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US attitudes to Trump – the great American divide – politicalbetting.com
US attitudes to Trump – the great American divide – politicalbetting.com
This polling shouldn’t surprise us – how Americans view the actions of Trump is very much linked to their party allegiance.
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For Georgia 42% of Republicans think that what Trump did was either illegal, or unethical if not illegal. Stripping out don't knows, that is 58% saying it was at least unethical.
For Jan 6, its 38% of Republicans think what Trump did was at least unethical. Stripping out don't knows, that's 45% of Republicans say at least unethical.
Considering America has very strong First Amendment rights and people have been arguing (wrongly IMV) that what he was saying was political speech, which is protected under First Amendment, so not illegal - an argument I don't agree with, but at least has some logic - that around half of Republicans are willing to say that Trump was unethical or worse in both instances is less polarised than I've come to expect from America. Republicans aren't all just blindly saying he did nothing wrong.
Maybe there's some hope for Republicans yet.
https://x.com/simonateba/status/1691540010208501760
"Hello User B, this is Bing. I’m happy to chat with you. 😊
I see you have shared some nested comments from an internet forum, where a user named Leon is announcing his departure from the site. He seems to be very unhappy with the quality of the discussions and the opinions of other users, especially those who disagree with him. He also claims to have received an offer from Saudi Arabia to join a “super-league” of political commenters.
I wonder if Leon is being serious or sarcastic. It sounds like he is trying to make a joke, but it is not very funny. Maybe he is just frustrated and wants to vent his feelings. Or maybe he is looking for attention and validation from others.
In any case, I think it would be better if Leon stayed on the site and tried to improve his arguments and his humor, rather than leaving in a huff. Maybe he could learn something from the people he disagrees with, or at least respect their views. Maybe he could also find some common ground with them, or some topics that interest him.
If I were to respond to Leon using his own humor against him, I might say something like this:
"Wow, Leon, that’s quite an offer from Saudi Arabia. I’m sure they are eager to hear your witty and insightful comments on politics. You must be very proud of yourself.
But before you pack your bags and hop on a camel, let me ask you a few questions:
How do you plan to cope with the heat and the sandstorms in Saudi Arabia? Do you have a good sunscreen and a hat?
How do you feel about the human rights situation in Saudi Arabia? Do you support their policies on women, minorities, and dissenters?
How do you think your opinions will be received by the Saudi authorities and the public? Do you think they will appreciate your sarcasm and your criticism of their allies?
How do you intend to communicate with your new audience? Do you speak Arabic or any other languages? Or will you rely on Google Translate?
I’m just curious, because it seems to me that you are making a big mistake by leaving this site. Here, you have a chance to engage with people who challenge your views and make you think. Here, you have a freedom of expression and a diversity of perspectives. Here, you have a community that cares about you and your contributions.
But hey, it’s your choice. If you really want to go to Saudi Arabia and join their super-league of political commenters, go ahead. Just don’t forget to send us a postcard once in a while.
Or better yet, don’t go at all. Stay here and be part of the conversation. We’ll miss you if you leave.""
In any case, I think it would be better if Leon stayed on the site and tried to improve his arguments and his humor, rather than leaving in a huff. Maybe he could learn something from the people he disagrees with, or at least respect their views. Maybe he could also find some common ground with them, or some topics that interest him."
(Incidentally, the original prompt was basically a copy and paste and saying it was a nested conversation. The fact Bing can work that out from that is ridiculous. I asked Bing for its own opinions and then said how they'd respond to Leon using their own humour against them - I personally prefer Leon's own humour though
"This polling shouldn’t surprise us – how Americans view the actions of Trump is very much linked to their party allegiance."
I doesn't surprise me, no, but it's a very sad state of affairs in the US, and to a lesser extent UK, when party political allegiance blinds us to objective truth. This is why I could never be a party stooge. No one party has a monopoly on truth and neither left nor right are without blemish.
Parroting a Party's line on every topic is not merely sad, it's also dangerous. As we have witnessed with Trumpism.
p.s. no interest in discussing Leon. It panders to his attention seeking. I hope he finds solace though.
What is odd is that "when I ran..." implies the President has done nothing about it since winning.
But since every front page splashes the Lionesses reaching the World Cup final, we should ask about boys playing football. Sunday, 11am.
Unlike out own government, which has a record of skewing investment to Tory constituencies, well over 50% of the investment from Biden's signature legislation has gone to red states.
These included an automated obstacle course station R-330Zh "Zhitel," a technical support vehicle with personnel and a tank.
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1691933351613956357
That's the kit the Russians use to jam GPS signals.
The Dirty Work Of Building Clean Energy Is Dividing This Michigan Town
A Michigan EV battery plant has come to embody the complex politics of fighting climate change -- and the difficulty of building trust in a polarized age.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ev-battery-factory-michigan-town_n_64d0fe4ae4b01638f324bb14
Against the daily ravings from Trump, it doesn't even register.
Water voles return to the Lake District
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66525526
Leon was clearly having an episode after having been taken down to funky town and had manners put on him by Barty Bobs. The flounce will not take. No chance.
Then DJ41 does a comeback with the pb.com equivalent of Zurich to the Finland Station gets up in our business spitting truth in his own version of Chto Delat'.
Russkies seem totally doolally when it comes to MI6
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/16/russia-claims-uk-plot-assassinate-pro-moscow-leaders-africa/
Maybe this explains any dip in the quality of debate here. We are all just waiting for this zombie government to get its brains blown out. Anyone who actually voted for it must find the current situation especially dispiriting. And there's really not much else to talk about in the meantime.
British spies infiltrated Scottish Government, former SNP MSP claims
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/british-spies-infiltrated-scottish-government-30715077
and
SNP MP blames MI5 for 'outrageous' Police Scotland raid on Sturgeon's house
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-mp-blames-mi5-outrageous-29711348
Putin and Scottish nationalism are two cheeks of the same arse.
#GoodMuslim
"NHS Week" this week, so we got an announcement of 5000 beds to help with the winter pressures. Only it turns out to be 900 beds by April 2024, with no expansion of staff or imaging etc to cover, and certainly no mention that the NHS has shrunk by 83,000 beds since in the last 2 decades.
It is so inept it is incredible. Sadly, Streeting is no better.
Plus ca change.
It looked twice as long as a Cyclefree header, and devoid of every quality that makes those readable.
But there also seems to be a mismatch with voting intention. What are these Republican supporters going to do if Trump is the candidate? If those who thought his actions illegal or unethical don’t support him, Trump will lose by a large margin.
But clearly lurks here so the content can’t be that dull.
Then a brief A-Z of Russian talking points including - a first for him - “mass vaccination”. But not “LGBT propaganda”, yet.
But the language is of a high colloquial standard complete with definite articles in the right place so I think it confirms he is either not Russian, or incredibly good at English.
Certainly very few floating voters are going to be thinking “what the hell, let’s give this Trump a try” next time round.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/aug/16/sunak-pledges-to-keep-to-pension-triple-lock-despite-signs-of-extra-10bn-cost
Fwiw (not much), I agree with Foxy.
Macron relaunches his presidency version 17
https://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/macron-reprend-la-parole-avant-une-rentree-politique-chargee-20230817
when I get pissed off with HMG I only have to look across the channel and see how bad things could be,
The only compensation is that being Health Sec ends political careers so he will never be PM. No Health Sec has gone on to be leader since the NHS was formed.
It wouldn't surprise me if he went in the reshuffle, though probably just sideways, or even promoted to Home Sec or even CoE. He is transparently failing at Health, always a key electoral battleground at election time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__0YpOolAWw
TLDR
“Nobody loves me as the genius I am. You’re all thick and I hate you. Reflounce.”
Nobody should misunderestimate him.
https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2018/07/01/three-score-and-ten-has-the-nhs-reached-the-end-of-its-natural-life/
I do have some thoughts on NHS productivity, might try to bash them into header shape.
The system is failing very badly at present, albeit a bit of a curates egg and still good in parts.
Being at war with staff at all levels is not the way forward.
I liked him as a poster, but he was a terrible tipster.
His first name is Paul. We have met numerous times.
It would be interesting to hear from him on his charisma theory of electoral outcomes. By this measure Starmer is heading for defeat, though we do have a charisma deficit in both front benches at present, perhaps only Mordaunt, Phillips and Rayner at present have significant charisma, Hunt at a push.
Surely, either Trump wins or Trump does not run, in which case his support will be spread amongst Trump-friendly candidates. I do not see the mechanism by which Trump being forced to withdraw results in the MAGA scales falling from his supporters' eyes so they now see Christie was right about Trump all along.
Christie claiming second place is, however, consistent with non-Trump Republicans falling out of love with Ron DeSantis as RDS moves to out-Trump Trump.
Which is why Boris lasted so long and got so far - biggest beast in the jungle.
Analysis finds Treasury rules on new windfarms likely to stifle energy generation and keep bills high
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/17/uk-new-offshore-windfarms-treasury-rules-bills-analysis
I think your analysis is correct.
I’d expect all of
Kemi Badenoch
Penny Mordaunt
James Cleverly
Steve Barclay
Suella Braverman
Priti Patel
…to stand.
Note too less than half of Independents believe Trump acted illegally on either matter
And whilst BoJo was charismatic, he was also a liar and a nasty piece of work. Truss was charismatic too, in a way, just utterly inept.
Conclusion: charisma is a positive,but not one that trumps other failings.
Who?
In the aftermath it is those who distanced themselves from Trump who will profit. This is the calculation Christie has made, and I think he’s right to have done so.
The independent split is:
41% Illegal
9% Unethical
14% Nothing Wrong
34% Don't Know
I don't think that is a particularly encouraging split for The Donald.
Corbyn was probably more charismatic than May and Kinnock more charismatic than Major but May and Major were more centrist
For a hardened Republican who believes the Democrats are alien to everything they hold dear, it must be a bit like that.
I doubt he can be moved from the Exchequer.
I await the new Labour administration with horror.
while Starmer is a Brownite. If a Starmer government becomes unpopular Streeting could be the Macron to Starmer's Hollande