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  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,790

    Nigelb said:

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    MattW said:

    MattW said:


    Burnley MP speaks out:


    Oliver Ryan MP
    @OliverRyanUK

    Things are getting serious now.

    It's time for some facts about local Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs) and asylum hotels, to stop the nonsense. Lets have it right - concerns about illegal migration are valid, but people in our area are being targeted & its got to stop.
    🧵 1/2

    https://x.com/OliverRyanUK/status/1958203397963714910

    That vid is worth a listen. A building in Gannow, Burnley, 100m from a primary school was set on fire, after rumours circulated, including being pushed by a Ref UK Councillor (vid included), that it was going to be an HMO. In reality there is no application to be an HMO, and it will be supported social housing.

    Make you r own evaluation.

    To me it smacks of Lee Anderson inventing a non-existent asylum hotel here in 2024; the not-an-asylum-hotel he pointed to was even over the border in Derbyshire.

    We need to work to fix the issue, and have police crack down harshly on those seeking to exploit it for their own gain.
    It's classically what happens with inflammatory local campaigns. Whispers and rumours provoke action by those with no information and particular concerns which turns into obsessions.

    Lots of concerns, some valid, some folk tales, which then land in the wrong place - in this case on a social housing project.
    As the father of mixed race children I found this story chilling.

    Family in fear after Tommy Robinson shares video of black man with white granddaughters

    Exclusive: Olajuwon Ayeni racially abused and falsely labelled a paedophile as far right weaponises clip of family in park


    A family say their lives have been ruined after a video of a black man and his brother playing in the park with his white granddaughters was shared by Tommy Robinson and weaponised by the far right.

    Olajuwon Ayeni, a musician from Redcar, North Yorkshire, has been racially abused and falsely labelled a paedophile in the week since the family video was stolen from the TikTok account of his wife, Natalie, whom he married five years ago, and shared by extremists online.

    On Tuesday, the couple’s local MP, Anna Turley, was forced to write a letter providing a reference of good character for Ayeni when he was suspended by his management after the online disinformation.

    “I’m devastated to receive the email from my management,” Ayeni said. “Music is my life. My social media will be damaged, my career will be tarnished … but I am determined to show the truth and hopefully clear it up.”

    He and Natalie say they have been living in fear since being threatened in the street after Robinson shared the video with his 1.4 million followers. The far-right activist wrote on his X account: “Wtf is even going on here? Where are the parents?!”


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters
    Deeply worrying that such baseless, racist trolling from a known mendacious criminal finds a credulous audience.
    Another example of why social media needs to be regulated. Make them responsible as publishers for what they distribute around the world
    The true problem is the algorithms. Which promote content that enrages people. Because enraging most people increases their engagement.

    If you said that sites that only list by conversation and time (such as PB) are not classed as publishers, but those that use algorithms are, you would strike at the heart of the problem.
    Another reason to ban X totally from UK servers.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,374
    Was Jeffrey Epstein’s jail staircase a blind spot? (2-minute video from Australian news)

    Mystery remains around the staircase leading to Jeffrey Epstein’s jail cell, the only access point on the night he died. Despite claims by FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino that no one could have gone up undetected, surveillance footage tells a different story.
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/16bwOwcqjdE
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,374
    Judge who had sex with partner in Chambers admits 'shame'
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/judge-sex-partner-chambers-shame-misconduct-b1243811.html

    Cambridge-educated lawyer had sex 15 years ago.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,096

    Judge who had sex with partner in Chambers admits 'shame'
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/judge-sex-partner-chambers-shame-misconduct-b1243811.html

    Cambridge-educated lawyer had sex 15 years ago.

    Ah, one of the more sexually successful ones then.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,928

    The Ministry of Defence has admitted there have been 49 separate data breaches in the past four years at the unit handling relocation applications from Afghans seeking safety in the UK.

    Poor effort not to hit the half century.

    They're so useless they can't even do data breaches properly.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,928

    Judge who had sex with partner in Chambers admits 'shame'
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/judge-sex-partner-chambers-shame-misconduct-b1243811.html

    Cambridge-educated lawyer had sex 15 years ago.

    As often as that?

    That's surprising. We all know how Cambridge educated lawyers are as celibate as they are modest and subtle.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,803
    Nigelb said:

    The alternative to Trump being a Russian asset is that he's just really, really stupid.
    But with enormous confidence in himself.

    Trump: Crimea is massive, I would say like the size of Texas or something. In the middle of the ocean.
    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958221481894093228

    Yes, I think that's true. The most dangerous people aren't the stupid or ignorant ones per se, they're the stupid ones who think they're clever. Trump clearly knows no economics but has decided to upend America's trading system, he knows nothing whatever about foreign countries but has decided to destroy decades of patient American diplomacy, he is uninterested in the very complex problem of immigration but has decided to destroy millions of lives etc etc.

    Also in Trump's case he clearly has a number of mental illnesses to an unusual degree, especially ADHD, narcissism and sociopathy.

    I think politicians should undergo mental health screening. If it's appropriate for soldiers or police or whoever why not for the most important people in public life?

    Of course that might decimate Congress and the House of Commons ...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,928
    Fishing said:

    Nigelb said:

    The alternative to Trump being a Russian asset is that he's just really, really stupid.
    But with enormous confidence in himself.

    Trump: Crimea is massive, I would say like the size of Texas or something. In the middle of the ocean.
    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958221481894093228

    Yes, I think that's true. The most dangerous people aren't the stupid or ignorant ones per se, they're the stupid ones who think they're clever. Trump clearly knows no economics but has decided to upend America's trading system, he knows nothing whatever about foreign countries but has decided to destroy decades of patient American diplomacy, he is uninterested in the very complex problem of immigration but has decided to destroy millions of lives etc etc.

    Also in Trump's case he clearly has a number of mental illnesses to an unusual degree, especially ADHD, narcissism and sociopathy.

    I think politicians should undergo mental health screening. If it's appropriate for soldiers or police or whoever why not for the most important people in public life?

    Of course that might decimate Congress and the House of Commons ...
    Since he's already had multiple screenings for dementia and claims to have aced them every time I'm not sure what help trying to diagnose his other mental health problems would be. Whatever the outcome he'd just claim he'd passed it, and his cabinet would back him up.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,728

    On flags, a Palestinian one - with about 8 or 9 notably middle-class Lefty protestors holding up a banner- turned up in my parents local habitat outside the town hall one Friday afternoon, for precisely 21 minutes.

    They were doing it to get photos for social media, with bemused locals walking by and no car horns or anything else to cheer them. I presume this is so they can say, "Village XXX supports Free Palestine!", or similar on Twitter/BS. And harvest the likes from peers.

    It tells you a couple of things: Free Palestine activists don't work, and that they live for this stuff - which they think they really care about but which is actually about their social lives.

    I think the Venn diagram of those involved with XR, JSO, YD, Free Palestine protests is a basically a single circle. I am sure they will all be Your Party members in short order as well.
    The SWP was the Jocasta and Jonty party too.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,728
    Dura_Ace said:

    I have to say that Penny Mordaunt was superb on Newsnight this evening.

    If the conservatives want any chance they need to get her a by-election seat they can win very soon.

    She's turning into Ayesha of Kor in tory mythology.
    It is a mythos of course, and she certainly has faults, but she is the only Tory that could lead a recovery.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,728

    Roger said:

    Scott_xP said:

    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/

    An unusually informative article
    And it is by AEP who for some reason is not thought of highly by the bien pensants of PB.

    AEPs track record is pretty poor, but amongst the dross are a few flecks of gold.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,372
    Cicero said:

    Roger said:

    Scott_xP said:

    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/

    An unusually informative article
    And it is by AEP who for some reason is not thought of highly by the bien pensants of PB.

    AEPs track record is pretty poor, but amongst the dross are a few flecks of gold.
    You'd think all the panning he gets would reveal them occasionally, though ?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,233
    edited 6:22AM
    Fishing said:

    Nigelb said:

    The alternative to Trump being a Russian asset is that he's just really, really stupid.
    But with enormous confidence in himself.

    Trump: Crimea is massive, I would say like the size of Texas or something. In the middle of the ocean.
    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958221481894093228

    Yes, I think that's true. The most dangerous people aren't the stupid or ignorant ones per se, they're the stupid ones who think they're clever. Trump clearly knows no economics but has decided to upend America's trading system, he knows nothing whatever about foreign countries but has decided to destroy decades of patient American diplomacy, he is uninterested in the very complex problem of immigration but has decided to destroy millions of lives etc etc.

    Also in Trump's case he clearly has a number of mental illnesses to an unusual degree, especially ADHD, narcissism and sociopathy.

    I think politicians should undergo mental health screening. If it's appropriate for soldiers or police or whoever why not for the most important people in public life?

    Of course that might decimate Congress and the House of Commons ...
    Not to disagree with the main points but on immigration everyone from Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama to Labour Party coffee mugs has pledged to "send back" illegal immigrants.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,372
    The whole "we shouldn't have fought Hitler" thing seems to be having a moment on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Tucker Carlson agrees with a guest on his show who says, “It turns out I think the story we got about World War II is all wrong… one can make the argument that we should have sided with Hitler.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1958385952176439317

    Any resemblance to MAGA attitudes towards Putin is purely coincidental.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,837
    ydoethur said:

    Fishing said:

    Nigelb said:

    The alternative to Trump being a Russian asset is that he's just really, really stupid.
    But with enormous confidence in himself.

    Trump: Crimea is massive, I would say like the size of Texas or something. In the middle of the ocean.
    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958221481894093228

    Yes, I think that's true. The most dangerous people aren't the stupid or ignorant ones per se, they're the stupid ones who think they're clever. Trump clearly knows no economics but has decided to upend America's trading system, he knows nothing whatever about foreign countries but has decided to destroy decades of patient American diplomacy, he is uninterested in the very complex problem of immigration but has decided to destroy millions of lives etc etc.

    Also in Trump's case he clearly has a number of mental illnesses to an unusual degree, especially ADHD, narcissism and sociopathy.

    I think politicians should undergo mental health screening. If it's appropriate for soldiers or police or whoever why not for the most important people in public life?

    Of course that might decimate Congress and the House of Commons ...
    Since he's already had multiple screenings for dementia and claims to have aced them every time I'm not sure what help trying to diagnose his other mental health problems would be. Whatever the outcome he'd just claim he'd passed it, and his cabinet would back him up.
    Surely we can all agree that Trump scored full marks on his dementia test?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,096
    Fishing said:

    Nigelb said:

    The alternative to Trump being a Russian asset is that he's just really, really stupid.
    But with enormous confidence in himself.

    Trump: Crimea is massive, I would say like the size of Texas or something. In the middle of the ocean.
    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958221481894093228

    Yes, I think that's true. The most dangerous people aren't the stupid or ignorant ones per se, they're the stupid ones who think they're clever. Trump clearly knows no economics but has decided to upend America's trading system, he knows nothing whatever about foreign countries but has decided to destroy decades of patient American diplomacy, he is uninterested in the very complex problem of immigration but has decided to destroy millions of lives etc etc.

    Also in Trump's case he clearly has a number of mental illnesses to an unusual degree, especially ADHD, narcissism and sociopathy.

    I think politicians should undergo mental health screening. If it's appropriate for soldiers or police or whoever why not for the most important people in public life?

    Of course that might decimate Congress and the House of Commons ...
    Oh come on, @Leon's not that dangerous.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,374
    edited 6:29AM
    Nigelb said:

    The whole "we shouldn't have fought Hitler" thing seems to be having a moment on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Tucker Carlson agrees with a guest on his show who says, “It turns out I think the story we got about World War II is all wrong… one can make the argument that we should have sided with Hitler.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1958385952176439317

    Any resemblance to MAGA attitudes towards Putin is purely coincidental.

    I can't be bothered to watch Tucker Carlson but surely siding with Hitler would mean defeating the Soviet Union?

    ETA and since it was Hitler who declared war on America, presumably they want Britain to have made peace in 1940, or to have not declared war in the first place.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,233
    edited 6:29AM
    Cicero said:

    On flags, a Palestinian one - with about 8 or 9 notably middle-class Lefty protestors holding up a banner- turned up in my parents local habitat outside the town hall one Friday afternoon, for precisely 21 minutes.

    They were doing it to get photos for social media, with bemused locals walking by and no car horns or anything else to cheer them. I presume this is so they can say, "Village XXX supports Free Palestine!", or similar on Twitter/BS. And harvest the likes from peers.

    It tells you a couple of things: Free Palestine activists don't work, and that they live for this stuff - which they think they really care about but which is actually about their social lives.

    I think the Venn diagram of those involved with XR, JSO, YD, Free Palestine protests is a basically a single circle. I am sure they will all be Your Party members in short order as well.
    The SWP was the Jocasta and Jonty party too.
    There is a funny clip going around of a police officer accusing a Kaffiyeh-wearing white middle class sjw of cultural appropriation. At which she, the cultural appropriator, gets weally, weally angry.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,656

    Nigelb said:

    The whole "we shouldn't have fought Hitler" thing seems to be having a moment on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Tucker Carlson agrees with a guest on his show who says, “It turns out I think the story we got about World War II is all wrong… one can make the argument that we should have sided with Hitler.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1958385952176439317

    Any resemblance to MAGA attitudes towards Putin is purely coincidental.

    I can't be bothered to watch Tucker Carlson but surely siding with Hitler would mean defeating the Soviet Union?
    Only in 1941, in 1939 Hitler and Stalin were allies.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,372

    Nigelb said:

    The whole "we shouldn't have fought Hitler" thing seems to be having a moment on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Tucker Carlson agrees with a guest on his show who says, “It turns out I think the story we got about World War II is all wrong… one can make the argument that we should have sided with Hitler.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1958385952176439317

    Any resemblance to MAGA attitudes towards Putin is purely coincidental.

    I can't be bothered to watch Tucker Carlson but surely siding with Hitler would mean defeating the Soviet Union?
    Putin was not around in WWII.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,656
    Good news on government receipts for those on PB who watch such things:

    The UK government borrowed £1.1bn last month, the lowest July borrowing for three years, in a boost to the chancellor ahead of her autumn budget.

    The figure was £2.3bn lower than a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said. It was also below economists’ forecasts.

    Income tax receipts via self assessment totalled £15.5bn, £2.7bn more than in July 2024.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,372
    Foxy said:

    Good news on government receipts for those on PB who watch such things:

    The UK government borrowed £1.1bn last month, the lowest July borrowing for three years, in a boost to the chancellor ahead of her autumn budget.

    The figure was £2.3bn lower than a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said. It was also below economists’ forecasts.

    Income tax receipts via self assessment totalled £15.5bn, £2.7bn more than in July 2024.

    What will the Great Extrapolator make of that ?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,795

    The Ministry of Defence has admitted there have been 49 separate data breaches in the past four years at the unit handling relocation applications from Afghans seeking safety in the UK.

    Poor effort not to hit the half century.

    Honestly it’s like industrial grade incompetence.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,372
    Nigelb said:

    Cicero said:

    Roger said:

    Scott_xP said:

    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/

    An unusually informative article
    And it is by AEP who for some reason is not thought of highly by the bien pensants of PB.

    AEPs track record is pretty poor, but amongst the dross are a few flecks of gold.
    You'd think all the panning he gets would reveal them occasionally, though ?
    No love for that awesome pun ?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,795
    Foxy said:

    Good news on government receipts for those on PB who watch such things:

    The UK government borrowed £1.1bn last month, the lowest July borrowing for three years, in a boost to the chancellor ahead of her autumn budget.

    The figure was £2.3bn lower than a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said. It was also below economists’ forecasts.

    Income tax receipts via self assessment totalled £15.5bn, £2.7bn more than in July 2024.

    Back of the net for Rachel!!!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,918
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    The whole "we shouldn't have fought Hitler" thing seems to be having a moment on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Tucker Carlson agrees with a guest on his show who says, “It turns out I think the story we got about World War II is all wrong… one can make the argument that we should have sided with Hitler.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1958385952176439317

    Any resemblance to MAGA attitudes towards Putin is purely coincidental.

    I can't be bothered to watch Tucker Carlson but surely siding with Hitler would mean defeating the Soviet Union?
    Only in 1941, in 1939 Hitler and Stalin were allies.
    But Hitler was always going to fight the USSR. Anyone with a passing knowledge of history knows that, whether Britain had opted for peace in 1940 or not.

    Ah - I see the problem…
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,372

    Foxy said:

    Good news on government receipts for those on PB who watch such things:

    The UK government borrowed £1.1bn last month, the lowest July borrowing for three years, in a boost to the chancellor ahead of her autumn budget.

    The figure was £2.3bn lower than a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said. It was also below economists’ forecasts.

    Income tax receipts via self assessment totalled £15.5bn, £2.7bn more than in July 2024.

    Back of the net for Rachel!!!
    Random monthly fluctuations don't really mean all that much, though ?
    If it were £10bn rather than £2bn lower, then I might be impressed.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,918
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Cicero said:

    Roger said:

    Scott_xP said:

    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/

    An unusually informative article
    And it is by AEP who for some reason is not thought of highly by the bien pensants of PB.

    AEPs track record is pretty poor, but amongst the dross are a few flecks of gold.
    You'd think all the panning he gets would reveal them occasionally, though ?
    No love for that awesome pun ?
    Ah the saddest thing on PB, when you’ve made an awesome pun and no one gives it a like. It’s August and 7.30 am - no one’s up.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,795
    edited 6:39AM
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Good news on government receipts for those on PB who watch such things:

    The UK government borrowed £1.1bn last month, the lowest July borrowing for three years, in a boost to the chancellor ahead of her autumn budget.

    The figure was £2.3bn lower than a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said. It was also below economists’ forecasts.

    Income tax receipts via self assessment totalled £15.5bn, £2.7bn more than in July 2024.

    Back of the net for Rachel!!!
    Random monthly fluctuations don't really mean all that much, though ?
    If it were £10bn rather than £2bn lower, then I might be impressed.
    Monthly fluctuations the other way are usually met with calls to the IMF so why not
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,328

    NEW THREAD

  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,290

    Judge who had sex with partner in Chambers admits 'shame'
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/judge-sex-partner-chambers-shame-misconduct-b1243811.html

    Cambridge-educated lawyer had sex 15 years ago.

    For having sex with your consenting partner in your office at the workplace, calling it "inappropriate" seems about right. What impact does "a formal warning" have on a Judicial career?

    If there was some professional impropriety, fair enough, or I guess if it was on company time.

    Imo it's a touch "mountains and molehills". And the motivation on the complaint being made after the relationship was over seems a bit ... off.

    I wonder if she was a lawyer :smiley: ?
  • TazTaz Posts: 20,469
    Govt issues urgent appeal for 5,000 homes to,house 20,000 asylum seekers.

    They should put them all in the leafy shires.

    https://x.com/tonydowson5/status/1958264617928728987?s=61
  • TazTaz Posts: 20,469
    Nigelb said:

    Cicero said:

    Roger said:

    Scott_xP said:

    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/

    An unusually informative article
    And it is by AEP who for some reason is not thought of highly by the bien pensants of PB.

    AEPs track record is pretty poor, but amongst the dross are a few flecks of gold.
    You'd think all the panning he gets would reveal them occasionally, though ?
    Boom
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,626
    edited 8:08AM
    Taz said:

    Govt issues urgent appeal for 5,000 homes to,house 20,000 asylum seekers.

    They should put them all in the leafy shires.

    https://x.com/tonydowson5/status/1958264617928728987?s=61

    Put them up in Buckingham Palace, Windsor, Balmoral, Sandringham, Chequers, Chevening, etc, etc.
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