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SystemSystem Posts: 12,358
edited March 7 in General
At least 20% of Reform MPs are revolting – politicalbetting.com

? Farage acts like a ‘messiah’, says Reform MPFirst public rift emerges after Elon Musk appears to tout Rupert Lowe as a future leader of the partyhttps://t.co/NWWQKgQIjo

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  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,933
    They say you want a revolution ...
    first?
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,301
    The revolution will be tweeted?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,897
    Rupert Lowe is just another old posh guy
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,657
    geoffw said:

    They say you want a revolution ...
    first?

    I hope and strongly suspect that by the time UK voters have seen what a 'revolution' along Reform type radical right/Trumpski/Musk/DOGE/Putin love lines means for a country they will tell Nigel or Rupert to do one.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,460
    Does someone need to point out that the Farage is not the Messiah, but in fact a very naughty boy?
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 257

    Rupert Lowe is just another old posh guy

    Oh, I think you will find he's a bit more than that! There have been various discussions in City circles about his business practices in the past, of which his stewardship of Southampton Football Club is only the most obvious.....
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    FPT for @Leon

    Have you been? I’m looking for Uruguay tips - something unusual. I’m doing the normal Montevideo, wine country, punta del este itinerary. It would be good to squeeze in something unusual. A bit of NOOM

    Everything I’ve read indicates Uruguay is rather devoid of Noom. Pleasant and sunny and all that but no noom


    Not been, I’m afraid. Good place for nuclear escape though. That’s sort of noomy by association.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    Excitement building for this afternoon’s agility singles finals
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,134
    edited March 7
    On topic: Reform meltdown

    Complaints against Lowe referred to the police by Zia Yusuf.

    https://x.com/mrharrycole/status/1898058063846019397
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,188

    Does someone need to point out that the Farage is not the Messiah, but in fact a very naughty boy?

    I did, in the header.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,292
    Broken sleazy Reform on the slide.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881

    On topic: Reform meltdown

    Complaints against Lowe referred to the police by Zia Yusuf.

    https://x.com/mrharrycole/status/1898058063846019397

    Fucksake


    This is always the risk with small parties. They can’t afford internal strife

    Maybe I will have to heed the call of my nation after all
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,078
    @maggieNYT

    NEWS: Inside the explosive Cabinet meeting where Musk clashed with Trump's appointees.

    https://x.com/maggieNYT/status/1898058005611991528

    Mr. Musk was unimpressed. He told Mr. Rubio he was “good on TV,” with the clear subtext being that he wasn’t good for much else. Throughout all of this, the president sat back in his chair, arms folded, as if he were watching a tennis match.

    After the argument dragged on for an uncomfortable time, Mr. Trump finally intervened to defend Mr. Rubio as doing a “great job.” Mr. Rubio has a lot to deal with, the president said. He is very busy, he is always traveling and on TV, and he has an agency to run. So everyone just needs to work together.

    The meeting was a potential inflection point after the frenetic first weeks of Mr. Trump’s second term. It yielded the first significant indication that Mr. Trump is willing to put some limits on Mr. Musk, whose efforts have become the subject of several lawsuits and prompted concerns from Republican lawmakers, some of whom have complained directly to the president.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 849

    Rupert Lowe is just another old posh guy

    Oh, I think you will find he's a bit more than that! There have been various discussions in City circles about his business practices in the past, of which his stewardship of Southampton Football Club is only the most obvious.....
    How did his covid test kit firm justify claiming furlough cash FFS?
    Literally the only reason they'd have employed people is because of Covid.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,078
    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH
  • PJHPJH Posts: 756
    This hihglights two things.

    Firstly that Farage is difficult to work with, as previous splits in the UKIP MEP body demonstrated. If Reform have 5 MPs at the end of the parliament, I would be very astonished if they are the same 5 as now.

    Secondly, as I mentioned yesterday, Lowe is too old, and Reform don't have anyone young enough to be a leader in waiting.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH

    Yep, I’m holding a sell position that’s now doing rather nicely. The DJE is down again today, currently, as well.

    Tesla soared after Trump’s win, from a price already inflated on the assumption of continued sales growth. If sales are plummeting around the world, as early data suggests, they’ve got some way to fall yet.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    Reform starting to discover Tory-style internal squabbling is surely a godsend for the actual Tories. The history of UKIP suggests that’s what really buries them.

    And indeed the history of Conservatives and Labour.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,078
    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001

    Rupert Lowe is just another old posh guy

    He seems to have been randomly feted by the online right, and it's made him get a big head and think he can take on Farage in his own party?

    Also, as PJH notes, Farage apparently is just very hard to work with. Though I think part of it is the atmosphere the party wants to foster makes its people harder to control - I felt that way with Boris and the 2019 intake, even if his own positions were more flexible than his campaign rhetoric might be, many of those elected were true believers.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,897
    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    Boring. I’ve seen this episode already
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881
    TimS said:

    FPT for @Leon

    Have you been? I’m looking for Uruguay tips - something unusual. I’m doing the normal Montevideo, wine country, punta del este itinerary. It would be good to squeeze in something unusual. A bit of NOOM

    Everything I’ve read indicates Uruguay is rather devoid of Noom. Pleasant and sunny and all that but no noom


    Not been, I’m afraid. Good place for nuclear escape though. That’s sort of noomy by association.

    That’s a bit attenuated

    Maybe I’ll just have to satisfy myself with the basic strangeness of being in “Uruguay”. Which, I guess, is what you’re saying
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    edited March 7
    Scott_xP said:

    @maggieNYT

    NEWS: Inside the explosive Cabinet meeting where Musk clashed with Trump's appointees.

    https://x.com/maggieNYT/status/1898058005611991528

    Mr. Musk was unimpressed. He told Mr. Rubio he was “good on TV,” with the clear subtext being that he wasn’t good for much else. Throughout all of this, the president sat back in his chair, arms folded, as if he were watching a tennis match.

    After the argument dragged on for an uncomfortable time, Mr. Trump finally intervened to defend Mr. Rubio as doing a “great job.” Mr. Rubio has a lot to deal with, the president said. He is very busy, he is always traveling and on TV, and he has an agency to run. So everyone just needs to work together.

    The meeting was a potential inflection point after the frenetic first weeks of Mr. Trump’s second term. It yielded the first significant indication that Mr. Trump is willing to put some limits on Mr. Musk, whose efforts have become the subject of several lawsuits and prompted concerns from Republican lawmakers, some of whom have complained directly to the president.

    I don't respect most of the appointees, but at least they are proper appointees. Musk is just a rich arsehole who no longer seems able to keep his mouth shut for five seconds.

    At least give some more time to your companies, Elon!
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    edited March 7
    IanB2 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH

    Yep, I’m holding a sell position that’s now doing rather nicely. The DJE is down again today, currently, as well.

    Tesla soared after Trump’s win, from a price already inflated on the assumption of continued sales growth. If sales are plummeting around the world, as early data suggests, they’ve got some way to fall yet.
    I’m always too cowardly to make big calls on time. I thought about bunging everything into bonds and money market funds a couple of weeks ago but chickened out. Now it’s too late. My late exits and late re-entries during both the Eurozone crisis and the start of the Ukraine war cost me a lot.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    So the first of five dogs in the Small category finals is off and running, Drift, a collie cross, last years winner. 31 seconds and clear - a good start.

    Now Selfie, shades into the lead by hundredths of a second, clear

    Third goes Sizzle, a team GB member. No room for error, now. Sadly eliminated, goes round the back of the fence.

    Fourth, Spider the spaniel. Looks slower than the collies, five faults, jumps off the dog walk before the marker. 32.4

    Finally Taxi, looking fast. Another spaniel. 32.8 and clear.

    So Selfie wins, by 0.11 seconds
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,868
    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH

    Don'tBuyATesla. ;)
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    edited March 7
    TimS said:

    Reform starting to discover Tory-style internal squabbling is surely a godsend for the actual Tories. The history of UKIP suggests that’s what really buries them.

    And indeed the history of Conservatives and Labour.

    Reform seemed to have gotten their poll rise perfectly timed for a good local elections, and I've heard they have lots of candidates, better organisation than before, and some decent cash as well. Would be interesting to see if it becomes a bit of a damp squib.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,766
    Was it David Cameron who said the genius of UKIP, as was at the time, that you can have a backbench rebellion in a party with just one MP?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    FPT for @Leon

    Have you been? I’m looking for Uruguay tips - something unusual. I’m doing the normal Montevideo, wine country, punta del este itinerary. It would be good to squeeze in something unusual. A bit of NOOM

    Everything I’ve read indicates Uruguay is rather devoid of Noom. Pleasant and sunny and all that but no noom


    Not been, I’m afraid. Good place for nuclear escape though. That’s sort of noomy by association.

    That’s a bit attenuated

    Maybe I’ll just have to satisfy myself with the basic strangeness of being in “Uruguay”. Which, I guess, is what you’re saying
    Yes, won a couple of world cups then disappeared from popular consciousness.

    Paraguay looks weirder. I knew someone who spent 6 months there working on some sort of ranchy farm before having a breakdown and escaping.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,657
    Bloomberg
    @business
    ·
    3h
    A flurry of tankers carrying Canadian fuels destined for the US are starting to divert to Europe as President Donald Trump’s tariffs create uncertainty and scramble energy flows across key regions https://trib.al/6N48xTQ
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,003
    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    According to him they're reciprocal

    https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2025/html/00/ch04-eng.html#wb-auto-4

    401.20.20 00 Milk and cream, not concentrated nor containing added sugar or other sweetening matter. - Of a fat content, by weight, exceeding 1% but not exceeding 6% - Over access commitment HLT 241% but not less than $34.50/hl

    I think
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881
    Overall london health check sitrep


    I’ve just walked from Highgate down to Camden. Giving London an MOT

    Result?

    Positive. London feels good. Busy. Prosperous. Young. Dynamic. Lots of once empty shops are now
    in use. Camden in particular is rammed. Not sure why - midweek? Also - I sense more people back in the office

    Of course the spring sun helps. As does half a bottle of Albariño and some decent oysters with an old pal

    But still. London thrives. If only the rest of the country had the same pzazz
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,370

    Bloomberg
    @business
    ·
    3h
    A flurry of tankers carrying Canadian fuels destined for the US are starting to divert to Europe as President Donald Trump’s tariffs create uncertainty and scramble energy flows across key regions https://trib.al/6N48xTQ

    Even worse:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/33725520/uk-banana-shortage-storms/
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    A fast clear round for spaniel Baileys, from Spain, at 30.7 seconds

    Next another GB team member, competition holders, collie - but it all goes wrong. Eliminated. They’re pushing to beat that first fast time.

    Next Maggie, collie cross, last years number two. Five faults. 33.2.

    Last of the Medium dogs, Willow the spaniel. It’s fast. 31.2 secs, goes into second.

    Baileys wins. Ole
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    Leon said:



    But still. London thrives. If only the rest of the country had the same pzazz

    Might there be a connection?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,821
    More disgraceful comments from the stain on humanity . Effectively green lighting Putins invasion of Ukraine .
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,625
    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    He is all over the place. For a businessman, he seems not to understand business at all.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,553
    Reform are looking for a new leader to become Prime Minister in waiting.

    Well how about this chap. Boris Johnson nominated for two literary awards for his book Unleashed. Best fiction book in the World ever, and best audio book in the World ever.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/national/24988920.gillian-anderson-boris-johnson-among-british-book-awards-nominees/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193

    On topic: Reform meltdown

    Complaints against Lowe referred to the police by Zia Yusuf.

    https://x.com/mrharrycole/status/1898058063846019397

    Wasn't he a "rising star" ?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429

    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH

    Don'tBuyATesla. ;)
    I see them on the street now and it’s impossible not to think “Musk”. A bit like there’s still a strange CCP feeling when you spot a BYD. I can’t see how they can pull that back.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,625

    Bloomberg
    @business
    ·
    3h
    A flurry of tankers carrying Canadian fuels destined for the US are starting to divert to Europe as President Donald Trump’s tariffs create uncertainty and scramble energy flows across key regions https://trib.al/6N48xTQ

    I wonder how that works in practice? Not an easy diversion to make. I wonder what the route was, and what it now is?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,188
    edited March 7
    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193
    "BREAKING: Mexican Cartels abandon Canada after being forced to conduct business in both English and French "
    https://x.com/TheBeaverton/status/1897690024172568684
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,109
    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    He is all over the place. For a businessman, he seems not to understand business at all.
    Oh god it’s that time of day isn’t it. UK prime time = Trump time.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,625
    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH

    Well this is enjoyable news. But it only brings them back to where they were. Hopefully he has sufficiently trashed his brand that there is a lot further yet to fall.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193
    Great Yarmouth spy ring.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2gx52xqqpo
    ..Gaberova, of Euston, north London, Ivanova, of Harrow, north London, and Ivanchev, of Acton, west London, were convicted of conspiracy to spy, while Ivanova was also convicted of possessing multiple false identity documents.
    They were working for fellow Bulgarian Orlin Roussev, 47, who ran the spy ring from a 33-room former guest house in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk.
    Here police found a "treasure trove" of spying gadgets and equipment, including cameras hidden in ties, a camera hidden in a fake rock, and glasses containing recording equipment.
    Roussev previously admitted conspiracy to spy, alongside Biser Dzhambazov, 43, of Harrow, while a sixth defendant, Ivan Stoyanov, 34, of Greenford, west London, admitted spying before the trial.
    The cell's key targets were investigative journalists Christo Grozev and Roman Dobrokhotov, whose work includes exposing Russia's role in the nerve agent attacks on Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny in 2020 and Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018.
    As part of the surveillance, Gaberova was instructed to befriend Mr Grozev, with Roussev describing him as "hooked and in love" with her in WhatsApp messages.
    Another operation included carrying out surveillance at a military site where Ukrainian soldiers were being trained, around the time of Russia's invasion of the country in 2022...

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    Now the Intermediates.

    Funky the Collie 31.6 secs clear.

    Another Willow, collie, goes next, eliminated, it all goes wrong.

    Third is collie Banana. Goes clear at 30.1; top Banana!

    Finally Streak the collie. Fast. But five faults, knocks a pole. 31.3

    Banana wins !
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,078
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    He is all over the place. For a businessman, he seems not to understand business at all.
    America will be his 7th bankruptcy
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,254
    FF43 said:

    Was it David Cameron who said the genius of UKIP, as was at the time, that you can have a backbench rebellion in a party with just one MP?

    Was that Bob Spink? He could start an argument in an empty room.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    Of course he does, he understands naked avarice and aggression, so he just gets Putin better.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881
    edited March 7
    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    FPT for @Leon

    Have you been? I’m looking for Uruguay tips - something unusual. I’m doing the normal Montevideo, wine country, punta del este itinerary. It would be good to squeeze in something unusual. A bit of NOOM

    Everything I’ve read indicates Uruguay is rather devoid of Noom. Pleasant and sunny and all that but no noom


    Not been, I’m afraid. Good place for nuclear escape though. That’s sort of noomy by association.

    That’s a bit attenuated

    Maybe I’ll just have to satisfy myself with the basic strangeness of being in “Uruguay”. Which, I guess, is what you’re saying
    Yes, won a couple of world cups then disappeared from popular consciousness.

    Paraguay looks weirder. I knew someone who spent 6 months there working on some sort of ranchy farm before having a breakdown and escaping.
    Oh yes I YEARN for Paraguay. If I had the time I’d add on a week and check it out. Sadly my calendar is too intense

    One of the reason I want to go there is because John Gimlette wrote a book on it. On Paraguay. And he’s one of my favourite travel writers. His book on Sri Lanka - Elephant Complex - is superb: a masterclass in how to capture a nation - history, culture, ethos, potential noom - in one volume
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    edited March 7

    Bloomberg
    @business
    ·
    3h
    A flurry of tankers carrying Canadian fuels destined for the US are starting to divert to Europe as President Donald Trump’s tariffs create uncertainty and scramble energy flows across key regions https://trib.al/6N48xTQ

    I speculated to a journalist yesterday (will be keeping an eye out for a quote on Sunday) that in some categories US tariffs could mean UK deflation. The example I gave was Mexican avocados, but Canadian fuel is another interesting example.

    Outside a few sectors where there’s a risk of dumping undermining UK manufacturers, our economy is quite nicely set up to benefit from diverted imports.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193
    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    In, out, shake it all about...

    I don't think he has a clue what he's doing.
    He just wants to be doing 'stuff'.
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 257
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    *TESLA SHARES ERASE ELECTION RALLY, DOWN 48% FROM RECORD HIGH

    Well this is enjoyable news. But it only brings them back to where they were. Hopefully he has sufficiently trashed his brand that there is a lot further yet to fall.
    I seem to recall that there was once an eminent right-winger who pointed out (accurately!) that "You cannot beat the Market". Musk has done a Ratner and trashed his own brand to the power of a thousand.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,078
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    In, out, shake it all about...

    I don't think he has a clue what he's doing.
    He just wants to be doing 'stuff'.
    Brian Stelter posted a December 9, 2017, quote from the New York Times:

    "Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals."

    Stelter wrote: “I think about this quote a lot.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,821
    kle4 said:

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    Of course he does, he understands naked avarice and aggression, so he just gets Putin better.
    He wants to stop the death apparently by removing intelligence and military aid so more Ukrainians die !

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    What the fuck is he on about ?

    Has Musk slipped him some ketamine ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    He is all over the place. For a businessman, he seems not to understand business at all.
    He knows how to find an angle and bluff. His property businesses seemed to be absolutely chaotically run, and based around telling banks and lenders one thing and the tax authorities something else - his main defence in the fraud trial was that he puts in a disclaimer that his estimations are nonsense.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    Now the four large dogs.

    First is Copernicus the collie, from Wales. 32.1 clear - looks tough to beat at this size.

    Legacy the brown collie is next. It’s fast. 31.1 but five faults

    Lemon the black collie goes next, with the handler who just won the intermediates with Banana. Goes into the lead by 0.04 of a second !!

    Last one, Eclipse, five early faults at the weaves, then eliminated.

    Lemon wins by a whisker
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 257

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    I hope their potential voters (and financial backers) wake up and realise this soon. On the subject of Russia/Ukraine, Reform are completely out of step with the British public.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,429
    nico67 said:

    kle4 said:

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    Of course he does, he understands naked avarice and aggression, so he just gets Putin better.
    He wants to stop the death apparently by removing intelligence and military aid so more Ukrainians die !

    He wants to stop the Russian death.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,134
    https://x.com/llggeorgia/status/1898061115113746888

    Going after Rupert Lowe on “misogyny grounds” when your party selected an MP who went to jail for kicking his ex-girlfriend is wild btw
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    edited March 7
    nico67 said:

    kle4 said:

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    Of course he does, he understands naked avarice and aggression, so he just gets Putin better.
    He wants to stop the death apparently by removing intelligence and military aid so more Ukrainians die !

    He's about one step down from a Final Fantasy villain, several of which have done a 'people suffer and that's terrible, so if everyone is killed there will be no more suffering!' approach. And about one step up (maybe) from a Corbyn approach - only because the latter lacks the power to make things worse.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,821
    TimS said:

    nico67 said:

    kle4 said:

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    Of course he does, he understands naked avarice and aggression, so he just gets Putin better.
    He wants to stop the death apparently by removing intelligence and military aid so more Ukrainians die !

    He wants to stop the Russian death.
    I so wish we could tell him to fxck off .
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,657
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    In, out, shake it all about...

    I don't think he has a clue what he's doing.
    He just wants to be doing 'stuff'.
    Brian Stelter posted a December 9, 2017, quote from the New York Times:

    "Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals."

    Stelter wrote: “I think about this quote a lot.
    This. 100x this. I have mentioned it before I think.

    It is the only way to even begin to make sense of the shitshow.

    He thinks he is still in the Apprentice.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    Nigelb said:

    Sky News.

    Trump 'finding it more difficult to deal with Ukraine' - and says he believes Putin

    Ukraine has to "get on the ball and get the job done", Donald Trump says now as he answers questions on the war.

    "They're bombing the hell out of Ukraine... I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine," he adds.

    Russia has "all the cards", he says, and says it "may be easier" to deal with Moscow, despite their position.

    Asked if he believes Vladimir Putin when he says he wants peace, Trump says "yeah... I believe him".

    What the fuck is he on about ?

    Has Musk slipped him some ketamine ?
    There was plenty of speculation in Democratic circles online that Trump gets hopped up on pills (which he also accused Biden of, funnily enough) from Ronny Jackson, formerly his chief medical adviser, but it may be hopecasting like rumours of Putin being seriously unwell.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193
    Historic Montgomery Bus Station, Freedom Riders Museum part of DOGE-ordered sell-off
    https://www.alreporter.com/2025/03/06/historic-montgomery-bus-station-freedom-riders-museum-part-of-doge-ordered-sell-off/
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    You did criticise Farage's Putin stance during the 2024 GE.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,188
    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    You can never question the patriotism or loyalty of anyone else.

    You are a traitor, you have been elevated from a fucking appeaser.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,134
    Lowe hits back:

    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1898064525007462499

    I am disappointed, but not surprised, to read Reform’s untrue and false allegations. Let me be abundantly clear - this investigation is based on zero credible evidence against me, as has been repeatedly stated by the neutral investigator. None has been provided.

    I have cooperated and spoken at length with the KC they instructed, at great cost to the party, to investigate a minor staff matter.

    I have just spoken to the KC. She is dismayed that this statement has been made, and reiterated that no evidence against me has been sent to her. She stated that this has been issued before the investigation has even started.

    [...]

    I do not believe that Reform members will be pleased to know that their membership fees are being spent on instructing expensive lawyers to investigate their own MPs, over matters that are entirely baseless and have been dealt with in the correct Parliamentary procedure, with HR’s full involvement and support. The staff member in question only raised a vexatious complaint once disciplinary proceedings had been initiated against them for serious wrongdoing. The other individual mentioned, dropped her appeal.

    If they want to kick me out over false claims, they’ll have to finally present some credible evidence against me. There is none, as the KC has just told me. Again.

    A complete inability to accept even the most mild constructive criticism without such a malicious reaction is not effective leadership.

    This is our party as much as it is Nigel’s.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    Cookie said:

    Bloomberg
    @business
    ·
    3h
    A flurry of tankers carrying Canadian fuels destined for the US are starting to divert to Europe as President Donald Trump’s tariffs create uncertainty and scramble energy flows across key regions https://trib.al/6N48xTQ

    I wonder how that works in practice? Not an easy diversion to make. I wonder what the route was, and what it now is?
    They were heading south and are now heading east?

    Just a guess.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193
    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    No.
    But it doesn't change the fact you're cheering a pack of risibles.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,160
    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    Nah, you voted for Labour just like I did :lol:
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001

    Lowe hits back:

    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1898064525007462499

    I am disappointed, but not surprised, to read Reform’s untrue and false allegations. Let me be abundantly clear - this investigation is based on zero credible evidence against me, as has been repeatedly stated by the neutral investigator. None has been provided.

    I have cooperated and spoken at length with the KC they instructed, at great cost to the party, to investigate a minor staff matter.

    I have just spoken to the KC. She is dismayed that this statement has been made, and reiterated that no evidence against me has been sent to her. She stated that this has been issued before the investigation has even started.

    [...]

    I do not believe that Reform members will be pleased to know that their membership fees are being spent on instructing expensive lawyers to investigate their own MPs, over matters that are entirely baseless and have been dealt with in the correct Parliamentary procedure, with HR’s full involvement and support. The staff member in question only raised a vexatious complaint once disciplinary proceedings had been initiated against them for serious wrongdoing. The other individual mentioned, dropped her appeal.

    If they want to kick me out over false claims, they’ll have to finally present some credible evidence against me. There is none, as the KC has just told me. Again.

    A complete inability to accept even the most mild constructive criticism without such a malicious reaction is not effective leadership.

    This is our party as much as it is Nigel’s.

    This is is a welcome distraction, a bit of no holds barred party infighing is always fun. Though if one side is vastly stronger than the other I'm not sure how much longer the entertainment will run.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    Next up is the vulnerable breeds competition
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,193
    .

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @josh_wingrove

    Trump just pledged new tariffs on Canada, either for lumber and dairy (or maybe everything, it's unclear) -- as soon as today, or on Monday or Tuesday. He's speaking in the Oval Office still.

    In, out, shake it all about...

    I don't think he has a clue what he's doing.
    He just wants to be doing 'stuff'.
    Brian Stelter posted a December 9, 2017, quote from the New York Times:

    "Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals."

    Stelter wrote: “I think about this quote a lot.
    This. 100x this. I have mentioned it before I think.

    It is the only way to even begin to make sense of the shitshow.

    He thinks he is still in the Apprentice.
    That was heavily edited to create some semblance of organisation.
    This is live.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    No.
    But it doesn't change the fact you're cheering a pack of risibles.
    I'm not cheering *them*, they are a mere vehicle. All I want is a firmly, confidently, Singaporey rightwing party in government, and if Reform are too stupid to seize the moment, then let someone else do it. I am sure it will happen, because it is happening across the western world
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881

    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    You can never question the patriotism or loyalty of anyone else.

    You are a traitor, you have been elevated from a fucking appeaser.
    Frankly, I don't know how I will recover from this mortal blow
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,654

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    I hope their potential voters (and financial backers) wake up and realise this soon. On the subject of Russia/Ukraine, Reform are completely out of step with the British public.
    Reform are on the back foot and could explode; in which case they might be replaced by something more unpleasant.

    But for the moment to have a known pro Trump, Russia appeasing, populist fantasising outfit around and contained is OK tactically. All that is needed, even if Reform stay on 25%+ of the vote, is for millions of ordinary voters to vote in the next GE for the party, LD,Lab or Tory, that can beat Reform.

    Reform are so positioned that, as things stand, this would happen.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001
    edited March 7
    Saw a comment online saying a centre-right party leader (meaning Farage) could not be cosying up to a hard left communist dictator (meaning Putin), which apart from anything else suggests some people have not mentally updated their impression of Russia in the last 3 decades.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    A whole load of spaniels and terriers you’ve never heard of. And a Welsh Corgi
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881
    edited March 7
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    You did criticise Farage's Putin stance during the 2024 GE.
    Yes, that's why I didn't vote for them. His statement on Putin was UGH

    However Farage has been better on Ukraine/Trump since...

    But he is a problem for Reform as much as he is an asset. Indeed the problem is, in part, that he IS such an asset. He overshadows everyone else, and he has political skills none of the others possess. He IS Reform to most voters

    That's fine if you are essentially a one issue pressure group like UKIP: they were remarkably succcessful at achieving their one objective. Brexit. They did it

    But Farage is trying to grow a real political party here, that can credibly compete for the next GE, the trouble is to do this, Reform itself must outgrow Farage
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,134
    kle4 said:

    Lowe hits back:

    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1898064525007462499

    I am disappointed, but not surprised, to read Reform’s untrue and false allegations. Let me be abundantly clear - this investigation is based on zero credible evidence against me, as has been repeatedly stated by the neutral investigator. None has been provided.

    I have cooperated and spoken at length with the KC they instructed, at great cost to the party, to investigate a minor staff matter.

    I have just spoken to the KC. She is dismayed that this statement has been made, and reiterated that no evidence against me has been sent to her. She stated that this has been issued before the investigation has even started.

    [...]

    I do not believe that Reform members will be pleased to know that their membership fees are being spent on instructing expensive lawyers to investigate their own MPs, over matters that are entirely baseless and have been dealt with in the correct Parliamentary procedure, with HR’s full involvement and support. The staff member in question only raised a vexatious complaint once disciplinary proceedings had been initiated against them for serious wrongdoing. The other individual mentioned, dropped her appeal.

    If they want to kick me out over false claims, they’ll have to finally present some credible evidence against me. There is none, as the KC has just told me. Again.

    A complete inability to accept even the most mild constructive criticism without such a malicious reaction is not effective leadership.

    This is our party as much as it is Nigel’s.

    This is is a welcome distraction, a bit of no holds barred party infighing is always fun. Though if one side is vastly stronger than the other I'm not sure how much longer the entertainment will run.
    I think Farage might have miscalculated this time. He's not used to running a party with this level of support so it will be much harder to manage internal opinion.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,397
    kle4 said:

    Lowe hits back:

    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1898064525007462499

    I am disappointed, but not surprised, to read Reform’s untrue and false allegations. Let me be abundantly clear - this investigation is based on zero credible evidence against me, as has been repeatedly stated by the neutral investigator. None has been provided.

    I have cooperated and spoken at length with the KC they instructed, at great cost to the party, to investigate a minor staff matter.

    I have just spoken to the KC. She is dismayed that this statement has been made, and reiterated that no evidence against me has been sent to her. She stated that this has been issued before the investigation has even started.

    [...]

    I do not believe that Reform members will be pleased to know that their membership fees are being spent on instructing expensive lawyers to investigate their own MPs, over matters that are entirely baseless and have been dealt with in the correct Parliamentary procedure, with HR’s full involvement and support. The staff member in question only raised a vexatious complaint once disciplinary proceedings had been initiated against them for serious wrongdoing. The other individual mentioned, dropped her appeal.

    If they want to kick me out over false claims, they’ll have to finally present some credible evidence against me. There is none, as the KC has just told me. Again.

    A complete inability to accept even the most mild constructive criticism without such a malicious reaction is not effective leadership.

    This is our party as much as it is Nigel’s.

    This is is a welcome distraction, a bit of no holds barred party infighing is always fun. Though if one side is vastly stronger than the other I'm not sure how much longer the entertainment will run.
    It's infighting designed to distract people from the fact that Farage is a Russian loving Trump fanatic...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    Leon said:

    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    Reform are Russia-loving retards.

    Hopefully the erstwhile Reform supporters on here are suitably shamefaced.

    lol. I support Reform. Trust me I’m not feeling an iota of shame. Would you honestly expect me to?

    You did criticise Farage's Putin stance during the 2024 GE.
    Yes, that's why I didn't vote for them. His statement on Putin was UGH

    However Farage has been better on Ukraine/Trump since...

    But he is a problem for Reform as much as he is an asset. Indeed the problem is, in part, that he IS such an asset. He overshadows everyone else, and he has political skills none of the others possess. He IS Reform to most voters

    That's fine if you are essentially a one issue pressure group like UKIP: they were remarkably succcessful at achieving their one objective. Brexit. They did it

    But Farage is trying to grow a real political party here, that can credibly compete for the next GE, the trouble is to do this, Reform itself must outgrow Farage
    On the island they’re trying to find candidates for the local elections, now postponed to next year. But only a handful of their aged and eccentric membership want to stand, and many of those want to be promised they won’t win - because they don’t actually want to do the work
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001

    kle4 said:

    Lowe hits back:

    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1898064525007462499

    I am disappointed, but not surprised, to read Reform’s untrue and false allegations. Let me be abundantly clear - this investigation is based on zero credible evidence against me, as has been repeatedly stated by the neutral investigator. None has been provided.

    I have cooperated and spoken at length with the KC they instructed, at great cost to the party, to investigate a minor staff matter.

    I have just spoken to the KC. She is dismayed that this statement has been made, and reiterated that no evidence against me has been sent to her. She stated that this has been issued before the investigation has even started.

    [...]

    I do not believe that Reform members will be pleased to know that their membership fees are being spent on instructing expensive lawyers to investigate their own MPs, over matters that are entirely baseless and have been dealt with in the correct Parliamentary procedure, with HR’s full involvement and support. The staff member in question only raised a vexatious complaint once disciplinary proceedings had been initiated against them for serious wrongdoing. The other individual mentioned, dropped her appeal.

    If they want to kick me out over false claims, they’ll have to finally present some credible evidence against me. There is none, as the KC has just told me. Again.

    A complete inability to accept even the most mild constructive criticism without such a malicious reaction is not effective leadership.

    This is our party as much as it is Nigel’s.

    This is is a welcome distraction, a bit of no holds barred party infighing is always fun. Though if one side is vastly stronger than the other I'm not sure how much longer the entertainment will run.
    I think Farage might have miscalculated this time. He's not used to running a party with this level of support so it will be much harder to manage internal opinion.
    Referral to the police was a pretty big step, especially if nothing comes of it. But if several prominent people split where will they go? And where will the voters go - hundreds of candidates are already lined up for them to vote for, and they make a big play of being unlike any of the others (a bit too much, frankly).
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,707
    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    FPT for @Leon

    Have you been? I’m looking for Uruguay tips - something unusual. I’m doing the normal Montevideo, wine country, punta del este itinerary. It would be good to squeeze in something unusual. A bit of NOOM

    Everything I’ve read indicates Uruguay is rather devoid of Noom. Pleasant and sunny and all that but no noom


    Not been, I’m afraid. Good place for nuclear escape though. That’s sort of noomy by association.

    That’s a bit attenuated

    Maybe I’ll just have to satisfy myself with the basic strangeness of being in “Uruguay”. Which, I guess, is what you’re saying
    Hmmm. Serious answer - have they done anything with the Eagle from the Graf Spee, yet?

    Or is it still in storage somewhere?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,134
    edited March 7
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Lowe hits back:

    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1898064525007462499

    I am disappointed, but not surprised, to read Reform’s untrue and false allegations. Let me be abundantly clear - this investigation is based on zero credible evidence against me, as has been repeatedly stated by the neutral investigator. None has been provided.

    I have cooperated and spoken at length with the KC they instructed, at great cost to the party, to investigate a minor staff matter.

    I have just spoken to the KC. She is dismayed that this statement has been made, and reiterated that no evidence against me has been sent to her. She stated that this has been issued before the investigation has even started.

    [...]

    I do not believe that Reform members will be pleased to know that their membership fees are being spent on instructing expensive lawyers to investigate their own MPs, over matters that are entirely baseless and have been dealt with in the correct Parliamentary procedure, with HR’s full involvement and support. The staff member in question only raised a vexatious complaint once disciplinary proceedings had been initiated against them for serious wrongdoing. The other individual mentioned, dropped her appeal.

    If they want to kick me out over false claims, they’ll have to finally present some credible evidence against me. There is none, as the KC has just told me. Again.

    A complete inability to accept even the most mild constructive criticism without such a malicious reaction is not effective leadership.

    This is our party as much as it is Nigel’s.

    This is is a welcome distraction, a bit of no holds barred party infighing is always fun. Though if one side is vastly stronger than the other I'm not sure how much longer the entertainment will run.
    I think Farage might have miscalculated this time. He's not used to running a party with this level of support so it will be much harder to manage internal opinion.
    Referral to the police was a pretty big step, especially if nothing comes of it. But if several prominent people split where will they go? And where will the voters go - hundreds of candidates are already lined up for them to vote for, and they make a big play of being unlike any of the others (a bit too much, frankly).
    What happens if Lowe refuses to go and its evident that the party's supporters back him over Farage? Even with the dodgy ownership structure, how could Farage maintain control? It's also much harder to marginalise someone who is an elected MP doing an effective job.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,968
    Fortunately, we now know the Trump Administration only works Mon-Fri, so we can have the weekend off from all that. 😮‍💨

    Gives us a chance to look at what else is happening in the political world - like we used to do, before the new reality show from US started dominating. I’ve noticed Labour now looking certain to finish second at the next election and the country is going to be governed by a rather right wing populist Prime Minister, who looks like a Human Testicle. But first there’s going to be a biblical flood.
    Can you see the picture I’m painting yet? It’s Australia! 🐨🦘
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,830
    edited March 7
    The Cardigan Corgi makes the shortlist along with the Lakeland terrier, a huge Mastiff, Sealyham terrier, Irish wolf hound, clumber spaniel, Welsh springer spaniel, and the bearded collie (dulux dog, surprisingly unpopular nowadays due to all the grooming needed).

    The winner is the Irish wolf hound, for the second year running. Second is the clumber spaniel, third the corgi, fourth the Mastiff.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,001

    Fortunately, we now know the Trump Administration only works Mon-Fri, so we can have the weekend off from all that. 😮‍💨

    Gives us a chance to look at what else is happening in the political world - like we used to do, before the new reality show from US started dominating. I’ve noticed Labour now looking certain to finish second at the next election and the country is going to be governed by a rather right wing populist Prime Minister, who looks like a Human Testicle. But first there’s going to be a biblical flood.
    Can you see the picture I’m painting yet? It’s Australia! 🐨🦘

    Their elections are too close together. If Labor lose will a PM get to 4 years in office ever again?
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 257
    Russian spy ring found in Great Yarmouth. And the MP for Great Yarmouth is.....
    Makes you fink, dunnit?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,078
    @atrupar

    REPORTER: How concerned are you that the large-scale federal government layoffs will weaken the labor market?

    TRUMP: The large-scale fentanyl what?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,160
    MattW said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    FPT for @Leon

    Have you been? I’m looking for Uruguay tips - something unusual. I’m doing the normal Montevideo, wine country, punta del este itinerary. It would be good to squeeze in something unusual. A bit of NOOM

    Everything I’ve read indicates Uruguay is rather devoid of Noom. Pleasant and sunny and all that but no noom


    Not been, I’m afraid. Good place for nuclear escape though. That’s sort of noomy by association.

    That’s a bit attenuated

    Maybe I’ll just have to satisfy myself with the basic strangeness of being in “Uruguay”. Which, I guess, is what you’re saying
    Hmmm. Serious answer - have they done anything with the Eagle from the Graf Spee, yet?

    Or is it still in storage somewhere?
    A court case involving the private salvage company that had been involved in the effort to raise the wreck ended in 2019 with a court order for the government to sell the ornament and give some of the proceeds to the salvage company. The decision was later overruled and the government received full custody.[48] On 2 January 2022, a newspaper in Punta del Este reported that an Argentine Jewish businessman, Daniel Sielecki, had offered to buy the eagle and swastika crest from the Admiral Graf Spee from the naval warehouse. Sielecki said he wanted to explode the crest into "a thousand pieces" in order to keep it out of the hands of neo-Nazis.[49][50]

    On 17 June 2023, the New York Times reported that the eagle and crest would be melted down and recast into a dove by Uruguayan artist Pablo Atchugarry.[48] A day later, however, Uruguayan president Luis Lacalle Pou dropped the plan claiming that "there is an overwhelming majority that does not share this decision" and that "if one wants to generate peace, the first thing one has to do is to generate union. Clearly this has not generated it."[51]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Admiral_Graf_Spee
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