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St. James on Kingston upon Thames (Con defence)
Result: Conservative 1,123 (43%), Liberal Democrat 865 (33%), Labour 355 (14%), UKIP 206 (8%), Green 71 (3%)
Conservative HOLD with a majority of 258 (10%)

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  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited December 2014
    First

    Have I missed anything interesting? Positive for the coalition there. Its only by elections though so who knows? Can we consider an increase in a by election for the cons of 2% in a labour controlled seat ....tipping point
    :-)
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited December 2014
    Second

    http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-is-being-followed-around-by-a-man-dressed-as-jesus--ey0iO16uKx

    That is all.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,189
    Evening again all :)

    St James is in Ed Davey's seat but has always been a strong Conservative Ward. Occasionally, a Lib Dem has got elected in the 3-member ward as happened in 2006 but in 2010 the three Conservatives got 42% and the three Liberal Democrats 34% on a day when Ed Davey held the Kingston & Surbiton seat.

    In May this year, the Conservatives got 42% and the Liberal Democrats 26% so yesterday's result was steady for the Conservatives with a small swing to the LDs back to their 2010 numbers. Hard to derive too much from this except to say that K&S is going to be a hard-fought battle between the Coalition parties in the next four and a bit months.

    Another weak result for UKIP in this part of London - 10% in Tudor and now 8% here. Labour down a little from May as well.

  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Pong said:

    Second

    http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-is-being-followed-around-by-a-man-dressed-as-jesus--ey0iO16uKx

    That is all.

    Perhaps the point is that ''Kevin Lee Light is a “professional Jesus impersonator” and arrived in the UK this week from LA, promoting his “Sexy Jesus calendar”. '' and he has chosen to follow Farage for the publicity. I'm guessing its because Winston Mckenzie compared him to Jesus. Those who made excuses for him will have to swallow that Mckenzie has been suspended suspended as chairman of the Lambeth and North Croydon - along with the whole committee and branch.
    But he is still the PCC.
    Screaming Lord Such must be spinning in his grave
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    As time goes on and UKIP remain stubbornly at 500% higher than their 2010 standing in the polls it is starting to remind me of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWIbCtz_Xwk
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    Flightpath said:

    Pong said:

    Second

    http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-is-being-followed-around-by-a-man-dressed-as-jesus--ey0iO16uKx

    That is all.

    Perhaps the point is that ''Kevin Lee Light is a “professional Jesus impersonator” and arrived in the UK this week from LA, promoting his “Sexy Jesus calendar”. '' and he has chosen to follow Farage for the publicity. I'm guessing its because Winston Mckenzie compared him to Jesus. Those who made excuses for him will have to swallow that Mckenzie has been suspended suspended as chairman of the Lambeth and North Croydon - along with the whole committee and branch.
    But he is still the PCC.
    Screaming Lord Such must be spinning in his grave
    Professional Jesus impersonator. Shouldn't his name be Russell not Kevin?
  • glwglw Posts: 10,788
    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Easterross said:

    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.

    The swing in Notts was 3% from Lab to Con from 2013 but 12% from Con to Lab since 2009
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    MarkSenior said:

    Easterross said:

    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.

    The swing in Notts was 3% from Lab to Con from 2013 but 12% from Con to Lab since 2009
    What was the swing since 1832?
    You're just picking an arbitrary start year to make whatever obscure point you're trying to make.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    GeoffM said:

    MarkSenior said:

    Easterross said:

    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.

    The swing in Notts was 3% from Lab to Con from 2013 but 12% from Con to Lab since 2009
    What was the swing since 1832?
    You're just picking an arbitrary start year to make whatever obscure point you're trying to make.
    Don't be your usual prattish self . They are the last 2 times the seat was fought one just before the Conservatives nearly won the 2010 GE
  • glwglw Posts: 10,788
    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Watching the Nigel Farage interview, he certainly came close to defending the use of the racist remark by the former Kipper candidate in Basildon. The use of the word "ch**ky" was common in Scotland and in particular the world of Rab C Nesbit as a description of carry out food from a Chinese restaurant. I haven't heard anyone use the expression for years and certainly never to describe a young lady who happens to have Asian ancestry.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,788
    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
  • Hertsmere_PubgoerHertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    As time goes on and UKIP remain stubbornly at 500% higher than their 2010 standing in the polls it is starting to remind me of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWIbCtz_Xwk

    That was my 19th birthday when that happened. *feeling old*

  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    MarkSenior said:

    GeoffM said:

    MarkSenior said:

    Easterross said:

    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.

    The swing in Notts was 3% from Lab to Con from 2013 but 12% from Con to Lab since 2009
    What was the swing since 1832?
    You're just picking an arbitrary start year to make whatever obscure point you're trying to make.
    Don't be your usual prattish self . They are the last 2 times the seat was fought one just before the Conservatives nearly won the 2010 GE
    That's exciting.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
    Maybe they should have looked before they leaped?

    Kippers do seem to be increasingly following the grand traditions (and rulebook) of the University of Wolloomalloo Philosophy dept:

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=YqiUVNm2BI7eaNDUgbAC&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4&ved=0CC8QtwIwBg&usg=AFQjCNGGssSDUt58-CfS4Amx85_W2gxE6Q
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    That was my 19th birthday when that happened. *feeling old*

    Its still what shall we say... a rather trite analogy. Although its one kipper idol Putin might ponder over.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,628
    Easterross said:

    Watching the Nigel Farage interview, he certainly came close to defending the use of the racist remark by the former Kipper candidate in Basildon. The use of the word "ch**ky" was common in Scotland and in particular the world of Rab C Nesbit as a description of carry out food from a Chinese restaurant. I haven't heard anyone use the expression for years and certainly never to describe a young lady who happens to have Asian ancestry.

    I think Farage might have gone a bit far there. He can't be seen to be defending that sort of language, particularly where any innocuous use may be in doubt.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Aidan Burley, vs. using the expression "chink bird" in a private telephone conversation.

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    Rand Paul Begins to mark out a new foreign policy for the GOP
    @SenRandPaul 'The United States trades and engages with other communist nations, such as China and Vietnam. So @marcorubio why not Cuba?'


  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
    Perhaps they've all gone out for the UKIP Christmas party? An exotic meal somewhere?
  • isamisam Posts: 43,778
    foxinsoxuk said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
    Maybe they should have looked before they leaped?

    Kippers do seem to be increasingly following the grand traditions (and rulebook) of the University of Wolloomalloo Philosophy dept:

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=YqiUVNm2BI7eaNDUgbAC&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4&ved=0CC8QtwIwBg&usg=AFQjCNGGssSDUt58-CfS4Amx85_W2gxE6Q
    You have referred to French people as frogs enough times to keep quiet about stuff like this id have thought
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    St.James, K&S: Compared to the votes on the same day as GE2010, it is a straight 1% swing from LD to the Tories. Not enough to unseat Davey. But the election here will be closer than many Liberals had hitherto assumed. Labour will be up compared to 2010. This will cost LDs. There will be some balance with UKIP taking a few Tory votes. But this is no kipper territory.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
    Perhaps they've all gone out for the UKIP Christmas party? An exotic meal somewhere?
    Val Thorens?

    I am, by the way, a natural tory and will almost certainly vote tory in May. I certainly wouldn't let someone like you influence that decision, but do you in general think that being as dim, odious and repetitive as you are advances the cause of your party?

  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Ishmael_X said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
    Perhaps they've all gone out for the UKIP Christmas party? An exotic meal somewhere?
    Val Thorens?

    I am, by the way, a natural tory and will almost certainly vote tory in May. I certainly wouldn't let someone like you influence that decision, but do you in general think that being as dim, odious and repetitive as you are advances the cause of your party?

    Farage claims it works for him.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Flightpath said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    TheWatcher said:

    glw said:

    Paul_Mid_Beds said:

    Underlying all the conservative attacks on UKIP here and elsewhere is an indignancy and outrage that their voters should dare to vote for an alternative centre right party.

    Bollocks. The reason UKIP keep getting attacked is because of all the stupid, racist, and sexist things they keep saying.
    Kippers would describe it as 'banter'.
    Have we heard from Carswell and Reckless yet? Or are they still incommunicado? I would like to hear their defence of said language.
    They do look a bit spineless, don't they. Perhaps they're feeling ashamed?
    To be fair it can't be much fun to have to repeatedly duck questions about the latest stupid thing your new colleagues have said.
    Perhaps they've all gone out for the UKIP Christmas party? An exotic meal somewhere?
    Val Thorens?

    I am, by the way, a natural tory and will almost certainly vote tory in May. I certainly wouldn't let someone like you influence that decision, but do you in general think that being as dim, odious and repetitive as you are advances the cause of your party?

    Farage claims it works for him.
    Indeed. Not much has changed since his days at Dulwich by all accounts.
  • scotslassscotslass Posts: 912
    Has Survation provided any explanation as to why the poll they tweeted
    as being out this past week will now (as I understand it) be released on Monday?
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,072
    edited December 2014
    Alf Garnett was a Tory of course but what would he be now?

    These things worry me.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,697
    Welcome @scotslass. It might simple be that its taken longer to do the required fieldwork for the poll due to the Festive season. The monthly ICM poll was published a wee bit later this month, and @Screaming Eagles noted that the fieldwork had been carried out over a longer than normal period too.
    scotslass said:

    Has Survation provided any explanation as to why the poll they tweeted
    as being out this past week will now (as I understand it) be released on Monday?

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2014
    "Birmingham has been named as one of the top 10 cities in the world by travel handbook company Rough Guide.

    It joins Johannesburg, New Orleans and Wellington on the list, described by the firm as "a comprehensive and reliable rundown of the best places to travel in 2015".

    Birmingham was described as having cultural variety, excellent shopping and a buzzing live music scene.

    It is the only UK location on the list, which does not rank the chosen cities."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-30458480
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    Mandy Rice-Davies, Deceased

    I've been reading in The Daily Telegraph about her friendship with Margaret Thatcher and this generous tribute from Andrew Lloyd-Webber:

    "I am deeply sad to hear the news regarding Mandy. I would have written the musical Stephen Ward five times over just to have met this life enhancing woman.
    "Mandy was enormously well-read and intelligent. I will always remember discussing with her over dinner subjects as varied as Thomas Cromwell's dissolution of the monasteries and the influence of the artist Stanley Spencer on Lucian Freud.
    "With a different throw of the dice, Mandy might have been head of the Royal Academy or even running the country. She became a dear friend and I will miss her."
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited December 2014
    AndyJS said:

    "Birmingham has been named as one of the top 10 cities in the world by travel handbook company Rough Guide.

    It joins Johannesburg, New Orleans and Wellington on the list, described by the firm as "a comprehensive and reliable rundown of the best places to travel in 2015".

    Birmingham was described as having cultural variety, excellent shopping and a buzzing live music scene.

    It is the only UK location on the list, which does not rank the chosen cities."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-30458480

    From the BBC: 'The Library of Birmingham, which cost £189m to build and houses a collection of one million books'

    Pah! Liverpool has FOUR million, including Gutenbergs, Caxtons and a copy of Audabon's Birds of America alone worth £8m...

    And of course, the entire public library system has its origins in Liverpool.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Birmingham has been named as one of the top 10 cities in the world by travel handbook company Rough Guide.

    It joins Johannesburg, New Orleans and Wellington on the list, described by the firm as "a comprehensive and reliable rundown of the best places to travel in 2015".

    Birmingham was described as having cultural variety, excellent shopping and a buzzing live music scene.

    It is the only UK location on the list, which does not rank the chosen cities."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-30458480

    From the BBC: 'The Library of Birmingham, which cost £189m to build and houses a collection of one million books'

    Pah! Liverpool has FOUR million, including Gutenbergs, Caxtons and a copy of Audabon's Birds of America alone worth £8m...

    And of course, the entire public library system has its origins in Liverpool.
    Interesting that all the great things you say about Liverpool relate to its past. What happened, and how can you fix it?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Birmingham has been named as one of the top 10 cities in the world by travel handbook company Rough Guide.

    It joins Johannesburg, New Orleans and Wellington on the list, described by the firm as "a comprehensive and reliable rundown of the best places to travel in 2015".

    Birmingham was described as having cultural variety, excellent shopping and a buzzing live music scene.

    It is the only UK location on the list, which does not rank the chosen cities."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-30458480

    From the BBC: 'The Library of Birmingham, which cost £189m to build and houses a collection of one million books'

    Pah! Liverpool has FOUR million, including Gutenbergs, Caxtons and a copy of Audabon's Birds of America alone worth £8m...

    And of course, the entire public library system has its origins in Liverpool.
    Interesting that all the great things you say about Liverpool relate to its past. What happened, and how can you fix it?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,938
    edited December 2014
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11304858/Pensioners-living-in-France-miss-out-on-payment-after-officials-manipulate-calculations.html

    Bwhaha.. I wonder if they did this in purpose. To be fair, they are integral parts of French territory, with representation in the French parliament.

    I suffer from a similar calculation; overseas student loan repayments are based on the average cost of living in a particular country, and I just happen to live in one of the most expensive cities in the US. Argh.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,366
    edited December 2014
    Mark

    "The swing in Notts was 3% from Lab to Con from 2013 but 12% from Con to Lab since 2009"

    Easterross said:

    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.



    Are you trying to make the sage of Scottish politics Easterross look ridiculous?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,938
    and wow, four hours without a comment. Looks live everyone is out at the xmas party!
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 26,185
    Roger said:

    Mark

    "The swing in Notts was 3% from Lab to Con from 2013 but 12% from Con to Lab since 2009"



    Easterross said:

    Evening all and don't the real elections make some pollsters look foolish? Last week we saw 4 or 5 Lab to Con swings in council by-elections and last night we saw a 3% Lab to Con swing in Nottinghamshire where marginal seats are in the offing.

    Just saw on Twitter that there were 279 council by-elections this year and this was the overall result:
    Britain Elects @britainelects
    Council by-election tally 2014:
    CON: 95 (-10)
    LAB: 93 (-)
    LDEM: 28 (+6)
    UKIP: 17 (+10)
    GRN: 7 (+3)
    SNP: 6 (-)
    PC: 2 (+1)
    OTH: 23 (-10)

    The Tories retained 78-77 and gained 17-16 more wards over the year than Labour though we did lose 11 more wards but not to the overall benefit of Labour. This is hardly the sign of an opposition poised to take the country in May.



    Are you trying to make the sage of Scottish politics Easterross look ridiculous?
    Shouldn;t you be hinting at the Oscars about now ?

    Can;t make up my mind whether The Inbetweeners 2 or Paddington will get best film.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited December 2014
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