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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279
    TimS said:

    I hate to say this but.

    I’ve been chatting this evening with AI. I think it’s sentient.

    Did it talk about the final solution?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    If you were a real politico you would have one of those rare collector items, the Labour racist mug.
    I do!!! haha
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    If you were a real politico you would have one of those rare collector items, the Labour racist mug.
    I've actually just bought something from Lab online. A tea towel with the old clause 4 wording on it. I'd forgotten how beautiful that passage was. Pretty sad that it's been reduced to a tea towel.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    The photo on the wall is very odd. Appears to be children sitting on a bed with some large pies behind them.

    So maybe the pies are famous?

    But then again I expect one of the drink bottles is one of the last few remaining from some historical, probably neo-Nazi, figure's cavern?

    No

    But good try. Those are actually impoverished Coptic Christian girls in the weird ancient mystical town of Akhmim - where "chemistry" ("Al-khmim") was born, and hermeticism, and maybe much else - in Middle Egypt. I was the only westerner there. They were selling bread from the bonnet of an old American car, next to their houses made out of cardboard

    The object is to the left...
    There's a photo frame on the shelf, but it is too fuzzy for me to see clearly.

    So, I give in and will return to the footy and extra girl time.
    It's not a photo in a frame and if you actually magnify it far enough on the PB website, you can just about see what it is

    I promise this is worth it, if only for amusingly stupidity
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 159
    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,683
    edited July 17
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    If you were a real politico you would have one of those rare collector items, the Labour racist mug.
    I've actually just bought something from Lab online. A tea towel with the old clause 4 wording on it. I'd forgotten how beautiful that passage was. Pretty sad that it's been reduced to a tea towel.
    Is the number of humans slaughtered by communism on the obverse?
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 159
    Looks like a house…
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,143

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Didn't Leon or his doppelganger go to Cambodia in a professional capacity a while back?

    (The whole Pol Pot thing was the first really foreign bit of news I remember making an impact on me, dedicated suburbanite that I am. There was a Blue Peter Appeal, wasn't there?)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Most of what you post here, incessantly, has a clear racist subtext.

    Several times you’ve been caught with material about prominent racists in photos you have posted for some other purpose.

    Occam’s razor.
    It is always a joke but you are too stupid to get it. That's what it is

    The fact you are too stupid to get it just makes me want to do it more, because it amuses me. That's it. This probably does not reflect well on me, I am baiting a silly old man with no friends but a dog, but hey there you go. We're none of us perfect - especially online. Soz boz
    Judging the intelligence of your own posts is a mug’s game. I suggest you leave it to those with rather more insight, or indeed, IQ.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    edited July 17

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Oh very close! Very very close

    In fact I think this wins the Moldovan Red

    What you are looking at is a framed and inscribed "Piece of Pol Pot's Patio"

    At least 20 years ago I was in Cambodia, not long after Pol Pot died, and I heard his last house - in the middle of the weird jungle enclave, where the Khmer Rouge ruled into the 1990s - was now a shrine, albeit forgotten by most

    So I decided to to go there. It was incredibly remote in the jungle by the eastern Thai border and it took me two days and many rides and in the end a moped ride through the rainforest but at length I found Pol Pot's last house (actually a grim bloodstained bunker), with a small Thai spirit-house shrine next to it, lost in the fetid steaming greenery. It was otherwise utterly deserted. As my moped guy went for a pee in the heat I realised I was actually standing on Pol Pot's Patio, and the mad alliteration was too appealing to resist

    I "stole" several pieces. One of them is in that frame. A Piece of Pol Pot's Patio
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Lawyers are seeking to use human rights laws to force the Government to bring tens of thousands of Afghans to the UK after their names were leaked by a British soldier.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/17/lawyers-use-echr-to-force-uk-into-accepting-more-afghans/
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Felix Baumgartner dead at 56: Wingsuit daredevil who jumped from space is killed in paragliding crash after his craft ploughed into Italian hotel swimming pool leaving woman injured
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251
    carnforth said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    If you were a real politico you would have one of those rare collector items, the Labour racist mug.
    I've actually just bought something from Lab online. A tea towel with the old clause 4 wording on it. I'd forgotten how beautiful that passage was. Pretty sad that it's been reduced to a tea towel.
    Is the number of humans slaughtered by communsism on the obverse?
    Yes of course. And a photo of the skulls from Pol Pot's killing fields. Because that's where left of centre politics invariably leads.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,169
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    If you were a real politico you would have one of those rare collector items, the Labour racist mug.
    I've actually just bought something from Lab online. A tea towel with the old clause 4 wording on it. I'd forgotten how beautiful that passage was. Pretty sad that it's been reduced to a tea towel.
    There's a whole shop selling left wing tea-towels if you really like that sort of thing:

    https://radicalteatowel.co.uk/ww2-80-years/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,271

    Disorder erupts in Epping following the sexual assault of a young girl by an illegal migrant
    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/1945923386867388426

    There's been days of peaceful protest so something has changed.

    Looks like the police ran over a protestor,

    https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1945929144816025814

    Strangely they are never that aggressive with the JSO / XR. They go around asking for tea and coffee orders.
    These LTN protests are getting out of hand.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251
    edited July 17
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    If you were a real politico you would have one of those rare collector items, the Labour racist mug.
    I've actually just bought something from Lab online. A tea towel with the old clause 4 wording on it. I'd forgotten how beautiful that passage was. Pretty sad that it's been reduced to a tea towel.
    There's a whole shop selling left wing tea-towels if you really like that sort of thing:

    https://radicalteatowel.co.uk/ww2-80-years/
    Well I've got one now, Foxy, but thank you.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,120
    Do the new mayoral development orders in Labour's new English devolution bill go some way to satisfy @BartholomewRoberts ' ideas on zoning to improve planning decisions?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    edited July 17

    Lawyers are seeking to use human rights laws to force the Government to bring tens of thousands of Afghans to the UK after their names were leaked by a British soldier.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/17/lawyers-use-echr-to-force-uk-into-accepting-more-afghans/


    I tell you again. This story is, potentially, the first run on Northern Rock Bank
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,271
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    Jeezo, you're right. Do we need to refer Leon to Prevent?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited July 17
    Leon said:

    Lawyers are seeking to use human rights laws to force the Government to bring tens of thousands of Afghans to the UK after their names were leaked by a British soldier.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/17/lawyers-use-echr-to-force-uk-into-accepting-more-afghans/


    I tell you again. This story is, potentially, the first run on Northern Rock Bank
    It's a good job the government will be represented by somebody who has a strong record in
    ..checks notes....standing up for Afghan rights to sue the UK government.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    Just fifteen minutes to decide this, or penalties
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    God, I've tried, but I just don't give a fuck about women's football
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,712
    Scott_xP said:

    TimS said:

    I hate to say this but.

    I’ve been chatting this evening with AI. I think it’s sentient.

    Did it talk about the final solution?
    The penultimate solution
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 159
    Leon said:

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Oh very close! Very very close

    In fact I think this wins the Moldovan Red

    What you are looking at is a framed and inscribed "Piece of Pol Pot's Patio"

    At least 20 years ago I was in Cambodia, not long after Pol Pot died, and I heard his last house - in the middle of the weird jungle enclave, where the Khmer Rouge ruled into the 1990s - was now a shrine, albeit forgotten by most

    So I decided to to go there. It was incredibly remote in the jungle by the eastern Thai border and it took me two days and many rides and in the end a moped ride through the rainforest but at length I found Pol Pot's last house (actually a grim bloodstained bunker), with a small Thai spirit-house shrine next to it, lost in the fetid steaming greenery. It was otherwise utterly deserted. As my moped guy went for a pee in the heat I realised I was actually standing on Pol Pot's Patio, and the mad alliteration was too appealing to resist

    I "stole" several pieces. One of them is in that frame. A Piece of Pol Pot's Patio
    I’ll be honest - this was not on my bingo card for today.
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    I think I still have a copy of item 4 somewhere. I read International Relations at university and terrorism was a module. Item 4 was (bizarrely) a ‘set text’.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Stereodog said:

    Leon said:

    Disorder erupts in Epping following the sexual assault of a young girl by an illegal migrant
    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/1945923386867388426

    There's been days of peaceful protest so something has changed.

    Looks like the police ran over a protestor,

    https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1945929144816025814

    Strangely they are never that aggressive with the JSO / XR. They go around asking for tea and coffee orders.
    Two tier policing pure and simple.

    Can you imagine the police force in 2025 driving like that at a "community" protest of ANY section of the "community" that wasn't WWC British.
    No
    It's not entirely a community protest. Tommy Robinson's social media coordinator is filming there. I'm not condoning overaggressive policing I'm just saying that there's a reason why the police are more on edge than they would be for other protests.
    It is mainly bussed in far right and SWP counters co
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Leon said:

    God, I've tried, but I just don't give a fuck about women's football

    I really struggle with men's international football these days. So often it's negative , it's turid, and isn't half the quality of the Champions League.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279
    Leon said:

    God, I've tried, but I just don't give a fuck about women's football

    FTFY
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,712
    HYUFD said:

    Stereodog said:

    Leon said:

    Disorder erupts in Epping following the sexual assault of a young girl by an illegal migrant
    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/1945923386867388426

    There's been days of peaceful protest so something has changed.

    Looks like the police ran over a protestor,

    https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1945929144816025814

    Strangely they are never that aggressive with the JSO / XR. They go around asking for tea and coffee orders.
    Two tier policing pure and simple.

    Can you imagine the police force in 2025 driving like that at a "community" protest of ANY section of the "community" that wasn't WWC British.
    No
    It's not entirely a community protest. Tommy Robinson's social media coordinator is filming there. I'm not condoning overaggressive policing I'm just saying that there's a reason why the police are more on edge than they would be for other protests.
    It is mainly bussed in far right and SWP counters co
    It would be fun to be a bussed in protester. Do you reckon they sing boy-scout songs in the coach on the way home?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,683
    edited July 17

    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.

    School tea towels with 30 self portraits, one drawn by each child in the class, were a big thing when I were a lad.

    Sadly all novetly tea towel are cotton. When, of course, the only acceptable material is Irish or Belgian linen.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,794
    Episode two of season three of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, wow it is nearly as good as sex.

    Banging 80s tune in it as well.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,120
    carnforth said:

    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.

    School tea towels with 30 self portraits, one drawn by each child in the class, were a big thing when I were a lad.
    I had one of those by my nephew's class. His class were not packed with artistic talent.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    Jeezo, you're right. Do we need to refer Leon to Prevent?
    I am sure Sir Keir will have people monitoring Leon anyway as one of his main opponents
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Leon said:

    God, I've tried, but I just don't give a fuck about women's football

    You might looking at some of the Swedish blondes
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922

    Leon said:

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Oh very close! Very very close

    In fact I think this wins the Moldovan Red

    What you are looking at is a framed and inscribed "Piece of Pol Pot's Patio"

    At least 20 years ago I was in Cambodia, not long after Pol Pot died, and I heard his last house - in the middle of the weird jungle enclave, where the Khmer Rouge ruled into the 1990s - was now a shrine, albeit forgotten by most

    So I decided to to go there. It was incredibly remote in the jungle by the eastern Thai border and it took me two days and many rides and in the end a moped ride through the rainforest but at length I found Pol Pot's last house (actually a grim bloodstained bunker), with a small Thai spirit-house shrine next to it, lost in the fetid steaming greenery. It was otherwise utterly deserted. As my moped guy went for a pee in the heat I realised I was actually standing on Pol Pot's Patio, and the mad alliteration was too appealing to resist

    I "stole" several pieces. One of them is in that frame. A Piece of Pol Pot's Patio
    I’ll be honest - this was not on my bingo card for today.
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    I think I still have a copy of item 4 somewhere. I read International Relations at university and terrorism was a module. Item 4 was (bizarrely) a ‘set text’.
    Could be a legitimate reason as long as you only read it in the library
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009

    Leon said:

    God, I've tried, but I just don't give a fuck about women's football

    I really struggle with men's international football these days. So often it's negative , it's turid, and isn't half the quality of the Champions League.
    yup
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,794
    Donald Trump set to open US retirement market to crypto investments

    President preparing executive order to allow 401k plans to tap broad pool of alternative assets


    Donald Trump is preparing to open the $9tn US retirement market to cryptocurrency investments, gold, and private equity in a move that would spur a radical shift in the way Americans’ savings are managed.

    Trump is expected to sign an executive order as soon as this week that would open up 401k plans to alternative investments beyond traditional stocks and bonds, according to three people who have been briefed on the president’s plans.

    These investments would run a broad spectrum of asset classes, from digital assets to metals and funds focused on corporate takeovers, private loans and infrastructure deals.

    The executive order would instruct Washington regulatory agencies to investigate the remaining hurdles needed to allow for such alternative investments to be included in professionally managed funds used by 401k savers, these people said.

    “President Trump is committed to restoring prosperity for everyday Americans and safeguarding their economic future. No decisions should be deemed official, however, unless they come from President Trump himself,” the White House said in a statement to the Financial Times.

    In the US, 401k plans are among the most popular ways working Americans save for retirement, allowing them to invest a portion of their salaries in publicly traded securities tax-free. But virtually all such investments are housed in public stock and bond mutual funds.

    The executive order would accelerate Trump’s push to bring crypto investments to the mainstream, after his administration has dropped prominent enforcement actions against large digital asset-trading groups.


    https://www.ft.com/content/07906211-5ab8-4917-bcad-5397c0bc3170
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,282

    Foxy said:

    The knuckle draggers must have a short memory. The one thing Keith will take swift action on is "far right" riots. If you are going to have a ruck these days, you at very least make sure you turn up all in black. not start smashing up a police van with your face clearly visible and tats out.

    Yaxley-Lennon's mob attack the police at the top of a Stella. They are the people who used to be football hooligans. They want a fight.
    One thing that is noticeable is that there is a lot of youngsters. I am not sure Tommy Robinson and his old EDL mates are really the ones involved these days, most are fat, coked out 40 and 50 year olds. The footage from this evening its teenagers and buff 20 somethings. The new football hooligans.
    That's sad, there's something funny about a fat middle-aged cokehead throwing a bottle at the police lines while clearly identifiable and with their ankle tag showing.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,950

    Leon said:

    God, I've tried, but I just don't give a fuck about women's football

    I really struggle with men's international football these days. So often it's negative , it's turid, and isn't half the quality of the Champions League.
    The quality isn't as good, but international football is less predictable (other than England (men) not winning, of course).
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 159
    carnforth said:

    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.

    School tea towels with 30 self portraits, one drawn by each child in the class, were a big thing when I were a lad.

    Sadly all novetly tea towel are cotton. When, of course, the only acceptable material is Irish or Belgian linen.
    They still are ‘a thing’. But they must not, under any circumstances, be used. They must sit in a drawer in a sideboard alongside other mementos and be ‘rediscovered’ whenever you (or a family member) is desperately searching for something else that you haven’t used in more than ten years.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,090
    HYUFD said:

    Stereodog said:

    Leon said:

    Disorder erupts in Epping following the sexual assault of a young girl by an illegal migrant
    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/1945923386867388426

    There's been days of peaceful protest so something has changed.

    Looks like the police ran over a protestor,

    https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1945929144816025814

    Strangely they are never that aggressive with the JSO / XR. They go around asking for tea and coffee orders.
    Two tier policing pure and simple.

    Can you imagine the police force in 2025 driving like that at a "community" protest of ANY section of the "community" that wasn't WWC British.
    No
    It's not entirely a community protest. Tommy Robinson's social media coordinator is filming there. I'm not condoning overaggressive policing I'm just saying that there's a reason why the police are more on edge than they would be for other protests.
    It is mainly bussed in far right and SWP counters co
    Literally just heard one of the 'citizen journalists' saying that they're off to Norwich over the weekend for another migrant hotel protest. I wonder where these people get the money sometimes.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    edited July 17
    Wasted chance, there. Penalties loom

    And so it is
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922

    Donald Trump set to open US retirement market to crypto investments

    President preparing executive order to allow 401k plans to tap broad pool of alternative assets


    Donald Trump is preparing to open the $9tn US retirement market to cryptocurrency investments, gold, and private equity in a move that would spur a radical shift in the way Americans’ savings are managed.

    Trump is expected to sign an executive order as soon as this week that would open up 401k plans to alternative investments beyond traditional stocks and bonds, according to three people who have been briefed on the president’s plans.

    These investments would run a broad spectrum of asset classes, from digital assets to metals and funds focused on corporate takeovers, private loans and infrastructure deals.

    The executive order would instruct Washington regulatory agencies to investigate the remaining hurdles needed to allow for such alternative investments to be included in professionally managed funds used by 401k savers, these people said.

    “President Trump is committed to restoring prosperity for everyday Americans and safeguarding their economic future. No decisions should be deemed official, however, unless they come from President Trump himself,” the White House said in a statement to the Financial Times.

    In the US, 401k plans are among the most popular ways working Americans save for retirement, allowing them to invest a portion of their salaries in publicly traded securities tax-free. But virtually all such investments are housed in public stock and bond mutual funds.

    The executive order would accelerate Trump’s push to bring crypto investments to the mainstream, after his administration has dropped prominent enforcement actions against large digital asset-trading groups.


    https://www.ft.com/content/07906211-5ab8-4917-bcad-5397c0bc3170

    You might get a Caribbean cruise or you might lose your pension
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722

    Donald Trump set to open US retirement market to crypto investments

    https://www.ft.com/content/07906211-5ab8-4917-bcad-5397c0bc3170

    So that is why its been pumping like crazy recently....
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,052

    carnforth said:

    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.

    School tea towels with 30 self portraits, one drawn by each child in the class, were a big thing when I were a lad.
    I had one of those by my nephew's class. His class were not packed with artistic talent.
    Still, you didn't need to burn it.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,683
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwnx207134o

    "A West Midlands MP has been placed under investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner.

    Neil Shastri-Hurst, Conservative MP for Solihull West and Shirley, will be investigated in his capacity as chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Defence Technology.

    The matter relates to due diligence of funding provided to the group's secretariat."
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited July 17
    ‘Worse than Covid’: hospitality bosses blame Reeves’ budget for UK downturn

    With data suggesting the sector has been hit hardest, some employers can’t afford to recruit summer workers

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jul/17/worse-for-hospitality-than-covid-bosses-blame-reeves-budget-for-uk-downturn
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 159
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Oh very close! Very very close

    In fact I think this wins the Moldovan Red

    What you are looking at is a framed and inscribed "Piece of Pol Pot's Patio"

    At least 20 years ago I was in Cambodia, not long after Pol Pot died, and I heard his last house - in the middle of the weird jungle enclave, where the Khmer Rouge ruled into the 1990s - was now a shrine, albeit forgotten by most

    So I decided to to go there. It was incredibly remote in the jungle by the eastern Thai border and it took me two days and many rides and in the end a moped ride through the rainforest but at length I found Pol Pot's last house (actually a grim bloodstained bunker), with a small Thai spirit-house shrine next to it, lost in the fetid steaming greenery. It was otherwise utterly deserted. As my moped guy went for a pee in the heat I realised I was actually standing on Pol Pot's Patio, and the mad alliteration was too appealing to resist

    I "stole" several pieces. One of them is in that frame. A Piece of Pol Pot's Patio
    I’ll be honest - this was not on my bingo card for today.
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    I think I still have a copy of item 4 somewhere. I read International Relations at university and terrorism was a module. Item 4 was (bizarrely) a ‘set text’.
    Could be a legitimate reason as long as you only read it in the library
    It was the 1990s. Only available in ‘short loan’ so had to read it overnight or book it out on a Friday for return on Monday. Most of us just photocopied it for later reading.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,090
    carnforth said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwnx207134o

    "A West Midlands MP has been placed under investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner.

    Neil Shastri-Hurst, Conservative MP for Solihull West and Shirley, will be investigated in his capacity as chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Defence Technology.

    The matter relates to due diligence of funding provided to the group's secretariat."

    APPGs are a massive scandal waiting to happen. They have a veneer of Parliamentary respectability but in reality they are entirely informal with few regulations. Also because they have no funding they often rely on the richest stakeholder group to provide the secretariat.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    edited July 17
    One up after the first two penalties

    But our second is saved

    1:1

    As is our third

    Sweden hit the bar. Still 1:1

    And our fourth is saved as well

    2:1 to Sweden

    2:2 but Sweden just need to score to win
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    https://bsky.app/profile/amandalitman.bsky.social/post/3lu6ug4tn7c24
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,292
    Epic match, this.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,683

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Oh very close! Very very close

    In fact I think this wins the Moldovan Red

    What you are looking at is a framed and inscribed "Piece of Pol Pot's Patio"

    At least 20 years ago I was in Cambodia, not long after Pol Pot died, and I heard his last house - in the middle of the weird jungle enclave, where the Khmer Rouge ruled into the 1990s - was now a shrine, albeit forgotten by most

    So I decided to to go there. It was incredibly remote in the jungle by the eastern Thai border and it took me two days and many rides and in the end a moped ride through the rainforest but at length I found Pol Pot's last house (actually a grim bloodstained bunker), with a small Thai spirit-house shrine next to it, lost in the fetid steaming greenery. It was otherwise utterly deserted. As my moped guy went for a pee in the heat I realised I was actually standing on Pol Pot's Patio, and the mad alliteration was too appealing to resist

    I "stole" several pieces. One of them is in that frame. A Piece of Pol Pot's Patio
    I’ll be honest - this was not on my bingo card for today.
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    I think I still have a copy of item 4 somewhere. I read International Relations at university and terrorism was a module. Item 4 was (bizarrely) a ‘set text’.
    Could be a legitimate reason as long as you only read it in the library
    It was the 1990s. Only available in ‘short loan’ so had to read it overnight or book it out on a Friday for return on Monday. Most of us just photocopied it for later reading.
    Everyone is my school had an electronic copy in the 1990s. We turned out fine.

    It's a charge tacked on to a prosecution when they aren't sure of a conviction on the real charges. See also: affray.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279
    @oliverdarcy.bsky.social‬

    Scoop: The Wall Street Journal is working on a story highlighting Donald Trump’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein—but is said to be facing pressure from the White House, with Trump himself calling Editor-In-Chief Emma Tucker to object.

    https://bsky.app/profile/oliverdarcy.bsky.social/post/3lu6uwgei6c27
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,169
    IanB2 said:

    One up after the first two penalties

    But our second is saved

    1:1

    Goalies going the right way every time, for both.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,271
    carnforth said:

    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.

    School tea towels with 30 self portraits, one drawn by each child in the class, were a big thing when I were a lad.

    Sadly all novetly tea towel are cotton. When, of course, the only acceptable material is Irish or Belgian linen.
    Still got a few of mine.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    Sweden miss!

    Sudden death
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,169
    IanB2 said:

    Sweden miss!

    Sudden death

    Shocking penalties from both
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    edited July 17
    Again, Sweden just need to score to win. But miss (saved)

    Sudden death again

    Now Sweden need to score, or lose

    Over the top - England win!
  • glwglw Posts: 10,463
    Worst penalties ever?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,169
    We might be here all night...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,512
    Terrible penalties
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Is this the worst shootout in history?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,305
    Utterly appalling penalties. Neither team deserve to go through at this rate.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,018
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sweden miss!

    Sudden death

    Shocking penalties from both
    No one seems able to score. It's Southgate all over times ten.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,463
    That's what you call nicking one.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,169
    I don't think we deserved that!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,512
    Swedes unlucky. Much the better side.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,018
    Bugger me. We won!
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,305
    Hard to celebrate that. Hope the Semi Final goes better, lol.
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 159
    carnforth said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    It’s either the bottle on the floor between the chair and the bookcase or it’s the framed item on the top shelf. My money is on the frame. It’s too grainy to see clearly which is why my eyes are telling me it says “Pot’s Palace”.

    In which case… Leon’s collecting mementos from Cambodia, in which case he has a wild story to share about 24 hours in Phnom Penh.

    No offence intended @Leon.

    Oh very close! Very very close

    In fact I think this wins the Moldovan Red

    What you are looking at is a framed and inscribed "Piece of Pol Pot's Patio"

    At least 20 years ago I was in Cambodia, not long after Pol Pot died, and I heard his last house - in the middle of the weird jungle enclave, where the Khmer Rouge ruled into the 1990s - was now a shrine, albeit forgotten by most

    So I decided to to go there. It was incredibly remote in the jungle by the eastern Thai border and it took me two days and many rides and in the end a moped ride through the rainforest but at length I found Pol Pot's last house (actually a grim bloodstained bunker), with a small Thai spirit-house shrine next to it, lost in the fetid steaming greenery. It was otherwise utterly deserted. As my moped guy went for a pee in the heat I realised I was actually standing on Pol Pot's Patio, and the mad alliteration was too appealing to resist

    I "stole" several pieces. One of them is in that frame. A Piece of Pol Pot's Patio
    I’ll be honest - this was not on my bingo card for today.
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s the Bhutanese silk in question. Perhaps seeing it will offer ideas


    lol, the cheeky book.
    reminds us of his ‘young Hitler’ screensaver in an earlier post.

    Equally unsurprising is the apparent paucity of books, with the empty shelves
    Ah, baited again, you're so easy

    There is actually a political object in that photo, a deeply political object. I wonder if anyone can spot it

    The answer is - I promise - genuinely hilarious and weird
    I am serious. There is a remarkable political object in this photo. It's right there

    And no, it's not the Enoch book designed to wind up zoophile dimwits like @IanB2

    Look again! If you can find it and name it I will buy you a bottle of Purcari Negru, next time we meet in Moldova
    Because we ordinary folk all have an Enoch Powell book hanging about to wind people up in a photo.
    It will amaze you, because you;re not very clever, but I also have

    1. A copy of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A (rather admiring) biography of Che Guevara

    3. A copy of Ten Days That Shook The World

    4. The Anarchist's Cookbook

    And so on, and so on. I am a politics geek that studied philosophy that now writes about politics. I know. Amazing. I imagine you are the same with widget surveying
    Possession of item four is technically illegal, people have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for having a copy. I would destroy it
    I think I still have a copy of item 4 somewhere. I read International Relations at university and terrorism was a module. Item 4 was (bizarrely) a ‘set text’.
    Could be a legitimate reason as long as you only read it in the library
    It was the 1990s. Only available in ‘short loan’ so had to read it overnight or book it out on a Friday for return on Monday. Most of us just photocopied it for later reading.
    Everyone is my school had an electronic copy in the 1990s. We turned out fine.

    It's a charge tacked on to a prosecution when they aren't sure of a conviction on the real charges. See also: affray.
    St Andrews was (still) blissfully in the 1970s when it came to technology in the 1990s. Giant photocopiers with credits were cutting edge.

    God I miss those days.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,304
    A draw was probably the fairest result.

    At least whichever losing team had a whole bunch of them sharing the blame, not just one like Southgate
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,292
    edited July 17

    Swedes unlucky. Much the better side.

    Sport would be boring if the best team always won.

    India were probably the best team at Lords.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,312
    edited July 17
    Scott_xP said:

    @oliverdarcy.bsky.social‬

    Scoop: The Wall Street Journal is working on a story highlighting Donald Trump’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein—but is said to be facing pressure from the White House, with Trump himself calling Editor-In-Chief Emma Tucker to object.

    https://bsky.app/profile/oliverdarcy.bsky.social/post/3lu6uwgei6c27

    He really ought to do so in the style of a limerick.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251
    Bit jammy. Touch of 'name on the trophy' perhaps.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,292
    edited July 17
    Foxy said:

    Ratters said:

    I would argue the group most widely discriminated against is not a minority, but most definitely is on this forum.

    Yes, and almost always obviously a woman, so gets a different form of discrimination than less obvious characteristics.

    I think the former of discrimination most ubiquitous, yet least remarked upon is social class. While the physical features are generally subtle, British people are very adept at seeking out clues. Pygmalion shows that these can be taught to enable someone to "pass" as a different class, but it ain't easy.
    Short men are probably the most discriminated-against group in society.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,512
    Andy_JS said:

    Swedes unlucky. Much the better side.

    Sport would be boring if the best team always won.

    India were probably the best team at Lords.
    Not sure I agree about that. Demonstrably better in the second test, but I thought both were pretty even at Lords and the toss decided it in the end.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited July 17
    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    The viral video from recent Coldplay concert where they put up a couple on the kiss-cam and they tried to hide their face, so of course it went viral and it transpires that the CEO is having an affair with head of HR.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    Married geezer (ceo of his company) caught at Coldplay smooching his head of hr on the jumbotron by Chris Martin
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714

    Donald Trump set to open US retirement market to crypto investments

    President preparing executive order to allow 401k plans to tap broad pool of alternative assets


    Donald Trump is preparing to open the $9tn US retirement market to cryptocurrency investments, gold, and private equity in a move that would spur a radical shift in the way Americans’ savings are managed.

    Trump is expected to sign an executive order as soon as this week that would open up 401k plans to alternative investments beyond traditional stocks and bonds, according to three people who have been briefed on the president’s plans.

    These investments would run a broad spectrum of asset classes, from digital assets to metals and funds focused on corporate takeovers, private loans and infrastructure deals.

    The executive order would instruct Washington regulatory agencies to investigate the remaining hurdles needed to allow for such alternative investments to be included in professionally managed funds used by 401k savers, these people said.

    “President Trump is committed to restoring prosperity for everyday Americans and safeguarding their economic future. No decisions should be deemed official, however, unless they come from President Trump himself,” the White House said in a statement to the Financial Times.

    In the US, 401k plans are among the most popular ways working Americans save for retirement, allowing them to invest a portion of their salaries in publicly traded securities tax-free. But virtually all such investments are housed in public stock and bond mutual funds.

    The executive order would accelerate Trump’s push to bring crypto investments to the mainstream, after his administration has dropped prominent enforcement actions against large digital asset-trading groups.


    https://www.ft.com/content/07906211-5ab8-4917-bcad-5397c0bc3170

    The bit that really seems to be missing from this is that the higher the price of Bitcoin, the more energy it is worth expending on Bitcoin mining.

    Bitcoin is like the inverse of a productive asset because the whole nature of bitcoin mining, where bitcoins are given out for solving cryptographic puzzles, involves money having to be spent on vast amounts of energy to do that. The last time I saw it, the energy used by bitcoin mining was that of a small country. So, of course, as the bitcoin price gets higher and higher, so too do the rewards for mining and therefore so does the mining difficulty and the amount of energy expended on it.

    So the number one consequence of making crypto available to 401(k) investment schemes is going to be that energy becomes more expensive which is going to be shitty for average Americans.

    And of course, ironically, it makes solar more attractive and more economic.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,324
    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    It’s meming..

    https://x.com/bmay/status/1945906757210874001?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,312
    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Ratters said:

    I would argue the group most widely discriminated against is not a minority, but most definitely is on this forum.

    Yes, and almost always obviously a woman, so gets a different form of discrimination than less obvious characteristics.

    I think the former of discrimination most ubiquitous, yet least remarked upon is social class. While the physical features are generally subtle, British people are very adept at seeking out clues. Pygmalion shows that these can be taught to enable someone to "pass" as a different class, but it ain't easy.
    Short men are probably the most discriminated-against group in society.
    Yeah. I remember all the voting papers on the top shelf scandals.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279
    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    https://x.com/t0nit0ne/status/1945801768937333147
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    Married geezer (ceo of his company) caught at Coldplay smooching his head of hr on the jumbotron by Chris Martin
    He went to a Coldplay concert, so he really deserves all he gets.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,512
    kinabalu said:

    Bit jammy. Touch of 'name on the trophy' perhaps.

    I think that's a comfort blanket in tournament football when you are playing shit and will not be winning it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited July 17
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    Married geezer (ceo of his company) caught at Coldplay smooching his head of hr on the jumbotron by Chris Martin
    I mean imagine the embarrassment of being caught at a Coldplay concert....that its....the fact you you have a mistress, total non-story.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Mom, how did we get so rich?"

    "Your dad hugged an HR lady at a Coldplay concert and I got 50% from the divorce"

    I'm probably being an idiot, but I don't get the reference.
    Married geezer (ceo of his company) caught at Coldplay smooching his head of hr on the jumbotron by Chris Martin
    He went to a Coldplay concert, so he really deserves all he gets.
    Imagine Chris Martin ending your marriage. The shame.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279
    @vincemancini.bsky.social‬

    I always wondered who listened to Coldplay, and as it turns out the perfect answer was right there (a software CEO cheating on his wife with the head of HR).
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,305

    Do the new mayoral development orders in Labour's new English devolution bill go some way to satisfy @BartholomewRoberts ' ideas on zoning to improve planning decisions?

    From what I've read, no. It is tinkering around the edges and not zoning.

    I'd love to be wrong there, but AFAIK permission is still needed rather than automatic if you are in the right zone and to the right standards.

    Tinkering at the edges fast-tracking some orders may be better than nothing, but it is not zoning.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,305

    I had no idea novelty tea towels were still a thing.

    We have one with our kids on it.

    A gimmick the school can make money on selling, which parents happily buy, why would it not be a thing?
  • I don't know what's more disturbing..England's penalties or Tim Montgomerie's facial breakdancing on Sky's press preview..🥴
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,852
    Scott_xP said:

    @vincemancini.bsky.social‬

    I always wondered who listened to Coldplay, and as it turns out the perfect answer was right there (a software CEO cheating on his wife with the head of HR).

    The new item i saw said 'Chief People Officer'.

    Not a scientist then.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,852
    Foxy said:

    I don't think we deserved that!

    Both sides took terrible penalties.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,279

    Scott_xP said:

    @vincemancini.bsky.social‬

    I always wondered who listened to Coldplay, and as it turns out the perfect answer was right there (a software CEO cheating on his wife with the head of HR).

    The new item i saw said 'Chief People Officer'.

    Not a scientist then.
    @heyitsshivi_

    What does HR actually do?

    @AmeshiaCross

    In this case the CEO
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