Angela Rayner appears to have as much self awareness as Liz Truss – politicalbetting.com
Angela Rayner appears to have as much self awareness as Liz Truss – politicalbetting.com
? EXCLUSIVE: Angela Rayner is already offering Cabinet roles to MPs in exchange for their support, The Telegraph has been told.Read more: https://t.co/LRuDnpoKZn pic.twitter.com/zriwTIdrh4
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Some of them even turn out to be true.
(Oh, and first?)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/11/15/angela-rayner-plots-move-against-keir-starmer/
Then we have the wider problem, that anyone with the self-awareness to succeed at the top in politics will be self-aware enough to not touch the job with a bargepole.
Rayner will be Labours Truss.
More Ratner than Rayner. The Labour brand is in the toilet, she won’t improve it.
It also explains why she’s on maneuvers already - as she needs to do a lot to have a chance of getting to the end.
Got to say if Labour Party members get a say in who becomes PM they are screwed at the next election but that is what Rayner needs for her to win
The issue is whoever you offer them to needs to be on your side and keep schtum.
I'm not the world's biggest fan of Antony Scaramucci, but he can capture the cynicism of US politics quite well:
https://youtu.be/V6-W1fAYVyw?t=777
(UK is different eg we already defenestrated Andrew MW just on the potential stuff that may emerge, when no one in the USA has done much at all on that basis. They think that in say the UK or Australian system a character like Trump would have been out some time ago.)
I agree it feels far too soon having had to resign so recently.
Secretary of StateViceroy of Wales.I wonder what @Foxy , who is one of her advocates, makes of this ?
Yes, there's a lot of dillusionment and anger about "how the country is going" and it's a complex subject where perceptions often differ markedly from other published evidence which is rarely believed or trusted and it's that breaking of "trust" which is probably at the nub of all of this.
Economically, socially and culturally, we are (and have been) through a period of unprecedented upheaval of which the pandemic was not an insignificant element but changes in technology are another part. Traditional economic, social and cultural models have or are breaking down and what may replace them looks strange and uncomfortable and it's little surprise political movements pledging to "put things back" are getting support.
Demographic changes have further undermined the 20th century economic and social model which worked so well, especially after 1945, which brought prosperity, the likes of which we had never seen.
Trying to distil it down a bit, we may have longer lives but we don't feel we have better lives and the material benefits of acquisition (still plugged remorselessly by the advertising industry) and the life just beyond our reach further that sense of dissatisfaction. Aspiration was a term once widely used in political circles with Labour and Conservatives alternately seen as the party of those aspiring to better themselves but that was seen purely in economic terms and I don't think aspiration now is quite the same.
A "better" life isn't just a life with more things and more consumption, it's about less tangible elements such as being comfortable with friends, in communities, out and about and that comfort often stems from a sense of safety, security and familiarity. When everything looks and feels strange and unsettling, the desire is to retreat, to become more insular and that's where it becomes a problem.
There's the old adage of people like people like themselves and it;s the same whether you're a migrant from Eritrea newly arrived or someone who has lived in the same town for 70 years or more.
I'm not sure what the answers are but I think it's wrong for us to look to Government to provide them in entirety - there's more to be gained by people doing this for themselves, being more inclusive, more tolerant and this being empowered by community leaders as much as Government.
But she can't wait that long, if she is deluded enough to want the top job. (Nothing personal, anyone wanting to be PM is deluded.)
The mood to oust Starmer comes from the soft left of the party, as the right is in power and seen to be failing. This is why it won't be Streeting or Mahmood. They are both better presenters than Starmer but it is the same shit sandwich. Neither Labour MPs nor Members want that.
Chris Dillow puts it well here:
"Intelligent question: what, if any, social democratic policies might rejuvenate the economy & defeat the far right? Stupid question: should Streeting replace Starmer? The fact that the political class are discussing one rather than the other is the problem."
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisdillow.bsky.social/post/3m5g7nwo6rc2j
MAGA wants Trump to return to no foreign wars (and maybe his Middle East peace plan will hold) but it means Trump saying no to the GOP neocons who want to bomb Venezuela, Iran and anyone who looks at Bibi a bit funny. MAGA wants cheaper food, and if SCOTUS nixes Trump's tariffs, that could yet happen. MAGA wants the Epstein files, and that might not hole Trump below the waterline because his sleaziness around the fairer sex is already known and has been for decades. MAGA is concerned that ICE is going above and beyond, but they might have to live with that.
The greater problem for the President is tempus fugit. He is visibly falling apart and even if he were not, is rapidly approaching the 2-year lame duck part of his presidency because he is term-limited and so the GOP will be casting around for a successor.
Although I do read ‘This is money’ which has always been separate.
If the BBC don’t want to be sued by people don’t give them any reason to.
May be Telegraph rage bait, but this is happening and some Labour MPs are very keen on this.
‘Caribbean nations are sending an historic delegation to Britain to push the cause for reparations
They will meet with sympathetic Labour MPs amid talk of £18 trillion being owed to former colonies’
https://x.com/craig_simpson_/status/1989419057494249930?s=61
What irritated me about your reply is that it was a nitpick, defending the Mail's support of the pathological liar Trump, and didn't address any of my substantive points.
I'll turn it into a casino and hotel, and the money generated will create jobs and help reduce the deficit, win win.
‘We’ won’t pay him a penny. The BBC will, if they lose.
You don’t have to like Trump to see he is the wronged party here and the BBC have handled it badly and defending the BBC on the basis of my enemies enemy is my friend is just wrong. I’d say the same whoever the BBC had defamed.
Of course part of the problem with the BbC is they get a decent chunk of their money from the license fee so don’t need to compete for it and it gives them an arrogant air.
Lib Dem level numeracy here.
(Sorry if I've ruined anyone's Sunday morning)
I now realise how PBers feel when I use that Farage photo.
Anyone who supports his absurd claim is attacking the BBC on the basis of my enemy's enemy is my friend.
Even if he's an enemy of democracy like Trump.
Ditto the Mail. Which made up an entire quote in order to attack a BBC journalist this week.
Which you haven't even acknowledged.
Which is a pretty clear demonstration that you're not genuinely engaging in the argument, and just point scoring.
For your benefit, I'll repeat it again.
This morning @DailyMail admits that it published a statement it claimed I had made when I have never said anything like it.
https://x.com/bbcnickrobinson/status/1989596716580966578
Thought not 😂
I don’t believe that Trump has ever ridden a horse. Unlike Putin, of course…
I’ll just leave you with that image
Anyway, I must be off. Play nicely, everyone.
Sadly I do have real life to engage me and now I’m retired I don’t need to come here as often as I’m bored at work. So I will miss discussions as they go on. I doubt I’m alone.
Of course my view is sincere and well held. I am engaging in the argument. I am disagreeing with your assertion on the BBC and the license fee. Do we need to read every post and be aware of every discussion here before views are accepted in good faith. 😂
Don't believe everything you read in the Daily Telegraph.
Incidentally congratulations to those who heeded my tip that Miliband was excellent value at 20/1 for next PM, as he's now down to 12/1 you have the opportunity to broaden your portfolio.
Jennifer Arcuri
@Jennifer_Arcuri
The BBC isn’t called the British Brainwashing Company for nothing.
2:38 pm · 15 Nov 2025
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https://x.com/Jennifer_Arcuri/status/1989704601260392601?s=20
Not like you, Roger!
And Good Morning to everyone. Much, much better than yesterday.
We certainly don't seem to care about economics any more than ever, we continually reward anyone who promises us the sky with as rosy a picture of any costs as possible.
It happened to Lord Lundy then,
As happens to so many men:
Towards the age of twenty-six,
They shoved him into politics;
In which profession he commanded
The income that his rank demanded
In turn as Secretary for
India, the Colonies, and War.
But very soon his friends began
To doubt if he were quite the man:
Thus, if a member rose to say
(As members do from day to day),
“Arising out of that reply …!”
Lord Lundy would begin to cry.
A Hint at harmless little jobs
Would shake him with convulsive sobs.
While as for Revelations, these
Would simply bring him to his knees,
And leave him whimpering like a child.
It drove his Colleagues raving wild!
They let him sink from Post to Post,
From fifteen hundred at the most
To eight, and barely six—and then
To be Curator of Big Ben!…
And finally there came a Threat
To oust him from the Cabinet!
The Duke—his aged grand-sire—bore
The shame till he could bear no more.
He rallied his declining powers,
Summoned the youth to Brackley Towers,
And bitterly addressed him thus—
“Sir! you have disappointed us!
We had intended you to be
The next Prime Minister but three:
The stocks were sold; the Press was squared:
The Middle Class was quite prepared.
But as it is!… My language fails!
Go out and govern New South Wales!”
The Aged Patriot groaned and died:
And gracious! how Lord Lundy cried!
Or at least in the minds of those politicians desperately trying but failing to find the common touch.
Disclaimer: never watched an episode of this programme so no real idea what these terms refer to.
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2025/09/19/my-100-1-tip-on-ed-miliband-is-looking-good/
Talking of Telegraph bias an Interesting piece on the 'Prescott Memo' which it says 'falls well short of the standards of impartiality it demands
https://theconversation.com/bbc-bias-the-prescott-memo-falls-well-short-of-the-standards-of-impartiality-it-demands-269576
It is entirely an European concept and the fact the US, the Commonwealth, and most countries worldwide are not members shows how insular it is
My first wife's grandmother used to have a Telegraph subscription for the crossword, so that's two data points to its credit.
My view, FWIW, is that after the convicted felon Donald Trump being re-elected President anything has to be considered possible.
So clearly she is trying to recoup voters lost to Reform and we will see by the local elections if it has worked. If not the Tories may replace her with someone like Cleverly who may try and reform rather than leave the ECHR to try and get Labour and LD tactical votes in seats the Tories hold to try and stop Reform winning the seat
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/voting-intention?crossBreak=conservative
https://electionmaps.uk/polling/vi
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/11/15/gavin-newsom-interview-2028-frontrunner-00652362