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Why Ayatollah Khamenei should follow the betting markets (if he's still alive)– politicalbetting.com

America’s adversaries are always searching for an edge—advance warning of a military strike, a window into classified decision-making, a tool to sow panic in financial markets. They may have found all three in the same place: prediction markets.

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  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,595
    First, first, glorious first! (It'll probably not be)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,359
    Not First!
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 4,109
    Too late to be first, much like Bibi to this podium.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,871
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,566
    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,109

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    Saturday school?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,652

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Wanna bet?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,566

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    Saturday school?
    Because Friday is the sabbath for Muslims in plenty of countries the schools are closed on Friday and Saturday is the catchup day.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,862

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    https://x.com/ChayasClan/status/2027742261480452476

    A failed missile launch in Iran caused the projectile to fall on a school. Images captured the moment it failed, fell back to ground, and struck.

    The Iranians - just like the Palestinians in Gaza at the beginning of the war - immediately claimed it was a missile fired by the United States or Israel.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,359
    Scott_xP said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Wanna bet?
    Man, I tell you the Persians in Los Angeles who've been paying $3,000 a ticket to watch Iran v New Zealand are going be pissed.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,085

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    Saturday school?
    Apparently the school week is Saturday to Thursday in Iran .
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,871

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    https://x.com/ChayasClan/status/2027742261480452476

    A failed missile launch in Iran caused the projectile to fall on a school. Images captured the moment it failed, fell back to ground, and struck.

    The Iranians - just like the Palestinians in Gaza at the beginning of the war - immediately claimed it was a missile fired by the United States or Israel.
    Who knows the truth of the situation? Still, that's 80 dead kids who were alive before Trump started his latest Epstein distraction operation.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,871

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 957

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    https://x.com/ChayasClan/status/2027742261480452476

    A failed missile launch in Iran caused the projectile to fall on a school. Images captured the moment it failed, fell back to ground, and struck.

    The Iranians - just like the Palestinians in Gaza at the beginning of the war - immediately claimed it was a missile fired by the United States or Israel.
    Who knows the truth of the situation? Still, that's 80 dead kids who were alive before Trump started his latest Epstein distraction operation.
    X ceased to become a reliable source for anything the day Musk purchased it
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,595
    AnneJGP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I will be migrating the PB Server today. I am hoping this will be entirely seamless, and you won't notice a thing. But it's entirely possible I mess up at some point along the way.

    Here's hoping.
    Always advisable to pick a quiet time for upgrades & so on.
    Understandable that he may want the option of bigger fonts though.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    Brixian59 said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    https://x.com/ChayasClan/status/2027742261480452476

    A failed missile launch in Iran caused the projectile to fall on a school. Images captured the moment it failed, fell back to ground, and struck.

    The Iranians - just like the Palestinians in Gaza at the beginning of the war - immediately claimed it was a missile fired by the United States or Israel.
    Who knows the truth of the situation? Still, that's 80 dead kids who were alive before Trump started his latest Epstein distraction operation.
    X ceased to become a reliable source for anything the day Musk purchased it
    So it was fine when owned and run by left-sympathetic owners?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,871

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    This is why responsible leaders treat war as a last resort.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,510

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    well the first casualties of war are always children
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 957

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    Saturday school?
    Because Friday is the sabbath for Muslims in plenty of countries the schools are closed on Friday and Saturday is the catchup day.
    My first year at Grammar School was the first year Saturday morning lessons weren't part of the core curriculum 1971. Very much in the UK.

    I understand a lot of Rural Market Towns did similar to make up time and allow all the family to attend market.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,109

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    https://x.com/ChayasClan/status/2027742261480452476

    A failed missile launch in Iran caused the projectile to fall on a school. Images captured the moment it failed, fell back to ground, and struck.

    The Iranians - just like the Palestinians in Gaza at the beginning of the war - immediately claimed it was a missile fired by the United States or Israel.
    Who knows the truth of the situation? Still, that's 80 dead kids who were alive before Trump started his latest Epstein distraction operation.
    And there are 50,000+ dead Palestinians who might have been alive if Hamas hadn't started its damn fool idealistic Crusade Jihad against Israel on 7/10/23.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 957
    Scott_xP said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Wanna bet?
    Trump will decree Israel replace them.

    Cue mass withdrawals

    US v Israel Fnal
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    This is why responsible leaders treat war as a last resort.
    Have you not seen what the regime has done?

    We are at that last resort.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,862
    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    edited 6:55PM

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    This is why responsible leaders treat war as a last resort.
    Or alternatively the Iranian regime murders circa 30k of its own citizens (of all ages) 3 weeks following the protests, and we worry about sub-100 when trying to destroy the regime that murders 30k

    Back to the Eddie Izzard comment. We’re fine with regimes killing THEIR OWN people. When we try and help and ACCIDENTALLY kill a small number (relatively) of people then somehow we’re the bad guys? Come on.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,594
    FPT Travel news

    My sister who was at Heathrow waiting to fly to India this morning has had her whole holiday cancelled as they can’t provide a new date. She understands why but she doesn’t know what to do about the cocktail of drugs she had to take before flying to India.

    I suggested she goes home, puts the heating onto max and have a curry to see what happens.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,652
    @newseye.bsky.social‬

    Someone filmed the Iranian suicide drone attack from INSIDE the Bahrain hotel.

    Extraordinary footage.

    https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3mfwvkidqw22e
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,594

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Who else is in their group so I don’t book a holiday to somewhere the US will invade next.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,566
    Battlebus said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Who else is in their group so I don’t book a holiday to somewhere the US will invade next.
    Belgium, Egypt, and New Zealand.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187
    There's a lot of "we" getting typed when it means "I the crazy right-wing tunnel-visioned warmongerer".

    Can we work on this please?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 957

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Kemi

    I'm sure everyone would rather want to know why you want to fully support the US and zisrael and take the UK to war?

    More important than silly political games.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,652
    @JavierBlas

    Multiple oil companies / traders have asked their tankers to wait on either side of the Strait of Hormuz for now. Everyone is watching on whether the Iranian navy and/or IRGC move to lay mines, and on whether the US made good on its promise to neutralize the Iranian navy.

    https://x.com/JavierBlas/status/2027764136159990045?s=20
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,109

    Battlebus said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Who else is in their group so I don’t book a holiday to somewhere the US will invade next.
    Belgium, Egypt, and New Zealand.
    The Belgians have always been a bit dodgy.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    edited 7:07PM
    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    If defeating Hitler would have resulted in 100 deaths of children would you say yes or no?

    And lot more children died than that to defeat Hitler.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,595
    I can't entirely condemn Trump for his actions in Iran, but I certainly don't support them. I rather wonder quite what I'll make of his (lets hope) grand victory, and what also would I make of his humiliating defeat. I can only conclude that Trump exists in a sort of Schrodinger bubble.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 957
    Brixian59 said:

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Kemi

    I'm sure everyone would rather want to know why you want to fully support the US and zisrael and take the UK to war?

    More important than silly political games.
    The woman who prostitutes her position for £50000 to have lunch with a Russian donor has the brass neck to publish this.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
    I don’t believe that figure so it’s meaningless.

    Seems it’s pulled out of a leftwing blogs arse.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,510

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
    I don’t believe that figure so it’s meaningless.

    Seems it’s pulled out of a leftwing blogs arse.
    what's your acceptable level of suffering? share your spreadsheet with the class
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,665

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    This is why responsible leaders treat war as a last resort.
    Have you not seen what the regime has done?

    We are at that last resort.
    The regime are vile and they need to be deposed. Turning Tehran into Gaza sort of defeats the objective.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,850
    I’m just amused that TSE thinks they are only inadvertently tipping them off through betting markets. One cabinet minister is cheerfully tipping the Russians off for probably very modest bribes.
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  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662
    Brixian59 said:

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Kemi

    I'm sure everyone would rather want to know why you want to fully support the US and zisrael and take the UK to war?

    More important than silly political games.
    Perhaps for the same very sound reasons that Carney and Albanese do.

    But you don't care about that, because you want to be against "the Zionists".
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,177
    Whilst distracted by the by election {down the news narrative today} shrapnel from Epstein files seems to be working closer to Trump, like bit of a Morgul Blade working closer to Frodo’s heart.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3elr1dwpo
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    Tres said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
    I don’t believe that figure so it’s meaningless.

    Seems it’s pulled out of a leftwing blogs arse.
    what's your acceptable level of suffering? share your spreadsheet with the class
    What’s your acceptable level of suffering in Iran?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
    Cute whatabouterism.

    Gaza was a just war, triggered by Hamas. People die in war. That is all on Hamas.

    Iran slaughtered civilians.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,780

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
    I don’t believe that figure so it’s meaningless.

    Seems it’s pulled out of a leftwing blogs arse.
    The Times of Israel a left wing blog? Well I never.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-believes-70000-gazans-killed-in-war-as-claimed-by-hamas/amp/
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,500
    Growing confidence from Israel and pro Israel sources on Twitter they got Khameini,
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,632
    Brixian59 said:

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Kemi

    I'm sure everyone would rather want to know why you want to fully support the US and zisrael and take the UK to war?

    More important than silly political games.
    Jesus's. What kind of shite have you been playing in here.. silly political.vindictve games.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,652
    @paulbrand.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu says there are “growing signs” that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “gone”.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,665
    edited 7:17PM

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Even if her assertion is true, putting such a post out on a day like today at the very best demonstrates her naivety.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,652
    Meanwhile, at least one Iranian ship on fire

    https://bsky.app/profile/vcdgf555.bsky.social/post/3mfwwj6hr7c25
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,632

    Battlebus said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Who else is in their group so I don’t book a holiday to somewhere the US will invade next.
    Belgium, Egypt, and New Zealand.
    The Belgians have always been a bit dodgy.
    Especially their drivers.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,850

    Battlebus said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Who else is in their group so I don’t book a holiday to somewhere the US will invade next.
    Belgium, Egypt, and New Zealand.
    The Belgians have always been a bit dodgy.
    Especially their drivers.
    Verstappen is Dutch.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,359
    Tres said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    well the first casualties of war are always children
    The first casualty of war is truth.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,177

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    This is why responsible leaders treat war as a last resort.
    Have you not seen what the regime has done?

    We are at that last resort.
    Can you convince me this can be called a “regime change operation” with no commitment to boots and tracks on the ground? I’m currently not convinced we can call this a serious attempt at regime change, that’s some fake promise wrapping around a very aimless mission statement shared so far, isn’t it?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,109
    rcs1000 said:

    Tres said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    well the first casualties of war are always children
    The first casualty of war is truth.
    The first casualty of war is peace.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,850
    rcs1000 said:

    Tres said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    well the first casualties of war are always children
    The first casualty of war is truth.
    Not a problem here though. Truth is not likely to be involved in any war involving the Ayatollahs, Trump and Netanyahu.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,105

    Battlebus said:

    Fun fact.

    The men's Iranian football team are going to be playing matches in America in just over three months.

    Who else is in their group so I don’t book a holiday to somewhere the US will invade next.
    Belgium, Egypt, and New Zealand.
    FFS. You had to say that.

    Belgium is fine, but invasion and regime change in New Zealand will upset plans….
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    If defeating Hitler would have resulted in 100 deaths of children would you say yes or no?

    And lot more children died than that to defeat Hitler.
    If we cast the Mullahs as the Nazis and Trump/Netanyahu as Roosevelt/Churchill then of course that puts a whole new light on it.

    Are you nuts btw?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,862
    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2027822285751500990

    EXCL w/ @ShipleyWrites

    Ann Limb, one of Starmer's new peers, will not take her seat in the Lords for now after a Sunday Times investigation.

    We recently revealed she lied about having PhD - and today report she sold charity assets leading two staff to bank secret £1m+ bonuses.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,105

    Brixian59 said:

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Kemi

    I'm sure everyone would rather want to know why you want to fully support the US and zisrael and take the UK to war?

    More important than silly political games.
    Jesus's. What kind of shite have you been playing in here.. silly political.vindictve games.
    Shiite?

    I do rather like zisrael, though.

    Watching posters (d)evolve is interesting.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187
    Scott_xP said:

    @paulbrand.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu says there are “growing signs” that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “gone”.

    86. Not a bad innings.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 4,109
    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paulbrand.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu says there are “growing signs” that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “gone”.

    86. Not a bad innings.
    Gone?

    Blasted to bits gone, or leaving on a jet plane bound for Moscow gone?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    If defeating Hitler would have resulted in 100 deaths of children would you say yes or no?

    And lot more children died than that to defeat Hitler.
    If we cast the Mullahs as the Nazis and Trump/Netanyahu as Roosevelt/Churchill then of course that puts a whole new light on it.

    Are you nuts btw?
    What if we cast the Mullahs as the Nazis, Trump or Bibi as Stalin? Imperfect metaphor of course.

    Should we set aside our differences and support the fight against the greater evil? As Carney and Albanese, no fans of Trump, have both done.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,811
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    If defeating Hitler would have resulted in 100 deaths of children would you say yes or no?

    And lot more children died than that to defeat Hitler.
    If we cast the Mullahs as the Nazis and Trump/Netanyahu as Roosevelt/Churchill then of course that puts a whole new light on it.

    Are you nuts btw?
    The mullahs are Nazis. What part of their ideology are you missing?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,780
    I gather international law is one of the things that the PB Thatcher cargo cultists think can be discarded.

    Peter Oborne
    @OborneTweets
    ·
    7h
    When Israel attacked an Iraqi nuclear reactor ("Operation Babylon") Maggie Thatcher charged Israel with a "grave breach of international law." She added: "I uphold international law. Once we go away from that, we shall not know where we are." Here Badenoch endorsing war crime.

    https://x.com/OborneTweets/status/2027709668483531029?s=20
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,850
    edited 7:32PM

    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paulbrand.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu says there are “growing signs” that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “gone”.

    86. Not a bad innings.
    Gone?

    Blasted to bits gone, or leaving on a jet plane bound for Moscow gone?
    So kiss me and smile for me
    Tell me that you’ll wait for me
    Hold me like you’ll never let me go…
  • isamisam Posts: 43,762
    Brixian59 said:

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2027818999220777314

    Keir Starmer has used the conflict in the Middle East to sneak out yet another ministerial resignation. Another time he’s lacked the backbone to sack a minister who was obviously in the wrong.

    Simons was in charge of a group that deliberately smeared journalists, even using a journalist’s Jewish faith to call him into question. Labour hasn’t changed.

    The “think tank” Labour Together has donated or provided support to over 100 Labour MPs, including many of the Cabinet. Their former staff members are in positions of influence across Government, including as civil servants. Simons has resigned so it’s clear Labour Together is utterly finished as an organisation. Keir Starmer must tell us immediately if he will now end Labour Together’s links with his government and return the tainted money they’ve donated.

    Kemi

    I'm sure everyone would rather want to know why you want to fully support the US and zisrael and take the UK to war?

    More important than silly political games.
    "Silly political games" - First criticism of Sir Keir at the 927th time of asking.
  • YokesYokes Posts: 1,464
    Clearly the increasing confidence at Matcal Towers in Tel Aviv that i posted about in the previous thread has reached the Israeli PM. The line of thinking stems from the belief that one of three meetings struck thus morning had Khamenei at it.

    The tricky bit is that the Supreme Leader goes comms off when he goes into hiding so this may be hard to verify. if they've caught him here, comms on, he clearly wasn't expecting a daylight attack.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,109

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2027822285751500990

    EXCL w/ @ShipleyWrites

    Ann Limb, one of Starmer's new peers, will not take her seat in the Lords for now after a Sunday Times investigation.

    We recently revealed she lied about having PhD - and today report she sold charity assets leading two staff to bank secret £1m+ bonuses.

    Your joking....not another one....
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,614

    I gather international law is one of the things that the PB Thatcher cargo cultists think can be discarded.

    Peter Oborne
    @OborneTweets
    ·
    7h
    When Israel attacked an Iraqi nuclear reactor ("Operation Babylon") Maggie Thatcher charged Israel with a "grave breach of international law." She added: "I uphold international law. Once we go away from that, we shall not know where we are." Here Badenoch endorsing war crime.

    https://x.com/OborneTweets/status/2027709668483531029?s=20

    And, what was the outcome?
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,500
    The Iran conflict is on hold until Monday

    ‘ Following the ongoing situation in Iran, I am convening a special Security College on Monday.

    For regional security and stability, it is of the utmost importance that there is no further escalation through Iran’s unjustified attacks on partners in the region.’


    https://x.com/vonderleyen/status/2027756878575362119?s=61
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,652
    @mark_dow
    Timeline:

    2014: Trump says Obama will invade Iran because he's not a good enough negotiator to get a deal with them

    2015: Obama, with the backing of the EU, China, Russia and others, gets a deal with them

    2018: Trump cancels deal bc it was Obama's and says he can negotiate a better one.

    2018-2020: Trump can't negotiate one. Arms control experts and Trump officials start to grumble that scrapping Obama's deal was probably a bad idea.

    2025: Trump still can't negotiate a new deal

    2025: Israel launches an attack on Iran. Drags Trump in. Trump claims Iran's nuclear capacity was wiped out

    2025-2026: Trump still can't negotiate a deal

    2026: Trump launches a regime change war on Iran, at Israel's goading
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,491
    Given how well trailed the Iran attack has been for yonks now, I'm vaguely disappointed Khamenei apparently hasn't done some sort of Hari Seldon "Foundation" psychohistory thing of recording himself saying all sorts of messages to be played out in the event he wasn't around any more to film them properly and popping up at all sorts of moments to say something generic and look like there's still some sort of plan.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,304
    edited 7:39PM
    Minister Josh Simons resigns after Labour Together claims
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6q0l9e7plo

    The worst part for Simons is the BBC assumes no-one has heard of him, so shoves ‘Minister’ into the headline.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    Sorry to ask (and you don't have to answer) but I feel I ought to. Where in life did you pick up this sarky indifference to the prospect of the violent death of children?
    When I knew that violent regimes such as the one you’re defending (or at least saying we should leave alone) kill children with impunity anyway. And they do. And we conveniently ignore that fact.

    But when someone actually DOES SOMETHING that may end that, the ones wanting to end it are cast as greater villains than the ones they’re trying to stop. This is only logical in left wing politics and world view - where hatred of the West (which has allowed their opinions on the first place) is the primary and only concern.
    Yet when I mentioned Gaza, where tens of thousands of children were killed, you appeared not to give a flying fuck.

    So it's all just bullshit, isn't it.
    I don’t believe that figure so it’s meaningless.

    Seems it’s pulled out of a leftwing blogs arse.
    That's a very odd comment. I don't know what to say. We'd best leave it.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,774
    Omnium said:

    I can't entirely condemn Trump for his actions in Iran, but I certainly don't support them. I rather wonder quite what I'll make of his (lets hope) grand victory, and what also would I make of his humiliating defeat. I can only conclude that Trump exists in a sort of Schrodinger bubble.

    Trump doesn't appear to be at all bothered by essentially the same people running Venezuela. Capturing Maduro and getting US hands on their oil seems to be a victory in his book, the lives of the people that live in the country do not matter at all to Trump.

    I think Trump would call his war in Iran a victory if the regime is toppled, even if it led to a civil war where many innocents die. I do not for a momement believe that Donald Trump is bothered what happens to ordinary Iranian citizens.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,850
    Scott_xP said:

    @mark_dow
    Timeline:

    2014: Trump says Obama will invade Iran because he's not a good enough negotiator to get a deal with them

    2015: Obama, with the backing of the EU, China, Russia and others, gets a deal with them

    2018: Trump cancels deal bc it was Obama's and says he can negotiate a better one.

    2018-2020: Trump can't negotiate one. Arms control experts and Trump officials start to grumble that scrapping Obama's deal was probably a bad idea.

    2025: Trump still can't negotiate a new deal

    2025: Israel launches an attack on Iran. Drags Trump in. Trump claims Iran's nuclear capacity was wiped out

    2025-2026: Trump still can't negotiate a deal

    2026: Trump launches a regime change war on Iran, at Israel's goading

    The Art of No Deal?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,862
    edited 7:45PM
    Habemus corpus

    https://x.com/israelradar_com/status/2027828650242953572

    ISRAEL SAYS KHAMENEI'S BODY WAS FOUND (N12 News)
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662
    glw said:

    Omnium said:

    I can't entirely condemn Trump for his actions in Iran, but I certainly don't support them. I rather wonder quite what I'll make of his (lets hope) grand victory, and what also would I make of his humiliating defeat. I can only conclude that Trump exists in a sort of Schrodinger bubble.

    Trump doesn't appear to be at all bothered by essentially the same people running Venezuela. Capturing Maduro and getting US hands on their oil seems to be a victory in his book, the lives of the people that live in the country do not matter at all to Trump.

    I think Trump would call his war in Iran a victory if the regime is toppled, even if it led to a civil war where many innocents die. I do not for a momement believe that Donald Trump is bothered what happens to ordinary Iranian citizens.
    It would be a victory if the regime is toppled, even if it leads to a civil war where mant innocents die.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,187

    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @paulbrand.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu says there are “growing signs” that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “gone”.

    86. Not a bad innings.
    Gone?

    Blasted to bits gone, or leaving on a jet plane bound for Moscow gone?
    Died like a dawg ... I imagine we'll hear from Trump later in his USA cap.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 4,109
    TousiTV claiming he's definitely dead and so is his son.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,665
    Taz said:

    The Iran conflict is on hold until Monday

    ‘ Following the ongoing situation in Iran, I am convening a special Security College on Monday.

    For regional security and stability, it is of the utmost importance that there is no further escalation through Iran’s unjustified attacks on partners in the region.’


    https://x.com/vonderleyen/status/2027756878575362119?s=61

    On the same page as Starmer. 9.00 Monday dovetails with Starmer's weekend itinerary. I hope they've synchronised their watches to Central European time.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,798
    edited 7:47PM
    The problem for the regime is that there is no clear successor to Khamenei.

    I think if he’s gone, the regime goes with him.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662
    Well damn.

    Maduro and Khameini both within one strike is pretty damn impressive.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,850

    The problem for the regime is that there is no clear successor to Khamenei.

    Not if his son has been offed as well.

    However, that’s not a fatal objection. The clear successor doesn’t always succeed even in a dictatorship - Hitler handed over to Doenitz, Lenin was replaced by Stalin, Stalin by Khrushchev.
  • What the fuck is the deputy leader of the Greens doing at a pro Iran government protest
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,296

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    This is why responsible leaders treat war as a last resort.
    Or alternatively the Iranian regime murders circa 30k of its own citizens (of all ages) 3 weeks following the protests, and we worry about sub-100 when trying to destroy the regime that murders 30k

    Back to the Eddie Izzard comment. We’re fine with regimes killing THEIR OWN people. When we try and help and ACCIDENTALLY kill a small number (relatively) of people then somehow we’re the bad guys? Come on.
    I wonder how many US citizen casualties Trump would accept to prevent being deposed by an internal rebellion?
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 4,109

    What the fuck is the deputy leader of the Greens doing at a pro Iran government protest

    He's an absolute idiot, this isn't new knowledge.
    The Greens are mental these days, not the cuddly tree hugging NIMBYs of the olden days.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,085

    The problem for the regime is that there is no clear successor to Khamenei.

    I think if he’s gone, the regime goes with him.

    There’s plenty of vile individuals ready to take over . It’s a complex process to choose a new leader and won’t happen overnight .
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,662

    The problem for the regime is that there is no clear successor to Khamenei.

    I think if he’s gone, the regime goes with him.

    Oh dear, how sad ...

    ... sorry I can't finish it with a straight face.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,296
    rcs1000 said:

    Tres said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/children-dead-as-missile-hits-elementary-school-in-southern-iran

    The battle for hearts and minds is developing, and not necessarily to the US's advantage.

    A school jam packed with students on a Saturday.
    Yes because they go to school on a Saturday.
    Yeah they do. You’re right.

    But there’s still always a school isn’t there?
    well the first casualties of war are always children
    The first casualty of war is truth.
    It usually takes lies to start a war.
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