Hypothetical polls are still bobbins – politicalbetting.com
18% of Britons say they are likely to consider voting for a new left-wing party led by Jeremy CorbynHowever, this is less than would consider voting for the existing major parties and has caveats… ?yougov.co.uk/politics/art…
Surely the choice of the word “consider” doesn’t help. “considering” doesn’t just mean that you are considering positively - it could also be “yes, I considered voting for Corbyn and my consideration was that there is no way in hell I would vote for him.”
How many people did they ask if they had considered Corbyn weren’t viewing considering as maybe voting for him but just being normal and looking at all options and writing off a number of them immediately.
Would it be better to have asked “on a scale of one to ten would you possibly vote for Jeremy Corbyn”.
49 overs must be near enough the fewest overs ever bowled in a non rain affected test before tea. Surely a big fine and points deduction for India incoming.
49 overs must be near enough the fewest overs ever bowled in a non rain affected test before tea. Surely a big fine and points deduction for India incoming.
In the 2nd Test England had bowled 53 overs by Tea, and in the 1st Test it was 51 overs.
I don't think 49 overs is likely to be unprecedented.
I'm hard pressed to spot the precipitous drop-off (in March 2018?) TSE mentions - it seems to be a pretty constant decline.
I think I should be clearer, his ratings had been lower before but recovered but they never really recovered after Salisbury and eventually saw him become the worst ever LOTO in Ipsos history at that point.
I'm hard pressed to spot the precipitous drop-off (in March 2018?) TSE mentions - it seems to be a pretty constant decline.
I think I should be clearer, his ratings had been lower before but recovered but they never really recovered after Salisbury and eventually saw him become the worst ever LOTO in Ipsos history at that point.
Not surprising considering he was being constantly monstered by virtually the entire mainstream media and a substantial section of his own party.
I'm hard pressed to spot the precipitous drop-off (in March 2018?) TSE mentions - it seems to be a pretty constant decline.
I think I should be clearer, his ratings had been lower before but recovered but they never really recovered after Salisbury and eventually saw him become the worst ever LOTO in Ipsos history at that point.
Not surprising considering he was being constantly monstered by virtually the entire mainstream media and a substantial section of his own party.
That Labour still top that poll despite everything is a sign that all is far from over.
On one hand very true, on the other they are the only party with 'prepared to consider' below their 2024 vote Suggests a tight fight ahead though despite current poling
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Wouldn't it be better to have it as a simple stipend, so that the recipient could choose between using it for Uber or towards a car payment?
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
Is that within government remit? My understanding (likely wrong!) is that people who qualify for relevant benefits can choose to hand those over to Motability for a car. If so, the problem is surely around qualification for benefits, not that the money can be spent on a Motability vehicle.
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Wouldn't it be better to have it as a simple stipend, so that the recipient could choose between using it for Uber or towards a car payment?
That way school/healthcare/younameit vouchers lie.
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Wouldn't it be better to have it as a simple stipend, so that the recipient could choose between using it for Uber or towards a car payment?
I thought this was the case (although you can have it paid direct to Motability, perhaps?). As noted above, I'm probably wrong.
ETA: Anecdotally I know people who have eschewed the Motability offerings - due to lack of flexibility in that - and done a DIY solution, while receiving relevant benefits
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Hmmmm there is a thought I am probably eligible now
As ever, the translator is doing a really good job here, translating French into English in real time (assuming he hasn't seen a speech in advance).
It's quite a skill. Without wanting to cue Leon, I wonder how well AI would do the speech-to-French-text-to-English-text-then-speak-with-nuances-in-real-time? It's more complex than basic translation.
Starmer's haggling him down from handing over Kent and Sussex in exchange for the Bayeux Tapestry to just Kent. With an option on the Channel Islands.
If we chuck in Essex then the French get Farage. And Patel. And Badenoch. This is worth considering...
Farage just has to keep going for a few miles more on that 'spot the migrants' boat of his. Instead, disappointingly, he keeps turning round and coming back.
Starmer's haggling him down from handing over Kent and Sussex in exchange for the Bayeux Tapestry to just Kent. With an option on the Channel Islands.
If we chuck in Essex then the French get Farage. And Patel. And Badenoch. This is worth considering...
Farage just has to keep going for a few miles more on that 'spot the migrants' boat of his. Instead, disappointingly, he keeps turning round and coming back.
HMS Spiv out on patrol, bluebirds over the white cliffs. England Englanding
That Labour still top that poll despite everything is a sign that all is far from over.
Agree. But overall the % figures are both very consistent (except Tories who look out of it for the time being) and very low indeed. All parties should find this a bit troubling.
I regret having to make Leon's head explode and ears go to sleep but Labour being only a few points behind the least worst in GE polling + being least worst party for the % of people who would consider voting for them means they are faves (just) for most seats next time and slightly stronger faves for leading next government.
The International Rescue Committee, the international aid charity run by former Labour cabinet minster David Miliband, has also condemned the plan. Flora Alexander, the IRC’s UK director, said:
This agreement marks yet another step in the wrong direction – doubling down on deterrence rather than offering meaningful protection. Prioritising tougher enforcement without creating safe, legal routes is both dangerous and ineffective. Evidence shows that these policies don’t stop people from seeking safety – they simply force them into more perilous journeys, putting lives at risk.
Proposals such as a ‘one-in, one-out’ scheme risk undermining the right to seek asylum, a core principle of international law. They ignore the root causes of why people cross borders in the first place – to escape conflict, persecution and crisis. Border security must not come at the expense of human rights or the UK’s moral and legal obligations.
Care4Calais, a refugee charity, has condemned the ‘one in, one out’ deal that has just been announced. It says:
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Wouldn't it be better to have it as a simple stipend, so that the recipient could choose between using it for Uber or towards a car payment?
Indeed this is what happens. If you get higher level mobility PIP you can keep the cash, or hand it over to Motability. Of course some people need to be transported in a wheelchair so a Corsa won't always do.
This pilot framework will be decided once the legal issues are resolved and agreed in the EU
So not agreed yet
Hello ECHR
BBC called it right. They will come back with bigger demands and before you know it Starmer has agreed to pay another billion quid and Jersey is part of France.
Surely the choice of the word “consider” doesn’t help. “considering” doesn’t just mean that you are considering positively - it could also be “yes, I considered voting for Corbyn and my consideration was that there is no way in hell I would vote for him.”
How many people did they ask if they had considered Corbyn weren’t viewing considering as maybe voting for him but just being normal and looking at all options and writing off a number of them immediately.
Would it be better to have asked “on a scale of one to ten would you possibly vote for Jeremy Corbyn”.
Yes, that 'consider' is not adding anything and actually risks muddying the waters.
Eg with me. Every GE I consider all the political parties. I look at their values, key policies, read the manifestos, of course I do. It's called due diligence. Respect for our democratic process demands no less.
Only after all of this do I feel comfortable making up my mind to vote Labour.
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Wouldn't it be better to have it as a simple stipend, so that the recipient could choose between using it for Uber or towards a car payment?
The alternative is cash, they get a reduction in their payments if they take a car.
Care4Calais, a refugee charity, has condemned the ‘one in, one out’ deal that has just been announced. It says:
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
The root cause of crossings for those with a legitimate claim for asylum is in most cases the quality of governance and peace keeping in their home countries. If the UN was any use this would be its primary concern.
This is (one of) the classic problems with this government. The return agreement with France is a small but positive step. But it's been so over-spun with the "one in one out" nonsense, by the end of today it's going to look like another huge policy failure."
Care4Calais, a refugee charity, has condemned the ‘one in, one out’ deal that has just been announced. It says:
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
If the policy gets off the ground then it might make some not risk the journey if they have family members in the UK .
Care4Calais, a refugee charity, has condemned the ‘one in, one out’ deal that has just been announced. It says:
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
Well, that makes me more positive about the deal...
Care4Calais, a refugee charity, has condemned the ‘one in, one out’ deal that has just been announced. It says:
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
If the policy gets off the ground then it might make some not risk the journey if they have family members in the UK .
Care4Calais, a refugee charity, has condemned the ‘one in, one out’ deal that has just been announced. It says:
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
If the policy gets off the ground then it might make some not risk the journey if they have family members in the UK .
Rwanda was a better policy
The problem with Rwanda is that no genuine asylum seekers would be processed and the backlog could have become much worse .
This pilot framework will be decided once the legal issues are resolved and agreed in the EU
So not agreed yet
Hello ECHR
Oh god. He hasn’t actually got any agreement at all, yet?
He is so dismally wet
Well on the basis that every single 'deal' Starmer agrees is worse than no deal at all, this can only be a good thing, or at least a bad thing deferred. Of course the 'deal' will be shit for Britain when it comes.
Stephen Timms - “There are no plans to review the (Motability) Scheme’s qualifying benefits.”
That really is a nonsense. A couple of years ago waiting for my car to be serviced at Sytner BMW in Cardiff (it was still under a gratis service package- I'm not mad) there was a big Motability sign in the showroom.
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Wouldn't it be better to have it as a simple stipend, so that the recipient could choose between using it for Uber or towards a car payment?
A large car, or at least boot, is sometimes required to carry a wheelchair or scooter.
The question here in my sanctum sanctorum in East London is whether any new anti-Labour party on the "left" will be able to mobilise a single slate of candidates for next year's London local elections. We also have a Mayoral election where Labour, presumably not putting up Roksana Fiaz, could be vulnerable to a "local" candidate from the Newham Independents (Mehmood Mirza perhaps?), backed by any anti-Labour party led by Corbyn and Sultana.
A single anti-Labour slate of candidates could do very well in the Muslim areas of Newham leaving the Greens in Stratford but whether that would be enough to deprive Labour of a majority on the Council is debatable.
My mainly Hindu ward usually gets the Labour candidates home with 65% of the vote. Labour hold off the Newham Independents in the Beckton and Little Ilford contests two weeks after the GE but the latter was aided by a spoiler put in by a friend of Labour (supposedly) so we could see similar local spoiler candidates suddenly appear next May.
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Surely the choice of the word “consider” doesn’t help. “considering” doesn’t just mean that you are considering positively - it could also be “yes, I considered voting for Corbyn and my consideration was that there is no way in hell I would vote for him.”
How many people did they ask if they had considered Corbyn weren’t viewing considering as maybe voting for him but just being normal and looking at all options and writing off a number of them immediately.
Would it be better to have asked “on a scale of one to ten would you possibly vote for Jeremy Corbyn”.
I don't think 49 overs is likely to be unprecedented.
BritishIrish rider to win the stage in the Tour de France.Suggests a tight fight ahead though despite current poling
Now 16.00
Still waiting at 16.24
A Motability car should be restricted to a basic Corsa and none of your fancy metallic colours.
Between the PLP and Lord Computer Says Its Illegal Under International Law, difficult to see what reforms they can achieve.
And no bad thing.
ETA: Anecdotally I know people who have eschewed the Motability offerings - due to lack of flexibility in that - and done a DIY solution, while receiving relevant benefits
It's quite a skill. Without wanting to cue Leon, I wonder how well AI would do the speech-to-French-text-to-English-text-then-speak-with-nuances-in-real-time? It's more complex than basic translation.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/tennis/women-s-wimbledon-2025/bencic-v-iga-swiatek-betting-34500507
Still IMO the 'best' way forwards - even if increasingly difficult.
I regret having to make Leon's head explode and ears go to sleep but Labour being only a few points behind the least worst in GE polling + being least worst party for the % of people who would consider voting for them means they are faves (just) for most seats next time and slightly stronger faves for leading next government.
This is not an exciting prospect.
This agreement marks yet another step in the wrong direction – doubling down on deterrence rather than offering meaningful protection. Prioritising tougher enforcement without creating safe, legal routes is both dangerous and ineffective. Evidence shows that these policies don’t stop people from seeking safety – they simply force them into more perilous journeys, putting lives at risk.
Proposals such as a ‘one-in, one-out’ scheme risk undermining the right to seek asylum, a core principle of international law. They ignore the root causes of why people cross borders in the first place – to escape conflict, persecution and crisis. Border security must not come at the expense of human rights or the UK’s moral and legal obligations.
A grubby deal between two Governments that trades human lives. A deal that will likely be expensive, will make life harder for people who seek safety in the UK, but will do nothing to tackle the root cause of crossings - a lack of safe routes
This pilot framework will be decided once the legal issues are resolved and agreed in the EU
So not agreed yet
Hello ECHR
Eg with me. Every GE I consider all the political parties. I look at their values, key policies, read the manifestos, of course I do. It's called due diligence. Respect for our democratic process demands no less.
Only after all of this do I feel comfortable making up my mind to vote Labour.
@TSE’s ban on harsh insults is bearing fruit. A month ago I’d have launched a Putin style assault of cuss-drones at you, F bombing all over the oblast
Now I’m only allowed to call you a “weirdo” yet that is oddly satisfying. Probably because you are a weirdo
Weirdo
At 20% VAT its leases will be no cheaper than ordinary ones and it can stick to its original job of providing modified or special vehicles.
@DPJHodges
This is (one of) the classic problems with this government. The return agreement with France is a small but positive step. But it's been so over-spun with the "one in one out" nonsense, by the end of today it's going to look like another huge policy failure."
https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1943221077292765233
He is so dismally wet
Find Out Now voting intention:
🟦 Reform UK: 31% (+1)
🔴 Labour: 22% (-)
🔵 Conservatives: 19% (+3)
🟠 Lib Dems: 13% (-2)
🟢 Greens: 9% (-2)
Changes from 2nd July
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Any ECHR issues would surely affect both the UK and France.
Weirdo
Of course the 'deal' will be shit for Britain when it comes.
The question here in my sanctum sanctorum in East London is whether any new anti-Labour party on the "left" will be able to mobilise a single slate of candidates for next year's London local elections. We also have a Mayoral election where Labour, presumably not putting up Roksana Fiaz, could be vulnerable to a "local" candidate from the Newham Independents (Mehmood Mirza perhaps?), backed by any anti-Labour party led by Corbyn and Sultana.
A single anti-Labour slate of candidates could do very well in the Muslim areas of Newham leaving the Greens in Stratford but whether that would be enough to deprive Labour of a majority on the Council is debatable.
My mainly Hindu ward usually gets the Labour candidates home with 65% of the vote. Labour hold off the Newham Independents in the Beckton and Little Ilford contests two weeks after the GE but the latter was aided by a spoiler put in by a friend of Labour (supposedly) so we could see similar local spoiler candidates suddenly appear next May.
All very interesting...
No party looks truly ready to confront tax-resistant voters with some hard questions
Robert Shrimsley" (£)
https://www.ft.com/content/adfd7fe4-d06e-40e3-a26c-a80828dc2fb4