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edited July 28 in General
The farce of the Online Safety Act. YouGov tweets are now being censored – politicalbetting.com

Last week the Online Safety Act came into force and as long predicted it is a bloody mess as we can see social media companies such as Twitter having to censor content regarding the act which is an Orwellian nightmare, the screenshot above shows a YouGov tweet having to be hidden.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,998
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    Discovery is going to be a blast.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,944
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    It's made things hard for him.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,998
    edited July 28
    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
    Yes.

    If were Coldplay's lawyers for the LOLs I'd ask for every bit of communications between Mr Byron and his mistress.

    Hopefully there was no sexting going on.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
    Yes.

    If were Coldplay's lawyers for the LOLs I'd ask for every bit of communications between Mr Byron and his mistress.

    Hopefully there was no sexting going on.
    Wouldn't sharing that be blocked under the online safety act?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,388
    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
    More expensive anyway
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,508
    In totally harmless fun for all ages, here is Mr Dog inspecting a couple of natural orifices; part of the giant’s kettles of Askola, against the rocks of which he was quite remarkably camouflaged:




  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,336
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
    Yes.

    If were Coldplay's lawyers for the LOLs I'd ask for every bit of communications between Mr Byron and his mistress.

    Hopefully there was no sexting going on.
    Wouldn't sharing that be blocked under the online safety act?
    Shouldn't he have waited until after the divorce settlement?
    His wife will just put in a claim for a % of what he's claiming from Coldplay.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,699
    FPT

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I feel like trying to debate with HYUFD is like Konstantin Kisin debating with Jimmy The Giant.

    Yes be oh so superior if you like, I am sure paedophiles will be delighted with the stance of the two of you
    Your obsession with paedos....A much more realistic and bigger danger is that most kids have some sort of social media. Technically you aren't allowed it until 16, but every parent I know has set it up for their kids and its dead easy to bypass those checks anyway. I would be much more worried about who slides into their DMs.

    Online Safety Bill does nothing to address that.
    And the government to its rare credit may ban social media for under 16s too as UK police chiefs have also backed

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9gpdrx829o
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/apr/12/uk-police-chiefs-call-for-ban-on-social-media-for-under-16s
    What a stupid suggestion nobody will follow.

    Our daughter has social media, with our blessing, which she has under rules we have set.

    1: She is only allowed to communicate with friends she knows from real life.
    2: She is only allowed to video call her friends if she does so with her door open.
    3: She is only allowed to video call her friends if she does so with a tidy bedroom.

    Any communications with people she doesn't know IRL would result in a confiscated phone.

    She had her last day of Primary School earlier this week, her friends she's known for the past 7 years are now splitting off going to different High Schools. Social media is a good way for them to keep in touch, over the summer and beyond. With our blessing, on the final day at school, after her leavers assembly the kids were all exchanging phone numbers and social media details between those they didn't already have, though she already had her closest friends details and has been chatting with her best friend on Roblox for years.
    And what you're not acknowledging is that it is precisely this group effect that is so damaging.

    You may have set up your household to allow your daughter to use social media without undue damage to her development and mental health, but this requires knowledge and skill that is not yet widespread throughout parents of your daughter's class.

    The social pressure on young kids to get onto social media because their friends are is where the most damage is caused. You're celebrating this.

    And of course, you could go on about poor parenting or whatever, but this tech is so new I don't think it's reasonable to expect all parents to be experts in how to ringfence it and to protect their kids against its more pernicious effects.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,998
    Dopermean said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
    Yes.

    If were Coldplay's lawyers for the LOLs I'd ask for every bit of communications between Mr Byron and his mistress.

    Hopefully there was no sexting going on.
    Wouldn't sharing that be blocked under the online safety act?
    Shouldn't he have waited until after the divorce settlement?
    His wife will just put in a claim for a % of what he's claiming from Coldplay.
    It's a nonsense action, every ticket you buy for a sporting or musical event has it in the terms and conditions that you will be recorded an used and there's bugger all you can do about it.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,388
    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,336
    IanB2 said:

    In totally harmless fun for all ages, here is Mr Dog inspecting a couple of natural orifices; part of the giant’s kettles of Askola, against the rocks of which he was quite remarkably camouflaged:




    Lucky he's sensible, if that was my sibling's retriever(?) the next photo would be of the cave rescue team...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,840
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    For what it's worth, I thought Chris Martin was a bit of a twat for calling them out.

    He'd have done better to have kept his thoughts to himself, and just said - "oh, they're a bit shy, let's move on!" - and then flipped the camera.

    It really isn't any of his business.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,508
    In other news, from CNN:

    This could be the most consequential week for the economy in years: The state of President Donald Trump’s economy is about to come into full view. A slew of crucial economic data is set for release this week, including the jobs report, inflation, consumer confidence and corporate earnings. We’ll get the first glimpse at America’s second-quarter gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the economy. And, most crucially, the Federal Reserve will decide whether to cut rates or hold steady one more time.

    As if that weren’t enough, Trump’s trade polices also come due: Friday is the administration’s self-imposed deadline for settling tariff rates for all 200+ US trading partners. Trump’s top economic advisers will be negotiating a trade framework with China in Sweden. And an appeals court will hear arguments this week about whether the bulk of Trump’s tariffs are even legal, to begin with.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,840
    On topic, quite. Politicians don't think through the impact of their legislation, shock.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,388
    @paulhutcheon

    🚨EXC: John Swinney says the SNP will have to win an outright majority at the Holyrood election to secure indyref2.

    He has revealed his strategy for a referendum in the Record and will table a motion at his party's conference.

    This is big news for the indy movement. Swinney is saying the SNP need to win 65 plus seats on their own and not in partnership with the Greens.

    https://x.com/paulhutcheon/status/1949722744871944303
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,480
    IanB2 said:

    In other news, from CNN:

    This could be the most consequential week for the economy in years: The state of President Donald Trump’s economy is about to come into full view. A slew of crucial economic data is set for release this week, including the jobs report, inflation, consumer confidence and corporate earnings. We’ll get the first glimpse at America’s second-quarter gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the economy. And, most crucially, the Federal Reserve will decide whether to cut rates or hold steady one more time.

    As if that weren’t enough, Trump’s trade polices also come due: Friday is the administration’s self-imposed deadline for settling tariff rates for all 200+ US trading partners. Trump’s top economic advisers will be negotiating a trade framework with China in Sweden. And an appeals court will hear arguments this week about whether the bulk of Trump’s tariffs are even legal, to begin with.

    It’ll be pretty simple, good stuff = direct result of the actions and decisions of our orange god-king, bad stuff = Biden economy.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,350
    Incidentally, one final anecdote from the weekend:

    We got back to the hotel from the theatre (*) at about eleven, and went to a restaurant for a drink and a snack. A young couple, probably early twenties, were at the table next to ours. And whilst many of the oldies at the surrounding tables were staring at their mobiles, this young couple were chatting as they played a tiny travel chess set.

    (*) Book of Mormon, which was actually very funny, and quite thought-provoking.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,775
    Ha. As mentioned last thread, I can't currently send DMs on BlueSky unless I jump through some hoops following the introduction of the 'save the KIDS!' law.

    Politicians are impressively dense when it comes to technology. You can't use algorithms to make the internet safe for kids. They're not magic.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,998

    Ha. As mentioned last thread, I can't currently send DMs on BlueSky unless I jump through some hoops following the introduction of the 'save the KIDS!' law.

    Politicians are impressively dense when it comes to technology. You can't use algorithms to make the internet safe for kids. They're not magic.

    Before my kids were 10 they were already installing apps on their iPads.

    Also, I have had a VPN for several years, so I can pay and watch sporting events not broadcast in the UK.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,480
    maxh said:

    FPT

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I feel like trying to debate with HYUFD is like Konstantin Kisin debating with Jimmy The Giant.

    Yes be oh so superior if you like, I am sure paedophiles will be delighted with the stance of the two of you
    Your obsession with paedos....A much more realistic and bigger danger is that most kids have some sort of social media. Technically you aren't allowed it until 16, but every parent I know has set it up for their kids and its dead easy to bypass those checks anyway. I would be much more worried about who slides into their DMs.

    Online Safety Bill does nothing to address that.
    And the government to its rare credit may ban social media for under 16s too as UK police chiefs have also backed

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9gpdrx829o
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/apr/12/uk-police-chiefs-call-for-ban-on-social-media-for-under-16s
    What a stupid suggestion nobody will follow.

    Our daughter has social media, with our blessing, which she has under rules we have set.

    1: She is only allowed to communicate with friends she knows from real life.
    2: She is only allowed to video call her friends if she does so with her door open.
    3: She is only allowed to video call her friends if she does so with a tidy bedroom.

    Any communications with people she doesn't know IRL would result in a confiscated phone.

    She had her last day of Primary School earlier this week, her friends she's known for the past 7 years are now splitting off going to different High Schools. Social media is a good way for them to keep in touch, over the summer and beyond. With our blessing, on the final day at school, after her leavers assembly the kids were all exchanging phone numbers and social media details between those they didn't already have, though she already had her closest friends details and has been chatting with her best friend on Roblox for years.
    And what you're not acknowledging is that it is precisely this group effect that is so damaging.

    You may have set up your household to allow your daughter to use social media without undue damage to her development and mental health, but this requires knowledge and skill that is not yet widespread throughout parents of your daughter's class.

    The social pressure on young kids to get onto social media because their friends are is where the most damage is caused. You're celebrating this.

    And of course, you could go on about poor parenting or whatever, but this tech is so new I don't think it's reasonable to expect all parents to be experts in how to ringfence it and to protect their kids against its more pernicious effects.
    There's nothing pernicious there, this was all done under parental supervision.

    Yes I'm celebrating my daughter, with permission and consent, being able to stay in touch with her ex classmates and friends. Its a good thing in my view.

    Any parent who doesn't want that can prevent it by choosing not to give permission or not getting them a phone etc
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,702

    On topic, quite. Politicians don't think through the impact of their legislation, shock.

    You’d think as the Bill went through Parliament someone would have flagged up the VPN issue aswell as many of the other unintended consequences of the legislation. Instead there was tumbleweed.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,840
    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It's just like Oddjob and Auric Goldfinger.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497
    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,775

    Ha. As mentioned last thread, I can't currently send DMs on BlueSky unless I jump through some hoops following the introduction of the 'save the KIDS!' law.

    Politicians are impressively dense when it comes to technology. You can't use algorithms to make the internet safe for kids. They're not magic.

    Before my kids were 10 they were already installing apps on their iPads.

    Also, I have had a VPN for several years, so I can pay and watch sporting events not broadcast in the UK.
    The Government will succeed in mildly annoying and inconveniencing a lot of adults, while also ensuring some upload passport details when they otherwise would not have. To send a DM on BlueSky.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,388
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,840
    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Why wasn't Chris Martin there to provide the commentary?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497
    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Donald Trump was invited to play the Old Course at St Andrews. Because of his age, state of health and lack of knowledge of the course, he was assigned a caddy.

    He plays all 18 holes and after sinking the final putt turns to his caddy and says, 'Waddya think of my game?'

    The caddy thinks, then says, 'Well, it has some good features, but I think golf is a better game.'
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497

    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Why wasn't Chris Martin there to provide the commentary?
    Perhaps he was just shy.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647
    edited July 28
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    ...'most people do that sort of thing.'

    'You know nothing about goats...'

  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,456
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    Arguably there is a partial responsibility for Coldplay in that they called out his bad actions for the world’s attention. Perhaps a judge will determine that they are 20% responsible?

    But it’s just a shakedown
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    ...'most people do that sort of thing.'

    'You know nothing about goats...'

    Apparently some people find them horny.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,388
    ydoethur said:

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    Once again I have to ask the question, what will these people do after Trump?

    Is the cult really going to transfer to JD Vance?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647
    I wondered what the point of the new N Korean tourist resort was.

    Moscow starts direct flights to North Korea amid decline in options for Russian tourists
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/moscow-pyongyang-direct-flights-russia-to-north-korea-tourists
  • eekeek Posts: 30,799
    Nigelb said:

    I wondered what the point of the new N Korean tourist resort was.

    Moscow starts direct flights to North Korea amid decline in options for Russian tourists
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/moscow-pyongyang-direct-flights-russia-to-north-korea-tourists

    Flights are once a month - I really wouldn't want to commit to 1 month in North Korea...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,270
    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Good morning

    His golf swing is farcical, he could not do a round of golf without a buggy, and as for his handicap who knows

    He is only deceiving himself and quite frankly it's just a circus of stupidity

    Mind you, he seems to have charmed UVL in welcoming 15% tariffs plus billions of dollars worth of US energy and armaments from him thereby making Europe dependent on Trump's US for energy and defence security
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    Arguably there is a partial responsibility for Coldplay in that they called out his bad actions for the world’s attention. Perhaps a judge will determine that they are 20% responsible?

    But it’s just a shakedown
    It was a considered action by the plaintiff to attend the gig. The same cannot be said of a performer on stage in front of a large audience.

    0.2% might be closer to the mark.

    Under what tort is he claiming damages, anyway ?
    At a public event, reinforced by the terms and conditions on the ticketing, 1st Amendment surely applies.
    And what duty of care is owed in those circumstances ?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,840
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Why wasn't Chris Martin there to provide the commentary?
    Perhaps he was just shy.
    Yellow.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647

    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Good morning

    His golf swing is farcical, he could not do a round of golf without a buggy, and as for his handicap who knows

    He is only deceiving himself and quite frankly it's just a circus of stupidity

    Mind you, he seems to have charmed UVL in welcoming 15% tariffs plus billions of dollars worth of US energy and armaments from him thereby making Europe dependent on Trump's US for energy and defence security
    Has Europe committed to doing anything they weren't already going to do ?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,744
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    ...'most people do that sort of thing.'

    'You know nothing about goats...'

    Apparently some people find them horny.
    Don't be a silly billy
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,871
    Tbh I'm glad nonsense like this is showing up, it highlights the utter absurdity of the act.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    ...'most people do that sort of thing.'

    'You know nothing about goats...'

    Apparently some people find them horny.
    Don't be a silly billy
    Does he get your goat ?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,744

    Incidentally, one final anecdote from the weekend:

    We got back to the hotel from the theatre (*) at about eleven, and went to a restaurant for a drink and a snack. A young couple, probably early twenties, were at the table next to ours. And whilst many of the oldies at the surrounding tables were staring at their mobiles, this young couple were chatting as they played a tiny travel chess set.

    (*) Book of Mormon, which was actually very funny, and quite thought-provoking.

    I was at an event on Saturday night on my railway and got chatting to a couple of young female friends from Winchester (early 20s) to explain how the signalling worked in laymans terms. She took out a small notepad and pencil to take notes - not sure why she was that keen, but she was - as she would otherwise forget.

    Quite a bit of nonsense is written about Gen Z.
    It makes a change from "let me show you my etchings..."
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,744
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    ...'most people do that sort of thing.'

    'You know nothing about goats...'

    Apparently some people find them horny.
    Don't be a silly billy
    Does he get your goat ?
    Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin.
  • Ha. As mentioned last thread, I can't currently send DMs on BlueSky unless I jump through some hoops following the introduction of the 'save the KIDS!' law.

    Politicians are impressively dense when it comes to technology. You can't use algorithms to make the internet safe for kids. They're not magic.

    Try accessing bluesky via the site deer.social - someone here recommended it last week (thanks) - gets around a lot of this.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647
    This is a very serious issue for the west's pharma/biotech industry.

    As we've seen in other sectors, China is seriously undercutting us on costs and development times. And our technology advantage is eroding.

    In the short term our big pharma companies will benefit. But if China takes over more of the research and development, they'll eventually get sidelined too.

    GSK licenses COPD drug from Hengrui Pharma for $500 million upfront: HKEX filing

    It's a PDE3/4 inhibitor — similar to Verona's drug that Merck bought out for $10B

    + GSK gets option for 11 of Hengrui's preclinical programs across oncology, respiratory, immunology, inflammation

    https://x.com/AmberTongPW/status/1949631934877016162
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178
    It was only censored as X picked up pornography as a term via its algorithm. You can still easily clock on the link
  • JonWCJonWC Posts: 290
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    I think he means a snog.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,497
    Pulpstar said:

    Tbh I'm glad nonsense like this is showing up, it highlights the utter absurdity of the act.

    I don't quite see how Trump's joke of a swing highlights the absurdity of...oh you mean YouGov?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178

    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Good morning

    His golf swing is farcical, he could not do a round of golf without a buggy, and as for his handicap who knows

    He is only deceiving himself and quite frankly it's just a circus of stupidity

    Mind you, he seems to have charmed UVL in welcoming 15% tariffs plus billions of dollars worth of US energy and armaments from him thereby making Europe dependent on Trump's US for energy and defence security
    Which is better for the EU than the much higher tariffs their exports would otherwise have faced.

    The fact they may take in a few more US energy and arms imports doesn't necessarily make them dependent either
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178
    Scott_xP said:

    @paulhutcheon

    🚨EXC: John Swinney says the SNP will have to win an outright majority at the Holyrood election to secure indyref2.

    He has revealed his strategy for a referendum in the Record and will table a motion at his party's conference.

    This is big news for the indy movement. Swinney is saying the SNP need to win 65 plus seats on their own and not in partnership with the Greens.

    https://x.com/paulhutcheon/status/1949722744871944303

    Which he knows they have near zero chance of doing
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178
    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    Once again I have to ask the question, what will these people do after Trump?

    Is the cult really going to transfer to JD Vance?
    The core vote will but what Independent voters do is key
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,118
    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,972
    Morning all :)

    So we've established President Trump is golf's equivalent of Auric Goldfinger...I must confess he always reminded me of someone.

    As a liberal (please insert your own definition of what constitutes a "liberal" as everyone thinks they are one but everyone has their own idea of what one should be), I'm usually torn between the notion of the freedom to and the freedom from.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions though if it's been paved by some highways contractors it'll need to be repaved in six months and that's probably where we are. It probably seemed like a good and sensible idea at the time but the consequences of implementation weren't thought through - there probably wasn't sufficient time allowed in the legislative process to consider all the ramifications.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647
    .
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Good morning

    His golf swing is farcical, he could not do a round of golf without a buggy, and as for his handicap who knows

    He is only deceiving himself and quite frankly it's just a circus of stupidity

    Mind you, he seems to have charmed UVL in welcoming 15% tariffs plus billions of dollars worth of US energy and armaments from him thereby making Europe dependent on Trump's US for energy and defence security
    Which is better for the EU than the much higher tariffs their exports would otherwise have faced.

    The fact they may take in a few more US energy and arms imports doesn't necessarily make them dependent either
    The EU is inevitably going to buy more US gas, as they phase out Russian supplies.

    We haven't seen the actual text of the deal, but I would give decent odds that there's no actual binding commitment to purchase a defined amount of either LNG or military armaments.

    The 15% tariff is real, of course.

    It's a more rational level than the 50% etc nonsense, but it will be interesting to see how much, if at all, the US actually benefits from the 15% vs 0% in the other direction.
    It something economists will study, as I don't think the outcome is entirely predictable.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647
    TOPPING said:

    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.

    Apart from a lot of the MPs who voted for it, and Reform politicians who backed it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,072

    IanB2 said:

    In other news, from CNN:

    This could be the most consequential week for the economy in years: The state of President Donald Trump’s economy is about to come into full view. A slew of crucial economic data is set for release this week, including the jobs report, inflation, consumer confidence and corporate earnings. We’ll get the first glimpse at America’s second-quarter gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the economy. And, most crucially, the Federal Reserve will decide whether to cut rates or hold steady one more time.

    As if that weren’t enough, Trump’s trade polices also come due: Friday is the administration’s self-imposed deadline for settling tariff rates for all 200+ US trading partners. Trump’s top economic advisers will be negotiating a trade framework with China in Sweden. And an appeals court will hear arguments this week about whether the bulk of Trump’s tariffs are even legal, to begin with.

    It’ll be pretty simple, good stuff = direct result of the actions and decisions of our orange god-king, bad stuff = Biden economy.
    And also it is all Powell's fault.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,663
    It appears from this interview that threatening to report certain posters to Prevent wouldn’t result in much.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jul/28/david-amess-daughter-katie-mp-murder

    It’s worth a read not just for the criticism of Prevent but as a lovely insight into Sir David Ames’s as a person by his daughter. Seems like he was a very good egg.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,350

    Incidentally, one final anecdote from the weekend:

    We got back to the hotel from the theatre (*) at about eleven, and went to a restaurant for a drink and a snack. A young couple, probably early twenties, were at the table next to ours. And whilst many of the oldies at the surrounding tables were staring at their mobiles, this young couple were chatting as they played a tiny travel chess set.

    (*) Book of Mormon, which was actually very funny, and quite thought-provoking.

    I was at an event on Saturday night on my railway and got chatting to a couple of young female friends from Winchester (early 20s) to explain how the signalling worked in laymans terms. She took out a small notepad and pencil to take notes - not sure why she was that keen, but she was - as she would otherwise forget.

    Quite a bit of nonsense is written about Gen Z.
    I was always amazed by mechanical interlocking. Despite being a fairly competent programmer, I never fully got my head around how the mesh of rods worked.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,955
    TOPPING said:

    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.

    I wasn’t surprised.

    A couple of posters here were saying that it would only affect bad people.

    The real fun will come with the convenience of this. The police love an online crime - great for the stats. Long before “arrested for tweeting while setting fire to immigrants”, we had the crime of “posting nasty things about Chardonnay”.

    The next stage will be going after people for wrong think - there are plenty of opinions that’s are offensive to some people and whose truth is questionable.

    The following stage is options that are offensive - and their truth is an offence. “Your truth contradicts my religion.”

    After that we move to “it’s offensive to say that the chocolate ration increased from 20 grams to 15 grams. It actually increased to 14 grams.”

    I can hear people saying that Starmer & Co. won’t do that. But look at the polls. And who might come next.

    Just imagine Trump and his pals on the Supreme Court with this stuff to play with.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,247
    Dopermean said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    CEO Andy Byron's moving forward with suing Coldplay for ruing his life.

    "A song cost me my family, my job, & everything I built." – he said.

    It's good to see Andy taking responsibility for his decision to have an affair.
    This is just going to end up making it worse for him, isn’t it !
    Yes.

    If were Coldplay's lawyers for the LOLs I'd ask for every bit of communications between Mr Byron and his mistress.

    Hopefully there was no sexting going on.
    Wouldn't sharing that be blocked under the online safety act?
    Shouldn't he have waited until after the divorce settlement?
    His wife will just put in a claim for a % of what he's claiming from Coldplay.
    What an idiot but he is American after all.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,647
    A new MAGA line:

    "I'll take a pedo over a commie any day.."
    https://x.com/RightWingCope/status/1949546870444822625
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,988
    Russia is literally descending into anarchy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7IyrpY8tF8

    TL/DR; Russia is losing its police. The army pays a lot more and attracts the same type of people; other, safer jobs pay as much. The police vacancy rate is 25 per cent nationally but 75 per cent in some, mainly rural, areas. This means police concentrate on serious crime and let more petty offences slide.

    Thank heavens that could never happen here.

    Oh, and in Russia vigilantes are filling the gap. We don't see that here, except in Northern Ireland and in Leon's prognostications. Yet.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,955
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    So we've established President Trump is golf's equivalent of Auric Goldfinger...I must confess he always reminded me of someone.

    As a liberal (please insert your own definition of what constitutes a "liberal" as everyone thinks they are one but everyone has their own idea of what one should be), I'm usually torn between the notion of the freedom to and the freedom from.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions though if it's been paved by some highways contractors it'll need to be repaved in six months and that's probably where we are. It probably seemed like a good and sensible idea at the time but the consequences of implementation weren't thought through - there probably wasn't sufficient time allowed in the legislative process to consider all the ramifications.

    That’s rather rude to Auric Goldfinger. To start with Goldfinger had absolutely no problem with a diverse workforce, and created an apparently meritocratic organisation. Based on vision, technical expertise and interest, by Goldfinger, in the goals.

    His crackdown on organised crime must have put the Mafia back decades.

    He reached out to China before Nixon and pioneered commercial ties with their government.

    All in all…. #GoldfingerForPresident
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,035
    edited July 28
    Morning all.
    Rumour has it cabinet is not being recalled for Gaza but because there is some evidence someone called Keir Starmer a poo-poo head online .
    Dangerous times we live in.
    Online arse act. Governments love that shit
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,972

    TOPPING said:

    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.

    I wasn’t surprised.

    A couple of posters here were saying that it would only affect bad people.

    The real fun will come with the convenience of this. The police love an online crime - great for the stats. Long before “arrested for tweeting while setting fire to immigrants”, we had the crime of “posting nasty things about Chardonnay”.

    The next stage will be going after people for wrong think - there are plenty of opinions that’s are offensive to some people and whose truth is questionable.

    The following stage is options that are offensive - and their truth is an offence. “Your truth contradicts my religion.”

    After that we move to “it’s offensive to say that the chocolate ration increased from 20 grams to 15 grams. It actually increased to 14 grams.”

    I can hear people saying that Starmer & Co. won’t do that. But look at the polls. And who might come next.

    Just imagine Trump and his pals on the Supreme Court with this stuff to play with.
    Ah, we're back to the old chestnut of the freedom to offend versus freedom from offence. It's a tricky one - those who enjoy dishing it out in the name of their truth get very irate when their right to dish it out is challenged by those who would prefer not to have to listen to someone else's version of the truth yet can't express their version.

    My issue with where we are isn't about freedom of speech but fairness of speech - there are too many voices which don't get heard or, more accurately, a small group dominates the debate with repetitive argument from their truth.

    Is that small group in any way representative of opinion as a whole? No, it's certainly not the case here for example.

    It has always been the case money and time buy you a voice or voices - it's been the case in the printed media for decades and it's probably true in the online world as well.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,118
    I mean Reddit asked me to verify my age the other day when I asked the internet how to do something fairly straightforward and most certainly non p*rn-related. What on earth is going on.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,288
    Online snooping act :lol:
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,988
    Russia has also just banned advertising VPNs, and accessing extremist content.

    One of those things has not happened here, yet, but judging by today's and yesterday's threads, it is only a matter of time.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,642
    edited July 28
    System said:

    The farce of the Online Safety Act. YouGov tweets are now being censored – politicalbetting.com

    Last week the Online Safety Act came into force and as long predicted it is a bloody mess as we can see social media companies such as Twitter having to censor content regarding the act which is an Orwellian nightmare, the screenshot above shows a YouGov tweet having to be hidden.

    Read the full story here

    This is odd - presumably a Kiss Cam is in the T&C?

    Otherwise, how could it be done?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,508

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    So we've established President Trump is golf's equivalent of Auric Goldfinger...I must confess he always reminded me of someone.

    As a liberal (please insert your own definition of what constitutes a "liberal" as everyone thinks they are one but everyone has their own idea of what one should be), I'm usually torn between the notion of the freedom to and the freedom from.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions though if it's been paved by some highways contractors it'll need to be repaved in six months and that's probably where we are. It probably seemed like a good and sensible idea at the time but the consequences of implementation weren't thought through - there probably wasn't sufficient time allowed in the legislative process to consider all the ramifications.

    That’s rather rude to Auric Goldfinger. To start with Goldfinger had absolutely no problem with a diverse workforce, and created an apparently meritocratic organisation. Based on vision, technical expertise and interest, by Goldfinger, in the goals.

    His crackdown on organised crime must have put the Mafia back decades.

    He reached out to China before Nixon and pioneered commercial ties with their government.

    All in all…. #GoldfingerForPresident
    Despite his younger days spent defending the Normandy coast for the Nazis?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,641
    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Cut the guy some slack. He's finding it hard to match Kim Jong Il's golfing performance (38 under par with 5 holes in one). So he plays a bit fast and loose with the rules... Its not like he's a Australian wicket keeper claiming a dodgy stumping...
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,739
    Pulpstar said:

    Tbh I'm glad nonsense like this is showing up, it highlights the utter absurdity of the act.

    It pretty much sums up one of the biggest problems we have as a country. Layer upon layer of performative legislation intended to sound good for the news cycle. Each one increases the regulatory burden and generates more inconvenience, far beyond the harm it is intended to “cure”.

    Unfortunately for us, no political party is going to have the guts to remove most of this legislation.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,988
    MattW said:

    System said:

    The farce of the Online Safety Act. YouGov tweets are now being censored – politicalbetting.com

    Last week the Online Safety Act came into force and as long predicted it is a bloody mess as we can see social media companies such as Twitter having to censor content regarding the act which is an Orwellian nightmare, the screenshot above shows a YouGov tweet having to be hidden.

    Read the full story here

    This is odd - presumably a Kiss Cam in the T&C?

    Otherwise, how could it be done?
    You've probably replied to the wrong message but kisscams are standard at American sports to fill in the interminable gaps in what passes for sport over there: baseball, NFL, monster trucks.

    So kisscams will no doubt be a standard rider in any stadium tickets.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178
    edited July 28

    Russia has also just banned advertising VPNs, and accessing extremist content.

    One of those things has not happened here, yet, but judging by today's and yesterday's threads, it is only a matter of time.

    Yes, I would not be surprised if a Starmer government made use of a VPN illegal in the UK within 5 years.

    Russia as you say has already restricted them, and China, Iran and Iraq ban or restrict VPN use as well
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,035
    Which PBer will be the first Gregor Fisher in 1984, happily off to be dealt with after his kids dob him in for wrongpost in his sleep?
    Sweepstake to be set up.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,642
    edited July 28
    Serious question: What are Bluesky doing with embeds?

    Arguably making Twitter a little more difficult to access may reduce the spread of some output from nutters and neo-fascists.

    And I assume the lobotomised hypocrites in our media will start yelling about Evil Starmer being to blame.

    I do wonder if some places will impose greater restrictions than necessary in order to raise a cloud of dust.

    I'm also not sure that his is the way, however.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,035
    HYUFD said:

    Russia has also just banned advertising VPNs, and accessing extremist content.

    One of those things has not happened here, yet, but judging by today's and yesterday's threads, it is only a matter of time.

    Yes, I would not be surprised if a Starmer government made use of a VPN illegal in the UK within 5 years.

    Russia as you say has already done so, as has China
    Im innocent Keir! On that day I was in *checks* Vanuatu
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,350
    TOPPING said:

    I mean Reddit asked me to verify my age the other day when I asked the internet how to do something fairly straightforward and most certainly non p*rn-related. What on earth is going on.

    I think Reddit has been age-restricting access to certain areas for yonks?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,641
    stodge said:

    TOPPING said:

    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.

    I wasn’t surprised.

    A couple of posters here were saying that it would only affect bad people.

    The real fun will come with the convenience of this. The police love an online crime - great for the stats. Long before “arrested for tweeting while setting fire to immigrants”, we had the crime of “posting nasty things about Chardonnay”.

    The next stage will be going after people for wrong think - there are plenty of opinions that’s are offensive to some people and whose truth is questionable.

    The following stage is options that are offensive - and their truth is an offence. “Your truth contradicts my religion.”

    After that we move to “it’s offensive to say that the chocolate ration increased from 20 grams to 15 grams. It actually increased to 14 grams.”

    I can hear people saying that Starmer & Co. won’t do that. But look at the polls. And who might come next.

    Just imagine Trump and his pals on the Supreme Court with this stuff to play with.
    Ah, we're back to the old chestnut of the freedom to offend versus freedom from offence. It's a tricky one - those who enjoy dishing it out in the name of their truth get very irate when their right to dish it out is challenged by those who would prefer not to have to listen to someone else's version of the truth yet can't express their version.

    My issue with where we are isn't about freedom of speech but fairness of speech - there are too many voices which don't get heard or, more accurately, a small group dominates the debate with repetitive argument from their truth.

    Is that small group in any way representative of opinion as a whole? No, it's certainly not the case here for example.

    It has always been the case money and time buy you a voice or voices - it's been the case in the printed media for decades and it's probably true in the online world as well.
    The NHS Fife case is in theory about transwomen using the women's changing room but from the Tribunal its actually about holding the 'wrong' view and being punished for it. The monstrous regiment of women at NHS Fife who set out to persecute Sandie Peggie did so, not because she was a bad nurse, not because she had harmed a patient or acted in a way that might have done so, they did it because she believes, as I do, that men CANNOT become women. And that view is heresy to some.

    And that is the greatest danger of all in the Online Safety Bill. Who sets what can be said? We see it on PB already - the chill hand of free speech suppressed (for totally understandable reasons).
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,955
    stodge said:

    TOPPING said:

    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.

    I wasn’t surprised.

    A couple of posters here were saying that it would only affect bad people.

    The real fun will come with the convenience of this. The police love an online crime - great for the stats. Long before “arrested for tweeting while setting fire to immigrants”, we had the crime of “posting nasty things about Chardonnay”.

    The next stage will be going after people for wrong think - there are plenty of opinions that’s are offensive to some people and whose truth is questionable.

    The following stage is options that are offensive - and their truth is an offence. “Your truth contradicts my religion.”

    After that we move to “it’s offensive to say that the chocolate ration increased from 20 grams to 15 grams. It actually increased to 14 grams.”

    I can hear people saying that Starmer & Co. won’t do that. But look at the polls. And who might come next.

    Just imagine Trump and his pals on the Supreme Court with this stuff to play with.
    Ah, we're back to the old chestnut of the freedom to offend versus freedom from offence. It's a tricky one - those who enjoy dishing it out in the name of their truth get very irate when their right to dish it out is challenged by those who would prefer not to have to listen to someone else's version of the truth yet can't express their version.

    My issue with where we are isn't about freedom of speech but fairness of speech - there are too many voices which don't get heard or, more accurately, a small group dominates the debate with repetitive argument from their truth.

    Is that small group in any way representative of opinion as a whole? No, it's certainly not the case here for example.

    It has always been the case money and time buy you a voice or voices - it's been the case in the printed media for decades and it's probably true in the online world as well.
    “Fairness of speech” runs into the problem that the authoritarian minded always believe that they are somehow oppressed and their Truth is besmirched.

    Hence in Stalin’s Russia, the desparate propaganda - to counteract the Wreckers, Saboteurs and Foreign Spies. Who were *everywhere*

    I could easily see Reform or Dried Fruit claiming that since The Media Industrial Complex is hostile to The Truth, expressing certain opinions comes under the Act.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,642
    Off topic:

    Do countries like Germany get charged rent for storing much of their bullion in Fort Knox?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,035

    stodge said:

    TOPPING said:

    On topic - surely no one is surprised that such a law would have these consequences.

    I wasn’t surprised.

    A couple of posters here were saying that it would only affect bad people.

    The real fun will come with the convenience of this. The police love an online crime - great for the stats. Long before “arrested for tweeting while setting fire to immigrants”, we had the crime of “posting nasty things about Chardonnay”.

    The next stage will be going after people for wrong think - there are plenty of opinions that’s are offensive to some people and whose truth is questionable.

    The following stage is options that are offensive - and their truth is an offence. “Your truth contradicts my religion.”

    After that we move to “it’s offensive to say that the chocolate ration increased from 20 grams to 15 grams. It actually increased to 14 grams.”

    I can hear people saying that Starmer & Co. won’t do that. But look at the polls. And who might come next.

    Just imagine Trump and his pals on the Supreme Court with this stuff to play with.
    Ah, we're back to the old chestnut of the freedom to offend versus freedom from offence. It's a tricky one - those who enjoy dishing it out in the name of their truth get very irate when their right to dish it out is challenged by those who would prefer not to have to listen to someone else's version of the truth yet can't express their version.

    My issue with where we are isn't about freedom of speech but fairness of speech - there are too many voices which don't get heard or, more accurately, a small group dominates the debate with repetitive argument from their truth.

    Is that small group in any way representative of opinion as a whole? No, it's certainly not the case here for example.

    It has always been the case money and time buy you a voice or voices - it's been the case in the printed media for decades and it's probably true in the online world as well.
    “Fairness of speech” runs into the problem that the authoritarian minded always believe that they are somehow oppressed and their Truth is besmirched.

    Hence in Stalin’s Russia, the desparate propaganda - to counteract the Wreckers, Saboteurs and Foreign Spies. Who were *everywhere*

    I could easily see Reform or Dried Fruit claiming that since The Media Industrial Complex is hostile to The Truth, expressing certain opinions comes under the Act.
    Harmthink Wrongvote treachery everywhere
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178
    TOPPING said:

    I mean Reddit asked me to verify my age the other day when I asked the internet how to do something fairly straightforward and most certainly non p*rn-related. What on earth is going on.

    Were you searching for Farage? I assume that would be a top target for a Labour government to restrict searches about at the moment
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,539

    Ha. As mentioned last thread, I can't currently send DMs on BlueSky unless I jump through some hoops following the introduction of the 'save the KIDS!' law.

    Politicians are impressively dense when it comes to technology. You can't use algorithms to make the internet safe for kids. They're not magic.

    Before my kids were 10 they were already installing apps on their iPads.

    Also, I have had a VPN for several years, so I can pay and watch sporting events not broadcast in the UK.
    Likewise

    And yet I was discussing things technological with some friends the other day and I mentioned my use of a VPN. Faces were generally a bit blank and one friend in particular looked mystified and said “what’s that? Visible pants or something?”

    He’d never heard of VPNs or what they do. He’s 58. He has a first class degree from… Imperial College

    It is incredible how untech-savvy even smart people can be. Hence our MPs enacting this fecking stupid bill, perhaps
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,698
    HYUFD said:

    TOPPING said:

    I mean Reddit asked me to verify my age the other day when I asked the internet how to do something fairly straightforward and most certainly non p*rn-related. What on earth is going on.

    Were you searching for Farage? I assume that would be a top target for a Labour government to restrict searches about at the moment
    I doubt it. The more people know about Farage the better, I'd have thought.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,247
    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wondered what the point of the new N Korean tourist resort was.

    Moscow starts direct flights to North Korea amid decline in options for Russian tourists
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/moscow-pyongyang-direct-flights-russia-to-north-korea-tourists

    Flights are once a month - I really wouldn't want to commit to 1 month in North Korea...
    Don't they like Dubai then. Plane loads of them.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,178

    Russia is literally descending into anarchy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7IyrpY8tF8

    TL/DR; Russia is losing its police. The army pays a lot more and attracts the same type of people; other, safer jobs pay as much. The police vacancy rate is 25 per cent nationally but 75 per cent in some, mainly rural, areas. This means police concentrate on serious crime and let more petty offences slide.

    Thank heavens that could never happen here.

    Oh, and in Russia vigilantes are filling the gap. We don't see that here, except in Northern Ireland and in Leon's prognostications. Yet.

    The army pays a lot more as your chances of coming back in a bodybag from Ukraine within a few months are pretty high
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,575
    "England have added fast-bowling all-rounder Jamie Overton to their squad for the decisive fifth Test against India at The Oval."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/clyj41kn9qvo
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,904
    Battlebus said:

    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    I wondered what the point of the new N Korean tourist resort was.

    Moscow starts direct flights to North Korea amid decline in options for Russian tourists
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/moscow-pyongyang-direct-flights-russia-to-north-korea-tourists

    Flights are once a month - I really wouldn't want to commit to 1 month in North Korea...
    Don't they like Dubai then. Plane loads of them.
    They can still go to Turkey, Ramzan Kadyrov apparently nearly drowned there recently.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,539
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump cheats

    @RoguePOTUSStaff

    This is the story of his life, right here.

    Caddy tosses a ball on the ground, then POTUS pretends it's the shot he made.

    https://x.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1949530230827204898

    For a guy who spends so much of his time on a golf course, you might have imagined he actually liked to play the game, but no...

    It is hilarious how many Trumpites underneath are claiming 'oh, it's a practice round,' 'oh, it was a legal drop in a relief zone,' 'most people do that sort of thing,' 'you know nothing about golf.'

    They really would excuse him if he were caught buggering a goat, wouldn't they?

    (Mind you, the most disgusting thing about that video is he's using a buggy at Turnberry, which is flatter than a snooker table.)
    There are also at least 3 separate videos of him cheating on the same round
    Good morning

    His golf swing is farcical, he could not do a round of golf without a buggy, and as for his handicap who knows

    He is only deceiving himself and quite frankly it's just a circus of stupidity

    Mind you, he seems to have charmed UVL in welcoming 15% tariffs plus billions of dollars worth of US energy and armaments from him thereby making Europe dependent on Trump's US for energy and defence security
    Has Europe committed to doing anything they weren't already going to do ?
    The FT is full of Europeans wailing that Trump outfoxed them and then steam rollered them. Amazing what this low-IQ golf cheater manages to do. He’s like the Chauncey Gardner of politics
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,035
    Andy_JS said:

    "England have added fast-bowling all-rounder Jamie Overton to their squad for the decisive fifth Test against India at The Oval."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/clyj41kn9qvo

    They'll need more than one bowler
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,366
    HYUFD said:

    TOPPING said:

    I mean Reddit asked me to verify my age the other day when I asked the internet how to do something fairly straightforward and most certainly non p*rn-related. What on earth is going on.

    Were you searching for Farage? I assume that would be a top target for a Labour government to restrict searches about at the moment
    TBH, I wouldn't have though the Tories would object to that either!


    Morning all!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,118
    HYUFD said:

    TOPPING said:

    I mean Reddit asked me to verify my age the other day when I asked the internet how to do something fairly straightforward and most certainly non p*rn-related. What on earth is going on.

    Were you searching for Farage? I assume that would be a top target for a Labour government to restrict searches about at the moment
    I was not. It was notably innocuous. Can't remember exactly.
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