That was Mavis and Rita in the shop, not the Rovers
Talking about misremembering stuff, I could have sworn Les Dennis gave Mave a Leeds/Hull accent with the "Dern't" and "Kner", but just looking back on some Youtube clips - he didn't!
His Phyllis Pearce/Percy Sugden made Mike Yarwood blush it was so good. A legend of mimicry
That was Mavis and Rita in the shop, not the Rovers
Talking about misremembering stuff, I could have sworn Les Dennis gave Mave a Leeds/Hull accent with the "Dern't" and "Kner", but just looking back on some Youtube clips - he didn't!
His Phyllis Pearce/Percy Sugden made Mike Yarwood blush it was so good. A legend of mimicry
I think Les was better than he is remembered. The bit he did with Ricky Jervase was excellent parody.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
That was Mavis and Rita in the shop, not the Rovers
Talking about misremembering stuff, I could have sworn Les Dennis gave Mave a Leeds/Hull accent with the "Dern't" and "Kner", but just looking back on some Youtube clips - he didn't!
His Phyllis Pearce/Percy Sugden made Mike Yarwood blush it was so good. A legend of mimicry
I think Les was better than he is remembered. The bit he did with Ricky Jervase was excellent parody.
He's alright. He wasnt a great impressionist though! Les and Dustins laughter house was good fun
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
WHAT? Where would PB be if we simply gave up on arguments just because “everything possible has been said and everyone is now dying of boredom”?
That’s exactly when PB doubles down and continues for another 18 months of futile argument
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
Thats not the spirit! This is a contest that could run for days.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
Spoilsport; there'll be nothing to read this afternoon
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
That would be disappointing but I have to doubt it. Because here, there, wherever we are, we know that our Bart will go on ...
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
So the pirate has already won?
I might have to deploy the Farage photo at this rate.
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
WHAT? Where would PB be if we simply gave up on arguments just because “everything possible has been said and everyone is now dying of boredom”?
That’s exactly when PB doubles down and continues for another 18 months of futile argument
I've got no qualms with an interesting debate going back and forth, I enjoy that.
This is so dumb, there's no fun in it.
Its like trying to competitively arm wrestle a 5 year old, even if you win, what is the point?
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.
You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.
You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
Actually it's only a matter of time.
Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable. Making them taste good will take a little longer
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
WHAT? Where would PB be if we simply gave up on arguments just because “everything possible has been said and everyone is now dying of boredom”?
That’s exactly when PB doubles down and continues for another 18 months of futile argument
That is precisely right and why, in 2015 Ed Miliband Is Crap Is PM became true
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
The parcels are processed online and it is an online service
Sadly you have a real problem when you lose an argument which is well known across this forum
Leave him alone.
I'm looking forward to an explanation of how Amazon can conduct its business without the internet.
Still waiting for HYUFD to answer this satisfactorily.
Instant inductee into the You-Can't-Make-It-Up Hall of Fame: the new Dallas permit authority building was partially evacuated bc it lacked the proper permits, thus slowing permits for other local construction projects. https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1943014099555881138
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Strike action is risky when there are opportunities for replacement with technical solutions.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Starmer did his degree at Leeds; he only did a post-graduate year at Oxford. You’re trying to create a situation which doesn’t really exist.
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Wait until you see what the BMA are demanding. A not unreasonable 29%>
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
WHAT? Where would PB be if we simply gave up on arguments just because “everything possible has been said and everyone is now dying of boredom”?
That’s exactly when PB doubles down and continues for another 18 months of futile argument
I've got no qualms with an interesting debate going back and forth, I enjoy that.
This is so dumb, there's no fun in it.
Its like trying to competitively arm wrestle a 5 year old, even if you win, what is the point?
You haven't really got this Internet forum thing have you?
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Starmer did his degree at Leeds; he only did a post-graduate year at Oxford. You’re trying to create a situation which doesn’t really exist.
He'll say he went to an independent school next...
FWIW: In my area, the mail is, more and more, delivered to locked boxes. They are large enough to hold, for example, most books. (Which can be shipped at bargain rates. Oddly enough, here (Seattle suburb) Amazon no longer uses the post to ship books. Though in other areas, they may.)
There are larger, locked boxes for larger parcels. When you receive one, a key is left in your personal box, so you can get your parcel from the larger box.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
I wish your son well but I never understand why people do degrees in journalism. You can learn the skills of the trade in a few weeks. And on the job
And most of it is raw talent. A nose for a story and the ability to tell it. I would never advise anyone to “study” journalism
My best mate shunned Sixth Form in favour of weekdays in the Magistrate Courts, week nights and ends watching non-league football, and second and third tier RL, and attempting to receive payment for anything that he saw worthy of reporting. He ended up commentating on the World Cup.
I get the impression a lot of the newer Racing Post writers have journalism degrees. One big problem with journalism as a career is the demise of local papers and increasingly chain publishers paying a pittance for clickbait articles. ETA that's two.
I live in rural Cumberland. a couple of weeks ago I was passing through Victoria station and nipped into WHSmith's there. Before me were hundreds and hundreds of magazines, weekly and monthly, all of which I manage without, each with a massive number of pages. Every page, presumably was written by someone. This must furnish almost an infinity of opportunity, but with the downside that almost all of it is boringly specialist or boringly vapid.
While it would be fun to be the Economist's person in Washington, there must be less demand to be space fillers for the rest. Who on earth would want to do it instead of a proper job?
Why is journalism not a proper job.
Journalism is a proper job - Shashank Joshi, Jeffrey Goldberg, Tim Shipman are examples - space filling and recycling press releases less so.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Remind me what inflation has been this year again?
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
WHAT? Where would PB be if we simply gave up on arguments just because “everything possible has been said and everyone is now dying of boredom”?
That’s exactly when PB doubles down and continues for another 18 months of futile argument
I've got no qualms with an interesting debate going back and forth, I enjoy that.
This is so dumb, there's no fun in it.
Its like trying to competitively arm wrestle a 5 year old, even if you win, what is the point?
You haven't really got this Internet forum thing have you?
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Wait until you see what the BMA are demanding. A not unreasonable 29%>
I would settle for a rise set by the Triple Lock!
I am not in the BMA so didn't vote in this ballot, but note that the ballot turnout is reducing and doubt that there will be a big walkout. We have had to enact our strike plan even so. I suspect some improvement to other conditions of service would be popular, particularly on rotations and number of PG training places.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
And Farage would immediately promise to bring it back.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
The ability to raise fees in line with inflation would help. Uni's do control costs - the landscape financially here is totally transformed from when I joined. A small illustration of penny pinching - we've recently had all the water dispensers removed and replaced with taps/water fountains. I totally support this by the way. Every transaction is scrutinised. Retiring/leaving staff are not replaced and the work is spread among existing staff.
I'm sure that there is fat to cut but we are already squeezing and have been for a long time.
Now the BBC aren't there the French police are back to normal....
Three French national police officers watched as the dinghy, which was crammed with 50 passengers, nearly all wearing orange life jackets, sailed unhindered north-east in the direction of Dover.
A nearby French search and rescue vessel closely monitored its progress, ready to intervene if the boat capsized.
Later, 74 men, one woman and three children were handed over by the French Navy to a Border Force cutter. The French asked for the 40 life jackets they had loaned the migrants to be returned during the exchange.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
Who is Kemi? Why should Starmer agree anything with her? She leads a failing party. Currently heading for oblivion.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
I despise the Tory party for what it has done to this country and what it continues to try to,do.
It won us the Second World War and we joined the common market under Ted, and we beat the Argies and the Miners on the Tory watch. The party wasn't always swathed in Johnsonian failure
Now the BBC aren't there the French police are back to normal....
Three French national police officers watched as the dinghy, which was crammed with 50 passengers, nearly all wearing orange life jackets, sailed unhindered north-east in the direction of Dover.
A nearby French search and rescue vessel closely monitored its progress, ready to intervene if the boat capsized.
Later, 74 men, one woman and three children were handed over by the French Navy to a Border Force cutter. The French asked for the 40 life jackets they had loaned the migrants to be returned during the exchange.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
Double lock everything. 2.5% or CPI for all pensions, benefits and public sector salaries
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
The labour market may have other ideas. All my colleagues who work on AI may be tempted by jobs elsewhere.
This sort of thing is so depressingly frequent, it cannot possibly be coincidence.
I have good reason to believe that somebody knew the copper tariffs were coming and traded the news ahead of time, and made an ungodly amount of profit.
Trump announced his new 50% copper tariff at 12:58 PM yesterday.
But as my charting shows, the price of copper began spiking at 12:56 PM.
It went up a full 8% *before* Trump announced the copper tariffs.
It is nearly impossible for this to have been a coincidence.
As an aside, the idea that large copper tariffs will do anything positive for the US economy (they produce around 50% domestically, and the vast majority of the rest comes from Chilean mines) is entirely daft.
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The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Remind me what inflation has been this year again?
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Remind me what inflation has been this year again?
CPIH is currently at 4%.
Can't help but think that something is about to crack soon.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
Who is Kemi? Why should Starmer agree anything with her? She leads a failing party. Currently heading for oblivion.
The only chance of these demographic issues being addressed would be if the MP distribution were so fragmented that there had to be a grand coalition, possibly all bar Reform and NI unionists, then they could sort out social care, triple lock, HoL etc and share the blame. Can't see that happening though, as seen in other European countries, the centre / moderate right would ally with the fringe rather than across the centre.
This sort of thing is so depressingly frequent, it cannot possibly be coincidence.
I have good reason to believe that somebody knew the copper tariffs were coming and traded the news ahead of time, and made an ungodly amount of profit.
Trump announced his new 50% copper tariff at 12:58 PM yesterday.
But as my charting shows, the price of copper began spiking at 12:56 PM.
It went up a full 8% *before* Trump announced the copper tariffs.
It is nearly impossible for this to have been a coincidence.
As an aside, the idea that large copper tariffs will do anything positive for the US economy (they produce around 50% domestically, and the vast majority of the rest comes from Chilean mines) is entirely daft.
I wonder if one of Trump's key goals is to be worth more than Musk by 2028. It's doable, I think.
"So Rach, when are you going to quit and get a Proper Job?"
"Heh, mess with you and you'll be saying hello to my Butty Bach*!"
"Yeah, he's a right little Gem he is, wilting worse than that Truss iceberg lettuce at the moment."
"Shut it Ange, all we need is another British-grown Unicorn or two and my fiscal rules will be looking as prudent as Gordon Brown back in the good old days and me and Starms will be sitting pretty."
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
The labour market may have other ideas. All my colleagues who work on AI may be tempted by jobs elsewhere.
Good for them, no reason for a strike then, is there? Just let supply and demand do its work.
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
The labour market may have other ideas. All my colleagues who work on AI may be tempted by jobs elsewhere.
Good for them, no reason for a strike then, is there? Just let supply and demand do its work.
Supply and demand should also include the ability to set the price...
You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.
You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
Actually it's only a matter of time.
Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable. Making them taste good will take a little longer
Yeah, I remember seeing 3D printed edible cake toppers on YouTube a year or so ago. Maybe we're not that far off a 3D printing vending machine for stuff like that.
The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.
Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
The labour market may have other ideas. All my colleagues who work on AI may be tempted by jobs elsewhere.
Good for them, no reason for a strike then, is there? Just let supply and demand do its work.
Indeed. I'm off!
(Actually - I had a job offer yesterday that I'm probably going to accept, just negotiating details. University pay and, in particular, promotion freezes, were a big part of me looking elsewhere)
This sort of thing is so depressingly frequent, it cannot possibly be coincidence.
I have good reason to believe that somebody knew the copper tariffs were coming and traded the news ahead of time, and made an ungodly amount of profit.
Trump announced his new 50% copper tariff at 12:58 PM yesterday.
But as my charting shows, the price of copper began spiking at 12:56 PM.
It went up a full 8% *before* Trump announced the copper tariffs.
It is nearly impossible for this to have been a coincidence.
As an aside, the idea that large copper tariffs will do anything positive for the US economy (they produce around 50% domestically, and the vast majority of the rest comes from Chilean mines) is entirely daft.
Manipulating the markets for personal gain seems to be the main motive for all the tariff noise. It's one reason why the policy has been so unstable, as that has generated maximum market movement.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.
You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
Actually it's only a matter of time.
Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable. Making them taste good will take a little longer
Yeah, I remember seeing 3D printed edible cake toppers on YouTube a year or so ago. Maybe we're not that far off a 3D printing vending machine for stuff like that.
The much derided massive regulation along with market forces mean that food in the UK is astonishingly safe when you consider that about 70 million people eat and drink every day and carry on living on the whole. 3D edible stuff sounds like an edible version of unregulated driverless cars, all asking 'What could possibly go wrong?' as punters drop down dead after eating bits of 3D printing.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift. Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
Who is Kemi? Why should Starmer agree anything with her? She leads a failing party. Currently heading for oblivion.
The only chance of these demographic issues being addressed would be if the MP distribution were so fragmented that there had to be a grand coalition, possibly all bar Reform and NI unionists, then they could sort out social care, triple lock, HoL etc and share the blame. Can't see that happening though, as seen in other European countries, the centre / moderate right would ally with the fringe rather than across the centre.
The Corbynite left also opposed the dementia tax and wants to keep the triple lock
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Starmer did his degree at Leeds; he only did a post-graduate year at Oxford. You’re trying to create a situation which doesn’t really exist.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
They did have the Cambridge-educated Michael Howard before Cameron.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Starmer did his degree at Leeds; he only did a post-graduate year at Oxford. You’re trying to create a situation which doesn’t really exist.
Starmer still has an Oxbridge degree
TSE reckons Oxford degrees are rubbish, so it doesn't count.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
I don't care, but I find it fascinating to observe HYUFD exhibit his care.
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
They may not care but most of our judiciary and top KCs went to independent school and Oxbridge, most of our PMs and senior Cabinet ministers went to Oxbridge as did at least half of our diocesan Bishops and top national journalists
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
They may not care but most of our judiciary and top KCs went to independent school and Oxbridge, most of our PMs and senior Cabinet ministers went to Oxbridge as did at least half of our diocesan Bishops and top national journalists
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
They may not care but most of our judiciary and top KCs went to independent school and Oxbridge, most of our PMs and senior Cabinet ministers went to Oxbridge as did at least half of our diocesan Bishops and top national journalists
Doesn't say much then does it considering how dreadful most of them have been
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
They may not care but most of our judiciary and top KCs went to independent school and Oxbridge, most of our PMs and senior Cabinet ministers went to Oxbridge as did at least half of our diocesan Bishops and top national journalists
So?
I think HYUFD is decrying the situation and calling for a more egalitarian society.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy
Just wrong
Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.
65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
I am on holiday in some distant EU hinterland so the only UK News available is Sky. Although I have Sky at home SkyNews is not a channel I watch. But man alive, is it poor?
My main observation is the Chief Anchor, a characterless droid, is David Frost's son. I also note that David Dimbleby's son is a reporter on ITN. It's not what you know but who you know.
It’s terrible, luckily the party of the people is absolutely against this nepotism going on in politics.
I wasn't being politically partisan. However being as you couldn't resist, the traffic is not all one way. Your future Tory leader could be Aphra Brandreth the daughter of Gyles.
Yep, but I don’t really have a problem with nepotism, it’s been the case for most of humanity that people follow their family trades and get into roles and places because of their family connections - generations of farmers sons becoming farmers, children of teachers becoming teachers, lawyers the same, politicians was ever thus, look at the Romans.
I don’t think newsreaders following their parents footsteps is remotely an issue. More of a problem when BBC presenters write books which are then pushed on every BBC programme for example.
It’s anti aspiration, it leads to a de facto caste system.
Will you be encouraging or discouraging your children to go into law?
I will support whatever they choose, I’ve told them if they work hard they can achieve anything, look at me, the grandson of humble immigrants and how much I’ve achieved with hard work.
FWIW my eldest is thinking about becoming a doctor like his grandfather, my youngest is thinking about something physics/maths/F1 related, like me he loves physics, numbers, and F1.
I’ve told them if they are lazy, only the University of Oxford will accept them and they’ll spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Absolutely right, and I would do the same but criticising people for following their parents’ careers is a bit blinkered as, in that case, we have no idea if Sir David Frost told his boy “you must become a journalist or else” or he put him in a position to choose their own way with the best possible preparation and he chose journalism as he had seen it from the inside and liked what he saw.
It’s very easy to cry “nepotism” but usually it’s a lot less sinister than nepotism implies.
I have skin in this game. My son has a distinction in his MA from the very prestigious Cardiff School of Journalism, but his dad is a scumbag filth pessant. Up against even a tongue tied media royalty Dimbleby, the Dimbleby gets the gig.
My lad is doing OK, but all the cards are stacked against him.
Yes, he went to Cardiff not Oxford when graduates of the latter like Dimbleby Jr and Cambridge dominate national news media, nothing to do with his parentage otherwise
No. You know nothing!
ALL those with media ambitions like Susannah Reid, Emma Barnett , Jason Mohammed and many, many more do their post graduate degree at Cardiff School of Journalism. Perhaps you don't need to attend if your dad interviewed Richard Nixon.
Susannah Reid presents lifestyle and morning programmes and Emma Barnett Woman's Hour and Jason Mohammed Final Score none are allowed to present the news.
Huw Edwards was ironically one of the few non Oxbridge types to anchor the BBC news and he had a Cardiff degree
FFS
It's not their Mickey Mouse first degree from Cardiff like mine in politics. It is a prestigious post graduate qualification from a World renowned school of journalism. It compares to whatever you did at Aber, only much, much more prestigious.
Although after Huw you might have a point.
If you have an Oxbridge arts or PPE degree you are more likely to get a top top at the BBC or a broadsheet newspaper (and to a lesser extent Sky or ITV) in news or current affairs whether you did a Cardiff journalism course or not.
Though GB News seems to have much broader range of news presenters and commentators as suits its anti establishment and pro Reform agenda
That is simply bollocks. You do not know what you are talking about. You get your Oxbridge first in PPE then you go to Cardiff School of Journalism ( or similar). Just look at the list of alumni. It's a who's who of the woke lamestream media.
It isn't, look at the ranks of the BBC newsroom and Times and Telegraph and Guardian correspondents with Oxbridge degrees (with or without Cardiff postgrad courses) and compare them to the numbers of non Oxbridge journalists in said media outlets with Cardiff postgrad courses but no Oxbridge degree.
All you are saying is Cardiff is a journalism finishing school for Oxbridge humanities graduates
I suppose it kind of is.
I am hoping by the third term of a Labour Government all this elitism will have been squeezed out of the jobs market.
Why would Oxbridge educated Starmer want to end his elitist advantage over non university educated Farage and non Oxbridge educated Badenoch?
Thank God the Conservative Party has stood up against elitism all these years! The Oxford-educated Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron never would have stood for such elitism.
The rather obvious bias is against the oiks of Cambridge.
Michael Howard went to Cambridge as did Nick Clegg
You have an irrational obsession with where people went to school. Most people don’t care.
They may not care but most of our judiciary and top KCs went to independent school and Oxbridge, most of our PMs and senior Cabinet ministers went to Oxbridge as did at least half of our diocesan Bishops and top national journalists
So?
I think HYUFD is decrying the situation and calling for a more egalitarian system.
Not necessarily, it is hardly surprising most who get the most elite jobs went to the most elite universities
Postie has been with another parcel. More unsolicited Tesla accessories. At some point certain companies will get the message - I am not doing free product reviews any more. I'm big enough to get paid commissions, your competitors are doing so, I'm not reviewing your tat when they're paying me to review their tat.
Why would anyone us Royal Mail????? target for first class now only 90pc and second class will turn up when they can fit it in...
Why would anyone use snail mail?
Emails are free and instantaneous.
I don't think I've posted any letters in years, only parcels.
To send a birthday card, Christmas cards, postcards etc. Lots of companies still use it for bills.
Plus of course Royal Mail also send parcels and are the only company with the network to cover even the most remote rural areas, even Amazon use Royal Mail for the final mile and the only company that provides the universal service obligation so it costs the same to post to a rural hamlet as an inner city
I'm curious if there's an age split on the sending of cards. The only people I know who send cards nowadays are either old people, or young fogies who are old at heart.
My wife and I don't send or expect cards, with the exception of family living overseas. The only people we get cards for are people whom we're close enough to see in person to celebrate their birthday/Christmas and we'll give the cards in person then.
If you're not close enough to see them in person, why send a card?
Don't send postcards to anyone. My wife will upload pictures to Facebook which family and friends can keep in touch with. I mostly just don't bother.
Yes so older people still send cards and will use RM to send them. I tend to send online Christmas cards now and put holiday pictures on Facebook too but my parents still send Christmas and birthday cards and postcards by post. I also send birthday cards by post still and if the friend or relative having the birthday is not nearby and it is not a big birthday we won't see them in person for it
My family have stopped sending all cards
We tend to express happy birthday, anniversary etc on our Whats app or facebook pages
Most everything we do today is by e mail and bcs payments
Indeed my daughters house sale and purchase, plus survey is done entirely by e mail
We receive virtually no post and to be honest, for a couple of oldies, we are quite proud how we have embraced modern tech communications
You still can't send parcels online
Yes, you can
Many parcel companies offer an online service to book and collect from your home
So as I said you can't send parcels online, you have to get them collected and delivered even on that example
What a bizarre response
As has been said by other posters you book online and it is collected
Amazon is an online company who deliver to your door
Are you saying they are not an online business
I really do wonder about your thought processes
So as I said the parcels are not sent online are they? You cannot send a parcel over the internet it has to be collected and delivered by hand
By hand to your door is online.
You don't need to go to a shop/post office/postbox.
No it isn't, you may order it online but it is delivered by hand not over the internet like email
What on earth are you rabbiting on about?
I think this discussion started with a HYUFD statement along the lines that the postal service is still necessary because they deliver parcels, which aren't delivered to your house via broadband - but it's since devolved to a battle of semantics and will.
Two of PB's titans in the knocking head on a brick wall contest are engaged in the opening stages of a bout that might last the entire day.
My money is on the pirate!
Like Big G I've said all I've got to say on the matter.
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
You would be better off debating with a brick wall rather than Bart, you would get more sense out of it.
I like the idea of a young John Curtice sitting in his PPE degrees with all these characters who want to get ahead and him thinking "your approval ratings are atrocious."
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65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade
Should maintain: 65%
Should not maintain: 11%
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1
There is no point in going any further. The point has been made, there's no point taking it any further.
That’s exactly when PB doubles down and continues for another 18 months of futile argument
https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1943073595481063624
This is so dumb, there's no fun in it.
Its like trying to competitively arm wrestle a 5 year old, even if you win, what is the point?
Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable.
Making them taste good will take a little longer
And that was today - I assume you didn't watch her and chose to add comments she did not make
If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.
Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift.
Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
Instant inductee into the You-Can't-Make-It-Up Hall of Fame: the new Dallas permit authority building was partially evacuated bc it lacked the proper permits, thus slowing permits for other local construction projects.
https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1943014099555881138
There are larger, locked boxes for larger parcels. When you receive one, a key is left in your personal box, so you can get your parcel from the larger box.
(Fun fact: Amazon uses mules to deliver some parcels: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2023/08/02/amazon-mules-deliveries-grand-canyon-phantom-ranch/70518269007/ )
It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
I am not in the BMA so didn't vote in this ballot, but note that the ballot turnout is reducing and doubt that there will be a big walkout. We have had to enact our strike plan even so. I suspect some improvement to other conditions of service would be popular, particularly on rotations and number of PG training places.
I'm sure that there is fat to cut but we are already squeezing and have been for a long time.
Three French national police officers watched as the dinghy, which was crammed with 50 passengers, nearly all wearing orange life jackets, sailed unhindered north-east in the direction of Dover.
A nearby French search and rescue vessel closely monitored its progress, ready to intervene if the boat capsized.
Later, 74 men, one woman and three children were handed over by the French Navy to a Border Force cutter. The French asked for the 40 life jackets they had loaned the migrants to be returned during the exchange.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/10/politics-latest-news-starmer-macron-uk-france-summit/
2.5% or CPI for all pensions, benefits and public sector salaries
I have good reason to believe that somebody knew the copper tariffs were coming and traded the news ahead of time, and made an ungodly amount of profit.
Trump announced his new 50% copper tariff at 12:58 PM yesterday.
But as my charting shows, the price of copper began spiking at 12:56 PM.
It went up a full 8% *before* Trump announced the copper tariffs.
It is nearly impossible for this to have been a coincidence.
Especially on a commodity this large with some massive volumes around the world trading daily.
https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1943076920922370109
As an aside, the idea that large copper tariffs will do anything positive for the US economy (they produce around 50% domestically, and the vast majority of the rest comes from Chilean mines) is entirely daft.
Senegal President: I know you are a tremendous golf player. Golf requires concentration and precision, qualities that also make for a great leader. So, perhaps an investment could be made in a golf course in Senegal.. that would be an opportunity for you to show off your skills on the golf course.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1942998202728485315
Can't see that happening though, as seen in other European countries, the centre / moderate right would ally with the fringe rather than across the centre.
"Heh, mess with you and you'll be saying hello to my Butty Bach*!"
"Yeah, he's a right little Gem he is, wilting worse than that Truss iceberg lettuce at the moment."
"Shut it Ange, all we need is another British-grown Unicorn or two and my fiscal rules will be looking as prudent as Gordon Brown back in the good old days and me and Starms will be sitting pretty."
*little friend
Maybe we're not that far off a 3D printing vending machine for stuff like that.
(Actually - I had a job offer yesterday that I'm probably going to accept, just negotiating details. University pay and, in particular, promotion freezes, were a big part of me looking elsewhere)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/16/kemi-badenoch-uk-getting-poorer
https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-badenoch-hits-back-at-claims-she-would-means-test-pensions-triple-lock-13290743
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nigel-farage-keir-starmer-reform-uk-kemi-badenoch-conservatives-b2758529.html