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I agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene – politicalbetting.com

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edited May 6 in General
I agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene – politicalbetting.com

In a Monday interview, MAGA influencer Steve Bannon asked Greene what advice she would give to President Donald Trump as Congress tries to pass legislation based on his agenda.

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  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,675
    CASH.

    (I mean, first.)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,833
    edited May 6

    For those following the Signal/TeleMessage comedy

    https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70FA3123F00000028_7022_70RTAC21D00000006_7001

    The US government was paying for the TeleMessage version of Signal since 2023, in a Federal contract. Specifically to meet Government rules on retaining an archive of all messages.

    So it predates Trump and his mob?
    Looks like. Though who/what it was for is not clear.

    Seems very probable that it was as a result of trying to add the Federal archiving requirement to Signal use.

    Note for @kinabalu and friends - this is exactly the kind of backdoor the U.K. government is demanding that Signal install. And exactly why Signal said they would rather quit the U.K., than install such a backdoor.
    I wouldn't exactly be shocked to find that during Biden administration a load of officials were doing the same thing with Signal / Telemessage groups. Maybe not sharing the top secret military mission ETA, but being far too relaxed general cyber security and sending things around in groups that should not be (especially when this service has a backdoor).

    I am sure its the same in the UK.
    I’m fairly certain that it was because of the insistence of politicians that they can use a WhatsApp like social media app.

    So they got told - “Use this government provided version of Signal - tell your non-governmental mates to use Signal”

    Why do politicians universally demand such? It’s not just because they are tech luddites who can’t use NSAChat (invented name).

    It’s because to a politician friendship circles are life and death. They need to chat 24/7 to journalists, party contacts, corporate contacts, charity heads, Quango bosses etc etc. They need this the way a shark needs to swim, to breathe.

    To get elected, to stay on the right side of the media, to build up the “push” to the next job - they have to have this.

    Telling them to stop is telling them to die.
    The funniest bit is the FBI have used exactly these tactics capture international criminals.

    Here come get on this totally secure messaging app so the feds can't spy on you....

    Operation Trojan Shield (stylized TRØJAN SHIELD), part of Operation Ironside, was a collaboration by law enforcement agencies from several countries, running between 2018 and 2021. It was a sting operation that intercepted millions of messages sent through the supposedly secure smartphone-based proprietary messaging app ANOM (also stylized as AN0M or ΛNØM).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,830

    CASH.

    (I mean, first.)

    Going cashless is saving the lives of young children, if you're pro cash then well you're a monster.

    Decline of cash credited for drop in NHS surgery for children swallowing objects

    Figures reveal 29% fall in operations in England to remove foreign bodies from children’s airways, noses and throats


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/28/decline-of-cash-credited-for-drop-in-nhs-surgery-for-children-swallowing-objects
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 4,836
    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.
  • MaRjorie
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974
    Good morning everyone.

    Serious question: Do we have an age group + sex breakdown of how votes were cast on Thursday yet?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 748
    edited May 6
    (FPT)

    Just had a look at the route @BlancheLivermore is taking. Seems to be the Voie de la Nive to Saint-Jean. Then Chemin du Piémont Pyrénéen to Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges where it splits to the Via Garona where he is now. So far 200 miles and 25K ft of elevation.

    He'll be glad to get back to his day job and taking it a bit easier. More pics please @Blanche
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,420

    For those following the Signal/TeleMessage comedy

    https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70FA3123F00000028_7022_70RTAC21D00000006_7001

    The US government was paying for the TeleMessage version of Signal since 2023, in a Federal contract. Specifically to meet Government rules on retaining an archive of all messages.

    So it predates Trump and his mob?
    Looks like. Though who/what it was for is not clear.

    Seems very probable that it was as a result of trying to add the Federal archiving requirement to Signal use.

    Note for @kinabalu and friends - this is exactly the kind of backdoor the U.K. government is demanding that Signal install. And exactly why Signal said they would rather quit the U.K., than install such a backdoor.
    I wouldn't exactly be shocked to find that during Biden administration a load of officials were doing the same thing with Signal / Telemessage groups. Maybe not sharing the top secret military mission ETA, but being far too relaxed general cyber security and sending things around in groups that should not be (especially when this service has a backdoor).

    I am sure its the same in the UK.
    I’m fairly certain that it was because of the insistence of politicians that they can use a WhatsApp like social media app.

    So they got told - “Use this government provided version of Signal - tell your non-governmental mates to use Signal”

    Why do politicians universally demand such? It’s not just because they are tech luddites who can’t use NSAChat (invented name).

    It’s because to a politician friendship circles are life and death. They need to chat 24/7 to journalists, party contacts, corporate contacts, charity heads, Quango bosses etc etc. They need this the way a shark needs to swim, to breathe.

    To get elected, to stay on the right side of the media, to build up the “push” to the next job - they have to have this.

    Telling them to stop is telling them to die.
    The funniest bit is the FBI have used exactly these tactics capture international criminals.

    Here come get on this totally secure messaging app so the feds can't spy on you....

    Operation Trojan Shield (stylized TRØJAN SHIELD), part of Operation Ironside, was a collaboration by law enforcement agencies from several countries, running between 2018 and 2021. It was a sting operation that intercepted millions of messages sent through the supposedly secure smartphone-based proprietary messaging app ANOM (also stylized as AN0M or ΛNØM).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield
    Yup.

    Don’t worry. It is utterly certain that the backdoor/archive that the U.K. government demands, for us, won’t be a dodgy pile of shite patched together by an incompetent contractor from another country.

    It will be a shining beacon of Best Practise.

    Like the Post Office Horizon system.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,830
    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,440

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Will cancelling the state visit be our first tangible Brexit benefit?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,993

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,493

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Where are we in the queue for a great US trade deal?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,440
    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,833
    edited May 6

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,675

    CASH.

    (I mean, first.)

    Going cashless is saving the lives of young children, if you're pro cash then well you're a monster.

    Decline of cash credited for drop in NHS surgery for children swallowing objects

    Figures reveal 29% fall in operations in England to remove foreign bodies from children’s airways, noses and throats


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/28/decline-of-cash-credited-for-drop-in-nhs-surgery-for-children-swallowing-objects
    I'm teaching my kids to swallow pennies now.

    Does them good, and develops their trachea.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,830

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I know somebody in the UK film and TV industry and they saw film tariff is a hammer blow to the UK creative industries.

    Given the timeframes involving in production of movies and TV shows this is going to take years to recover if it at all.

    Trump is an economic terrorist.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 748

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    Will Shu owes all his success to a small gang of grannies from Gateshead.

    Hannah Fry did an episode of The Secret Genius of Modern Life where Will Shu discussed the mathematics behind their success. Worthwhile watching on the March of the Mathematicians in business.

    https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/comment-and-opinion/the-secret-genius-of-modern-life-hannah-fry-guides-viewers-through-mysteries-of-ordering-apps/674168.article
  • vikvik Posts: 323
    Georgia governor Brian Kemp has decided that he won't challenge Democrat John Ossoff for the Georgia Senate seat in next year's midterms.

    He clearly also realises that the midterms will be a bloodbath for Republicans & doesn't want to take the chance of being branded a loser.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,500

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    So from the Brexit benefit of lower tariffs cos we were out, to the same tariffs as the EU to higher import taxes - It’s a wild ride.

    I’m so old I can remember Starmer pulling out his state visit envelope like a third rate conjuror was described as a master stroke.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,069

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I know somebody in the UK film and TV industry and they saw film tariff is a hammer blow to the UK creative industries.

    Given the timeframes involving in production of movies and TV shows this is going to take years to recover if it at all.

    Trump is an economic terrorist.
    It's a blow to US, European and Asian filmmakers too. Just more brain fart from the dementocrat.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    So from the Brexit benefit of lower tariffs cos we were out, to the same tariffs as the EU to higher import taxes - It’s a wild ride.

    I’m so old I can remember Starmer pulling out his state visit envelope like a third rate conjuror was described as a master stroke.
    Don’t. Just the memory

    There should be a word that combines MEH with CRINGE

    MINGE?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,440

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    This is a takeover by an American firm, so there is no immediate effect on the shape of the UK market. Now to watch Battlebus's recommended television programme.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,420

    CASH.

    (I mean, first.)

    Going cashless is saving the lives of young children, if you're pro cash then well you're a monster.

    Decline of cash credited for drop in NHS surgery for children swallowing objects

    Figures reveal 29% fall in operations in England to remove foreign bodies from children’s airways, noses and throats


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/28/decline-of-cash-credited-for-drop-in-nhs-surgery-for-children-swallowing-objects
    I'm teaching my kids to swallow pennies now.

    Does them good, and develops their trachea.
    http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2017/2/18/isambard-kingdom-brunels-coin
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,518
    Nigelb said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I know somebody in the UK film and TV industry and they saw film tariff is a hammer blow to the UK creative industries.

    Given the timeframes involving in production of movies and TV shows this is going to take years to recover if it at all.

    Trump is an economic terrorist.
    It's a blow to US, European and Asian filmmakers too. Just more brain fart from the dementocrat.
    Mr. B, aye. If they do film in the US then it hikes production costs, so even more ticket sales are needed to break even. But if this goes ahead and shafts the UK (and others) it's not hard to see an anti-US film approach spring up. And while the US domestic market is very big, hiking costs and necessitating greater sales to make any profit at all means an international boycott by film-goers (even if only partial) would make it very difficult to end up in the black.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,998

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,470
    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,833

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    This is a takeover by an American firm, so there is no immediate effect on the shape of the UK market. Now to watch Battlebus's recommended television programme.
    I think you misunderstood my point. Its a game of hot potato. You either got to be the ultimate winner and hope then people will pay the real cost of delivery or get an offer and pass the hot potato. Because a) the economics don't work for the actual service and b) they know you have to keep spending insane amount of advertising to get the customers coming back, as soon as you drop off the ads, the number of users falls off quickly.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Where are we in the queue for a great US trade deal?
    The last I heard (last week) was Japan, South Korea etc are in the first rank, UK is in the second rank.

    But that was a comment quoted as coming out of the Trump regime, so it means precisely nothing.

    And when a new arrangement is made with the EU, including some form of alignment on standards, Trump may throw another tantrum.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,069

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    Sad gits.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    That is very sad
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,500

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    Not least the Russian Embassy.

    https://x.com/russianembassy/status/1919278386301575423?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I suppose it’s better than the original VE parade where the free Poles were banned from participating because it would upset Stalin.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,737

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    This is a takeover by an American firm, so there is no immediate effect on the shape of the UK market. Now to watch Battlebus's recommended television programme.
    I think you misunderstood my point. Its a game of hot potato. You either got to be the ultimate winner and hope then people will pay the real cost of delivery or get an offer and pass the hot potato. Because a) the economics don't work for the actual service and b) they know you have to keep spending insane amount of advertising to get the customers coming back, as soon as you drop off the ads, the number of users falls off quickly.
    c) Reform government in 2029 bans delivery by bicycle.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974

    CASH.

    (I mean, first.)

    Going cashless is saving the lives of young children, if you're pro cash then well you're a monster.

    Decline of cash credited for drop in NHS surgery for children swallowing objects

    Figures reveal 29% fall in operations in England to remove foreign bodies from children’s airways, noses and throats


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/28/decline-of-cash-credited-for-drop-in-nhs-surgery-for-children-swallowing-objects
    I'm teaching my kids to swallow pennies now.

    Does them good, and develops their trachea.
    As they grow, you can develop their skills to swallow Old Pennies !
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,069
    edited May 6

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    Not least the Russian Embassy.

    https://x.com/russianembassy/status/1919278386301575423?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I suppose it’s better than the original VE parade where the free Poles were banned from participating because it would upset Stalin.
    The Soviet army which actually 'liberated' Berlin was composed entirely of Ukrainian, Polish and Belorussian divisions, I believe.

    So you can understand his pique.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,518
    F1: just released Undercutters ep19 into the wild, looking back at Miami, which was much better than I expected. Quite enjoyed Hamilton's acidly sarcastic radio, and I think Norris is getting too much criticism for taking a while to pass Verstappen (Piastri took as long or longer).

    I also added a couple of sound effects, so if you listen to the podcast I'd really appreciate knowing if it feels like they're too loud/annoying or the volume's too low.

    Podbean: https://undercutters.podbean.com/e/f1-2025-miami-grand-prix-review/

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/f1-2025-miami-grand-prix-review/id1786574257?i=1000706487856

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5A2VFFZzTHjXLjfkkaEs2p

    Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/bcfe213b-55fb-408a-a823-dc6693ee9f78/episodes/c5e242a8-ccd6-43e2-9916-67bb4819e677/undercutters---f1-podcast-f1-2025-miami-grand-prix-review

    Transcript: https://morrisf1.blogspot.com/2025/05/f1-2025-miami-grand-prix-review.html
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172
    The WFA debacle has cost Labour many votes but if the rumours are correct and they are considering ways to ameliorate the problem they are just making it worse and will not regain votes by backtracking

    They made their decision and should stay with it and try to move on
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,069

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    What if he were running against Trump for Pope, and you were a cardinal ?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974
    edited May 6

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I had a (perhaps optimistic, & slightly lengthy) go at that one on another platform over the weekend where they had been trying to analyse the Canada-USA relationship. This is lightly edited:

    Both UK and Europe are playing a twin-track game, and I'd say Starmer and also Macron have been doing a very good (not quite excellent) strategic job, including working alongside Zelensky. The perspective is subtly different from USA-Canada. For Europe Trump is a strategic threat, but EU + the rest are big enough to face him down in time and be the core of a new world trading system where international law still rules and the USA is marginalised - unlike Trump's desired free for all. UK is pivoting back to a closer position with the EU, more like Norway. OTOH we have a far more intimate relationship with the US than most of Europe, via Five Eyes and so on; in that respect the UK is more like Canada.

    Starmer has a couple of very experienced hands in Peter Mandelson and Jonathon Powell in key positions. He's been weaker domestically.

    The need is to keep the USA onside (ie avoid Trump tantrums) whilst moving Europe to a position where it can deal with Ukraine / Russia without needing the USA very much, and halting Trump's aim of creating a 3 polar USA / Russia / China world with Europe as meat to be carved up, whilst not having Trump pull out NATO and Europe in a short time. That means strategic autonomy - which imo France is now shown as having been better prepared for than the UK.

    Meanwhile we need time for Europe to wake up and get organised (think Germany, Italy, Spain). We are making progress there, but it is a process of several years, and the more we keep the USA on side on the ground, the closer Trump is to the end of his term (or his life) and the further we can get.

    Notable achievements recently are that Trump has signed a deal with Ukraine which is roughly what Ukraine wanted, rather than Trump's proposed surrender to Putin, and mutual carve up / looting of Ukraine to the USA's benefit. He has signed the principles and is now engaged for 6-12 months to negotiate the final version, in which time he will be less likely to surrender to Putin or just walk away on eg intelligence support.

    Also Europe is now in a position to meet Ukraine's artillery needs with non-USA allies including Canada, which will further reduce USA leverage, and help defang Trump / Vance. Europe itself is already 2/3 of the way to delivering the 2 million 155mm shells promised for this year, and it is only 4 months in.

    There's a long way to go, but they are still walking the tightrope. There's also the question as to whether the USA relationships can be salvaged post-Trump; keeping 2/3 or 3/4 of it if the USA stays a democracy would be better than a total loss.

    Of course, we still have tactical arguments with the French - c'est la vie since 1066.


    It was under this Times Radio Youtube.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tc8T1jnIEE&lc=UgzNKEHKuAHkgnutQt54AaABAg
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172
    Nigelb said:

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    What if he were running against Trump for Pope, and you were a cardinal ?
    I would spoil my ballot - NOTA
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,470

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    Not least the Russian Embassy.

    https://x.com/russianembassy/status/1919278386301575423?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I suppose it’s better than the original VE parade where the free Poles were banned from participating because it would upset Stalin.
    They are rather ignoring when Russia was on Hitler's side via the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, or the millions of Ukrainians who fought for Russia after 1941. But it seems that Russians, and pro-Russian shitbags over here, forget all the non-Russians who fought for the USSR against the Nazis. In their eyes, it was solely a Russian victory.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,493

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    Under any circumstances?

    Suppose the next election resolved into a Farage-Starmer showdown.

    Or, more fancifully, BNP-Starmer? There's always a point where a voter has to find a clothes peg for their nose.

    And yes, if Romford is a Ref-Con fight next time, the appalling Andrew Rosindell has my vote. Even though Buster the bull terrier was always the brains of the operation, and he's dead now.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,069

    Nigelb said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I know somebody in the UK film and TV industry and they saw film tariff is a hammer blow to the UK creative industries.

    Given the timeframes involving in production of movies and TV shows this is going to take years to recover if it at all.

    Trump is an economic terrorist.
    It's a blow to US, European and Asian filmmakers too. Just more brain fart from the dementocrat.
    Mr. B, aye. If they do film in the US then it hikes production costs, so even more ticket sales are needed to break even. But if this goes ahead and shafts the UK (and others) it's not hard to see an anti-US film approach spring up. And while the US domestic market is very big, hiking costs and necessitating greater sales to make any profit at all means an international boycott by film-goers (even if only partial) would make it very difficult to end up in the black.
    We're both wrong, apparently.

    Leavitt: The trade deals are continuing to move along in a positive and productive direction.. You had a new announcement yesterday, tariffs on the film industry. We are going to make Hollywood great again and it's one of the many great proposals the president has had to make our country boom again and to bring jobs back here
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1919566244203884742
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,500
    Nigelb said:

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    Not least the Russian Embassy.

    https://x.com/russianembassy/status/1919278386301575423?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I suppose it’s better than the original VE parade where the free Poles were banned from participating because it would upset Stalin.
    The Soviet army which actually 'liberated' Berlin was composed entirely of Ukrainian, Polish and Belorussian divisions, I believe.

    So you can understand his pique.
    Mixed record, difficult to separate the heroic bravery from the rapey, looty stuff. Of course the (possibly false) revisionist story is it was the support units coming in after the initial assault that did all the bad stuff.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172
    edited May 6

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    Under any circumstances?

    Suppose the next election resolved into a Farage-Starmer showdown.

    Or, more fancifully, BNP-Starmer? There's always a point where a voter has to find a clothes peg for their nose.

    And yes, if Romford is a Ref-Con fight next time, the appalling Andrew Rosindell has my vote. Even though Buster the bull terrier was always the brains of the operation, and he's dead now.
    I will not vote for Starmer under any circumstances

    I can vote Conservative, Plaid, or Lib Dem but never Labour especially having lived under Labour in Wales for years
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,470
    Two riders dies yesterday in a superbike race at Oulton Park. RIP.

    A reminder that motorsport, especially motorbikes, will never be 100% safe. I hope the other injured riders recover quickly.

    https://x.com/everythingmrace/status/1919481378007113757
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,470

    Nigelb said:

    A lot of bots people are getting angry on Twix over the fact a few Ukrainians took part in the V.E. day celebrations.

    Not least the Russian Embassy.

    https://x.com/russianembassy/status/1919278386301575423?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I suppose it’s better than the original VE parade where the free Poles were banned from participating because it would upset Stalin.
    The Soviet army which actually 'liberated' Berlin was composed entirely of Ukrainian, Polish and Belorussian divisions, I believe.

    So you can understand his pique.
    Mixed record, difficult to separate the heroic bravery from the rapey, looty stuff. Of course the (possibly false) revisionist story is it was the support units coming in after the initial assault that did all the bad stuff.
    A podcast I listened to the other day *claimed* far worse abuses occurred in the east of Germany, before they reached Berlin.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,352
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I know somebody in the UK film and TV industry and they saw film tariff is a hammer blow to the UK creative industries.

    Given the timeframes involving in production of movies and TV shows this is going to take years to recover if it at all.

    Trump is an economic terrorist.
    It's a blow to US, European and Asian filmmakers too. Just more brain fart from the dementocrat.
    Mr. B, aye. If they do film in the US then it hikes production costs, so even more ticket sales are needed to break even. But if this goes ahead and shafts the UK (and others) it's not hard to see an anti-US film approach spring up. And while the US domestic market is very big, hiking costs and necessitating greater sales to make any profit at all means an international boycott by film-goers (even if only partial) would make it very difficult to end up in the black.
    We're both wrong, apparently.

    Leavitt: The trade deals are continuing to move along in a positive and productive direction.. You had a new announcement yesterday, tariffs on the film industry. We are going to make Hollywood great again and it's one of the many great proposals the president has had to make our country boom again and to bring jobs back here
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1919566244203884742
    Every time I see a statement from somebody in the Trump administration I think they are perhaps the dumbest person that has ever lived

    And then another comes along and trumps them...
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974

    Nigelb said:

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    What if he were running against Trump for Pope, and you were a cardinal ?
    I would spoil my ballot - NOTA
    I'm not sure whether it is a secret ballot or not.
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 121

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Not a chance for me .
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,653

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    Because, we don’t want him to actively side with Putin. That means holding one’s tongue.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,916

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    This is a takeover by an American firm, so there is no immediate effect on the shape of the UK market. Now to watch Battlebus's recommended television programme.
    I think you misunderstood my point. Its a game of hot potato. You either got to be the ultimate winner and hope then people will pay the real cost of delivery or get an offer and pass the hot potato. Because a) the economics don't work for the actual service and b) they know you have to keep spending insane amount of advertising to get the customers coming back, as soon as you drop off the ads, the number of users falls off quickly.
    The insane amount of advertising by these companies isn't to promote the product, it's really to boost the share price beyond what it was at the last investment round so the current investors, who aren't necessarily the original ones, can cash out. In this sense Deliveroo's business model might be working a charm.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,440
    edited May 6

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,146
    edited May 6

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I think you have answered your own question. Place yourself in the PM's position. The world's greatest power and closest ally has a deranged leader, who has not said that he wants to make you the 51st state, but has the facility to keep nuclear weapons on your Suffolk lawns, and for decades has treated, with permission, much of East Anglia as an aircraft carrier in the North Atlantic. If he decides to threaten your country you have no obvious means of defence.

    Outline your strategy for the PM.
    Does it include pre-emptive denunciations of Trump and the USA?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,518
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    I know somebody in the UK film and TV industry and they saw film tariff is a hammer blow to the UK creative industries.

    Given the timeframes involving in production of movies and TV shows this is going to take years to recover if it at all.

    Trump is an economic terrorist.
    It's a blow to US, European and Asian filmmakers too. Just more brain fart from the dementocrat.
    Mr. B, aye. If they do film in the US then it hikes production costs, so even more ticket sales are needed to break even. But if this goes ahead and shafts the UK (and others) it's not hard to see an anti-US film approach spring up. And while the US domestic market is very big, hiking costs and necessitating greater sales to make any profit at all means an international boycott by film-goers (even if only partial) would make it very difficult to end up in the black.
    We're both wrong, apparently.

    Leavitt: The trade deals are continuing to move along in a positive and productive direction.. You had a new announcement yesterday, tariffs on the film industry. We are going to make Hollywood great again and it's one of the many great proposals the president has had to make our country boom again and to bring jobs back here
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1919566244203884742
    I've got a biography of King John, arguably England's worst ever king (Aethelred the Unready being the only rival). I do wonder if Trump's worse. The strategic damage to the USA as other nations seek to reduce business due to lack of confidence in their fickle and bizarre ways is not going to be minor.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,532

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    When the current iteration of the Tory Party are Nigey adjacent surely like HY they will throw their hats into an inch perfect RefCon government. Deportation of immigrants, hanging and flogging, Grammar schools and a Trump parallel foreign policy. What's not to like for the Trussian hoardes?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,740
    vik said:

    Georgia governor Brian Kemp has decided that he won't challenge Democrat John Ossoff for the Georgia Senate seat in next year's midterms.

    He clearly also realises that the midterms will be a bloodbath for Republicans & doesn't want to take the chance of being branded a loser.

    And burning through his cash pike in the process.

    Curious to know if Musk will also draw in his horns in supporting Republicans in the mid-terms.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,263

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    I would. As I said before the last election if we had still been in Dundee West instead of Angus I would have voted Labour in the hope of keeping the SNP out. I feel pretty similar about Reform. Had I been in Runcorn I would have voted Labour.

    As I have lamented a few times recently positive reasons to vote for anyone are thin to non existent. It is a matter of voting against the worst rather than for anything good.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
    Leon is ALWAYS right

    I know this coz I have just heard praise of my opinions from a Nobel prize winner

    True story
  • isamisam Posts: 41,475
    edited May 6
    A Labour MP writes

    Can you hear that familiar sound? The engines of the liberal establishment are revving up to explain why Reform’s success is definitely not down to the one thing we know it definitely is; immigration”

    “Labour has morphed into a hyper-liberal party


    https://x.com/jonathan_hinder/status/1919310898247643422?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,532
    edited May 6
    Leon said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
    Leon is ALWAYS right

    I know this coz I have just heard praise of my opinions from a Nobel prize winner

    True story
    So you know someone who won a toy Dulux dog at B and Q. Big deal!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974
    edited May 6

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    This is a takeover by an American firm, so there is no immediate effect on the shape of the UK market. Now to watch Battlebus's recommended television programme.
    I think you misunderstood my point. Its a game of hot potato. You either got to be the ultimate winner and hope then people will pay the real cost of delivery or get an offer and pass the hot potato. Because a) the economics don't work for the actual service and b) they know you have to keep spending insane amount of advertising to get the customers coming back, as soon as you drop off the ads, the number of users falls off quickly.
    c) Reform government in 2029 bans delivery by bicycle.
    On that c), are there any actual Reform Councils with "Rip Out The Cycle Lanes" pledges (ignoring the disabled people who use mobility aids)?

    Now that Reform control a number of Local Highways Authorities, this will be a convenient "not us" political target. They will need some when they find their more windy aspirations are not in their grasp.

    We have seen this before. Ben Houchen did some of that in Middlesborough wrt Linthorpe Road. That was a game of political football, but what had been installed was a pile of not to standard (eg they used Orca separators, which are a trip hazard) crap anyway.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4y45yp8pwo

    Darker speculation was that it was deliberate move to create a reason to take it out. I'm not sure on that.

    And there are a few other examples of political removal, sometimes over the objections of locals - Kensington High Street being one, where afaik the "extra" lane created is now once again blocked by parked cars that are not enforced upon.

    There's also one in Bristol where removal was followed by a couple of deaths in the next months. And a case I would have to look up where poor drivers complained that they kept driving into the separators, so it should be removed.

    I would expect the same in Norwich if it goes RefUK next year, where I think the County (who are generally not good) now control the city's streets.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,561

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    When the current iteration of the Tory Party are Nigey adjacent surely like HY they will throw their hats into an inch perfect RefCon government. Deportation of immigrants, hanging and flogging, Grammar schools and a Trump parallel foreign policy. What's not to like for the Trussian hoardes?
    You forgot sending children up chimneys
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,740

    CASH.

    (I mean, first.)

    Going cashless is saving the lives of young children, if you're pro cash then well you're a monster.

    Decline of cash credited for drop in NHS surgery for children swallowing objects

    Figures reveal 29% fall in operations in England to remove foreign bodies from children’s airways, noses and throats


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/28/decline-of-cash-credited-for-drop-in-nhs-surgery-for-children-swallowing-objects
    I'm teaching my kids to swallow pennies now.

    Does them good, and develops their trachea.
    The flip side of the, er, coin is that it takes stoopid out of the gene pool...
  • eekeek Posts: 29,943

    vik said:

    Georgia governor Brian Kemp has decided that he won't challenge Democrat John Ossoff for the Georgia Senate seat in next year's midterms.

    He clearly also realises that the midterms will be a bloodbath for Republicans & doesn't want to take the chance of being branded a loser.

    And burning through his cash pike in the process.

    Curious to know if Musk will also draw in his horns in supporting Republicans in the mid-terms.
    I think Musk has to keep the threat of supporting a challenger open as otherwise some Republicans may rebel against project 2025 in an attempt to protect their seats. Now that probably only works until June 26 (after the primary season is in progress) but it's enough to keep Republicans in line until then..
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335
    edited May 6
    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,439
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?
  • vikvik Posts: 323

    vik said:

    Georgia governor Brian Kemp has decided that he won't challenge Democrat John Ossoff for the Georgia Senate seat in next year's midterms.

    He clearly also realises that the midterms will be a bloodbath for Republicans & doesn't want to take the chance of being branded a loser.

    And burning through his cash pike in the process.

    Curious to know if Musk will also draw in his horns in supporting Republicans in the mid-terms.
    Musk seems to have undergone a genuine conversion into a right-wing extremist, and has also burned most of his bridges with liberals & the Democratic Party.

    I think he will try to give as much support as he can to try & reduce the Democrats' expected House majority & prevent them from gaining the Senate.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335

    Leon said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
    Leon is ALWAYS right

    I know this coz I have just heard praise of my opinions from a Nobel prize winner

    True story
    So you know someone who won a toy Dulux dog at B and Q. Big deal!
    I’ll leave it to you to guess the Nobel prize winner
  • eekeek Posts: 29,943
    Leon said:

    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry

    Ignore China as that's a world of it's own. The overseas box office ignoring China is worth more than the US box office nowadays.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,532

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?

    Look on the bright side. A war with Russia recedes completely on the election of a Reform Government.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335
    edited May 6

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?

    I’m gonna hazard a wild guess that this will have absolute fucking negative minus nano-zero impact on the good or bad polling of Reform. It’s the non-storiest non-story since I tried to make a big deal out of Labour discussing “burner phones”
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,357

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?

    Reform famously ran Woking, Nottingham and Birmingham councils recently.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,308
    I’m surprised Kemp didn’t go for the Georgia senate seat .

    Even when the GOP were losing those seats he was easily winning the governorship . It’s good news for Osoff especially if the loathsome Greene wins the GOP primary.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172
    DavidL said:

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    I would. As I said before the last election if we had still been in Dundee West instead of Angus I would have voted Labour in the hope of keeping the SNP out. I feel pretty similar about Reform. Had I been in Runcorn I would have voted Labour.

    As I have lamented a few times recently positive reasons to vote for anyone are thin to non existent. It is a matter of voting against the worst rather than for anything good.
    Actually we are in a similar position living under devolved governments and I can understand the need to keep SNP away from government and voting Labour makes sense

    Here in Wales I want Welsh Labour out of Office and will not vote Labour
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,500
    edited May 6
    Leon said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
    Leon is ALWAYS right

    I know this coz I have just heard praise of my opinions from a Nobel prize winner

    True story
    Was it Henry Kissinger in a seance?

    On that theme, I read that that horrible old blood and soil fascist Daniella Weiss recently interviewed by Louis Theroux has been put forward for the Nobel Peace Prize, a depressing indication of where Israel is now.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,833
    edited May 6
    Visa applications for some nationalities could be restricted

    Visa applications from nationalities thought most likely to overstay and claim asylum in the UK could be restricted under a new government crackdown.

    Under Home Office plans, first reported in the Times, external, people from countries such as Pakistan, Nigeria and Sri Lanka may find it more difficult to come to the UK to work and study.

    Ministers believe there is a particular problem with those who come to the UK legally on work or study visas and then lodge a claim for asylum - which if granted, would allow them to stay in the country permanently.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0wd75ne82o

    COULD be the operative word here.
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 732
    What I want to know from Leon is: When you are doing cod with chorizo, do you add fennel seeds? I have been looking at various recipes and can't decide.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,532
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
    Leon is ALWAYS right

    I know this coz I have just heard praise of my opinions from a Nobel prize winner

    True story
    So you know someone who won a toy Dulux dog at B and Q. Big deal!
    I’ll leave it to you to guess the Nobel prize winner
    I have neither the time, inclination or interest to check. Why waste my ltime when you won't be able to resist telling us before 9.30.

    Anyway I'm off. It's far too Reformy to post on here today.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,172

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?

    The problem is the publics perception is the other parties are not running local government properly anyway

    That's not to say Reform will be any better though
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry

    Ignore China as that's a world of it's own. The overseas box office ignoring China is worth more than the US box office nowadays.
    But China is the biggest single movie market on Earth. And Trump has just cut America out of that market. Madness

    He believes you can bully and bluff your way to a good deal. That’s his “art of the deal”

    But China is now far too big to be bullied and too smart to be bluffed. Meanwhile I imagine every producer in Hollywood is staring at balance sheets in despair
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,740
    edited May 6
    On topic, the fear of losing the mid-terms* means Trump II has no more than 18 months to get his agenda through. Which means bigger, bolder, faster MAGA.

    Which requires Trump to tell ever bigger lies. Like not that long ago, the US made 100% of all movies. There miggt just come a point at which his credibility is completely shot with the Trump-voting base. And then what? The 25th Amendment is no use, as his replacement is Continuity MAGA.

    *I don't see cancellation of the mid-terms as an option. It would be a collision course with the Supreme Court and possibly 2/3rds of Congress. And the bond market...
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,974
    edited May 6

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?

    For me one big question will be what they divert onto as distractions - which may be of the intelligence level of Musk's Boobs taking down the picture of the Enola Gay bomber (dropped the first atomic bomb) from the website because it has "gay" in it.

    We need to minimise collateral damage if (when imo - others may differ) RefUK turns out to be a Klutz Collective. It won't be hilarious for those on the receiving end.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,916
    SandraMc said:

    What I want to know from Leon is: When you are doing cod with chorizo, do you add fennel seeds? I have been looking at various recipes and can't decide.

    If you like fennel seeds add them and if you don't, don't, would be my advice.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,943
    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry

    Ignore China as that's a world of it's own. The overseas box office ignoring China is worth more than the US box office nowadays.
    But China is the biggest single movie market on Earth. And Trump has just cut America out of that market. Madness

    He believes you can bully and bluff your way to a good deal. That’s his “art of the deal”

    But China is now far too big to be bullied and too smart to be bluffed. Meanwhile I imagine every producer in Hollywood is staring at balance sheets in despair
    For the last few years few Western films have actually gone to China - it’s not the market you think it is - as with India the market prefers its own films
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,500
    edited May 6
    DavidL said:

    (1/5)

    With Labour apparently following the Cameron playbook, have they won over any former moderate voters who would now pick Labour over Reform?

    This may be useful in tight contests. The New Statesmen opines this be the case.

    Why don't you do a straw poll of PB? BG North Wales, Marquee Mark, David L are all very moderate Tories, ask them if they would lend their vote to Sir in order to keep Reform out. Some of them might do?
    Good morning

    I would not vote for Starmer under any circumstances
    I would. As I said before the last election if we had still been in Dundee West instead of Angus I would have voted Labour in the hope of keeping the SNP out. I feel pretty similar about Reform. Had I been in Runcorn I would have voted Labour.

    As I have lamented a few times recently positive reasons to vote for anyone are thin to non existent. It is a matter of voting against the worst rather than for anything good.
    In which world is Anas Sarwar not the worst? Well, except the with Russell Findlay market I guess.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,730
    FF43 said:

    SandraMc said:

    What I want to know from Leon is: When you are doing cod with chorizo, do you add fennel seeds? I have been looking at various recipes and can't decide.

    If you like fennel seeds add them and if you don't, don't, would be my advice.
    Fennel pollen is something to explore (if you like fennel). Really quite an interesting flavour.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,740
    vik said:

    vik said:

    Georgia governor Brian Kemp has decided that he won't challenge Democrat John Ossoff for the Georgia Senate seat in next year's midterms.

    He clearly also realises that the midterms will be a bloodbath for Republicans & doesn't want to take the chance of being branded a loser.

    And burning through his cash pike in the process.

    Curious to know if Musk will also draw in his horns in supporting Republicans in the mid-terms.
    Musk seems to have undergone a genuine conversion into a right-wing extremist, and has also burned most of his bridges with liberals & the Democratic Party.

    I think he will try to give as much support as he can to try & reduce the Democrats' expected House majority & prevent them from gaining the Senate.
    Except...he seems to be genuinely livid about Trump's tariffs.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,833
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry

    Ignore China as that's a world of it's own. The overseas box office ignoring China is worth more than the US box office nowadays.
    But China is the biggest single movie market on Earth. And Trump has just cut America out of that market. Madness

    He believes you can bully and bluff your way to a good deal. That’s his “art of the deal”

    But China is now far too big to be bullied and too smart to be bluffed. Meanwhile I imagine every producer in Hollywood is staring at balance sheets in despair
    For the last few years few Western films have actually gone to China - it’s not the market you think it is - as with India the market prefers its own films
    Its no wonder, have you seen the dross Hollywood have been putting out....
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,146

    On topic, the fear of losing the mid-terms* means Trump II has no more than 18 months to get his agenda through. Which means bigger, bolder, faster MAGA.

    Which requires Trump to tell ever bigger lies. Like not that long ago, the US made 100% of all movies. There miggt just come a point at which his credibility is completely shot with the Trump-voting base. And then what? The 25th Amendment is no use, as his replacement is Continuity MAGA.

    *I don't see cancellation of the mid-terms as an option. It would be a collision course with the Supreme Court and possibly 2/3rds of Congress. And the bond market...

    SFAICS cancelling the mid-terms is unlikely, but rigging them is overwhelmingly likely. Cancelling is not deniable; rigging the outcome is very much deniable.

    But there is a small but growing chance of a progression in which there is a 'Reichstag fire' moment or series of events, followed by invoking emergency laws and emergency powers including cancellation. Trump is of course already doing this by pretending to be in an emergency/war situation to justify EOs bypassing congress. Trump has form for extreme positions. It's all gone on for so long that we forget how extreme all this is - like 6th January is becoming normalised for many people.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,439
    Leon said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/reform-accused-of-hypocrisy-after-advertising-home-working-jobs-nigel-farage

    Lol.
    It's going to be hilarious watching Reform trying to run various things, what are they going to do once they run out of non-existent diversity officers to fire?

    I’m gonna hazard a wild guess that this will have absolute fucking negative minus nano-zero impact on the good or bad polling of Reform. It’s the non-storiest non-story since I tried to make a big deal out of Labour discussing “burner phones”
    No doubt, but stories like this will keep coming, because Reform is the party for the angry man, shaking his fist at reality, raging at straw men, fighting the tide of the modern world. I get all that, I am turning 50, I can play the grumpy old man too. But they have no solutions, just perpetual outrage and low grade stupidity. Hopefully their ineptitude will be on full display as they throw council tax payers' money into fights against electricity pylons and the like. At least it's not my money.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,991
    Leon said:

    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry

    It's not just that the rest of the world are producing more films. It's also that American films have been getting worse and worse for some time. Films aren't like cars: whereas you might be able to say 'if I can't have a Tesla I'll have the Chinese equivalent', the language element for films makes them a lot less fungible. But when almost everything coming out of Hollywwod is dross, even the English language advantage isn't the benefit it might be.

    American TV, though, I think is still quite good - I wonder if that will be tarriffed too? Hard to say where to draw the line between one and another.

    Caveat: I know very little about this subject so am happy to be contradicted.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,475

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    No state visit!

    Britain’s tariff burden worse than EU

    British products are subject to higher total US import taxes than those from Continent


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/05/britains-tariff-burden-worse-than-eu-despite-trump-brussels/

    Why is the Starmer government continuing to even try to pretend that the US government is a reliable partner?

    I know that we are enmeshed on defence and intelligence. And all it takes is one EO for Trump to end that. We can try to head that off by playing nice but as we have seen Trump is inconsistent because he's totally mad.

    We need to be part of the international community organising against Trump's America, not fawning away as if they are still our ally. They are not.

    Be more Carney.
    The trouble with being more Carney and being more anti-Trump is that @Leon might be right about our destination being more nationalist leaders around the world, but wrong about the cause. The new driving force might not be anti-wokeism but rather the need to rally to the flag against Trump's America.

    ETA and if Leon is right then Leon-sceptics are wrong, and their calls to oppose Trump risk boosting the nationalists – the polar opposite of their intention.
    Leon is ALWAYS right

    I know this coz I have just heard praise of my opinions from a Nobel prize winner

    True story
    So you know someone who won a toy Dulux dog at B and Q. Big deal!
    I’ll leave it to you to guess the Nobel prize winner
    I have neither the time, inclination or interest to check. Why waste my ltime when you won't be able to resist telling us before 9.30.

    Anyway I'm off. It's far too Reformy to post on here today.
    The new Phil Collins! "If the Tories win I'm leaving the country"
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Trump’s film tariffs are a special kind of madness. Again it seems to come from a perception he has of a hegemonic America as it was in 1989 or 1993. He believes America is still that powerful and, if it isn’t, the mere exercise of presidential will can restore that power

    Back then in 1989 Hollywood WAS utterly dominant
    and could boss the global film biz. Now the Chinese market is actually bigger and is, for the first time, generating Chinese movies that gross more than American movies


    “Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 made global history as the world’s highest-grossing film in a single market on Friday. It beat Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens, which made $936.7 million in North America. As of 10 pm on Friday, Ne Zha 2 had made box office revenue of 6.82 billion yuan ($940.7 million), according to ticketing platform Maoyan”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328035.shtml

    And this isn’t a one-off, there are lots of these huge Chinese movies now

    So if the USA imposes massive movie tariffs China can hit back with similar tariffs, knowing that it now makes its own movies which are more popular than Hollywood. And that cuts Hollywood out of the biggest market on earth - China - a devastating blow to the US entertainment industry

    Ignore China as that's a world of it's own. The overseas box office ignoring China is worth more than the US box office nowadays.
    But China is the biggest single movie market on Earth. And Trump has just cut America out of that market. Madness

    He believes you can bully and bluff your way to a good deal. That’s his “art of the deal”

    But China is now far too big to be bullied and too smart to be bluffed. Meanwhile I imagine every producer in Hollywood is staring at balance sheets in despair
    For the last few years few Western films have actually gone to China - it’s not the market you think it is - as with India the market prefers its own films
    This is simply untrue. Hollywood is desperate to stay in the Chinese market BECAUSE it is so big


    “China is a vital market for the U.S. film industry. Here's how the trade war could have major impacts.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-us-film-industry-trump-trade-tension-impacts/
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,027

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    Will it work even then?
    My local cash-only(!) Chinese takeaway uses local delivery drivers, some of whom are private-hire drivers when the shop is closed.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 60,335
    SandraMc said:

    What I want to know from Leon is: When you are doing cod with chorizo, do you add fennel seeds? I have been looking at various recipes and can't decide.

    Here’s the entire recipe. Brainstormed it with a genius chef friend

    Spicy Baked Cod with Chorizo, Sambal Oelek & Fragrant Seeds
    Serves: 1  Time: 35–40 minutes
    Mood: Smoky, spicy, aromatic — with a bright, zesty finish

    Ingredients
    Main dish:
    • 1 cod fillet (150–180g), or hake/haddock
    • 50g cooking chorizo, sliced into half-moons
    • 1 small shallot or ½ onion, finely chopped
    • 1 garlic clove, thinly sliced
    • 1 Bird’s Eye chili, finely chopped
    • ½ tsp hot smoked paprika
    • ½ tsp sambal oelek
    • 100g cherry tomatoes, halved
    • 100g tinned butter beans, drained and rinsed
    • ½ tsp fennel seeds
    • ¼ tsp black mustard seeds
    • 2–3 tbsp white wine or sherry
    • 1 tbsp olive oil
    • Salt and black pepper
    • Wedge of lemon, to serve
    • Fresh parsley or coriander, chopped (optional)
    • Drizzle of chili oil or olive oil, to finish (optional)
    • Optional final touch: ½–1 tsp Togarashi-su (Japanese chili vinegar)
    To serve:
    • Warm crusty bread
    • Small green salad with simple vinaigrette

    Instructions
    1. Preheat oven to 200°C (fan 180°C) / 400°F.
    2. In a small ovenproof frying pan or baking dish, heat the olive oil over medium. Add the mustard seeds and fennel seeds and let them sizzle for 30 seconds.
    3. Add the chorizo and cook for 2–3 minutes until it releases its rich oil.
    4. Add shallot, garlic, and Bird’s Eye chili. Cook gently for 2–3 minutes.
    5. Stir in the cherry tomatoes, butter beans, paprika, sambal oelek, and wine. Season with salt and pepper. Simmer 5 minutes until it thickens slightly.
    6. Nestle the cod fillet on top. Drizzle with a little olive oil. Spoon sauce around the fish.
    7. Bake uncovered for 15–20 minutes, until the fish is cooked through and flakes easily.
    8. Meanwhile, warm the bread and toss your salad.
    9. When the fish is done, squeeze over lemon juice, scatter with herbs, and drizzle with chili oil if using.
    10. Optional final flourish:
    Stir in or drizzle ½–1 tsp chili vinegar (Togarashi-su) just before serving, to lift the flavours with a clean, tangy heat.



  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,137
    I don’t think the US will go ahead with a “tariff” on films.

    First of all, you can’t put customs duty on intangibles. The whole system is based on goods being taxed as they clear customs. So the “tariff” has to operate by some other means. Essentially, a withholding tax.

    To levy WHT on films would require changes to domestic tax law. It would also infringe just about every tax treaty the US has. That kind of change has to go through the house and senate, it can’t generally be done by executive order. Which means being part of the tax reform package this Autumn. Seems unlikely to me.

    There are other levers they are planning to pull (also going through the tax reform process currently) that retaliate against other OECD tax regimes, and those are nasty and affect intangible transactions, but they are very different from a film tax.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,388
    edited May 6
    Scott_xP said:

    Every time I see a statement from somebody in the Trump administration I think they are perhaps the dumbest person that has ever lived

    And then another comes along and trumps them...

    Lutnick, or Nutlick as Canadians call him, is one of the dumbest. He's ranting about Canada's "socialist regime", you know the Canada with an ex-central bank governer as PM and a King.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,250
    MattW said:

    Deliveroo agrees to £2.9bn takeover by DoorDash
    ...
    The deal is the latest example of a UK-listed company being taken over by a US rival.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yr1nz7jwko

    In this situation, the whole business model doesn't work, so the only play is ultimately a monopoly or duopoly. So loads of these companies are just waiting for the offer.
    This is a takeover by an American firm, so there is no immediate effect on the shape of the UK market. Now to watch Battlebus's recommended television programme.
    I think you misunderstood my point. Its a game of hot potato. You either got to be the ultimate winner and hope then people will pay the real cost of delivery or get an offer and pass the hot potato. Because a) the economics don't work for the actual service and b) they know you have to keep spending insane amount of advertising to get the customers coming back, as soon as you drop off the ads, the number of users falls off quickly.
    c) Reform government in 2029 bans delivery by bicycle.
    On that c), are there any actual Reform Councils with "Rip Out The Cycle Lanes" pledges (ignoring the disabled people who use mobility aids)?

    Now that Reform control a number of Local Highways Authorities, this will be a convenient "not us" political target. They will need some when they find their more windy aspirations are not in their grasp.
    Worcestershire under Tory control had a policy of not building any cycle lanes - or rather, they wouldn't do anything that took space away from motorists, which has meant a remarkable programme of building shiny new cycle/pedestrian bridges but nothing else. So now Reform are the largest party I don't expect anything to change. Maybe fewer bridges.

    The frothing about "omg Reform are now in charge of councils" elides the fact that, in several cases, these councils were previously run by the most little-Englander Conservatives that you could imagine. I don't expect much to change in Worcestershire.
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