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Opposition to the United States' military action against Iran has risen by 10pts among Britons over the last weekSupport: 25% (-3 from 2 March)Oppose: 59% (+10)yougov.com/en-gb/daily-…

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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,799
    Good Morning

    Cheltenham, Day 1

    Who is on the Mullins treble?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,017
    Scott_xP said:

    Good Morning

    Cheltenham, Day 1

    Who is on the Mullins treble?

    A jockey?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,007

    This isn't the stop the war coalition; this is public sentiment.

    And the phrasing of the question probably has an impact here. If it were phrased: "Do you support or oppose the UK taking military action against Iran?" it might get a different response.

    You mean more would be opposed ?

    Not wildly different in the US.

    U.S. Military Action Against Iran: Over Half Of Voters Oppose It,
    74% Oppose Sending Ground Troops Into Iran
    https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3952
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,635
    Whatever the opinions of people or politicians, wars won't stop. They never have. The only question is which wars we will be bounced into and by whom?

    The next phase of the Epstein Wars will be Cuba - or that island of penguins that is refusing to pay the tariffs.
  • I mean are you surprised?

    It was plainly obvious that Farage and Badenoch were on the wrong side of public opinion at the very start.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,005
    I heard on R4 that support for the war in Israel is 80% which I imagine is the important number. Bibi will keep riding that horse as long as it keeps away from the prison gate.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,385
    Scott_xP said:

    Good Morning

    Cheltenham, Day 1

    Who is on the Mullins treble?

    Or the Hendo treble? And it's JP's 75th birthday!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,017
    Nigelb said:

    This isn't the stop the war coalition; this is public sentiment.

    And the phrasing of the question probably has an impact here. If it were phrased: "Do you support or oppose the UK taking military action against Iran?" it might get a different response.

    You mean more would be opposed ?

    Not wildly different in the US.

    U.S. Military Action Against Iran: Over Half Of Voters Oppose It,
    74% Oppose Sending Ground Troops Into Iran
    https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3952
    The more pertinent problem is that rather a lot of those voters will be Republicans who fell for Trump's lies about foreign adventures (which may include Vance, of course).

    We shouldn't read too much into the result of this special election in Georgia, for all sorts of reasons, but it will be interesting to see the aggregated vote shares of the 12 Republicans against the three Democrats.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,741
    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,007
    After watching thirty thousand get slaughtered, and encouraging them to take to the streets nonetheless, because "help wa on its way".

    Reporter: You promised the Iranian people you would help them.

    Trump: Will I help them? I'd like to, if they can behave, but they've been very menacing,

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031134866360963295
  • eekeek Posts: 32,813
    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    To be honest it’s done a really good job of hiding those Trump child sex abuse stories. Carefully released last Monday and no one noticed them
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,694
    Nigelb said:

    This isn't the stop the war coalition; this is public sentiment.

    And the phrasing of the question probably has an impact here. If it were phrased: "Do you support or oppose the UK taking military action against Iran?" it might get a different response.

    You mean more would be opposed ?

    Not wildly different in the US.

    U.S. Military Action Against Iran: Over Half Of Voters Oppose It,
    74% Oppose Sending Ground Troops Into Iran
    https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3952
    That's an interesting question, and certainly a possibility.

    The biggest driver would be whether HMG were advocating for it and making the case, or not; if it were, I'd expect we'd see a 40:40 split in opinion, which would be a majority if the RAF, say, went into action.

    People don't like to admit their opinion can be led, but it is.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,636
    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: a 4 minute ramble about whether Ferrari can challenge for the title (short version: yes):

    https://medium.com/p/093907f9bb2d
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,694
    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    I support it. At present, the Iranian navy, air force and missile capability is effectively gone - good - but that's not enough.

    My view is the existing Iranian regime must go. And the nuclear stockpiles must be secured.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,854
    Nigelb said:

    This isn't the stop the war coalition; this is public sentiment.

    And the phrasing of the question probably has an impact here. If it were phrased: "Do you support or oppose the UK taking military action against Iran?" it might get a different response.

    You mean more would be opposed ?

    Not wildly different in the US.

    U.S. Military Action Against Iran: Over Half Of Voters Oppose It,
    74% Oppose Sending Ground Troops Into Iran
    https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3952
    That chimes with my experience: the Americans I spoke to last week, and the US new coverage, were all way more negative about the war than here in the UK. It was really quite notable.

    Trump had managed to unite anti-Trump liberals and MAGA isolationists.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,813
    edited 8:24AM

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    So to be blunt the only money keeping high street solicitors going is the interest on their client accounts that probably should be being paid to their clients

  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,709

    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    I support it. At present, the Iranian navy, air force and missile capability is effectively gone - good - but that's not enough.

    My view is the existing Iranian regime must go. And the nuclear stockpiles must be secured.
    How.many heads does the hydra have?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,226
    The Labour cabinet are in a difficult position as they’d like to hammer Reform and the Tories over their eagerness to join Trumps clusterfxck in Iran but can’t say too much as they don’t want a further fracture with the WH .

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,636
    edited 8:26AM
    eek said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    So to be blunt the only money keeping high street solicitors going is the interest on their client accounts that probably should be being paid to their clients

    Getting rid of solicitors after getting rid of juries is quite the 1-2 given Starmer's former role.

    Edited: also, even if one makes the argument the solicitors shouldn't be making the money, the idea it belongs to the Government rather than the people whose actual money it is is absolute horseshit.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,017

    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    I support it. At present, the Iranian navy, air force and missile capability is effectively gone - good - but that's not enough.

    My view is the existing Iranian regime must go. And the nuclear stockpiles must be secured.
    It would be very nice to achieve those two things.

    I have seen nothing to suggest that bombing the living Shi'ite out of the Iranians will achieve them.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,709
    nico67 said:

    The Labour cabinet are in a difficult position as they’d like to hammer Reform and the Tories over their eagerness to join Trumps clusterfxck in Iran but can’t say too much as they don’t want a further fracture with the WH .

    You can be sure Statmer will make the wrong decision
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,741
    eek said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    So to be blunt the only money keeping high street solicitors going is the interest on their client accounts that probably should be being paid to their clients

    Yes, the alternative is to increase billing rates.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,122
    On topic, I doubt it will damage them much, if at all. The Conservatives are I think down to their core level of support and few of Reform's voters seem to care particularly, certainly not enough to vote Labour (whose position on this, as usual with Starmer, is confusing and unintelligible anyway) or Green. It might be different if they were in a position to do anything about it, but they're in powerless opposition for the next few years.

    Just as whatever stupidity Trump did or criminal conviction he got before the 2024 election didn't damage his support, because those who cared didn't support him in the first place.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,017

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,005
    edited 8:28AM
    Bet the ICRG are shitting their pants now the Special Skinny Jeans Air Service are in town.

    https://x.com/tatenews_/status/2031008427674157419?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,492
    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,112

    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    I support it. At present, the Iranian navy, air force and missile capability is effectively gone - good - but that's not enough.

    My view is the existing Iranian regime must go. And the nuclear stockpiles must be secured.
    And how do you do that without actually putting troops on the ground in Iran?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,449
    Scott_xP said:

    Good Morning

    Cheltenham, Day 1

    Who is on the Mullins treble?

    I follow Andrew Asquith in the Sporting Life for racing tips, has shown a modest if consistent profit despite generally not getting on at the tipped odds and rule 4.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,226
    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


  • TazTaz Posts: 25,849
    Some optimistic news

    ‘ Saudi Aramco says it expect to reach full capacity at its East-West pipeline to the Red Seat in next couple of days as oil tankers arrive to load.

    That’s ~7m b/d (or ~6m b/d above pre-war levels already exported via Red Sea). Let’s see, but if confirmed, absolutely critical’


    https://x.com/javierblas/status/2031274061716738149?s=61
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,849
    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    Why is it strange given ours has a large element of tax they don’t have.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,035

    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    I support it. At present, the Iranian navy, air force and missile capability is effectively gone - good - but that's not enough.

    My view is the existing Iranian regime must go. And the nuclear stockpiles must be secured.
    Do you think military action can successfully achieve these aims, along with reolacing the regime with something more amenable to British interests?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,514
    edited 8:35AM

    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,472

    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    There is little anti-Kemi sentiment on here as far as I am aware, Big G. Her personal stock remains solid. She may have misjudged this one, but she's a LOTO and can get away with that as long as she retains personal credibility, which does not look to me to be in danger.

    Her problem remains her Party, as it was for her predecessor, and a few more before him.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,974
    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    That's always the case, because a much bigger share of the UK fuel price is a fixed tax (fuel duty).
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,974

    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    I support it. At present, the Iranian navy, air force and missile capability is effectively gone - good - but that's not enough.

    My view is the existing Iranian regime must go. And the nuclear stockpiles must be secured.
    I'm sure that reality will bend itself to your wishes.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,449
    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .



    Has Trump's OCG moved into the oil business?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,226
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    Why is it strange given ours has a large element of tax they don’t have.
    Not sure that answers it . Yes our prices started off already higher per gallon but that’s not the point .
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,635

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    The legal sector has been in need of a shake out for a long time. Too many chasing too little work at too low a price.

    I know most people don't want to use lawyers and will ask Google LLB or ChatGPT but what you can get for so little money is untrue.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,781

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Whilst I disagree with the policy which is pointless fiddling of Brownian scale, I question whether £500/year per head would drive "swathes" of solicitors out of business.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,514
    Nigelb said:

    After watching thirty thousand get slaughtered, and encouraging them to take to the streets nonetheless, because "help wa on its way".

    Reporter: You promised the Iranian people you would help them.

    Trump: Will I help them? I'd like to, if they can behave, but they've been very menacing,

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031134866360963295

    I can't think of a more moronic leader ever. When we get to looking back there will be a lot of red faces. All those sycophants from around the world including the UK wont know where to put themselves.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,226
    Am I being a bit slow ! Surely the wholesale price would still go up a lot similar to the US .
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,449
    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    Do small Solicitor's firms hoover up the client account interest to the same extent as large chains?
    My understanding is that interest is supposed to be returned to the clients
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,005

    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    That's always the case, because a much bigger share of the UK fuel price is a fixed tax (fuel duty).
    How much has it gone up in the UK? (I don't know as I last bought petrol just before the war started). 60¢ a gallon is 12p a litre.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,226

    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    That's always the case, because a much bigger share of the UK fuel price is a fixed tax (fuel duty).
    How much has it gone up in the UK? (I don't know as I last bought petrol just before the war started). 60¢ a gallon is 12p a litre.
    The UK increase is apparently averaging around 6.5 p a litre .
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,005
    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    Why should a business not pay tax on interest? Or is it already declared as profit and therefore this is double taxation?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,496
    Roger said:



    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
    Badenoch is the Verucca Salt of Parliament. Her biggest problem is that generally the LOTO during an unpopular government is seen as PM in waiting. Badenoch's problem is that she is irrelevant.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,293
    Worth repeating again 43% of Tory Voters disagree with Tory leader stance.

    There are 3 campos here

    Support - REFORM and half Tories and a few others

    Oppose - Green and vast majority of LD and Lab

    Middle ground Starmer...its reassuring for him that almost as many LD (12 % ) and Labour (14%) support action but he won't the "do fuck all to support Trump and tell him to f off) votes that Greens / LD will get.

    However, most commentators on Centre Left and who aren;t told what to write by rabid right press are broadly supportive of his stance.

    Any vote slippage and more so the longer it drages on with be One Nation Tories slipping to LD most likely in South, tactically more likely to Labour to keep Reform out in Midlands and north and a big possible drain for Tories as Kemi seems hell bent on out nigeling Nigel on this issue and many others.

    May be another week or so before Gorton loses momentum in all Polls and Iran takes precedence...Starmer will be looking at any Polls from 7th onwards for boost!

  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,635

    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    There is little anti-Kemi sentiment on here as far as I am aware, Big G. Her personal stock remains solid. She may have misjudged this one, but she's a LOTO and can get away with that as long as she retains personal credibility, which does not look to me to be in danger.

    Her problem remains her Party, as it was for her predecessor, and a few more before him.
    Didn't the Party vote her in? And if the Party is the problem what does that say about the people they vote it - May, Truss, Rishi, Boris and now Kemi?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,609

    eek said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    So to be blunt the only money keeping high street solicitors going is the interest on their client accounts that probably should be being paid to their clients

    Yes, the alternative is to increase billing rates.
    Or pay cuts.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,440

    Shakes head in disbelief.
    I just rang Northampton hospital because I have discovered an ex work colleague is in the hospital and pretty unwell
    I could not get past the switchboard because I didn't know his date of birth

    I just wanted to send a message of support but permission was refused.

    Its bonkers.

    Very silly.

    Pop to the post office and send a card next day signed for. Mark it Name (inpatient). Some chance it gets through. Bonus points if you have a ward number.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,813
    Taz said:

    Some optimistic news

    ‘ Saudi Aramco says it expect to reach full capacity at its East-West pipeline to the Red Seat in next couple of days as oil tankers arrive to load.

    That’s ~7m b/d (or ~6m b/d above pre-war levels already exported via Red Sea). Let’s see, but if confirmed, absolutely critical’


    https://x.com/javierblas/status/2031274061716738149?s=61

    Except supposedly the port can currently only load 2.5m b/d,
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,799
    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    I saw somewhere that the US economy is more dependent on oil than any other. It was couched in terms like every dollar the US economy generates, 40% is based on oil. For China it's 20%
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,974

    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    That's always the case, because a much bigger share of the UK fuel price is a fixed tax (fuel duty).
    How much has it gone up in the UK? (I don't know as I last bought petrol just before the war started). 60¢ a gallon is 12p a litre.
    I'm going to find out on Friday when I have to drive to Oxford and will probably have to fill up the car...
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,293
    Dopermean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Good Morning

    Cheltenham, Day 1

    Who is on the Mullins treble?

    I follow Andrew Asquith in the Sporting Life for racing tips, has shown a modest if consistent profit despite generally not getting on at the tipped odds and rule 4.
    I'm on PONIROS e/w in the Champion Hurdle for Mullins

    Also a few e/w touches on OLE OLE in the 2.40, BLOW YOUR WAD in the 3.20, DOWN MEMORY LANE + BOOSTER BOB in the 4.40, and ICEBERG THEORY + HOLOKEA in the 5.20

    Each Way punting to 4-5 places on big field handicaps is my bag.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,772
    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    In smaller towns and rural areas this is important. A recent malign shift has been cases where local firms that have been around for ages and have a decent reputation are quietly bought up by outfits from somewhere else and then either go bust or get into regulatory trouble.

    The other thing about such areas is that the reputation of individuals as opposed to firms as a whole is important.

  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,293
    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    YEP

    Crap advice on Legal Aid, mostly in local Cop Stations, form filling and being an integral part of the log jam

    The only advice "No Comment"....

    Money for Nothing Chips for Free
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,007
    edited 8:52AM

    Nigelb said:

    This isn't the stop the war coalition; this is public sentiment.

    And the phrasing of the question probably has an impact here. If it were phrased: "Do you support or oppose the UK taking military action against Iran?" it might get a different response.

    You mean more would be opposed ?

    Not wildly different in the US.

    U.S. Military Action Against Iran: Over Half Of Voters Oppose It,
    74% Oppose Sending Ground Troops Into Iran
    https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3952
    That's an interesting question, and certainly a possibility.

    The biggest driver would be whether HMG were advocating for it and making the case, or not; if it were, I'd expect we'd see a 40:40 split in opinion, which would be a majority if the RAF, say, went into action.

    People don't like to admit their opinion can be led, but it is.
    On this ?
    Like it is in the US, where the government is actively propagandising for it ?

    Don't be daft.

    Iraq set a much higher bar for governments saying "we must do this because WMD, etc".
    And Iran's nuclear program has already been set back years.

    Net result so far is that a lot of people have been killed, at considerable cost.
    There's already significant global economic disruption, which if this continues will become very serious.

    And we've swapped one tyrant for a more hardline one (in what was possibly a coup by the hard line clerics).
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,799
    Brixian59 said:

    Each Way punting to 4-5 places on big field handicaps is my bag.

    Do you follow RaceOlly?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,974
    nico67 said:

    Am I being a bit slow ! Surely the wholesale price would still go up a lot similar to the US .

    Indeed it does. But say, as a example, oil prices go up 50% and half the cost of UK fuel is duty and none of the cost in the US is duty then US fuel prices rise 50% and UK prices rise 25%.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,293

    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: a 4 minute ramble about whether Ferrari can challenge for the title (short version: yes):

    https://medium.com/p/093907f9bb2d

    Watching the Colopinto near miss of Lawson off the start , first massive massive credit to Colopinto

    MASSIVE concern for F1 - we don't want another Ronnie Petersen incident ever!
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,440

    nico67 said:

    The thing that’s a bit strange is the relative spike in fuel prices has been higher in the USA than in the UK .

    The average price in the US has gone up 60c a gallon , equivalent to around 20% .


    That's always the case, because a much bigger share of the UK fuel price is a fixed tax (fuel duty).
    How much has it gone up in the UK? (I don't know as I last bought petrol just before the war started). 60¢ a gallon is 12p a litre.
    I paid 133.9 yesterday vs 126.9 two weeks ago.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,514
    edited 8:53AM
    nico67 said:

    The Labour cabinet are in a difficult position as they’d like to hammer Reform and the Tories over their eagerness to join Trumps clusterfxck in Iran but can’t say too much as they don’t want a further fracture with the WH .

    It is certainly an opportunity for someone to break ranks. Kemi looks irrelevant. This was her chance and she blew it. Starmer's stock has risen if he doesn't blow it. He's managed to separate himself from Trump and now that Carney and Macron have done the same it looks like he might end up having had a good war.

    I heard this morning Smotrich's son might have been killed in Lebanon. As no 3 in the war criminals league maybe this is karma..
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,492
    Roger said:



    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
    LOL
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,636
    Brixian59 said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: a 4 minute ramble about whether Ferrari can challenge for the title (short version: yes):

    https://medium.com/p/093907f9bb2d

    Watching the Colopinto near miss of Lawson off the start , first massive massive credit to Colopinto

    MASSIVE concern for F1 - we don't want another Ronnie Petersen incident ever!
    His reactions were very swift indeed.

    I'd be surprised if we don't have a few crashes at the start due to someone failing to get going.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,897
    carnforth said:

    Shakes head in disbelief.
    I just rang Northampton hospital because I have discovered an ex work colleague is in the hospital and pretty unwell
    I could not get past the switchboard because I didn't know his date of birth

    I just wanted to send a message of support but permission was refused.

    Its bonkers.

    Very silly.

    Pop to the post office and send a card next day signed for. Mark it Name (inpatient). Some chance it gets through. Bonus points if you have a ward number.
    Thanks for that suggestion, I'll remember it.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,005
    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    YEP

    Crap advice on Legal Aid, mostly in local Cop Stations, form filling and being an integral part of the log jam

    The only advice "No Comment"....

    Money for Nothing Chips for Free
    Er, chicks for free
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,821

    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    YEP

    Crap advice on Legal Aid, mostly in local Cop Stations, form filling and being an integral part of the log jam

    The only advice "No Comment"....

    Money for Nothing Chips for Free
    Er, chicks for free
    Chips works as well.
  • isamisam Posts: 43,825

    The insanity of politicians telling us that diversity is our strength, and warning of people using the problems in the Middle East to stir up trouble by dividing Muslims and Jews is gaslighting of the highest order. The fact we have imported so many people who feel deeply about what is happening in the Middle East and subcontinent is the cause of the divide. Most English people don’t care


    I posted this last night, and @foxy replied saying the polling on our involvement in war proves me wrong. I disagree, he misses my point. It’s not military intervention that people don’t care about, it’s the Middle East. If we drew a big line around that part of the world, and the subcontinent, and never mentioned them again, most people wouldn’t care less. It’s due to mass immigration that there are so many with passionate views on the problem that lead to division, so it’s an imported problem that we didn’t need. Most normal English people are happy to let the mad mullahs do what they like as long as they don’t do it here and we are not involved

    Diversity is not our strength, it is our Achilles heel
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,449
    edited 9:05AM


    Yes, the alternative is to increase billing rates.

    Or pay cuts.

    Your average local solicitor isn't that well paid
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,514
    OT. The BBC have been at their very worst since the Iran invasion. Most of their commentators who are clearly new to war reporting have decided their best bet is to park themselves in Tel Aviv get a tan and enjoy the junket.

    I know they've lost most of their best people but watching Clive Myrie wondering what he's supposed to be doing iisn't great when the BBC is actually being watched around the world. Al Jazeera is many times more informative.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,017
    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    Given the ineptitude and in some cases, open criminality of large chains of solicitors the loss of smaller firms would actually be a major disaster. There has surely got to be a better way of managing them than this,
    YEP

    Crap advice on Legal Aid, mostly in local Cop Stations, form filling and being an integral part of the log jam

    The only advice "No Comment"....

    Money for Nothing Chips for Free
    Is that a suggested solution or an analysis of the problem?

    If the former it’s going to need major reform of legal aid.

    If the latter I’m surprised you know so little about the work of solicitors.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,293
    isam said:


    The insanity of politicians telling us that diversity is our strength, and warning of people using the problems in the Middle East to stir up trouble by dividing Muslims and Jews is gaslighting of the highest order. The fact we have imported so many people who feel deeply about what is happening in the Middle East and subcontinent is the cause of the divide. Most English people don’t care


    I posted this last night, and @foxy replied saying the polling on our involvement in war proves me wrong. I disagree, he misses my point. It’s not military intervention that people don’t care about, it’s the Middle East. If we drew a big line around that part of the world, and the subcontinent, and never mentioned them again, most people wouldn’t care less. It’s due to mass immigration that there are so many with passionate views on the problem that lead to division, so it’s an imported problem that we didn’t need. Most normal English people are happy to let the mad mullahs do what they like as long as they don’t do it here and we are not involved

    Diversity is not our strength, it is our Achilles heel

    British people have a built in charachteristic of fair play and decency and supporting the under dog.

    Despite it's colonialism, this is part of the DNA in my opinion.

    So irrespective of race, religion , politics (to a lesser degree) when we see an oppressed minority being the subject of mass murder by a stronger force, it is our natural tendency to support the underdog.

    The French are not sissimilar born of a number of revolutions, it is in the Scandinavian DNA

    The American mentality is totally opposite brutal brash uncaring omnipotent aggressive bullying!
    I sense India (politically driven) is going the same way
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,849
    edited 9:08AM
    isam said:


    The insanity of politicians telling us that diversity is our strength, and warning of people using the problems in the Middle East to stir up trouble by dividing Muslims and Jews is gaslighting of the highest order. The fact we have imported so many people who feel deeply about what is happening in the Middle East and subcontinent is the cause of the divide. Most English people don’t care


    I posted this last night, and @foxy replied saying the polling on our involvement in war proves me wrong. I disagree, he misses my point. It’s not military intervention that people don’t care about, it’s the Middle East. If we drew a big line around that part of the world, and the subcontinent, and never mentioned them again, most people wouldn’t care less. It’s due to mass immigration that there are so many with passionate views on the problem that lead to division, so it’s an imported problem that we didn’t need. Most normal English people are happy to let the mad mullahs do what they like as long as they don’t do it here and we are not involved

    Diversity is not our strength, it is our Achilles heel

    SKS disagrees !!!!

    If I never heard anything of the middle east again I’d be happy
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,099

    This isn't the stop the war coalition; this is public sentiment.

    And the phrasing of the question probably has an impact here. If it were phrased: "Do you support or oppose the UK taking military action against Iran?" it might get a different response.

    If you oppose the US taking this action, who are the ones actually doing it, you're not likely to support a hypothetical where it becomes OK if it's the UK does it instead.

    There is a range of nuanced positions where you think the decision to attack Iran was stupid or wrong, but once it was started, the UK needs to get involved in some way. Arguably Keir Starmer is in that group.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,347
    FPT

    Battlebus said:

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/2031128674737479765

    EXCL: One in four settled status migrants from outside the EU are claiming benefits, analysis reveals. 

    It has led Tories to warn that Britain must not remain a “cash machine for the world”.

    A wrinkle with the EU's Freedom Of Movement was that an EU national in the UK could only claim benefits if the were a worker and searching for work. The Boris Wave has no such restrictions.

    Funny that.
    No, "settled status" is the immigration status of settled EU citizens. The rest of the world has ILR. Both can claim benefits.
    Mum has Settled Status.
    Not Indefinite Leave to Remain? OK, I might be wrong then.
    We tried sorting our her new eVisa last year after a glitch in their system (starting an online application with a non-biometric Indian passport and all that). The resulting eVisa definitely says she has "Settled Status".
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,575
    edited 9:13AM
    Clearly a majority of voters oppose the US action in Iran and the overwhelming majority of Labour, LD and Green voters oppose it.

    Farage is unlikely to see his party damaged in the polls though as a majority of Reform voters, 57%, still back the US strikes on Iran Trump launched. Kemi though has to be more careful and tone down some of her demands for active RAF participation in the strikes as Tory voters are split. 43% of Conservative voters in favour of the US strikes but also 43% of Conservative voters against the strikes
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,974
    isam said:


    The insanity of politicians telling us that diversity is our strength, and warning of people using the problems in the Middle East to stir up trouble by dividing Muslims and Jews is gaslighting of the highest order. The fact we have imported so many people who feel deeply about what is happening in the Middle East and subcontinent is the cause of the divide. Most English people don’t care


    I posted this last night, and @foxy replied saying the polling on our involvement in war proves me wrong. I disagree, he misses my point. It’s not military intervention that people don’t care about, it’s the Middle East. If we drew a big line around that part of the world, and the subcontinent, and never mentioned them again, most people wouldn’t care less. It’s due to mass immigration that there are so many with passionate views on the problem that lead to division, so it’s an imported problem that we didn’t need. Most normal English people are happy to let the mad mullahs do what they like as long as they don’t do it here and we are not involved

    Diversity is not our strength, it is our Achilles heel

    The mad Mullahs were just doing what they liked and most people here weren't that bothered until the Israelis and Americans started lobbing bombs at them and we got dragged into it. Now there's a war going on it is Reform voters who are massively out of line with the median opinion, not the wokerati or minorities. As for the middle east more broadly, plenty of people of all backgrounds are exercised by it, as is only right when tens of thousands of people are being killed while the West wrings its hands. Diversity has sweet FA to do with it.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,514

    Roger said:



    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
    LOL
    That's the way it works. The public follow those who share their view. It's the basis of how you sell things. Those who think it works the other way round are wrong!
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,099
    The situation this morning seems to be that Donald Trump has partially calmed the oil market with vague statements about the war being a short one but Hormuz is still closed, Iran is still lobbing drones at its neighbours, and Israel is bombing Lebanon as it always does.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,347
    Foxy said:

    Roger said:



    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
    Badenoch is the Verucca Salt of Parliament. Her biggest problem is that generally the LOTO during an unpopular government is seen as PM in waiting. Badenoch's problem is that she is irrelevant.
    Violet Beuregarde
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,575
    edited 9:17AM
    Roger said:
    The same amount of opposition in the US to the strikes as the UK, 59%, on that poll but more clearly in favour, 41%, Republicans Trump will be pleased to see still strongly in favour, 77% of GOP voters back the strikes still even if most Democrats and Independents are opposed.

    Although 'MAGA Republicans are 30 points more likely than non-MAGA Republicans to say they strongly approve of the decision to take military action'. So a similar divide as here with more 'MAGA' rightwing Reform voters more in favour of the strikes than traditional conservative Tories
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,099
    eek said:

    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    To be honest it’s done a really good job of hiding those Trump child sex abuse stories. Carefully released last Monday and no one noticed them
    Not called Operation Epstein Fury for nothing.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,741
    dixiedean said:

    eek said:

    This Labour government is the worst ever, imagine a world without solicitors.

    Law Society chief: Lammy risks triggering collapse of high street firms

    Justice Secretary warned that ‘once the solicitors have left town, they won’t go back’


    David Lammy’s planned £100m tax raid on the legal industry risks forcing swathes of high street solicitors out of business, the head of the Law Society has warned.

    Mark Evans, the new president of the Law Society, which represents more than 200,000 solicitors, said that the Justice Secretary’s proposals to start taxing interest payments earned on money in client accounts threatened to prove the final nail in the coffin for local law firms.

    He said they risked having a permanent effect on Britain’s high streets at a time when many town and city centres are already grappling with rising vacancy rates.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/10/lammy-risks-triggering-collapse-of-high-street/

    So to be blunt the only money keeping high street solicitors going is the interest on their client accounts that probably should be being paid to their clients

    Yes, the alternative is to increase billing rates.
    Or pay cuts.
    A lot of solicitors are on the breadline/not particularly well paid.

    Not all lawyers can spend £2,000 on a pair of loafers or trainers or get the a new iPhone every year.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,849

    Roger said:



    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
    LOL
    The Greens would be a disaster

    https://x.com/cutmytaxuk/status/2030967737116459060?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,849
    FF43 said:

    The situation this morning seems to be that Donald Trump has partially calmed the oil market with vague statements about the war being a short one but Hormuz is still closed, Iran is still lobbing drones at its neighbours, and Israel is bombing Lebanon as it always does.

    Hormuz isn’t closed. Some ships still transit it. Transponders off !!
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,635
    isam said:


    The insanity of politicians telling us that diversity is our strength, and warning of people using the problems in the Middle East to stir up trouble by dividing Muslims and Jews is gaslighting of the highest order. The fact we have imported so many people who feel deeply about what is happening in the Middle East and subcontinent is the cause of the divide. Most English people don’t care


    I posted this last night, and @foxy replied saying the polling on our involvement in war proves me wrong. I disagree, he misses my point. It’s not military intervention that people don’t care about, it’s the Middle East. If we drew a big line around that part of the world, and the subcontinent, and never mentioned them again, most people wouldn’t care less. It’s due to mass immigration that there are so many with passionate views on the problem that lead to division, so it’s an imported problem that we didn’t need. Most normal English people are happy to let the mad mullahs do what they like as long as they don’t do it here and we are not involved

    Diversity is not our strength, it is our Achilles heel

    Time to clean up the gene pool then? And who decides?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,007
    Taz said:

    Roger said:



    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    What you don't get is that nobody cares what she thinks. She's a warmonger. End of interest. Compare with Zack who is actually saying what the public are thinking.
    LOL
    The Greens would be a disaster

    https://x.com/cutmytaxuk/status/2030967737116459060?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ
    ""The Green party would over­see a vast increase in tax­a­tion & pub­lic spend­ing," notes the FT in an analysis of the Greens' barmy policy agenda.

    "The party’s mani­festo pledges would increase taxes by over £170bn per year, includ­ing a £90bn car­bon tax per year, to fund a £160bn boost to day-to-day pub­lic spend­ing on things like the NHS." There would be wealth taxes on assets over £10m, doubling of CGT & NI levied on investment income. People wouldn't stick around in the UK.

    There would also be a huge increase in welfare spending from an unlimited expansion in immigration. The FT quotes even the leftist IPPR think-tank as saying that Green policies would “rad­ic­ally increase migra­tion to Bri­tain”, & that “there would basic­ally be no restric­tions at all”. Another leftist outfit, the IFS, says borrowing would have to increase by £80bn.."

    Not massively appealing.
    But this who believe they have no stake in society might think 'why not ?'.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,849

    isam said:


    The insanity of politicians telling us that diversity is our strength, and warning of people using the problems in the Middle East to stir up trouble by dividing Muslims and Jews is gaslighting of the highest order. The fact we have imported so many people who feel deeply about what is happening in the Middle East and subcontinent is the cause of the divide. Most English people don’t care


    I posted this last night, and @foxy replied saying the polling on our involvement in war proves me wrong. I disagree, he misses my point. It’s not military intervention that people don’t care about, it’s the Middle East. If we drew a big line around that part of the world, and the subcontinent, and never mentioned them again, most people wouldn’t care less. It’s due to mass immigration that there are so many with passionate views on the problem that lead to division, so it’s an imported problem that we didn’t need. Most normal English people are happy to let the mad mullahs do what they like as long as they don’t do it here and we are not involved

    Diversity is not our strength, it is our Achilles heel

    The mad Mullahs were just doing what they liked and most people here weren't that bothered until the Israelis and Americans started lobbing bombs at them and we got dragged into it. Now there's a war going on it is Reform voters who are massively out of line with the median opinion, not the wokerati or minorities. As for the middle east more broadly, plenty of people of all backgrounds are exercised by it, as is only right when tens of thousands of people are being killed while the West wrings its hands. Diversity has sweet FA to do with it.
    The term ‘mullahs’ is islamophobic here we were told yesterday 👍
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,575
    edited 9:23AM
    Battlebus said:

    Good morning

    Opinion will ebb and flow as will the crisis

    I do think labour have problems on the left

    Despite the anti Kemi sentiment on here I have yet to see any evidence it has affected her ratings, the conservatives are a different question

    There is little anti-Kemi sentiment on here as far as I am aware, Big G. Her personal stock remains solid. She may have misjudged this one, but she's a LOTO and can get away with that as long as she retains personal credibility, which does not look to me to be in danger.

    Her problem remains her Party, as it was for her predecessor, and a few more before him.
    Didn't the Party vote her in? And if the Party is the problem what does that say about the people they vote it - May, Truss, Rishi, Boris and now Kemi?
    The members voted her in but only 35% of Tory MPs voted for Kemi in the final round. In that sense she has the same problem Truss and IDS had, even though the members voted for them less than 40% of Tory MPs voted for them and Truss and IDS were removed by Tory MPs as leaders (at least Truss would have been had she not resigned) before they could lead the party into a general election. So Kemi is still at risk of being removed by VONC by her own MPs if the party's polling and election results do not improve.

    May won most seats at a general election and Boris won a landslide majority from UK voters so it was not just the party that voted for them but the largest percentage of UK voters too
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,796
    ydoethur said:

    With the Afghan war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With the Iraq war, it was well planned and long prepared.

    It was a fucking disaster.

    With this one, it's been done on the spur of the moment because Netanyahu's popularity was tanking and Trump urgently needed a distraction from the Epstein files and the references to forcing a 13-year-old girl to perform oral sex on him. It has not been planned, and it has not been prepared.

    It has been a much bigger fucking disaster, and we're only a week in.

    The amazing thing is that anyone supports it. It just shows how little attention most people pay to the news.

    With the Iraq war, the war itself was planned, long prepared and highly successful.

    The failure was to plan for “what’s next” and that’s what triggered the problem
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,099
    Taz said:

    FF43 said:

    The situation this morning seems to be that Donald Trump has partially calmed the oil market with vague statements about the war being a short one but Hormuz is still closed, Iran is still lobbing drones at its neighbours, and Israel is bombing Lebanon as it always does.

    Hormuz isn’t closed. Some ships still transit it. Transponders off !!
    OK, wording change. Hormuz is effectively closed. Not enough goods going through to make a material difference.
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