is hardly going to be able to get a coronation when the Labour left would never accept her as leader
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,342
    Another two year Prime Minister. The good news is we'll have time for a third before the general election is upon us.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,865
    Maybe Al Carns will become leader?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,866
    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Yvette Cooper is my John Major candidate.

    Cooper is far more likely than Mahmood and as Foreign Secretary a strong contender given new PMs for a party in power always have held one of the 3 Great Offices of State, neither Burnham nor Streeting nor Rayner have. Labour are also hardly likely to go back to Ed Miliband either who led them to humiliating defeat in the 2015 GE
    That would be sensible. The evidence of the last couple of days is that the Labour Party have decided to give up on being sensible.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    edited May 11
    Leon_VotedForStarmer said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    HYUFD has been extremely poor on Labour.

    He has. His antennae are wobbling

    He's letting wish become father to thought. Sir James Cleverly will be Tory leader. Starmer will stay on. It's all a hankering for the past
    He might be proven right yet.

    It entirely possible a new PM gets a bounce (they usually do, heck even Gordon Brown and Liz Truss did) and that sees the Tories fifth in the polls.

    Coupled with last week's poor results Tory MPs might get itchy fingers.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,128
    Stuartinromford said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    williamglenn said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Shabana Mahmood could be the John Major of this contest if the other rival factions cancel each other out.
    Yvette Cooper is my John Major candidate.

    Cooper is far more likely than Mahmood and as Foreign Secretary a strong contender given new PMs for a party in power always have held one of the 3 Great Offices of State, neither Burnham nor Streeting nor Rayner have. Labour are also hardly likely to go back to Ed Miliband either who led them to humiliating defeat in the 2015 GE
    That would be sensible. The evidence of the last couple of days is that the Labour Party have decided to give up on being sensible.
    The fact they’ve actually chosen to kick out a loser suggests the current Labour MPs are more determined to change than I thought.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,577
    We need a Downfall video.

    Hopefully, Hitler asks if Andy Burnham got his nomination papers in on time.


  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    I still think a coronation is possible.

    Coronation Streeting?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,193
    RobD said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Pupils in Scotland have told the BBC they were left upset, hopeless and fearing for their futures after sitting a Higher Maths exam which they said was "totally unrecognisable" from what they had prepared for in class.

    More than 11,000 people have signed a petition, external calling for a review of the paper, which states it was "poorly worded, inconsistently structured, and out of step with every previous paper".

    One of the main complaints the BBC has heard is that some "command words" - the words that indicate how you should answer the question - were different to what pupils had been taught to expect, so they did not know what was being asked.

    Bloody snowflakes.

    Would be interesting to see examples. It sounds as though they’ve been taught to answer the exam, rather than actually understand the problem.
    Yep. Takes us years at Uni to get them out of this mindset, if we ever do. They learn to pass exams b6 answering past papers.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,838
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just stuck this tweet in the header.

    EXCLUSIVE:

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by Shabana Mahmood and other senior Cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his depature from Number 10

    The Times has been told that Mahmood, the home secretary, is one of at least three cabinet ministers to suggest that the prime minister needs to consider his position

    Starmer will be told by ministers at Cabinet tomorrow that his position is increasingly "unsustainable" given the strength of feeling among Labour MPs

    Wes Streeting is preparing to mount his bid for Number 10 after more than 70 Labour MPs publicly called for the prime minister to step down

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2053927095349194841

    Mahmood has glimpsed the future in the Birmingham Council elections. She knows she is doomed at the GE if Starmer is in charge.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,568
    Casino_Royale said:

    Gallowgate said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
    I want good government, not craic.
    Do PBers not want me to have a 100/1 winner?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,257
    edited May 11
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Cabinet ministers tell Starmer to consider his position

    Sir Keir Starmer has been told by senior cabinet ministers to consider setting out a timeline for his departure after more than 70 Labour MPs called for him to go.

    The Times has been told that at least three ministers including Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, have told Starmer that he should consider his position.

    Cabinet ministers are expected to tell Starmer at cabinet on Tuesday that he needs to stand down amid concerns that his position is now unsustainable.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-speech-latest-news-resign-live-gkz7n9wpj

    Ending the chaos, Labour style! :D
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,936
    RochdalePioneers said:

    londonpubman said:

    RochdalePioneers said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Sky saying it's pizzas going into no 10, so not currry !!!!!!

    Our village curry house does a fantastic Chicken Tikka pizza
    Does it come with an added pineapple option too?
    What kind of deviated prevert do you think I am?
    This doesn't actually look too bad..

    https://www.coachray.nz/2023/09/20/chef-ray-chicken-pineapple-curry-garlic-naan-wrap/
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    HYUFD said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    HYUFD has been extremely poor on Labour.

    Yawn
    Unfortunately, it is true. And I am admirer of your spiky, loyal, determined Toryism. You are generally an asset to the site

    But of late you've been a bit out of whack. As I said, this weird obsession with Sir James Cleverly becoming leader. It's just not going to happen (or, if it does, it will be the Tories accepting they are the new Lib Dems - a small party for a few rich constituencies)

    And you've been asbolutely adamant that Starmer will survive to the next GE, and found multiple different ways to explain why this will happen. You remind me of @algakirk reassuring himself Reform can never win. When a PB commenter is starting with a desired outcome and working backwards, that is a warning sign

    Get Well Soon
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,789
    Could the MPs coronate Streeting as PM?

    Trouble is whether Labour party members would back him.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,132
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Gallowgate said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    It cannot seriously be Ed.

    It would be great craic to be fair. EICIPM
    I want good government, not craic.
    Do PBers not want me to have a 100/1 winner?
    Not sure I’m ready for chaos with Ed Miliband.
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