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Are you ready for Trump winning 2028? – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,544
edited June 27 in General
Are you ready for Trump winning 2028? – politicalbetting.com

Oddly this interview with Eric Trump has cheered me up because I’ve been saying and betting for a while that I am expecting a Trump to be the Republican nominee in 2028, it might Donald Trump, it might be Donald Trump Jr, or Eric Trump (I also have long shot bets on Jared Kushner).

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,512
    E pluribus unum?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,264
    Charmless oaf...of course he can become President.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,934
    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,463
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Seems like a huge change for the US after the new SCOTUS ruling. Not sure how anything can stop Trump simply deporting citizens now. Grim times ahead for the US.

    The SCOTUS judgment reads like a very well argued slap down of activist judges, to me. We could do with the same in the UK/EU

    This is not an opinion on Trump's ICE antics: that is a different matter
    Had the same SCOTUS slapped down lower courts issuing nationwide rulings on guns or abortion, then I would have a lot more sympathy.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    If that rum bunch are the only options, I'll take Ivanka. The two male spawn are a chip of the old block.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,934
    Starmer is in "getting on with the job" territory.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1938598549203132714

    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    So we’re creating thousands of new jobs, training opportunities, and apprenticeships across the country.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    It will be Vance, not one of the failsons.
    Assuming there is an election.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,264
    edited June 27
    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    Vance has already changed his name once. He was born James Donald Bowman.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    You mean like Marjorie Taylor -Trump.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Seems like a huge change for the US after the new SCOTUS ruling. Not sure how anything can stop Trump simply deporting citizens now. Grim times ahead for the US.

    The SCOTUS judgment reads like a very well argued slap down of activist judges, to me. We could do with the same in the UK/EU

    This is not an opinion on Trump's ICE antics: that is a different matter
    Had the same SCOTUS slapped down lower courts issuing nationwide rulings on guns or abortion, then I would have a lot more sympathy.
    Yes, it reads like the court not so much putting its thumb on the scale as binning it entirely.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    Still, I'm so up for this case.

    Gavin Newsom sues Fox News for $787M in defamation case over Trump call
    The amount is nearly identical to Dominion Voting’s 2023 defamation settlement with Fox News.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/27/newsom-sues-fox-news-defamation-case-00429168
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,721
    Mexicanpete said:

    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    You mean like Marjorie Taylor -Trump.
    More like Vladimir Trump
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,454
    Radio 5 today seems to be attracting callers who love u turns

    "Slalom S'Keir is brilliant because he listens to the people and changes his mind"

    Do any real people believe this shite?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    Australia will deploy an E-7 Wedgetail radar detection aircraft to 🇵🇱Poland, which will provide 🇺🇦Ukraine and NATO member states with information about 🇷🇺Russian military targets.
    https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1938271514580902060
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,324
    Possible either Eric or Trump Jr could win the GOP nomination, although I would make VP Vance narrow favourite for that.

    Yet unless Trump can get his approval ratings closer to 50% from their current 40-45% or so none of them would have a chance of winning the general election
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    williamglenn said:

    Starmer is in "getting on with the job" territory.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1938598549203132714

    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    So we’re creating thousands of new jobs, training opportunities, and apprenticeships across the country.

    I suspect it all depends on what accurate/spurious* metric he is using.

    Haven't you got some on-topic Trump shill posts to write?

    * Delete as appropriate.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    The US State Department will soon establish a new "Office of Natural Rights," tasked with monitoring so-called "free speech backsliding" in Europe and criticizing what it views as censorship.

    The office may also impose visa restrictions on European officials who criticize US citizens online.

    What remains unclear is how this new office will handle JD Vance memes.
    https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1938156013619695771
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,518
    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    That might be a bit Japanese for Trump.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,326
    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    The US State Department will soon establish a new "Office of Natural Rights," tasked with monitoring so-called "free speech backsliding" in Europe and criticizing what it views as censorship.

    The office may also impose visa restrictions on European officials who criticize US citizens online.

    What remains unclear is how this new office will handle JD Vance memes.
    https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1938156013619695771

    Wait: they're monitoring free speech, and then banning people who exercise free speech?

    Do I have this right?
    No, you are completely wrong. If act, they're monitoring free speech, and then banning people who exercise free speech.

    The Ministry of Truth.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,758
    Andy_JS said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    Not everything has been bad.

    He's managed Trump pretty well.

    He managed last summer's unrest pretty well.

    The new workers' rights are welcome.

    Health will get a big boost, admittedly at the expense of much else.

    What there has been a huge lack of is vision, symbolised by the terrible decision to heavily water down the green growth plan. What he needs to do first is get in a new lot of people around him who can articulste a vision, and get rid of McSweeney.

    The tories on here will fucking despise him and all his works no matter what he does as is their right and inclination. His current Red Reform strategy might be his least worst option.

    Basically, the British voters hate everything and each other. They keep voting for self-harming nihilism like Brexit and then wondering why everything's fucked. They want lower taxes, better public services, a renewed sense of national purpose and time travel to either 1959 or 2003. If any politician can come up with a compelling vision of how to achieve that, they are laughing.
    What was wrong with 2003?
    Michael Howard became Tory leader?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,934
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61

    Did they employ a Lib Dem to make that bar chart?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    The US State Department will soon establish a new "Office of Natural Rights," tasked with monitoring so-called "free speech backsliding" in Europe and criticizing what it views as censorship.

    The office may also impose visa restrictions on European officials who criticize US citizens online.

    What remains unclear is how this new office will handle JD Vance memes.
    https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1938156013619695771

    Wait: they're monitoring free speech, and then banning people who exercise free speech?

    Do I have this right?
    MAGA.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,758
    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    Sounds a bit Roman.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    MarqueeMark said:

    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    Vance has already changed his name once. He was born James Donald Bowman.
    I didn't know that.

    Why choose Vance when W***er was available?

    Bang goes my ESTA certificate!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,685
    williamglenn said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61

    Did they employ a Lib Dem to make that bar chart?
    If so, the longest bar would be yellow...
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    edited June 27
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Radio 5 today seems to be attracting callers who love u turns

    "Slalom S'Keir is brilliant because he listens to the people and changes his mind"

    Do any real people believe this shite?

    LBC came from the other direction. Callers from the left outraged at the hideousness of the Welfare Reform Bill. It was looking horrendous for Starmer, and then Ric Holden made a speech, and Starmer's position didn't seem so bad after all.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,351
    On why I akways like Glastonbury even now that it's become more mainstream, in response to a post o n tge previous thread, yours truly was there in 1982 for this performance.:

    https://tinyurl.com/2tz6rx39

    A musician I still like and fond memories. In that timepiece of a video there, you can see how much in the festival.has changed, but complainjng about how much it's changed has also itself become a bit of an annual tradition.

    However mainstream it gets, I think it's a good institution to have on the Summer calendar now, keeping
    the mainstream UK in touch with a specifically British hippie-ruralist tradition, and also actually a religious -dissenting and Protestant Non-Conformist one, in the case of Michael Eavis.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    Mexicanpete said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    Vance has already changed his name once. He was born James Donald Bowman.
    I didn't know that.

    Why choose Vance when W***er was available?

    Bang goes my ESTA certificate!
    You might try JD Pants.

    Yanks will think you are complimenting him on wearing the trousers.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,351
    I *always like* and *on the previous thread*, that should be there.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,414
    Mexicanpete said:

    If that rum bunch are the only options, I'll take Ivanka. The two male spawn are a chip of the old block.

    Ivanka seems to have disappeared this term.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,359
    Corbyn is ranting at Glasto

    Do people really pay £400 per head for this?!

    https://x.com/LeoKearse/status/1938598654849245316
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,264
    Mexicanpete said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    williamglenn said:

    Trump could legally adopt his favoured successor in order to pass on the name.

    Vance has already changed his name once. He was born James Donald Bowman.
    I didn't know that.

    Why choose Vance when W***er was available?

    Bang goes my ESTA certificate!
    I can imagine it is how Trump's wife pronounces "Vance..."
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,835
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61

    And we thought Leon was the only one
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,359
    IanB2 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61

    And we thought Leon was the only one
    No, just on the cutting edge, as ever
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,207
    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    edited June 27
    Leon said:

    Corbyn is ranting at Glasto

    Do people really pay £400 per head for this?!

    https://x.com/LeoKearse/status/1938598654849245316

    I will put Leo Kearse (who apparently is on YouTube and GB News, never heard of him myself) as a maybe...

    Corbyn is propa dense though isn’t he..let’s highlight a huge hypocrisy to try and make a political point.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    Leon said:

    Corbyn is ranting at Glasto

    Do people really pay £400 per head for this?!

    https://x.com/LeoKearse/status/1938598654849245316

    I'd pay four hundred quid in order not to see the old fool.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,207
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61

    My son-in-law has his LLM support on all the time. It gives him advice and is amused by his jokes.

    At dinner recently, I was surprised to be interrupted by this American female who suggested that what I had just said was not entirely correct. It was his phone lying on the table listening in.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,716
    Barnesian said:

    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
    Harris was well over 30% until recently.

    I don't think there's yet much significance in the relative positions, but it's very clear the Democrats are starting to move on from her.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,324
    Barnesian said:

    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
    Buttigieg is more electable than any of those 3 and of course in 2020 he showed he could win the Iowa caucuses already
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,359
    WhisperingOracle said:

    On why I akways like Glastonbury even now that it's become more mainstream, in response to a post o n tge previous thread, yours truly was there in 1982 for this performance.:

    https://tinyurl.com/2tz6rx39

    A musician I still like and fond memories. In that timepiece of a video there, you can see how much in the festival.has changed, but complainjng about how much it's changed has also itself become a bit of an annual tradition.

    However mainstream it gets, I think it's a good institution to have on the Summer calendar now, keeping
    the mainstream UK in touch with a specifically British hippie-ruralist tradition, and also actually a religious -dissenting and Protestant Non-Conformist one, in the case of Michael Eavis.

    I agree with this

    I despair at the hypocritical booji twerps that now make Glasto near-unbearable, however it has established itself as part of the British summer season, and it is and always be iconic, and it will change again in the future. And at its best it is brilliant. On a still midsummer evening, with the sun going down, the music wafting over the campfires, and the Tor on the skyline, it does meld England now with England then and England which has yet to be. Arthurian and electric, the Holy Grail and MDMA, I have loved it. Better with loads of drugs, obvs

    I was there in the early 80s! My first ever Glasto, it was either 82 or 83 - so I may have brushed past you. I was the guy on shrooms (one of many thousands, clearly)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,463
    Nigelb said:

    Barnesian said:

    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
    Harris was well over 30% until recently.

    I don't think there's yet much significance in the relative positions, but it's very clear the Democrats are starting to move on from her.
    Early on, it's usually just name recognition.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,207
    edited June 27
    Nigelb said:

    Barnesian said:

    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
    Harris was well over 30% until recently.

    I don't think there's yet much significance in the relative positions, but it's very clear the Democrats are starting to move on from her.
    She is about 2% chance on Betfair. Punters have already moved from her.

    PS I'm on a ship just north of Iceland and the internet connection will not allow me to check latest odds on Betfair.
    Sunset is 1:05am. Sunrise is 1:55am,
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,664
    We have robot detection on vf although it seems to have pranged www access to comments.

    Anyway:

    BBC states:
    If he does in fact appear, this will only be the second time that President Trump has entered the briefing room so far this term. The first was after the Washington DC plane crash in January.

    The precedent is highly inauspicious.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,414
    Just had my IP address blocked by Vanilla so have switched to a new one using my advanced Russian troll skills*. Triggered by "like".

    Or more likely the "maintenance" Vanilla is carrying out for the next few days.

    *I turned off the router to my ISP, left it off for a bit, then turned it back on to grab a different NAT IP.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,463
    HYUFD said:

    Barnesian said:

    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
    Buttigieg is more electable than any of those 3 and of course in 2020 he showed he could win the Iowa caucuses already
    He would probably have gone on to win the New Hampshire primary if the Dems had not fucked up the caucus.

    How different might the world have been then?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,978
    WhisperingOracle said:

    On why I akways like Glastonbury even now that it's become more mainstream, in response to a post o n tge previous thread, yours truly was there in 1982 for this performance.:

    https://tinyurl.com/2tz6rx39

    A musician I still like and fond memories. In that timepiece of a video there, you can see how much in the festival.has changed, but complainjng about how much it's changed has also itself become a bit of an annual tradition.

    However mainstream it gets, I think it's a good institution to have on the Summer calendar now, keeping
    the mainstream UK in touch with a specifically British hippie-ruralist tradition, and also actually a religious -dissenting and Protestant Non-Conformist one, in the case of Michael Eavis.

    Never heard of Jean Phillipe Rykiel. Interesting music.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,351
    Leon said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    On why I akways like Glastonbury even now that it's become more mainstream, in response to a post o n tge previous thread, yours truly was there in 1982 for this performance.:

    https://tinyurl.com/2tz6rx39

    A musician I still like and fond memories. In that timepiece of a video there, you can see how much in the festival.has changed, but complainjng about how much it's changed has also itself become a bit of an annual tradition.

    However mainstream it gets, I think it's a good institution to have on the Summer calendar now, keeping
    the mainstream UK in touch with a specifically British hippie-ruralist tradition, and also actually a religious -dissenting and Protestant Non-Conformist one, in the case of Michael Eavis.

    I agree with this

    I despair at the hypocritical booji twerps that now make Glasto near-unbearable, however it has established itself as part of the British summer season, and it is and always be iconic, and it will change again in the future. And at its best it is brilliant. On a still midsummer evening, with the sun going down, the music wafting over the campfires, and the Tor on the skyline, it does meld England now with England then and England which has yet to be. Arthurian and electric, the Holy Grail and MDMA, I have loved it. Better with loads of drugs, obvs

    I was there in the early 80s! My first ever Glasto, it was either 82 or 83 - so I may have brushed past you. I was the guy on shrooms (one of many thousands, clearly)
    Haha ! Brilliant. That is a classic PB moment.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,978
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Just had my IP address blocked by Vanilla so have switched to a new one using my advanced Russian troll skills*. Triggered by "like".

    Or more likely the "maintenance" Vanilla is carrying out for the next few days.

    *I turned off the router to my ISP, left it off for a bit, then turned it back on to grab a different NAT IP.

    Same with me, I've had to switch to the vf site.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,454
    The really depressing thing is that I prefer the horrible reality of Slalom as PM to the potentially indescribable embarrassment of the Ginger Growler at the top table

    I can't help but want him as PM for the time being
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,414
    edited June 27
    Andy_JS said:

    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Just had my IP address blocked by Vanilla so have switched to a new one using my advanced Russian troll skills*. Triggered by "like".

    Or more likely the "maintenance" Vanilla is carrying out for the next few days.

    *I turned off the router to my ISP, left it off for a bit, then turned it back on to grab a different NAT IP.

    Same with me, I've had to switch to the vf site.
    The vf is Vanilla so something else must be happening. Of course, Cloudflare (the CDN) does the actual blocking. Probably the ongoing maintenance at Vanilla's end.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    As Rayner and McSweeney sealed £3bn U-turn, Reeves looked at tractors 140 miles away
    Chancellor’s absence was notable as Labour’s top brass negotiated with rebels
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    Leon said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    On why I akways like Glastonbury even now that it's become more mainstream, in response to a post o n tge previous thread, yours truly was there in 1982 for this performance.:

    https://tinyurl.com/2tz6rx39

    A musician I still like and fond memories. In that timepiece of a video there, you can see how much in the festival.has changed, but complainjng about how much it's changed has also itself become a bit of an annual tradition.

    However mainstream it gets, I think it's a good institution to have on the Summer calendar now, keeping
    the mainstream UK in touch with a specifically British hippie-ruralist tradition, and also actually a religious -dissenting and Protestant Non-Conformist one, in the case of Michael Eavis.

    I agree with this

    I despair at the hypocritical booji twerps that now make Glasto near-unbearable, however it has established itself as part of the British summer season, and it is and always be iconic, and it will change again in the future. And at its best it is brilliant. On a still midsummer evening, with the sun going down, the music wafting over the campfires, and the Tor on the skyline, it does meld England now with England then and England which has yet to be. Arthurian and electric, the Holy Grail and MDMA, I have loved it. Better with loads of drugs, obvs

    I was there in the early 80s! My first ever Glasto, it was either 82 or 83 - so I may have brushed past you. I was the guy on shrooms (one of many thousands, clearly)
    "I was gonna get up and find the shroom, but then I got high ..."
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,170
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    The US State Department will soon establish a new "Office of Natural Rights," tasked with monitoring so-called "free speech backsliding" in Europe and criticizing what it views as censorship.

    The office may also impose visa restrictions on European officials who criticize US citizens online.

    What remains unclear is how this new office will handle JD Vance memes.
    https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1938156013619695771

    Wait: they're monitoring free speech, and then banning people who exercise free speech?

    Do I have this right?
    MAGA.
    MELA - Make Europe Like America.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Just had my IP address blocked by Vanilla so have switched to a new one using my advanced Russian troll skills*. Triggered by "like".

    Or more likely the "maintenance" Vanilla is carrying out for the next few days.

    *I turned off the router to my ISP, left it off for a bit, then turned it back on to grab a different NAT IP.

    Same with me, I've had to switch to the vf site.
    The vf is Vanilla so something else must be happening. Of course, Cloudflare (the CDN) does the actual blocking. Probably the ongoing maintenance at Vanilla's end.
    If you go straight for one of the server names ... eg www7.politicalbetting.com ... various internet bits and pieces sometimes throw tantrums.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,414
    MattW said:

    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Just had my IP address blocked by Vanilla so have switched to a new one using my advanced Russian troll skills*. Triggered by "like".

    Or more likely the "maintenance" Vanilla is carrying out for the next few days.

    *I turned off the router to my ISP, left it off for a bit, then turned it back on to grab a different NAT IP.

    Same with me, I've had to switch to the vf site.
    The vf is Vanilla so something else must be happening. Of course, Cloudflare (the CDN) does the actual blocking. Probably the ongoing maintenance at Vanilla's end.
    If you go straight for one of the server names ... eg www7.politicalbetting.com ... various internet bits and pieces sometimes throw tantrums.
    Vanilla is upgrading stuff until 4th July so I'm blaming them.
    https://status.vanillaforums.com/
  • isamisam Posts: 42,089
    🚨📊 NEW POLL

    @BMGResearch survey for @theipaper finds Reform's lead is cut to 3pts after a modest recovery for Labour, but Tories still languishing on sub-20%

    Research carried out Tues-Weds this week, so amid benefits rebellion but before the U-turn


    https://x.com/hugogye/status/1938618683552628756?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    isam said:

    🚨📊 NEW POLL

    @BMGResearch survey for @theipaper finds Reform's lead is cut to 3pts after a modest recovery for Labour, but Tories still languishing on sub-20%

    Research carried out Tues-Weds this week, so amid benefits rebellion but before the U-turn


    https://x.com/hugogye/status/1938618683552628756?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Greens a lot lower in that poll than others.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,414
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Seems like a huge change for the US after the new SCOTUS ruling. Not sure how anything can stop Trump simply deporting citizens now. Grim times ahead for the US.

    The SCOTUS judgment reads like a very well argued slap down of activist judges, to me. We could do with the same in the UK/EU

    This is not an opinion on Trump's ICE antics: that is a different matter
    Had the same SCOTUS slapped down lower courts issuing nationwide rulings on guns or abortion, then I would have a lot more sympathy.
    Yes, it reads like the court not so much putting its thumb on the scale as binning it entirely.
    Dear BBC, we are not America. This is an important story but not the most important story in Britain. Regards, PBer shaking fist at cloud.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,652
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    As Rayner and McSweeney sealed £3bn U-turn, Reeves looked at tractors 140 miles away
    Chancellor’s absence was notable as Labour’s top brass negotiated with rebels

    Looking at Tractors? Ominous!

    Neil Parish got sacked for that!
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,454
    The only thing that he had was the prospect of competence

    What's left?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,856
    williamglenn said:

    Starmer is in "getting on with the job" territory.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1938598549203132714

    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    So we’re creating thousands of new jobs, training opportunities, and apprenticeships across the country.

    Someone should community note that.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,934
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Seems like a huge change for the US after the new SCOTUS ruling. Not sure how anything can stop Trump simply deporting citizens now. Grim times ahead for the US.

    The SCOTUS judgment reads like a very well argued slap down of activist judges, to me. We could do with the same in the UK/EU

    This is not an opinion on Trump's ICE antics: that is a different matter
    Had the same SCOTUS slapped down lower courts issuing nationwide rulings on guns or abortion, then I would have a lot more sympathy.
    Yes, it reads like the court not so much putting its thumb on the scale as binning it entirely.
    Dear BBC, we are not America. This is an important story but not the most important story in Britain. Regards, PBer shaking fist at cloud.
    The tone of their live blogs is incredibly irritating. They seem to assume their audience is made up of people who find everything bewildering and scary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    Turns on Trump press conference and he talking about chopping people's head off.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,856
    isam said:

    🚨📊 NEW POLL

    @BMGResearch survey for @theipaper finds Reform's lead is cut to 3pts after a modest recovery for Labour, but Tories still languishing on sub-20%

    Research carried out Tues-Weds this week, so amid benefits rebellion but before the U-turn


    https://x.com/hugogye/status/1938618683552628756?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Doesn't pass the sniff test to me. I will freely admit to it being a poll I don't like, so there's that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    BlancheLivermore said:

    The only thing that he had was the prospect of competence

    What's left?

    He is dressed for the part...
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,373
    FPT: Off topic, but important. Possibly. This Washington Post analysis of US special elections:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/27/democratic-special-election-gains/
    Among all special elections this year, Democrats have outperformed Kamala Harris’s vote share in 2024 by 13 percentage points, based on Harris-Trump baselines calculated by the Downballot, an election data newsletter. That’s the largest shift toward any party in years. In fact, all but four of the 31 special elections have seen movement toward Democrats.
    https://www.the-downballot.com/

    If that pattern continues for a year I would change that "Possibly" to "Very probably".
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    I really hate the way the US does press conferences where rather than the person giving it read through a list of journalists, instead they all just scream and waves their arms to try and be the loudest so they get their question answered.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,454
    I'd really like to know how Vanilla is verifying that I'm human
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,298
    Barnesian said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Rather concerning what people are using LLMs for…

    https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1938234981089763649?s=61

    My son-in-law has his LLM support on all the time. It gives him advice and is amused by his jokes.

    At dinner recently, I was surprised to be interrupted by this American female who suggested that what I had just said was not entirely correct. It was his phone lying on the table listening in.
    Sounds like something from a Philip K Dick novel :open_mouth:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,601
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    isam said:

    🚨📊 NEW POLL

    @BMGResearch survey for @theipaper finds Reform's lead is cut to 3pts after a modest recovery for Labour, but Tories still languishing on sub-20%

    Research carried out Tues-Weds this week, so amid benefits rebellion but before the U-turn


    https://x.com/hugogye/status/1938618683552628756?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Doesn't pass the sniff test to me. I will freely admit to it being a poll I don't like, so there's that.
    Well tbf, I am studiously ignoring all the polls that put Reform in government.

    At this stage, enjoy the polls you like, ignore the ones you don't; none of them tell us very much about the next GE imo.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    edited June 27
    History Quiz.

    Where in the UK can you find the following in a small space, accessible to the general public? Some PBers have certainly walked right past it.

    A section of Roman pavement.
    An Epstein sculpture.
    A 9th century BC stone with cuneiform inscriptions, from the area of modern Iraq.
    A memorial to a Russian Major, who fought for Czarist Russia, France and England.

    Clues may be available.

    (I came across it again today. I first visited in 1997. The annoying thing is that the only way there has steps :angry: .)
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,454
    Slalom seems to earn his nickname weekly

    Has any PM swerved so often so early?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,705
    BlancheLivermore said:

    I'd really like to know how Vanilla is verifying that I'm human

    Same here. I was expecting it to interact with me but it just circled away to itself.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,758
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Turns on Trump press conference and he talking about chopping people's head off.

    Make America Guillotine Again.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,326
    Barnesian said:

    Nigelb said:

    It looks as though the Democrats are beginning to embrace reality, as Harris starts to slide down in this polling.

    Democratic Presidential Polling:

    Buttigieg 16%
    Harris 13%
    Newsom 12%
    AOC 7%
    Shapiro 7%
    Sanders 5%
    Booker 3%
    Whitmer 3%
    Beshear 2%
    Pritzker 2%
    Moore 2%

    Emerson / June 25, 2025
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1938603011045245005

    Too early to say what it means for the nomination, but it's interesting that Newsom's energetic attacks on Trump are getting him a modicum of support from an electorate very sceptical about him.

    This poll is not reflected in the odds on Betfair for next President.

    Newsom and AOC are the favourites and Harris is nowhere.
    Harris lost against the guy that lost against Biden. And she lost against Biden as well.

    A loser.

    The Democrats need to pick a winner
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,661
    williamglenn said:

    Starmer is in "getting on with the job" territory.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1938598549203132714

    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    So we’re creating thousands of new jobs, training opportunities, and apprenticeships across the country.

    This is just getting more and more painful. I refuse to feel sorry for this over promoted twat. I refuse.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,087
    DavidL said:

    williamglenn said:

    Starmer is in "getting on with the job" territory.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1938598549203132714

    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    So we’re creating thousands of new jobs, training opportunities, and apprenticeships across the country.

    This is just getting more and more painful. I refuse to feel sorry for this over promoted twat. I refuse.
    I wonder who is actually writing these tweets? They feel very AI (but bad AI e.g. GPT-2).
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,661
    AnneJGP said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    I'd really like to know how Vanilla is verifying that I'm human

    Same here. I was expecting it to interact with me but it just circled away to itself.
    Well, like me you probably sat there in a daze, wondering what it was going to do next. That's a pretty human approach.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    DavidL said:

    AnneJGP said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    I'd really like to know how Vanilla is verifying that I'm human

    Same here. I was expecting it to interact with me but it just circled away to itself.
    Well, like me you probably sat there in a daze, wondering what it was going to do next. That's a pretty human approach.
    The centipede was happy quite ...
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,441
    Leon said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    On why I akways like Glastonbury even now that it's become more mainstream, in response to a post o n tge previous thread, yours truly was there in 1982 for this performance.:

    https://tinyurl.com/2tz6rx39

    A musician I still like and fond memories. In that timepiece of a video there, you can see how much in the festival.has changed, but complainjng about how much it's changed has also itself become a bit of an annual tradition.

    However mainstream it gets, I think it's a good institution to have on the Summer calendar now, keeping
    the mainstream UK in touch with a specifically British hippie-ruralist tradition, and also actually a religious -dissenting and Protestant Non-Conformist one, in the case of Michael Eavis.

    I agree with this

    I despair at the hypocritical booji twerps that now make Glasto near-unbearable, however it has established itself as part of the British summer season, and it is and always be iconic, and it will change again in the future. And at its best it is brilliant. On a still midsummer evening, with the sun going down, the music wafting over the campfires, and the Tor on the skyline, it does meld England now with England then and England which has yet to be. Arthurian and electric, the Holy Grail and MDMA, I have loved it. Better with loads of drugs, obvs

    I was there in the early 80s! My first ever Glasto, it was either 82 or 83 - so I may have brushed past you. I was the guy on shrooms (one of many thousands, clearly)
    I went twice - '97 (mudbath) and '98 (three days of absolutely torrential rain).
    Even so, I remember the then fondly and rail at the now by comparison. It's not just that it's mainstream - mainstream is all very well in its place - it's mainstream congratulating itself for being so alternative.

    At its core, it retains some of the original magic. But 70% of it is strategy directors called Clive who can't wait to see Kylie and Elton John.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,856
    edited June 27
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Slalom seems to earn his nickname weekly

    Has any PM swerved so often so early?

    Regardless of what one believes or does not believe about his life outside politics, one thing is completely clear - the man is an habitual liar. Lying is as natural to him as breathing, and even when he's telling the truth, like if he told you the grass was green, it wouldn't be because the grass was green, it would be because the script that week is that the grass is green because the little people like green grass. The veracity of the statement would be purely coincidental.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,079
    MattW said:

    History Quiz.

    Where in the UK can you find the following in a small space, accessible to the general public? Some PBers have certainly walked right past it.

    A section of Roman pavement.
    An Epstein sculpture.
    A 9th century BC stone with cuneiform inscriptions, from the area of modern Iraq.
    A memorial to a Russian Major, who fought for Czarist Russia, France and England.

    Clues may be available.

    (I came across it again today. I first visited in 1997. The annoying thing is that the only way there has steps :angry: .)

    I saw no 3 in a video recently - from a Ziggurat and now surprisingly close to St Pauls?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,441
    williamglenn said:

    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Seems like a huge change for the US after the new SCOTUS ruling. Not sure how anything can stop Trump simply deporting citizens now. Grim times ahead for the US.

    The SCOTUS judgment reads like a very well argued slap down of activist judges, to me. We could do with the same in the UK/EU

    This is not an opinion on Trump's ICE antics: that is a different matter
    Had the same SCOTUS slapped down lower courts issuing nationwide rulings on guns or abortion, then I would have a lot more sympathy.
    Yes, it reads like the court not so much putting its thumb on the scale as binning it entirely.
    Dear BBC, we are not America. This is an important story but not the most important story in Britain. Regards, PBer shaking fist at cloud.
    The tone of their live blogs is incredibly irritating. They seem to assume their audience is made up of people who find everything bewildering and scary.
    The BBC core audience is pensioners, remember.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,705
    On topic, I'd rather they skipped the generations and picked on the young man - is it Barron? Would he want it (yet), though?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,454
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Slalom seems to earn his nickname weekly

    Has any PM swerved so often so early?

    Regardless of what one believes or does not believe about his life outside politics, one thing is completely clear - the man is an habitual liar. Lying is as natural to him as breathing, and even when he's telling the truth, like if he told you the grass was green, it wouldn't be because the grass was green, it would be because the script that week is that the grass is green because the little people like green grass. The veracity of the statement would be purely coincidental.
    His insanely incessant appeals to "working people" are beyond Orwellian

    He needs a new category
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,518
    AnneJGP said:

    On topic, I'd rather they skipped the generations and picked on the young man - is it Barron? Would he want it (yet), though?

    Isn't he too young for 2028?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,414
    edited June 27
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    DavidL said:

    williamglenn said:

    Starmer is in "getting on with the job" territory.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1938598549203132714

    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    So we’re creating thousands of new jobs, training opportunities, and apprenticeships across the country.

    This is just getting more and more painful. I refuse to feel sorry for this over promoted twat. I refuse.
    I wonder who is actually writing these tweets? They feel very AI (but bad AI e.g. GPT-2).
    One in seven young people in Britain are unemployed or out of education.

    That’s just not right.

    That – is – a – disgrace.

    And I'd have avoided any fuss about whether it should be ‘is’ or ‘are’ after ‘1 in 7’ especially when followed by ‘That's just not right’. Too many demented English teacher vibes, even if a Borisian dead cat was intended.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    logical_song said:

    MattW said:

    History Quiz.

    Where in the UK can you find the following in a small space, accessible to the general public? Some PBers have certainly walked right past it.

    A section of Roman pavement.
    An Epstein sculpture.
    A 9th century BC stone with cuneiform inscriptions, from the area of modern Iraq.
    A memorial to a Russian Major, who fought for Czarist Russia, France and England.

    Clues may be available.

    (I came across it again today. I first visited in 1997. The annoying thing is that the only way there has steps :angry: .)

    I saw no 3 in a video recently - from a Ziggurat and now surprisingly close to St Pauls?
    I think it's from a place called Ziggurat. But that was what reminded me. The chap missed the Epstein, but they are trying to surprise and make you visit, too.

    I used to go there with my packed lunch when I was working on Little Britain, and then Victoria Street. Since I was living nearby, I also experimented with campanology.

    This is a piccie of the entrance with those (*&£%^&*^% %^*()()(^$ (**&&% **% steps. This will reverse image search. I love the Mk 1 wheeliebin discretely in the frame.

    https://thelondoni.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1DEC09D9-C5CB-4407-8252-A1A35ECDB253-973x1549.jpeg
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,705
    Foss said:

    AnneJGP said:

    On topic, I'd rather they skipped the generations and picked on the young man - is it Barron? Would he want it (yet), though?

    Isn't he too young for 2028?
    I've no idea.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,076
    edited June 27
    Foss said:

    AnneJGP said:

    On topic, I'd rather they skipped the generations and picked on the young man - is it Barron? Would he want it (yet), though?

    Isn't he too young for 2028?
    He's not eligible until 2041 (35 yo)
    So 2044 election
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,856
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Slalom seems to earn his nickname weekly

    Has any PM swerved so often so early?

    Regardless of what one believes or does not believe about his life outside politics, one thing is completely clear - the man is an habitual liar. Lying is as natural to him as breathing, and even when he's telling the truth, like if he told you the grass was green, it wouldn't be because the grass was green, it would be because the script that week is that the grass is green because the little people like green grass. The veracity of the statement would be purely coincidental.
    His insanely incessant appeals to "working people" are beyond Orwellian

    He needs a new category
    Personally I can't see how anybody can muster the strength of character to listen to more than 10 seconds of his adenoidal gaslighting without reaching for the remote.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,705
    wooliedyed said:

    Foss said:

    AnneJGP said:

    On topic, I'd rather they skipped the generations and picked on the young man - is it Barron? Would he want it (yet), though?

    Isn't he too young for 2028?
    He's not eligible until 2041 (35 yo)
    So 2044 election
    Really? That sounds a very good policy - age of maturity & all that.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,079
    MattW said:

    logical_song said:

    MattW said:

    History Quiz.

    Where in the UK can you find the following in a small space, accessible to the general public? Some PBers have certainly walked right past it.

    A section of Roman pavement.
    An Epstein sculpture.
    A 9th century BC stone with cuneiform inscriptions, from the area of modern Iraq.
    A memorial to a Russian Major, who fought for Czarist Russia, France and England.

    Clues may be available.

    (I came across it again today. I first visited in 1997. The annoying thing is that the only way there has steps :angry: .)

    I saw no 3 in a video recently - from a Ziggurat and now surprisingly close to St Pauls?
    I think it's from a place called Ziggurat. But that was what reminded me. The chap missed the Epstein, but they are trying to surprise and make you visit, too.

    I used to go there with my packed lunch when I was working on Little Britain, and then Victoria Street. Since I was living nearby, I also experimented with campanology.

    This is a piccie of the entrance with those (*&£%^&*^% %^*()()(^$ (**&&% **% steps. This will reverse image search. I love the Mk 1 wheeliebin discretely in the frame.

    https://thelondoni.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1DEC09D9-C5CB-4407-8252-A1A35ECDB253-973x1549.jpeg
    Yes, here's the video https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3SDA8vX1Ors
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,079
    logical_song said:

    MattW said:

    logical_song said:

    MattW said:

    History Quiz.

    Where in the UK can you find the following in a small space, accessible to the general public? Some PBers have certainly walked right past it.

    A section of Roman pavement.
    An Epstein sculpture.
    A 9th century BC stone with cuneiform inscriptions, from the area of modern Iraq.
    A memorial to a Russian Major, who fought for Czarist Russia, France and England.

    Clues may be available.

    (I came across it again today. I first visited in 1997. The annoying thing is that the only way there has steps :angry: .)

    I saw no 3 in a video recently - from a Ziggurat and now surprisingly close to St Pauls?
    I think it's from a place called Ziggurat. But that was what reminded me. The chap missed the Epstein, but they are trying to surprise and make you visit, too.

    I used to go there with my packed lunch when I was working on Little Britain, and then Victoria Street. Since I was living nearby, I also experimented with campanology.

    This is a piccie of the entrance with those (*&£%^&*^% %^*()()(^$ (**&&% **% steps. This will reverse image search. I love the Mk 1 wheeliebin discretely in the frame.

    https://thelondoni.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1DEC09D9-C5CB-4407-8252-A1A35ECDB253-973x1549.jpeg
    Yes, here's the video https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3SDA8vX1Ors
    A Ziggurat is a stepped early pyramid like structure
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,018
    logical_song said:

    logical_song said:

    MattW said:

    logical_song said:

    MattW said:

    History Quiz.

    Where in the UK can you find the following in a small space, accessible to the general public? Some PBers have certainly walked right past it.

    A section of Roman pavement.
    An Epstein sculpture.
    A 9th century BC stone with cuneiform inscriptions, from the area of modern Iraq.
    A memorial to a Russian Major, who fought for Czarist Russia, France and England.

    Clues may be available.

    (I came across it again today. I first visited in 1997. The annoying thing is that the only way there has steps :angry: .)

    I saw no 3 in a video recently - from a Ziggurat and now surprisingly close to St Pauls?
    I think it's from a place called Ziggurat. But that was what reminded me. The chap missed the Epstein, but they are trying to surprise and make you visit, too.

    I used to go there with my packed lunch when I was working on Little Britain, and then Victoria Street. Since I was living nearby, I also experimented with campanology.

    This is a piccie of the entrance with those (*&£%^&*^% %^*()()(^$ (**&&% **% steps. This will reverse image search. I love the Mk 1 wheeliebin discretely in the frame.

    https://thelondoni.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1DEC09D9-C5CB-4407-8252-A1A35ECDB253-973x1549.jpeg
    Yes, here's the video https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3SDA8vX1Ors
    A Ziggurat is a stepped early pyramid like structure
    If I get around to affording a flat in Central London, it would in a ziggurat. No - not THAT Ziggurat, that one has no garden :wink: .
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