"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Vance: “We should be able to move beyond the mistakes that have been made in the past…If Russia is not willing to do that, then we’re eventually just going to say, ‘This is not our war. It’s Joe Biden’s war, it’s Vladimir Putin’s war. It’s not our war.’" https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1924488728673767734
That’s actually just creates an incentive for Putin not to cooperate
NEW: Senate Democrats are introducing a new bill today -- the DOGE BROS Act -- that drastically increases the punishments on people who meddle in sensitive government data without authorization.
Apparently DOGE fired a bunch of weather forecasters, so the US can't issue weather warnings for tornadoes overnight, quite likely leading to some avoidable deaths recently.
The measure of the insanity that has gripped the US is that, despite this and other instances of spectacular unfitness for office, cowardice, corruption, and being a traitor to the country, Trump's net approval rating is only -5.8.
This is the sort of thing in store for Britain if Farage becomes PM.
No worries - I'm sure they will abolish the organisation that counts the deaths !
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish nephew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
"Paul Dyer, who worked on boats for 17 years before becoming a superintendent responsible for the management of a fleet, said: “The EU boats were only supposed to be able to fish in our waters for another year. Now it’s going to be another 12 years. It means a lot less income for UK fishermen.”
WTAF did these people expect? That the (clearly terrible) Boris deal would expire and then there would be no more EU boats? But they expect access to EU waters? Someone needs to explain reality to them.
These people are all gonna go to Reform, you can read it between the lines
Farage, potentially, might win an epochal, landslide victory
You overestimate the impact of the fisherman vote, I think. Perhaps because you're from Cornwall.
I see that, in the Cornish dialect, there are several words which don't mean what pne might expect.
"Allycumpooster", means alright, whereas "Onan Hag Oll" does not extend the obscene theme also to include ageism and sexism, but is the national motto : "One and all." How widespread are proper Cornish-speakers these days ?
I believe @Pagan2's mum is the last known native speaker of Cornish
Do give over you complete and utter fuckwit, just because the intelligentsia claimed a language was dead didn't mean it didnt exist outside their intellectual ambit...before my parents all my grand parents spoke a language that wasn't english....if it wasn't cornish what was it? Especially coming from an idiot like you that claims to be cornish but grew up in hereford....you are the equivalalent of what the irish call a plastic paddy
You seem to believe I am criticising
I am not. I am celebrating your remarkable philological life story, as something unprecedented. An extraordinary linguistic survival of a hitherto-presumed-dead Celtic language, somehow clinging on tenaciously in Slough
Matthew Arnold liked Slough. What did he say? "That sweet City with her dreaming spires, home of lost causes, heard to be whispering from her towers the last enchantments of the Middle Ages".
Which may be why Slough is the only place in Western Europe with a small community of people whose first language is a dialect of Aztec Nahuatl.
On topic. I’m taking the opposite psephological position to you on this TSE.
We need to recognise how something different to UNS happened last year, seat by seat, FPTP is seat by seat election. Remember, anecdotally, Last June, Tory PBers crying foul - there’s an unofficial secret alliance between Labour and LibDems! Labour barely campaigning in this LibDem target, just right next door, LibDems not campaigning much in this Labour target.
The Psephological fact in this discussion, efficiency/inefficiency of the July 24 vote.
How many LibDem seats rely on squeezed Labour and Green votes, how many Labour seats with voters who said Libdem or Green to pollsters for many years, before voting differently? Where poll of polling today has Reform 29% Labour 22% - UNS will say one thing, but the efficiency/inefficiency of the last General Election suggests something else.
Looking forwards based on we know what happened last year, we know how, to consider not just why, but find what changes in this motivation of voters during 2024 to 2029. Whatever polling is like between now and next election, we see through UNS to find evidence why 2024 result will be different at next General Election in terms of efficiency/inefficiency.
Anecdotally we have the number of PBers, surprising names, who traditionally vote Conservative, posting they would consider voting something else to stop a Prime Minister Farage and Trump/Reform ideology in government. I suggest at this particular moment in time, nothing has changed. Tory economic credibility still being rebuilt keeps Labour in power, vast majority of voters will vote at a General Election to prevent Reform from winning their constituency, creating massive vote inefficiency for Reform.
What created the particular 2024 election may be little changed at next General Election voting day, if anything even more of a stop Farage election truly motivating 75% of votes cast. Conservative and Reform up in seats, at expense of Labour and Libdems, not in anyway to dramatically change May 29 result from looking similar to 2024 result.
The two big differences with last July are:
1. The Right vote is bigger, (c.48% as opposed to 39%)
2. The Right vote is more efficient. Local council results showed former Conservatives switching in droves to Reform, in places where the latter could defeat Labour.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
"Paul Dyer, who worked on boats for 17 years before becoming a superintendent responsible for the management of a fleet, said: “The EU boats were only supposed to be able to fish in our waters for another year. Now it’s going to be another 12 years. It means a lot less income for UK fishermen.”
WTAF did these people expect? That the (clearly terrible) Boris deal would expire and then there would be no more EU boats? But they expect access to EU waters? Someone needs to explain reality to them.
Back when Boris signed the deal the fishermen were complaining about the substantially increased costs they incurred in selling their fish across the Channel. Now their costs have been substantially reduced they're still complaining.
Standing well back I suspect that there's a good case for reviewing the amount of each species caught and how, including all marine edibles.
Look at what's happened to the Newfoundland cod fisheries!
That is, I think, an annual process. The question is making the pols follow the scientific advice.
I note that in general the quota setting processes that we negotiate with Norway etc are now being completed early enough to predate the fishing season, apart from with the Faroes. TBF that was improved by the last Government too after the initial Chaotica-Boris period.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
Big deal my family fought along side an gof....sorry you may have antecedents but in the same way having irish parents and grandparent but growing up elsewhere doesnt make you irish you are just fake cornish.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
Is it vegan??
A ginsters pasty is not really edible so no idea if it is vegan or not
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
Big deal my family fought along side an gof....sorry you may have antecedents but in the same way having irish parents and grandparent but growing up elsewhere doesnt make you irish you are just fake cornish.
Actually, we might be similarly Cornish as this is exactly the kind of conversation you overhear in a mad old pub somewhere near St Erth or Gwennap or Marazion on a cold December evening
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
Big deal my family fought along side an gof....sorry you may have antecedents but in the same way having irish parents and grandparent but growing up elsewhere doesnt make you irish you are just fake cornish.
Actually, we might be similarly Cornish as this is exactly the kind of conversation you overhear in a mad old pub somewhere near St Erth or Gwennap or Marazion on a cold December evening
Apart from I was born in cornwall, grew up in cornwall and you didn't.....you grew up english
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
So what you'd saying is that you have a remarkable heritage which you abandoned ?
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
We have no shortage of prison places, so what difference does it make if he takes up a space?
Our prisons are notoriously spacious and empty right now.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
So what you'd saying is that you have a remarkable heritage which you abandoned ?
lol
Abandoned is somewhat harsh. Am I not allowed to go a-wandering? It's quite a Cornish trait - it was once said you could whistle down any mine in the world, and up would pop a Cousin Jack - a tin miner, plying his trade in South Africa or Chile or California or anywhere
On the other hand, I did catch myself thinking - the other day, and for the first time - maybe it would be nice to live out my days down in the Old Country... Falmouth ish
If I could divide my time between there and Thailand in the winter, that would be a pleasant arrangement
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
You’re being unfair on the children. They may not like the chicken nuggets in Egypt.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
You’re being unfair on the children. They may not like the chicken nuggets in Egypt.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Yup
See also Gregg's now having to put their pasties and sarnies behind glass, because of the repeated and blatant shoplifting, which goes unpunished
It's stories like this - visible to all (literally witnessed by @Casino_Royale in Gregg's last week) which is driving people to a radical solution. The sense of total unfairness the sense of life declining, the sense of criminals now totally takng the piss and our spineless government siding with anyone but the poor native honest hardworking Brits
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Whereas the complaint used to be that we're a soft touch, now people feel that there is a harder edge to the state's behaviour and that it sees facilitating all of this at their expense as almost its raison d'etre.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
You’re being unfair on the children. They may not like the chicken nuggets in Egypt.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Yup
See also Gregg's now having to put their pasties and sarnies behind glass, because of the repeated and blatant shoplifting, which goes unpunished
It's stories like this - visible to all (literally witnessed by @Casino_Royale in Gregg's last week) which is driving people to a radical solution. The sense of total unfairness the sense of life declining, the sense of criminals now totally takng the piss and our spineless government siding with anyone but the poor native honest hardworking Brits
Toxic
It's simple things like people not being able to speak to anyone at HMRC to appeal the tax demand they got because "there's no money for it" but then reading plenty of stories about HMRC staff all WFH and doing a 4 day week and getting 6 weeks off in the summer. Ordinary people now feel as though they are being taken for a ride in too many aspects of life.
The British ruling classes need to be shaken out of their complacency, I don't know if Reform are the right answer but it is surely the solution that is coming, Labour proved with their "deal" yesterday that they don't have the nation's interests at heart and there's still nothing from them on how they intend to curtail the ECHR so criminals and illegal immigrants can't use it to evade deportation, it's all just words.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Whereas the complaint used to be that we're a soft touch, now people feel that there is a harder edge to the state's behaviour and that it sees facilitating all of this at their expense as almost its raison d'etre.
I can't quite decipher that, William, but it has a whiff of being nonsense.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Yup
See also Gregg's now having to put their pasties and sarnies behind glass, because of the repeated and blatant shoplifting, which goes unpunished
It's stories like this - visible to all (literally witnessed by @Casino_Royale in Gregg's last week) which is driving people to a radical solution. The sense of total unfairness the sense of life declining, the sense of criminals now totally takng the piss and our spineless government siding with anyone but the poor native honest hardworking Brits
Toxic
It's simple things like people not being able to speak to anyone at HMRC to appeal the tax demand they got because "there's no money for it" but then reading plenty of stories about HMRC staff all WFH and doing a 4 day week and getting 6 weeks off in the summer. Ordinary people now feel as though they are being taken for a ride in too many aspects of life.
The British ruling classes need to be shaken out of their complacency, I don't know if Reform are the right answer but it is surely the solution that is coming, Labour proved with their "deal" yesterday that they don't have the nation's interests at heart and there's still nothing from them on how they intend to curtail the ECHR so criminals and illegal immigrants can't use it to evade deportation, it's all just words.
Preach it, brother
I am not at all sure Reform are the answer either, quite possibly not
But what I do know is that the British Establishment needs the fright of its life - they need to be existentially terrified, so they make genuine change and an entire class of Woke lefty lawyers and fat selfish Tories is swept away. Clearly the Brexit vote wasn't enough, so we have to go further
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Whereas the complaint used to be that we're a soft touch, now people feel that there is a harder edge to the state's behaviour and that it sees facilitating all of this at their expense as almost its raison d'etre.
I can't quite decipher that, William, but it has a whiff of being nonsense.
I think he's saying that he's mad as hell and he's not going to take it anymore.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
Never claimed cornish was widely used, just said its what my grandparents spoke and little english and if anyone is going to be the last would be warleggan
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Interesting to read of the political manoeuvrings in Cornwall.
Reform basically told the Independents they wanted to run a minority administration and offered them nothing. The LDs offered the Independents Cabinet places and the Deputy Leadership.
Reform are already sounding dangerously naive - if you don't have a majority you can't expect to have power just because you are the largest party. That's not how politics works.
Interesting to see the new administration backed by Labour, the Greens and most of the Conservatives leaving only Mebyon Kernow to abstain on the vote to be the new Leader. Again, Reform chose to abstain rather than vote against.
Just storing up a total landslide next time.
A cobbled together coalition of loonies designed to block Reform sounds perfect for Reform.
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Whereas the complaint used to be that we're a soft touch, now people feel that there is a harder edge to the state's behaviour and that it sees facilitating all of this at their expense as almost its raison d'etre.
I can't quite decipher that, William, but it has a whiff of being nonsense.
I think he's saying that he's mad as hell and he's not going to take it anymore.
I have noticed that pop right rants often close with ENOUGH.
Although William, tbf, is not a ranter. He's more of a stealth bomber.
I think the "Cornish heritage" stuff is genuine tbf.
Despite being the only known descendent of a certain well-known Viking Norman, who wasn’t Cornish in the slightest? Illegal immigrant is the most he can claim.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Yes, it must be frustrating as a real Cornishman being beset by people who claim to be Cornish but aren’t actually produced in the Cornwall region.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Yes, it must be frustrating as a real Cornishman being beset by people who claim to be Cornish but aren’t actually produced in the Cornwall region.
Maybe there should be a Cornish PDO?
Nope there shouldn't, just saying people claim to be of a culture (a lot of the time americans) while having no concept of the culture is all and yes that is annoying to people of the original culture. My son's mother was irish and one of the thing she hated for example was people in the us giving their kids irish names but without the ability to know how to pronounce them
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
I think attitudes to live in Australia vary a lot depending on whether you are in Sydney or Alice Springs or Perth! (And similar is true - of course - for the US.)
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
Indeed. Provenance and terroir are important.
My Dad was so keen for me to be born in Cornwall, he very nearly persuaded my heavily heavily pregnant mum to be driven from the Devon coast, just over the Tamar into the Duchy, to some relative's house, when the moment came
In the event, when she started having contractions, my Mum went off the idea. Perhaps not surprisingly
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
I think this stuff is overstated, people are broadly similar, but I would concur that where you grow up has a bigger impact than where you are born (where different).
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
I think the "Cornish heritage" stuff is genuine tbf.
Despite being the only known descendent of a certain well-known Viking Norman, who wasn’t Cornish in the slightest? Illegal immigrant is the most he can claim.
Oh. Well that rather undermines everything. I didn't know that.
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
I think attitudes to live in Australia vary a lot depending on whether you are in Sydney or Alice Springs or Perth! (And similar is true - of course - for the US.)
Precisely my point, doesnt matter what your antecedents. You way of thinking is informed by the early years of where you matured
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Well, at least Padstow is nice
My mum was born and grew up in Four Lanes. Do you know it?
My god, what a depressing dump. It was surely depressing even when the mines were working and there was money, but since?
Eeek
Cornwall is so strange. Exquisite beauty sits a mile from total desolation. Sometimes they exist in the very same place. Bright noom and dark noom
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
I think this stuff is overstated, people are broadly similar, but I would concur that where you grow up has a bigger impact than where you are born (where different).
See I would disagree, but maybe thats because what you would see as a little difference I see as a big difference. For example I am firmly in my word is my bond, for example if I was selling a house and accepted and offer of 100k and I had accepted I would not accept a new offer of 125k and stick with the original.
My experience of the english mindset is its hell it more money tough luck son
four lanes was quite a way from us when I grew up in padstow wadebridge 5 miles up the road was viewed with suspicion, indeed there were older people in padstow that had never travelled that far but this was back in the 70's and there was only one bus a day
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Well, at least Padstow is nice
My mum was born and grew up in Four Lanes. Do you know it?
My god, what a depressing dump. It was surely depressing even when the mines were working and there was money, but since?
Eeek
Cornwall is so strange. Exquisite beauty sits a mile from total desolation. Sometimes they exist in the very same place. Bright noom and dark noom
For desolate old mine workings by the sea I recommend the Sierra Almagrera in the Costa Almeria. Desolate scrubby hills that are practically impenetrable, with the remains of Phoenician silver mines scattered alongside more recent (19th century) efforts.
A couple of miles inland from where the Americans accidentally dropped a nuclear bomb out of a B52 in the 1950s, but managed to recover it before anything happened.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Drove to the pub in the Cobra. Got a thumbs up on the way and the party on the next table are talking about it. My ears pricked up when they mentioned Carroll Shelby (wish it was one of his). The other day I had 7 comments on just one short trip, normally white van man at traffic lights. Of all the comments only one has been from a woman and she said her boyfriend had one 40 years ago!!! I was actually filmed going down the A24 a couple of weeks ago.
Great fun.
Tip:
Cobra attracts white van man Dog attracts young women
Is there any particular part of Cornwall where the language is stronger?
Inside the dark heart of @Pagan2's most recent ayahuasca trip?
You are cornish in the same way that Irish americans are irish, take your pish elsewhere
Oh cheer up. I am gently teasing
You weren't even born in cornwall you idiot you only claim to being cornish is your father....plastic paddy land
Well, that and my Cornish mother. And Cornish grandmother, and Cornish grandfather on my Cornish mother's side, and oh yes my Cornish grandmother and Cornish grandfather, on my Cornish father's side, and all their Cornish parents, and all THEIR Cornish parents. And all THEIR Cornish parents. And the fact my Cornish grandmother - Annie Maud Jory - was so Cornish she was one of the last little girls to work up at grass as a bal maiden in a Cornish tin mine - at St Agnes in Cornwall. And then there's my Cornish cousins who actually founded Cornish Solidarity. And my other Cornish cousins in Mebyon Kernow, the Sons of Cornwall
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish neohew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
You were born in devon, you lived in hereford
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
You can't be Cornish because you can't take even the mildest joke at your expense, whereas a salty ability to self deprecate is a known trait of the Cornubians
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
I think @Pagan2 has a point. The limited amount of ancestry I can do puts all mine in London. I was born in London and lived there until exactly my 9th birthday. I don't consider myself to be a Londoner though as I have lived the vast majority of my life outside of London.
Growing up in an area gives you a cultural attitude to life, I don't believe someone who grew up in america, australia, yorkshire, cornwall will all have the same attitude to life on the whole even if they were born at the same time in the same hospital
I think this stuff is overstated, people are broadly similar, but I would concur that where you grow up has a bigger impact than where you are born (where different).
See I would disagree, but maybe thats because what you would see as a little difference I see as a big difference. For example I am firmly in my word is my bond, for example if I was selling a house and accepted and offer of 100k and I had accepted I would not accept a new offer of 125k and stick with the original.
My experience of the english mindset is its hell it more money tough luck son
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
It is hard to explain why, its just home and we all like to return when we can. Crossing the Tamar lifts my spirits in a way I don't get anywhere else in the world
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
I agree. If I want a foreign holiday without leaving the country I go to Cornwall.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
Predictably when this dickhead gets out of jail he'll win a court case to remain in the country on the basis that his wife and child have adjusted to life here and he can't be separated from his family. No, fuck the jail sentence, deport him now to Italy or Egypt. We have no need to have this fucker in our jails taking up space and resources all while we lose the ability to deport him and his family. They all should be on the plane tomorrow.
If HMG doesn't get a grip on stuff like this I don't see how Farage loses. The nation has lost all patience. You can sense it; it is palpable
It's what I said about a week ago, these are the types of cases and stories that are radicalising reliably middle of the road Tories to become much more right wing and throw their lot in with Reform. There's a sense of unfairness and injustice to British citizens that scumbags like this are able to exploit the law and take advantage of us that the Tories utterly failed to address and Labour will need to get sharp with immediately or I could see a landslide for Reform if they pledge to ignore the ECHR and deport all foreign criminals Trump style. Ordinary voters don't care for the minutia of habeus corpus and whatever we might discuss on pb, they want action and they want the criminals and illegal immigrants deported.
Yup
See also Gregg's now having to put their pasties and sarnies behind glass, because of the repeated and blatant shoplifting, which goes unpunished
It's stories like this - visible to all (literally witnessed by @Casino_Royale in Gregg's last week) which is driving people to a radical solution. The sense of total unfairness the sense of life declining, the sense of criminals now totally takng the piss and our spineless government siding with anyone but the poor native honest hardworking Brits
Toxic
The Tesco Express in my nearest town which is very well to do now resembling a corner shop out of the Wire with the dodgy definitely not Turkish barbers with no customers next door, doesn't exactly send out great vibes. This is not the current governments fault, but it certainly isn't getting any better (yet).
An anonymous Conservative source attributed the collapse in support to the Tories not “doing enough to get our voice out there and when we do it looks unserious, unprofessional, desperate and seems unremorseful for how badly we mucked up. A serious cull of the party needs to happen ASAP,” they said, adding that they “would burn the likes of Liz Truss at the stake and kick her out the party. Public execution. Start there, show we are changing and understand how badly we mucked up.”
“Stop with knee-jerk, desperate reactions like [the response to the] EU [deal] yesterday to try and play to the public. Professionalism must be the aim of the game.”
Steve Akehurst, director of Persuasion UK, a think tank which tracks public opinion, said the Tory brand is “damaged after government, but also they have basically zero definition over Reform – and Reform are getting a ton of media coverage, especially after the [local elections.]”
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
I would say it starts before then. Devon is very similar if you venture more than a few miles away from the motorway.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
I agree. If I want a foreign holiday without leaving the country I go to Cornwall.
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
It is hard to explain why, its just home and we all like to return when we can. Crossing the Tamar lifts my spirits in a way I don't get anywhere else in the world
I love Cornwall as you can gather and am hoping to get down there again in September .
An anonymous Conservative source attributed the collapse in support to the Tories not “doing enough to get our voice out there and when we do it looks unserious, unprofessional, desperate and seems unremorseful for how badly we mucked up. A serious cull of the party needs to happen ASAP,” they said, adding that they “would burn the likes of Liz Truss at the stake and kick her out the party. Public execution. Start there, show we are changing and understand how badly we mucked up.”
Presumably the source is on the run because he's facing three years in prison?
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
I agree. If I want a foreign holiday without leaving the country I go to Cornwall.
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
I agree. If I want a foreign holiday without leaving the country I go to Cornwall.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
It is hard to explain why, its just home and we all like to return when we can. Crossing the Tamar lifts my spirits in a way I don't get anywhere else in the world
I love Cornwall as you can gather and am hoping to get down there again in September .
When I moved from Cornwall in 87 to the southeast....I definitely felt like I was in a foreign land, wasn't so much that their were people their from india, pakistan etc.....just the attitudes of all people were so at odds to what I was used to regardless of race/colour/creed
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
Very interesting to read all your comments about the frustration of so many in our society. To me the problem seems to be the lack of common sense and good government. As a society we seem to want to have a high level of government spending and intervention, but for the money to be well spent and the intervention to be light touch. We don't want extremism but we do want extremely good government. Massive technological change enables us to have massive productivity improvements in government spending. I don't think the majority of the new Reform councillors will have the faintest idea how to improve local government, but some will and good luck to them.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
I agree. If I want a foreign holiday without leaving the country I go to Cornwall.
Then roller into roller curled And thundered down the rocky bay, And we were in a water world Of rain and blizzard, sea and spray, And one against the other hurled We struggled round to Greenaway. Blesséd be St Enodoc, blesséd be the wave, Blesséd be the springy turf, we pray, pray to thee, Ask for our children all happy days you gave To Ralph, Vasey, Alistair, Biddy, John and me.
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
Fuck, this is how you end up moving back, isn't it?
A couple of songs. Fierce family memories. Sadness yet happiness. Something unplaceable dragging at you, like an undertow, like some emotional gravity, surging from nowhere
"An Egyptian fisherman who helped organise the movement of more than 3,000 migrants as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation has been jailed for 25 years.
UK-based Ahmed Ebid, 42, was involved in smuggling nearly 3,800 people from North Africa to Italy between October 2022 and June 2023, with some making their way to Britain, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said."
He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.
Ebid, whose wife and sons are in the UK, had been living in Home Office-funded accommodation in south-west London at the time of his arrest.
Literally deport them all, take their fingerprints and if they ever try and return deport them instantly with no recourse to appeal. This country is a joke.
It makes me want to weep
This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
He would, therefore, have been able to launch repeated claims under the Right to Family Life.
Cornwall is a part of the country that really feels different . I’ve been down loads of times to visit friends . As soon as you cross the Tamar Bridge it just feels like you’ve entered a different country in a very good way. It’s a unique place with a sense of mystery , the place names hark back to a different time, it’s almost out worldly .
It is hard to explain why, its just home and we all like to return when we can. Crossing the Tamar lifts my spirits in a way I don't get anywhere else in the world
I love Cornwall as you can gather and am hoping to get down there again in September .
Fuck, this is how you end up moving back, isn't it?
A couple of songs. Fierce family memories. Sadness yet happiness. Something unplaceable dragging at you, like an undertow, like some emotional gravity, surging from nowhere
I AD HER I AD HER I DID
Nothing wrong with moving back already got my pyre booked for when I go
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
Quote from one of your links showing leon talking bollocks
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
As I said before when we discussed this, if your family genuinely did speak a native version of Cornish until your mother's generation, that is a fantastical survival. Truly!
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
Sadly never really learned it as my parents moved to the foreign lands of padstow
Warleggan would be a brilliant place for it to survive - it is indeed remote, brooding and strange, up on the moor
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
My parents moved to padstow before I was born but some of the tales about warleggan they told me were odd like the priest populating his church with cardboard cutouts
Sounds suitably atmospheric. The essence of Cornwall is more of a mystery to most people than much of the rest of Britain.
When you transit from devon to cornwall even the scenery changes, you switch from the sedimentary sandstone lands to the much more sharp lands of igneous granite. I cant explain why but it lifts my spirit to go home in a way devon doesn't even though they are probably equally green
Poorer yet prettier, sadder yet happier. As soon as you cross the Tamar, from the lushness of Devon
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
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This fucker was in "Home Office Accommodation" with his wife and kids. That's nice for him. Me and you were paying his fucking rent as he trafficked hostile people into the UK, or threw people overboard into the Channel
This is why we need Reform. We need seriously brutal remedies for all this. Enough
NEW: Senate Democrats are introducing a new bill today -- the DOGE BROS Act -- that drastically increases the punishments on people who meddle in sensitive government data without authorization.
Come for the story, stay for the acronym.
https://bsky.app/profile/jbendery.bsky.social/post/3lpmguxz6mc2d
And the fact that my Cornish sister and her Cornish relatives and my Cornish niece and Cornish nephew live on the beautiful outskirts of Falmouth in Cornwall about two miles from where our Cornish ancestors provably lived in the 12th century around Constantine, Helford and Gweek. In Cornwall
And my mum makes a fucking great pasty. And ace saffron buns
Yep, apart from that, not Cornish at all
"That sweet City with her dreaming spires, home of lost causes, heard to be whispering from her towers the last enchantments of the Middle Ages".
Which may be why Slough is the only place in Western Europe with a small community of people whose first language is a dialect of Aztec Nahuatl.
By Julian Stander & Mario Cortina Borja"
https://significancemagazine.com/statistically-speaking-how-long-can-the-next-pope-expect-to-live/
1. The Right vote is bigger, (c.48% as opposed to 39%)
2. The Right vote is more efficient. Local council results showed former Conservatives switching in droves to Reform, in places where the latter could defeat Labour.
Someone with the same background as you that was born in boston usa, lived in the usa is a plastic paddy not irish....you are not cornish you just have good antecedents and a plastic cornishman....sorry if the truth hurts you are no more cornish than a ginsters pasty
I note that in general the quota setting processes that we negotiate with Norway etc are now being completed early enough to predate the fishing season, apart from with the Faroes. TBF that was improved by the last Government too after the initial Chaotica-Boris period.
I forgot to mention my Cornish great ggggggggggg grandfather who got dispossessed of his Cornish manor because of his major role in the Cornish Rebellion
Our prisons are notoriously spacious and empty right now.
Abandoned is somewhat harsh. Am I not allowed to go a-wandering? It's quite a Cornish trait - it was once said you could whistle down any mine in the world, and up would pop a Cousin Jack - a tin miner, plying his trade in South Africa or Chile or California or anywhere
On the other hand, I did catch myself thinking - the other day, and for the first time - maybe it would be nice to live out my days down in the Old Country... Falmouth ish
If I could divide my time between there and Thailand in the winter, that would be a pleasant arrangement
See also Gregg's now having to put their pasties and sarnies behind glass, because of the repeated and blatant shoplifting, which goes unpunished
It's stories like this - visible to all (literally witnessed by @Casino_Royale in Gregg's last week) which is driving people to a radical solution. The sense of total unfairness the sense of life declining, the sense of criminals now totally takng the piss and our spineless government siding with anyone but the poor native honest hardworking Brits
Toxic
The British ruling classes need to be shaken out of their complacency, I don't know if Reform are the right answer but it is surely the solution that is coming, Labour proved with their "deal" yesterday that they don't have the nation's interests at heart and there's still nothing from them on how they intend to curtail the ECHR so criminals and illegal immigrants can't use it to evade deportation, it's all just words.
I am not at all sure Reform are the answer either, quite possibly not
But what I do know is that the British Establishment needs the fright of its life - they need to be existentially terrified, so they make genuine change and an entire class of Woke lefty lawyers and fat selfish Tories is swept away. Clearly the Brexit vote wasn't enough, so we have to go further
"Cornish became extinct as a living community language in Cornwall by the end of the 18th century, although knowledge of Cornish, including speaking ability to a certain extent, persisted within some families and individuals.[12] "
I find it hard to believe just because it would be so exceptional, but I don't rule it out (not that you should care for my opinion, I am just making it plain)
Indeed, I would love your story to be true! People speaking native Cornish at home into the 20th century would be sensational news for anyone with a love of linguistics. So, I hope it is true
A cobbled together coalition of loonies designed to block Reform sounds perfect for Reform.
Although William, tbf, is not a ranter. He's more of a stealth bomber.
Maybe there should be a Cornish PDO?
It was a good choice for the villain's name in Poldark
Did you live there as a tot? Do you remember it? Even now Bodmin Moor is quite freaky
In the event, when she started having contractions, my Mum went off the idea. Perhaps not surprisingly
True story!
My mum was born and grew up in Four Lanes. Do you know it?
My god, what a depressing dump. It was surely depressing even when the mines were working and there was money, but since?
Eeek
Cornwall is so strange. Exquisite beauty sits a mile from total desolation. Sometimes they exist in the very same place. Bright noom and dark noom
For example I am firmly in my word is my bond, for example if I was selling a house and accepted and offer of 100k and I had accepted I would not accept a new offer of 125k and stick with the original.
My experience of the english mindset is its hell it more money tough luck son
A couple of miles inland from where the Americans accidentally dropped a nuclear bomb out of a B52 in the 1950s, but managed to recover it before anything happened.
Great fun.
Tip:
Cobra attracts white van man
Dog attracts young women
Still, a sample of 2 proves little either way.
When I was a lad in Hereford we always used to take our holidays with the fam in Cornwall (usually my Auntie Iris in Carnkie), My God that was a long drive in the 1970s. Hours and hours. As we passed each county my Mum and Dad would sing a song for each one, something about Somerset, then "Devon Glorious Devon"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oQMZV-8p5Y
Then finally we would reach the Tamar and the whole car would launch into Trelawny as we made it into Cornwall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ere9fNgSGe8
Ah, feck, I'm about to start crying. I'd better go to the shops
Tune in again tomorrow to These Cornish Memories, Part 739
“Stop with knee-jerk, desperate reactions like [the response to the] EU [deal] yesterday to try and play to the public. Professionalism must be the aim of the game.”
Steve Akehurst, director of Persuasion UK, a think tank which tracks public opinion, said the Tory brand is “damaged after government, but also they have basically zero definition over Reform – and Reform are getting a ton of media coverage, especially after the [local elections.]”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0I9_mTX0lg
During family get togethers we all used to wear hats around the kitchen table in Truro (no idea why, a weird tradition) and we'd belt this out.
https://youtu.be/FNCcSJiZR1I?si=dbc3UETcyHSR0Wfz
And then we'd sing Going Up Camborne Hill, Coming Down
WHITE STOCKINGS, WHITE STOCKINGS SHE WORE
And thundered down the rocky bay,
And we were in a water world
Of rain and blizzard, sea and spray,
And one against the other hurled
We struggled round to Greenaway.
Blesséd be St Enodoc, blesséd be the wave,
Blesséd be the springy turf, we pray, pray to thee,
Ask for our children all happy days you gave
To Ralph, Vasey, Alistair, Biddy, John and me.
A couple of songs. Fierce family memories. Sadness yet happiness. Something unplaceable dragging at you, like an undertow, like some emotional gravity, surging from nowhere
I AD HER I AD HER I DID