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  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,119
    "A former judge at the Supreme Court has said he believes convicted serial baby killer Lucy Letby is 'probably innocent'.

    Jonathan Sumption claimed those questioning her convictions 'are too numerous and too well qualified to be dismissed as troublemakers'.

    He said that although the summing up by the judge in Letby's trials was 'impeccable' and the Court of Appeal 'meticulously examined the evidence' prior to dismissing her bids to appeal, there were 'serious anomalies' in the case which cast 'doubt' on the safety of the jury verdicts."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14553061/supreme-court-judge-Lucy-Letby-innocent.html
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,013
    Andy_JS said:

    "A former judge at the Supreme Court has said he believes convicted serial baby killer Lucy Letby is 'probably innocent'.

    Jonathan Sumption claimed those questioning her convictions 'are too numerous and too well qualified to be dismissed as troublemakers'.

    He said that although the summing up by the judge in Letby's trials was 'impeccable' and the Court of Appeal 'meticulously examined the evidence' prior to dismissing her bids to appeal, there were 'serious anomalies' in the case which cast 'doubt' on the safety of the jury verdicts."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14553061/supreme-court-judge-Lucy-Letby-innocent.html

    I'm nervous around the phrase "probably innocent". I certainly think that there have been some very serious question raised about her conviction, and there definitely needs to be a proper - and deep - relook at the evidence.

    However, the data around the insulin to c-peptide levels either requires one to believe the test is fundamentally unsound (certainly possible), or that there were murders, and someone else perpetrated them.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,070


    BBC Archive
    @BBCArchive
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    14h
    To mark Mother's Day, we go back to 1980, when Roy Castle was introduced to five generations of mums in The Record Breakers studio. Mrs Violet Lewis, born on 12 June, 1885, was then the UK's only living great-great-great-grandmother.

    https://x.com/BBCArchive/status/1906239977773818334

    My niece missed out on having a living great great grandmother alive by a month.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,323

    “Instead of Trump’s Birthday, make ‘Liberation Day’ a national holiday to honor the jobs, skills, and trade that returned to America and her workers,” says Steve Bannon.

    https://x.com/FrankLuntz/status/1906401893087084850

    Apart from the celebrating failure, Brexity vibe, it is pretty clear that even basic economics like competitive advantage is beyond the neo fascists of project 2025.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,855
    vik said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Fareed Zakaria
    @FareedZakaria

    “Putinism has won in the US.”

    My conversation with Russian political philosopher Alexander Dugin – known to some as “Putin’s brain” – on the ideological bond between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin:


    https://x.com/FareedZakaria/status/1906411271412396268

    Fortunately for the US:

    (1) It's a very Federal system, with strong States, and the ability of the centre to make (say) California or New York do shit is relatively limited
    (2) Trump is old
    (3) Hopefully, the courts will push back against any attempts to prevent opponents of the regime from being allowed to stand

    Because (3) is what has fucked Russia: if you represent any challenge to Putin, then you're locked up and/or unable to stand in elections.

    Putin was able to become a dictator because he was genuinely popular, with 80% approval ratings in the early 2000s.

    As long as Trump has below 50% approval ratings, then he won't succeed in his dreams of becoming a dictator.

    The big risk factor is a major terror attack of the same severity as 9/11.

    Bush managed to get to 80% approval after 9/11, and the risk is that Trump might get to similar approval levels and then try to use the national emergency to assume dictatorial powers.
    Which is pretty well what happened in Turkey.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,855
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A former judge at the Supreme Court has said he believes convicted serial baby killer Lucy Letby is 'probably innocent'.

    Jonathan Sumption claimed those questioning her convictions 'are too numerous and too well qualified to be dismissed as troublemakers'.

    He said that although the summing up by the judge in Letby's trials was 'impeccable' and the Court of Appeal 'meticulously examined the evidence' prior to dismissing her bids to appeal, there were 'serious anomalies' in the case which cast 'doubt' on the safety of the jury verdicts."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14553061/supreme-court-judge-Lucy-Letby-innocent.html

    I'm nervous around the phrase "probably innocent". I certainly think that there have been some very serious question raised about her conviction, and there definitely needs to be a proper - and deep - relook at the evidence.

    However, the data around the insulin to c-peptide levels either requires one to believe the test is fundamentally unsound (certainly possible), or that there were murders, and someone else perpetrated them.
    Am I being unfair in thinking that Sumption's evident enjoyment of media attention has perhaps degraded the quality of his judgment ?
    (FWIW, I have no view either way on the Letby case.)
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,991
    It is clear that Welby was unsuited to being Archbishop of Canterbury.
    Every time he opened his gob he caused offence.
    He is the one who should be be asking for forgiveness not offering it to a paedophile.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,991
    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ATfVHLtnb/

    She's not very good at this is she.....
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,824
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    It is clear that Welby was unsuited to being Archbishop of Canterbury.
    Every time he opened his gob he caused offence.
    He is the one who should be be asking for forgiveness not offering it to a paedophile.

    You are surely not suggesting that he bears legal and moral responsibility for voluntarily acquired legal and moral responsibilities?

    That is nothing lesson than an attack on the fundamentals of our society.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,404

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  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,868

    It is clear that Welby was unsuited to being Archbishop of Canterbury.
    Every time he opened his gob he caused offence.
    He is the one who should be be asking for forgiveness not offering it to a paedophile.

    Perhaps he views himself as the main victim in this affair. Perhaps he sees it as a kind of crucifixion?
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