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The summer of love – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,505
edited June 2 in General
The summer of love – politicalbetting.com

?? It’s the start of Summer so how does voting intention change by people’s fave summer activities. Reform scores highest among those looking forward to the British Grand Prix, for Labour it’s Prides, Tories Tour De France watchers, Lib Dems Prommers & Greens cold water swimmers

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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,974
    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,318
    Lovely first
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,318
    how could that hapepn
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,233
    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    This is the summer of love I was thinking about.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUG2y4Gpf9w
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,974
    malcolmg said:

    how could that hapepn

    You took too long to correct your spelling ?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,990
    I made the schoolboy error of reading the header before checking below the line.

    So no prize for me.

    But I am very pleased to see the way that the swimming activity has been described.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,974
    edited June 2
    Looking at those stats it seems Reform voters are a workshy bunch who plan to spend more time on leisure activities than anyone else ?

    Explains Leon's voting intention.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161
    What a pleasant thread header.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,552
    That is a fascinating take on political opinions. Anybody else spending their summer like me, just in the normal routine?
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743
    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    I predict a riot. I predict a riot.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,524
    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,014
    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743
    More Reform than Lib Dem’s looking forward to pride.

    Well that’s a shock.

    Reform looking forward to the women’s World Cup.

    Its a shame there isn’t a category for stopping local building projects and housing developments. The Lib Dem’s would win at a canter
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,524
    Nigelb said:

    Looking at those stats it seems Reform voters are a workshy bunch who plan to spend more time on leisure activities than anyone else ?

    Explains Leon's voting intention.

    What do you mean leisure? I haven’t had a proper holiday in years. Right now as the rest of you knock off for the day I’m still working - I’ve got to do Luxembourg’s most beautiful hike in the sun

    (Local hike B2 of the Mullerthal trail)
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,877
    edited June 2
    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,549
    Reform supporters seem to be the most worldly and keen on travel.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,917

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    Well, according to the BBC, in Kent they're beginning by cancelling all the committee meetings.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,974
    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    No one answered the question "which activity are you looking forward to more than anything else ?".

    You invented that.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,877
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    I predict a riot. I predict a riot.
    Why didn't they poll that as an option? Probably get 80%+ for Reform.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,974
    edited June 2
    .
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Looking at those stats it seems Reform voters are a workshy bunch who plan to spend more time on leisure activities than anyone else ?

    Explains Leon's voting intention.

    What do you mean leisure? I haven’t had a proper holiday in years.)
    Of course not.

    Your penchant is for the improper.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,088
    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    I think the numbers are voting intention by preferred activity. As most people intend to vote Reform anyway those bars tend to be higher. It's a curious presentation, but it does mean Reform is underweight for Pride marches.

    Incidentally in Edinburgh, which is maybe a centre for wokedom, Pride is a popular activity for families that heterosexual couples bring their children to.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,897
    Eabhal said:

    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    I predict a riot. I predict a riot.
    Why didn't they poll that as an option? Probably get 80%+ for Reform.
    Careful now - Plod is probably on the way about that comment. Should only get a light sentence though - no actual rioting at the moment.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,877
    edited June 2
    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    Sorry, it's 19% of people looking forward to a Pride march are Reform voters.

    Even crazier.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,484
    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    Aren't they more keen on rallies than marches?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,552
    Actually, the tables look more like Summer activity by voting intention rather than Voting intention by summer activity. Question from a non-functioning brain: are they the same thing?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,974
    AnneJGP said:

    Actually, the tables look more like Summer activity by voting intention rather than Voting intention by summer activity. Question from a non-functioning brain: are they the same thing?

    There's no link to the poll, so it's a bit hard to tell.

    Here's another look.

    Here are the cross tabs the other way, i.e., what proportion of voters like each activity. I think some people in the replies are assuming this is what OP posted!
    https://bsky.app/profile/artie-k.bsky.social/post/3lql4dmvjwc22
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000
    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,405

    What a pleasant thread header.

    The Summer of GOVE :lol:
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,221
    Even the Germans are at it:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8jmkr3j7o

    "German police will undertake a new search in Portugal this week as part of ongoing investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann."
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,014

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    Well, according to the BBC, in Kent they're beginning by cancelling all the committee meetings.
    So no attendance allowances? Have they thought this through?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,873

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Mustn't grumble.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,248
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    Sorry, it's 19% of people looking forward to a Pride march are Reform voters.

    Even crazier.
    That's less crazy. "Looking forward to pride marches" is a fairly minority activity. But not clear that it should be a party political one. Therefore small sample size rules apply.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000
    edited June 2
    Another man arrested over Keir and Arson, 48 years old arrested at Stansted
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    Sorry, it's 19% of people looking forward to a Pride march are Reform voters.

    Even crazier.
    And only 9% of Lib Dem’s
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,088
    AnneJGP said:

    Actually, the tables look more like Summer activity by voting intention rather than Voting intention by summer activity. Question from a non-functioning brain: are they the same thing?

    They are not the same and is the second, I think. Summer activity by voting intention would be x% of Reform voters want to go on a UK holiday; y% on a Pride march; z% watch Wimbledon... Same for Z Labour etc. Which is probably a more interesting set of stats.
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743
    RobD said:

    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    Aren't they more keen on rallies than marches?
    What, like Nuremberg coz they’re all Nazis ?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,549
    carnforth said:

    Even the Germans are at it:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8jmkr3j7o

    "German police will undertake a new search in Portugal this week as part of ongoing investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann."

    These new leads always seem to come at this time of year.
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743
    carnforth said:

    Even the Germans are at it:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8jmkr3j7o

    "German police will undertake a new search in Portugal this week as part of ongoing investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann."

    The Golf courses of the Algarve will welcome that news.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,088
    edited June 2
    Presser took place. FPT:

    Going well for Farage in Aberdeen where he lambasted Anas Sarwar for a speech he gave at Holyrood saying there were too many white people. Actually Hamza Yousaf gave the speech, but one Muslim party leader in a jumped up talking shop in the northern territories is like another, so who cares? He also misrepresented the speech, but again who cares?

    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lqmmujrfwc2v
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,541
    He's just not good at Scotland - at all.

    He should do it more though. It's the only way.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,634

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    No, we're on Steps not S Club.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,549
    edited June 2
    FF43 said:

    Presser took place. FPT:

    Going well for Farage in Aberdeen where he lambasted Anas Sarwar for a speech he gave at Holyrood saying there were too many white people. Actually Hamza Yousaf gave the speech, but one Muslim party leader in a jumped up talking shop in the northern territories is like another, so who cares? He also misrepresented the speech, but again who cares?

    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lqmmujrfwc2v
    You're spreading fake news. This was Anas Sarwar in the Scottish Parliament:

    https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/official-report/search-what-was-said-in-parliament/meeting-of-parliament-10-06-2020?meeting=12685&iob=114774

    In Scotland, every chief executive of every council and every Government department is white. Every director of a department is white. Every principal of our colleges and universities is white. Every headteacher is white. Every chair of a public sector body is white. Every High Court judge is white. Every prisoner governor is white. Every editor of a news organisation is white. Why? Is it because we do not have the talent? Is it because we do not have the ability? Is it because the opportunity does not exist, or, worse yet, is it because people do not think that they are wanted or welcome? Those are the fundamental issues that we should be addressing.

    Here's the clip of him saying it:

    https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1785001768247517268
  • eekeek Posts: 30,213
    https://bsky.app/profile/drlindseyfitz.bsky.social/post/3lqn2wy6x2s2s

    It's important that photos are blurred to anonymous things and avoid recognition
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,524

    FF43 said:

    Presser took place. FPT:

    Going well for Farage in Aberdeen where he lambasted Anas Sarwar for a speech he gave at Holyrood saying there were too many white people. Actually Hamza Yousaf gave the speech, but one Muslim party leader in a jumped up talking shop in the northern territories is like another, so who cares? He also misrepresented the speech, but again who cares?

    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lqmmujrfwc2v
    You're spreading fake news. This was Anas Sarwar in the Scottish Parliament:

    https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/official-report/search-what-was-said-in-parliament/meeting-of-parliament-10-06-2020?meeting=12685&iob=114774

    In Scotland, every chief executive of every council and every Government department is white. Every director of a department is white. Every principal of our colleges and universities is white. Every headteacher is white. Every chair of a public sector body is white. Every High Court judge is white. Every prisoner governor is white. Every editor of a news organisation is white. Why? Is it because we do not have the talent? Is it because we do not have the ability? Is it because the opportunity does not exist, or, worse yet, is it because people do not think that they are wanted or welcome? Those are the fundamental issues that we should be addressing.

    Here's the clip of him saying it:

    https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1785001768247517268
    Well I never. @FF43 and @Scott_P spreading disinformation

    Tut
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,066
    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    We had an email letting us know that we could order a rainbow pride lanyard for Pride month. That's right, the Uni is paying for us to show how much we support Pride. I saw a chap wearing one this morning. I couldn't give two figs who does what with who (as long as its consenting adults). I don't need to hear about it all the time just as I don't need to hear about heterosexuals all the time either.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,066

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    Well, according to the BBC, in Kent they're beginning by cancelling all the committee meetings.
    First they came for the committee meetings... I didn't care because I don't go to committee meetings.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,990
    Greens looking forward to motor racing? They must think it is Formula E.

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,066

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,265

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    Well, according to the BBC, in Kent they're beginning by cancelling all the committee meetings.
    First they came for the committee meetings... I didn't care because I don't go to committee meetings.
    LOL.

    Though I imagine many who are obliged to sit through committee meetings would celebrate them being axed.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,524

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    We had an email letting us know that we could order a rainbow pride lanyard for Pride month. That's right, the Uni is paying for us to show how much we support Pride. I saw a chap wearing one this morning. I couldn't give two figs who does what with who (as long as its consenting adults). I don't need to hear about it all the time just as I don't need to hear about heterosexuals all the time either.
    Like I said, it’s becoming a cult. With free lanyards and special code words and objects of veneration and pilgrimages of grace

    It’s a bleak religion for a particularly sad kind of secularist
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,066

    carnforth said:

    Even the Germans are at it:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8jmkr3j7o

    "German police will undertake a new search in Portugal this week as part of ongoing investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann."

    These new leads always seem to come at this time of year.
    Yes - "Sir, I have another new lead in the McCann case, but I need to go to the Algarve for two weeks to chase it down." "Fine - let me know how you get on".
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    Give me a deep winter, that's the time for fire cooking
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,524

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,843

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    Well, according to the BBC, in Kent they're beginning by cancelling all the committee meetings.
    So no attendance allowances? Have they thought this through?
    Not been that way for a while.

    Flat rate for basic councillor membership, with a more for Cabinet members, chairmen and similar.

    (So the savings by not having meetings aren't great.)

    However,
    1 Scrutiny and audit meetings are public, whereas some techbro going through the files isn't.
    2 If there aren't many meetings, it doesn't matter so much if you don't know which of your members are capable of attending a meeting, let alone running one.

    (I remember a David Low cartoon called something like "The New Government", with a dozen WInston Churchills bustling round the Cabinet table. That model seems to be Farage's inspiration.)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,484
    Taz said:

    RobD said:

    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    Not that weird - 19% of Reform voters too!

    I think this might be the craziest polling I've seen on PB.
    Aren't they more keen on rallies than marches?
    What, like Nuremberg coz they’re all Nazis ?
    I'll get my coat.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,873
    edited June 2
    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346
    Fourth man arrested over Starmer firebomb attacks
    Man, 48, arrested at Stansted airport on suspicion of conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 983

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    We had an email letting us know that we could order a rainbow pride lanyard for Pride month. That's right, the Uni is paying for us to show how much we support Pride. I saw a chap wearing one this morning. I couldn't give two figs who does what with who (as long as its consenting adults). I don't need to hear about it all the time just as I don't need to hear about heterosexuals all the time either.
    Except you do hear about heterosexuals all the time. Most films that have any kind of romantic element, advertising, songs, you name it. I'm gay and I think that Pride gets wildly overblown (particularly by faceless multinationals) but I try not get too grumpy about it. I'm young enough to only have a few memories of overt anti gay prejudice but I know many older gays who have a deep attachment to Pride as it still feels liberating to be out and proud and have the rest of the world celebrate that. It doesn't sound like your Uni is forcing you to participate.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,088
    edited June 2

    FF43 said:

    Presser took place. FPT:

    Going well for Farage in Aberdeen where he lambasted Anas Sarwar for a speech he gave at Holyrood saying there were too many white people. Actually Hamza Yousaf gave the speech, but one Muslim party leader in a jumped up talking shop in the northern territories is like another, so who cares? He also misrepresented the speech, but again who cares?

    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lqmmujrfwc2v
    You're spreading fake news. This was Anas Sarwar in the Scottish Parliament:

    https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/official-report/search-what-was-said-in-parliament/meeting-of-parliament-10-06-2020?meeting=12685&iob=114774

    In Scotland, every chief executive of every council and every Government department is white. Every director of a department is white. Every principal of our colleges and universities is white. Every headteacher is white. Every chair of a public sector body is white. Every High Court judge is white. Every prisoner governor is white. Every editor of a news organisation is white. Why? Is it because we do not have the talent? Is it because we do not have the ability? Is it because the opportunity does not exist, or, worse yet, is it because people do not think that they are wanted or welcome? Those are the fundamental issues that we should be addressing.

    Here's the clip of him saying it:

    https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1785001768247517268
    So I need to apologise to Farage for claiming he mixed up the two men, as Sarwar and Yousaf both stated the same facts in their speeches. Farage nevertheless libelled Sarwar as it turns out with his racist claim that he had made a speech saying the South Asian community are "going to take over the country and take over the world", as per the link.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,365
    FF43 said:

    Presser took place. FPT:

    Going well for Farage in Aberdeen where he lambasted Anas Sarwar for a speech he gave at Holyrood saying there were too many white people. Actually Hamza Yousaf gave the speech, but one Muslim party leader in a jumped up talking shop in the northern territories is like another, so who cares? He also misrepresented the speech, but again who cares?

    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lqmmujrfwc2v
    Isn't this the ultimate number on the side of a bus strategy?
    Get a load of media coverage for attributing stupid comment by opponent a to opponent b, wait for them to fill a media cycle talking about the fact one of them said it. Now everyone is talking about your talking point, apologise and say that some intern typed up the autocue text wrong.
    Profit.

    It's obviously working too, see also the discussion we're having now.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,014
    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    They still get plagued by wasps.

    Or worse, some idiot who goes insane in the company of a wasp - and insists on swatting it into my face.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,873

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    They still get plagued by wasps.

    Or worse, some idiot who goes insane in the company of a wasp - and insists on swatting it into my face.
    They don't let wasps into No.1. And it's too cold for them at pt-to-pts.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    They still get plagued by wasps.

    Or worse, some idiot who goes insane in the company of a wasp - and insists on swatting it into my face.
    The wasp averse (that don't have medical issues with them) are a comical lot - hysterical overreacters
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,381
    edited June 2
    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    On another subject, I keep meaning to ask — did you get rid of all those whisky bottles? 🙂
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,130
    I'm not sure people are reading this right.

    My reading the charts say, for example, amongst those who said they were looking forward to a pride event 37% were of them were Lab voters.

    Not that 37% of Lab voters are looking forward to pride.

    That's different.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,549
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    No one answered the question "which activity are you looking forward to more than anything else ?".

    You invented that.
    Leon is not an attention to detail guy.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 983

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    They still get plagued by wasps.

    Or worse, some idiot who goes insane in the company of a wasp - and insists on swatting it into my face.
    The wasp averse (that don't have medical issues with them) are a comical lot - hysterical overreacters
    Could be childhood trauma. I'm swan adverse after being attacked by one whilst strapped in my pushchair. My completely loving parents had a terrible record of being somewhere else when bad things happened. They once lost me during an earthquake in Crete as they were sampling the delights of the hotel buffet when it hit.
  • novanova Posts: 834
    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    As someone has pointed out, you may have misread the polling.

    It doesn't suggest that huge numbers of Labour voters are looking forward to Pride marches. It says that people who look forward to Pride marches (even if that were a small number of people) are more likely to vote Labour. The polling also appears to allow people to select multiple options.

    Still - I can understand the appeal. Many of them are huge events these days, with participants putting in a lot of effort (and it's those participants who are most likely saying they are looking forward to them). They're also often linked to festivals, with lots of gigs and parties etc., so it's more like a weekend of fun, rather than 15 minutes watching someone on a float pass by.

    The one that stood out for me, was the friends' wedding one. If it was just because young people are more likely to be going to friends' weddings, you'd think LD/Green would be a lot higher.

    Do Labour voters have more friends?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,519
    edited June 2
    I'm slightly puzzled by the figures, on my return from a short walk to admire an extraordinary bank of ox-eye dasies, a forgotten garden ablaze with colour and a derelict pub.

    The low score for Greens on most categories. Does this reflect there being few of them, or is it really true that the only things they waste their time on is cold water swimming and attention seeking carnivals for ugly people?

    Do they really hate weddings, real music and Glastonbury that much?

    No wonder I never meet any.

    Footnote: People I know who have gone in gangloads together to Glast are missing it this year, first time in many years. Something to do with cost. Is this right?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000

    I'm not sure people are reading this right.

    My reading the charts say, for example, amongst those who said they were looking forward to a pride event 37% were of them were Lab voters.

    Not that 37% of Lab voters are looking forward to pride.

    That's different.

    Correct. The totals all add to approx 95 (the rest will be SNP etc)
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    The RefCon Party could form a Government here in Wales.

    When Jenrick becomes leader I suspect your party will make some solid gains against Labour here and be involved as the junior partner in the next Government at Cardiff Bay.
  • eekeek Posts: 30,213
    edited June 2
    I see Farage says the Barnett formula should be scrapped, with Scotland getting the same per capita as England but be allowed to tax people more

    He really isn’t that bright at times
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    We had an email letting us know that we could order a rainbow pride lanyard for Pride month. That's right, the Uni is paying for us to show how much we support Pride. I saw a chap wearing one this morning. I couldn't give two figs who does what with who (as long as its consenting adults). I don't need to hear about it all the time just as I don't need to hear about heterosexuals all the time either.
    I had a rainbow lanyard as my last one when working. Pretty sure our ‘engagement team’ got them all FOC.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346
    edited June 2
    algarkirk said:

    I'm slightly puzzled by the figures, on my return from a short walk to admire an extraordinary bank of ox-eye dasies, a forgotten garden ablaze with colour and a derelict pub.

    The low score for Greens on most categories. Does this reflect there being few of them, or is it really true that the only things they waste their time on is cold water swimming and attention seeking carnivals for ugly people?

    Do they really hate weddings, real music and Glastonbury that much?

    No wonder I never meet any.

    Footnote: People I know who have gone in gangloads together to Glast are missing it this year, first time in many years. Something to do with cost. Is this right?

    I am struggling to believe that women's rugby fans also skew so reformy....

    I notice the last two cricket ODIs failed to sell out. £85 a ticket, I think cozzy livs is having an impact.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,990

    The way the Guardian and BBC go on about "wild swimming" you would think 100% of voters favourite past time was jumping in nearest river or lake.

    When I was a kid, what is now fashionable wild swimming was just called swimming....

    You've gone and ruined it with the W word. The poll specifically referred to "cold water swimming".

    Can also be referred to as "drowning".
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000
    Stereodog said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    They still get plagued by wasps.

    Or worse, some idiot who goes insane in the company of a wasp - and insists on swatting it into my face.
    The wasp averse (that don't have medical issues with them) are a comical lot - hysterical overreacters
    Could be childhood trauma. I'm swan adverse after being attacked by one whilst strapped in my pushchair. My completely loving parents had a terrible record of being somewhere else when bad things happened. They once lost me during an earthquake in Crete as they were sampling the delights of the hotel buffet when it hit.
    Being attacked by a Swan is a bit more serious than a wasp sting though. But trauma would, I guess, constitute a medical issue rather than just being a massive wasp cry baby
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,524
    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    I’ve not been on picnics? Er, ok

    Weirdly my stalker @SeanT has, lots, indeed he just wrote about his recent picnics in Aveyron in France, in the Daily Mail, and even included a photo of the picnic

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-14648233/South-France-Aveyron-Provence.html

    Ah. To have a life such as his - drifting from picnic spot to picnic spot around the world! Oh well. I shall have to content myself with “Luxembourg’s prettiest hike” - which is indeed very pretty
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,536
    Stereodog said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    'Having a BBQ',
    Lol, reach for the fucking stars

    Simple pleasures of life. I love this time of year. Sitting outside, in the evening light at 9.00 pm. NINE PM! A cool glass of something in hand and taking in the roses first flush. Life is not all about thrill seeking.
    I agree with that. I love picnics - possibly my favourite thing about summer. Is that sad?

    No it’s simple. Fresh air, countryside, beautiful views, good friends and good chat, a nice glass of cold Mullerthal Pinot Blanc with dreamy creamy grassy Brie de meaux on fresh Borough sourdough


    That's just in your imagination. Picnics are never like that in reality. You haven't been on one for years, if at all.

    Where picnics do work, however, is at (sporting, social) events where the picnicking is curated (eg Glyndebourne, No.1 Car Park at the Royal Meeting, or a point to point).

    Then they are just marvellous. And some of the best such picnics I have had have been in the driving sleet and freezing cold with everyone clutching their glasses of whisky and the rosé still in the car untouched.
    They still get plagued by wasps.

    Or worse, some idiot who goes insane in the company of a wasp - and insists on swatting it into my face.
    The wasp averse (that don't have medical issues with them) are a comical lot - hysterical overreacters
    Could be childhood trauma. I'm swan adverse after being attacked by one whilst strapped in my pushchair. My completely loving parents had a terrible record of being somewhere else when bad things happened. They once lost me during an earthquake in Crete as they were sampling the delights of the hotel buffet when it hit.
    At our latest family attempt at a picnic my daughter was stung by a wasp and she is now decidedly picnic averse.

    Wasps can and do destroy outdoor eating in some summers. The wasp summer of 2022 was one such - we tried and failed to enjoy lunches outside in Germany, Switzerland and France. The last couple of summers have been mercifully quite wasp-free.

    Secret to wasp free summers is a cold wet preceding winter.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 983
    nova said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    As someone has pointed out, you may have misread the polling.

    It doesn't suggest that huge numbers of Labour voters are looking forward to Pride marches. It says that people who look forward to Pride marches (even if that were a small number of people) are more likely to vote Labour. The polling also appears to allow people to select multiple options.

    Still - I can understand the appeal. Many of them are huge events these days, with participants putting in a lot of effort (and it's those participants who are most likely saying they are looking forward to them). They're also often linked to festivals, with lots of gigs and parties etc., so it's more like a weekend of fun, rather than 15 minutes watching someone on a float pass by.

    The one that stood out for me, was the friends' wedding one. If it was just because young people are more likely to be going to friends' weddings, you'd think LD/Green would be a lot higher.

    Do Labour voters have more friends?
    It's also the one march you can go on if your job requires you to be apolitical.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000

    Nigelb said:

    So you're expecting rioting and civil disorder next year ?

    Following Labour's evisceration by the voters and all Councils in the hands of Reform?

    Seems likely.
    The RefCon Party could form a Government here in Wales.

    When Jenrick becomes leader I suspect your party will make some solid gains against Labour here and be involved as the junior partner in the next Government at Cardiff Bay.
    They'll just leave Reform to run a minority if RefCon > PCLab so they can collapse the government just before the next GE and force Reform to just do milquetoast stuff in the meantime. Can't see them being little helpers after 2010-15 and its outcome for Cleggy
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,549
    I will be holidaying in the UK. I may be holidaying in another European country. I imagine I will be sitting in a pub garden at some point. I have no plans for cold water swimming, watching Glastonbury or attending Pride. Am I becoming a Reform voter?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346

    I will be holidaying in the UK. I may be holidaying in another European country. I imagine I will be sitting in a pub garden at some point. I have no plans for cold water swimming, watching Glastonbury or attending Pride. Am I becoming a Reform voter?

    Off to that Reform Blackpool boozer for you....
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 14,554
    Reform UK voters are in for women’s rugby, but not the Tour de France! Indeed, why is the Tour the most Tory thing?

    LibDems doing poorly on Pride celebrators. I’ve been to a LibDem party conference. I’ve been to Pride. The former yielded more offers of LGBT+-relevant night time activities!
  • novanova Posts: 834
    algarkirk said:

    I'm slightly puzzled by the figures, on my return from a short walk to admire an extraordinary bank of ox-eye dasies, a forgotten garden ablaze with colour and a derelict pub.

    The low score for Greens on most categories. Does this reflect there being few of them, or is it really true that the only things they waste their time on is cold water swimming and attention seeking carnivals for ugly people?

    Do they really hate weddings, real music and Glastonbury that much?

    No wonder I never meet any.

    Footnote: People I know who have gone in gangloads together to Glast are missing it this year, first time in many years. Something to do with cost. Is this right?

    In the last More in Common main poll (which appears to be the same time as this one), the Greens were on 8%, so it suggests they neither overly like or dislike any of the other options.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,982
    Sometimes I think the pollsters just get bored.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,990
    nova said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    As someone has pointed out, you may have misread the polling.

    It doesn't suggest that huge numbers of Labour voters are looking forward to Pride marches. It says that people who look forward to Pride marches (even if that were a small number of people) are more likely to vote Labour. The polling also appears to allow people to select multiple options.

    Still - I can understand the appeal. Many of them are huge events these days, with participants putting in a lot of effort (and it's those participants who are most likely saying they are looking forward to them). They're also often linked to festivals, with lots of gigs and parties etc., so it's more like a weekend of fun, rather than 15 minutes watching someone on a float pass by.

    The one that stood out for me, was the friends' wedding one. If it was just because young people are more likely to be going to friends' weddings, you'd think LD/Green would be a lot higher.

    Do Labour voters have more friends?
    On the weddings thing, I think it is generational, and the wording of the question. Once you get above a certain age, it is the weddings of friends' children that you attend in the main, unless there some subscribers to "Our Time" in your social circle.

    And maybe the Greens just think it is an unnecessary waste of resources and boycott the events?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,381
    The questions are so tiresome most of the respondents probably just clicked on the first thing that came into their head without thinking about it properly.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346

    nova said:

    Leon said:

    It’s so brilliantly mad and fitting that Labour people are “looking forward to Pride marches” more than anything else, this summer

    Who thinks like that? Seriously? Anyone?

    They have become a weird creepy cult of “progressives” - utterly divorced from the mainstream of the UK

    As someone has pointed out, you may have misread the polling.

    It doesn't suggest that huge numbers of Labour voters are looking forward to Pride marches. It says that people who look forward to Pride marches (even if that were a small number of people) are more likely to vote Labour. The polling also appears to allow people to select multiple options.

    Still - I can understand the appeal. Many of them are huge events these days, with participants putting in a lot of effort (and it's those participants who are most likely saying they are looking forward to them). They're also often linked to festivals, with lots of gigs and parties etc., so it's more like a weekend of fun, rather than 15 minutes watching someone on a float pass by.

    The one that stood out for me, was the friends' wedding one. If it was just because young people are more likely to be going to friends' weddings, you'd think LD/Green would be a lot higher.

    Do Labour voters have more friends?
    On the weddings thing, I think it is generational, and the wording of the question. Once you get above a certain age, it is the weddings of friends' children that you attend in the main, unless there some subscribers to "Our Time" in your social circle.

    And maybe the Greens just think it is an unnecessary waste of resources and boycott the events?
    Given how often we find that Timothy Hartly Symthe of Stop Just Oil actually secretly goes on shit loads of foreign holidays, maybe they are just lying to the pollsters.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346
    edited June 2
    Andy_JS said:

    The questions are so tiresome most of the respondents probably just clicked on the first thing that came into their head without thinking about it properly.

    I think this is most likely....how else with you eventually get your £50 Amazon gift card after answering your 20000th poll question.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,000

    Sometimes I think the pollsters just get bored.

    MiC did VI by biscuit choice once so, yeah
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,265
    eek said:

    I see Farage says the Barnett formula should be scrapped, with Scotland getting the same per capita as England but be allowed to tax people more

    He really isn’t that bright at times

    Seems like a very sensible solution, even broken clocks can be right twice a day.

    If Scotland wants to spend more per capita than England there's nothing stopping them from putting up taxes. No reason we should be paying for Holyrood to offer free tuition, free prescription or whatever other goodies they want out of our taxes.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,088
    eek said:

    I see Farage says the Barnett formula should be scrapped, with Scotland getting the same per capita as England but be allowed to tax people more

    He really isn’t that bright at times

    I don't think Farage is interested in Scotland. He doesn't appear to like the place much. Which is fair enough as an English nationalist fishing in other waters.

    What baffles me is the 18% of people in Scotland, some of whom must identify as Scots, who say they will vote for him. Who are these people? I don't know any - and I know plenty of people who will vote for all the other parties.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346

    eek said:

    I see Farage says the Barnett formula should be scrapped, with Scotland getting the same per capita as England but be allowed to tax people more

    He really isn’t that bright at times

    Seems like a very sensible solution, even broken clocks can be right twice a day.

    If Scotland wants to spend more per capita than England there's nothing stopping them from putting up taxes. No reason we should be paying for Holyrood to offer free tuition, free prescription or whatever other goodies they want out of our taxes.
    Didn't Barnett himself say that it was only supposed to be temporary.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,917
    I have my window open and I can hear a cuckoo. First one I've heard this year, although when I could walk we once saw one in some nearby woods.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,346
    FF43 said:

    eek said:

    I see Farage says the Barnett formula should be scrapped, with Scotland getting the same per capita as England but be allowed to tax people more

    He really isn’t that bright at times

    I don't think Farage is interested in Scotland. He doesn't appear to like the place much. Which is fair enough as an English nationalist fishing in other waters.

    What baffles me is the 18% of people in Scotland, some of whom must identify as Scots, who say they will vote for him. Who are these people? I don't know any - and I know plenty of people who will vote for all the other parties.
    There is nought as a strange as folk. I always point to the not insignificant percentage of Brexit supporters who were also staunchly Lib Dem throughout.
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,743
    I’m not usually a fan of parody accounts on social media. I’d rather watch Famileigh tik toks. These accounts are Usually run by morons like that cat one but this tweet is a blinder. So many people falling for it. RAF plane to be painted in pride colours 😂😂😂

    https://x.com/raf_luton/status/1929119254634274883?s=61
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,088

    eek said:

    I see Farage says the Barnett formula should be scrapped, with Scotland getting the same per capita as England but be allowed to tax people more

    He really isn’t that bright at times

    Seems like a very sensible solution, even broken clocks can be right twice a day.

    If Scotland wants to spend more per capita than England there's nothing stopping them from putting up taxes. No reason we should be paying for Holyrood to offer free tuition, free prescription or whatever other goodies they want out of our taxes.
    Didn't Barnett himself say that it was only supposed to be temporary.
    I can explain the Barnett Formula but it's a bit like the Schleswig-Holstein question and I may be mad.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,917

    Sometimes I think the pollsters just get bored.

    Summer = silly season?
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