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Christening a new party – politicalbetting.com
Which name do Britons like best for the new Corbyn/Sultana party?The People's Party: 23%The Left / The Left Party: 12%The Collective: 5%Your Party: 3%Arise: 3%Don't know: 54%yougov.co.uk/topics/polit…
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https://x.com/dudespostingws/status/1960328814564716858?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
And then they can infight over the backronym as well.
The same on the far right. For all that RefUK is in the lead, the movement is fractured. We had the Big Speech yesterday and the Nigel couldn't help but attack Rupert Lowe. And up pops Ben Habib. Both are out there competing against the fukkers. Both have got the Lord Elon of Ket promoting them. Tommeh Two-Names as well.
It's entirely possible that Reform's groundswell of support ebbs away into splinter groups. As the racist right get emboldened we get demands for ever more hardcore solutions - Lowe wants to deport legal migrants, and we know that Sunil and TSE are on the radar of some of the furthest reaches of these "patriots"
If - and it is an IF - the far far right does fracture into Reform's vote, the beneficiaries will be the Tories and Labour. DYOR...
Have we done the yougov poll?
NEW: Weekly YouGov voting intention poll for The Times/Sky News
Labour hits a new post-election low for YouGov
RFM 28% (=)
LAB 20% (-1)
CON 17% (-1)
LDEM 16% (+1)
GRN 11% (+1)
‘The People’s Party’ sounds too Blairite; ‘The People’s Princess’ & ‘The People’s Vote’ were the kind of Blair/Campbell/Starmer propaganda that I’d like to think Jezza would have nothing to do with
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/27/trumps-tariffs-trade-war
... the Brics economies are now home to roughly 4.5 billion people – over 55% of the global population. The Brics grouping also accounts for an estimated 37.3% of global gross domestic product based on purchasing power parity.
The key question is whether tariffs and political demands that accompany them will force a change to the bloc’s character – until now an ideologically incoherent group containing countries deeply hostile to America such as China and countries traditionally friendly to the US such as India and Brazil.
Lula’s thinking seems to be evolving, finding himself riding a domestic wave of popular nationalism, fuelled by anger at Trump’s multiple interferences.
Until recently, Lula had been hoping Brazil’s special brand of multi-alignment could fly under Trump’s radar, said Oliver Stuenkel, associate professor at the school of international relations in São Paulo. Moreover, Lula for all his leftwing politics had been reluctant to allow China to turn Brics into an explicitly anti-western alliance, opposing the group’s expansion to include countries such as Iran.
But faced by Trump’s demands, Lula is having to recalibrate. “It has made Brazil more convinced of the need to diversify, to have Brics. It reinforces the need to find new friends and to have as many friends as possible,” Stuenkel said.
“Politically, diplomatically, I think the Chinese are big winners of these tariffs,” said Matias Spektor, professor of politics and international relations at Fundação Getulio Vargas in Brazil.
Lula has also taken up the cause of bypassing the dollar, a longstanding goal of China that in practice has achieved little in the past two decades. “Brazil cannot depend on the dollar and the Brics group needed to test whether it can have a currency for trade,” he said earlier this month.
“I am not obliged to purchase dollars to trade with countries like Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile, Sweden, the European Union, or China. We can use our own currencies. Why should I be tied to the dollar, a currency I do not control? It’s the United States that prints dollars,” Lula said...
https://x.com/labourlist/status/1960352223747031232?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
Remember - this has been a social media storm in a teacup. The UK is not up in arms about the forrin, demanding a general election and a sainthood both for Connoley and that nice girl with the axe. Flags are a tiny minority sport. But the undercurrent of flames have been fanned on social media towards Farage.
If the fanning now changes direction towards a Powellite Send The Darkies Home position then we will test how shallow that Reform lead is.
I'd have predicted that the longstanding historical rivalry between China and India would make that almost impossible. Now I'm not so sure.
This is a notable statistic I wouldn't have predicted, either (if it's true).
..UBS BB analysts reckon it is even possible that three-quarters of Brazilian exports to the US could be redirected, an estimate that suggests the potential hit to economic growth will only be a maximum 0.6%...
It will be interesting to see if the Farage migration proposal affects the Reform polling. Perhaps voters will recoil from the ugly speech - deportation is not a nice word (even if all governments do it and boast about it)
Or maybe he will gain more support as people see a vigorous leader talking plainly at last. Etc
Quite an important moment in this Parliament
They have utterly destroyed themselves over the last few weeks. And as the FukU/Advance//Lowe/Tommeh civil war gears up will the Tories be piloted even further to the lunatic fringe and lose even more support?
I think the Green vote will get a hammering.
However this is yougov. Probably the gold standard?
The hard left of the Labour vote is using the Greens as Spare Labour.
My point is that the big push this summer has been to make racism acceptable, and now we have multiple competing platforms arguing for more and more deportations.
Clearly the Farage platform has primacy at the moment. But if Elon starts ramping Habib and Low and Tommeh - and he is - then where does the mob opinion swing and what happens to the vote? Farage the traitor, refusing to listen to good honest British people who want to send TSE home for his crime against shoes.
That's already something being shouted on X (not about TSE specifically...) and if Lord Ket carries on ramping then who knows where we go. The problem with political absolutism is that its never absolute enough. Which is why the far right and far left always fracture and fragment. I did wonder if Farage could pull it off this time. He still could, but if it fractures we saw all the signs of it yesterday.
It does for now, but the economy is about to become a huge issue with Reeves autumn startment and bonds yields rising, and one for our @Roger, Eric Lombard, France's finance minister waning France may need an IMF bailout
And just as a reminder as Summer holidays are coming to an end, a week today PMQ' are back
https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/we-may-be-headed-towards-an-imf-bailout-warns-french-minister-d2dt5r3fp
Baier: "Who is more responsible for keeping this war going, Russia or Ukraine?"
Special Envoy Steve Witkoff: "These are two tough sides here. You heard the president say he's disappointed in Russia in some respects and he's also disappointed in the Ukrainians in some respects"
https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1960482311700410775
Mr Farage doubled down on 500k-600k per annum deportations.
Is that doable on 5 flights a day, presumably on aircraft up to the size of a Globemaster or a Voyager, bearing in mind security personnel, load factor etc ?
And I don't see how the logistics works.
Also we don't exactly have 500k people arriving by boat so exactly who else is he planning to remove from the country...
And we have India pivoting away from Russia re: oil.
I have no idea at all where it is going.
Good morning, everyone.
So that is around 300 per day as an average.
Obviously voting Fukker is only for fat racist morons with dogs called 'Bronson' or similar but nitpicking over the practicalities of Farage's planned mass Hijrah is pointless. If the government wants to do it, it can.
If only we had some Real World data...
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Stop the boats absolutely, but a US style purge is not acceptable
Weak willed liberals and their unending empathy for criminals and illegal immigrants are more dangerous for this country than the criminals and illegals.
Republican, Progressive, with Marxist economics? What about the Liz Truss Party?
There’s plenty of more broadly “centrist” and liberal content of course, but not explicitly Lib Dem in the way that Green or Reform or Labour stuff exists.
Cathy Newman, "How does this sound to someone from Afghanistan who is facing torture or even death?"
Gawain Towler, member of Reform UK board, "We are not responsible for the whole world's problems.. I don't care about the whole world"
https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1960457847558561937?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
By all means raid businesses suspected of employing illegal immigrants and I have no problem with everyone having a mandatory ID card
Something like:
1. Putinist far left
2. Non-putinist far left
3. Eco left
4. Soft left
5. Centre left
6. Liberal centre
7. Centre right
8. Traditionalist right
9. Non putinist far right
10. Putinist far right
11. Regional Separatist [nation/region]
12. Comedy
13. Single issue party [issue]
Jezza’s party would then have a simple choice to make: 1 or 2.
If you are going to have an affair then have an affair with somebody of questionable immigration status because if you get her pregnant or threatens to tell your wife, report her to Farage’s stormtroopers.
The People's Democratic Socialist Workers' Collective Party of the Left (Marxist-Leninist)
Alternative version of short and snappy: An angry Dachshund
The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung reported that Modi refused to take 4 calls from Trump in recent days. Modi was also annoyed by Trump claiming the credit for the ceasefire between India and Pakistan.
India and China actually have a lot of shared interests, and the US policy of having India as a key part of containing China could possibly be falling apart right now. This isn't great news for the West generally.
https://x.com/dawnbutlerbrent/status/1960392048533463212?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
So as you say, the practicalities are not the problem but the optics of forcing people on a flight and possibly cable tying them to seats to avoid in flight risk etc. oh and also where are they going?
I think you've been watching too much nonsense on the news about the "horrors" of the US deportation programme when the reality is that even now Trump is still behind the deportation rate of Obama.
The traditional version of a worker (male, horny hands, tackety boots, coal dust) is much reduced or even non existent. Perhaps a useful exercise would be to find a definition of who is the modern working class?
The most significant thing is that the GOP loses its supermajority in the state chamber.
Fruit & Nut makes sense, but they could bugger it up by electing different leaders. Being more sensible, given Your Party is the working name, why not Our Party? Seems more inclusive.
Most famous for being assassinated. He maybe had it coming; he was a prolific hunter who recorded 272,511 kills in his diaries
He's a lifestyle and travel vlogger aiui.
https://www.youtube.com/@implausibleblog/videos
Where it does seem provocative is casting title characters; you can’t have a white Mandela or black Henry VIII, although I’d probably be more ok with the latter
BBC series ‘King and Conqueror’ branded ‘woke’ and ‘historically inaccurate’ for featuring black actors playing Anglo-Saxons.
The series portrays the historical Battle of Hastings in 1066 between William, Duke of Normandy and King Harold Godwinson of England.
https://x.com/olilondontv/status/1960333173587370244?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
The other key difference is that the US is ruthless with deportation once illegals have been caught, something the UK seems unable or unwilling to do. Illegals need to be offered a choice, self deport to their home country or forced deportation to a third country. That's the choice being offered in the US and almost all are taking the self deportation offer as they would here.
I think we need to stop giving a flying fuck about what the "international community" thinks about us and start acting in the national interest by deporting illegals and criminals. I really don't think it matters if the UN human rights commission says we're big old meanies for deporting illegals and criminals or if we work outside the internationally agreed framework to do so. If the UN wants to come here with an army to try and enforce their judgements then they are more than welcome to try.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/temporarily-halt-uk-mounjaro-orders-5HjdBTp_2/
Supplies to be resumed after the price has gone up!
Reform are getting a bit cocky. It's a very thin line between "stopping the boats" and "Trumpite dystopia". I guess that's what happens when you exist in a social media bubble, and why Farage is so essential - he has a keen understanding of where that line is.
If that principle becomes "remove everyone who I don't think belongs from the country", then you end up doing anything to achieve that. For example, giving the Taliban money to take people who have fled the Taliban.
If your ultimate principle is something else, then immigration joins everything else in the pile of competing priorities. And whilst polling shows immigration as the top issue, that doesn't mean that the consequences dealing with it on a "no matter what" basis would be acceptable with the public.
But while it's words, the consequences don't matter.
The demand is growing across labour as mps fear for their seats
It's also especially stupid because there's an easy work around, if you think it's vitally important that actors get work: make it animated. Have the actors of whatever colour voice the Anglo-Saxons without pretending the Jutes came from Jamaica. History gets portrayed accurately, and the actors get roles regardless of skin colour.
Much better would be to actually reform the thing to reflect 21st century reality. As one of the main original architects we just need to get on with it.
(I do note that the ECHR has 2:1 support across the electorate, so it would have to be handled carefully).
I have to say, possibly nicer than Wick